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[waldstr18]

Macross wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

where is the hate? show me, please.

Well, you and Arian aren't exactily married are you? But no, you're right hate was the wrong word. Rather you're and some others in this threads arguement for the sake of argueing is getting old.

The simple fact that you are asking me to prove non-Indoc releated stuff in this thread is proof of that.

There is an old saying in my family. If you have nothing to add to the silence, then don't add anything.

If you aren't going to discuss indoc with us and just antognise everyone, then there is little point to you being in this thread. There are other threads you can do it in.

i didnt want to argue. i asked, i got my answer, and then the antitrolls appeared again, even though i asked them not to.

[Auralius Carolus]

Simon_Says wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...
Sorry. Definately does not sound even similar to my ears.

But the dream noises definately do suggest indoc.

The pure clip is at full magnification. When you run the tracks together are rhythmatic and pitch parallels.

The audio spikes aren't as profound, but they're still synchronized.

Yeah. Now I can see what you're talking about, but I'm still sceptical. If ever there was a place where Bioware could simply reuse assets, it's when Shepard gets knocked by an explosion and loses hearing for a moment.

I say it's a very short straw, but since we're hoarding them wholesale anyway...

Yes, very much a short straw, but that's the nature of the Indoc Theory as a whole: we're basically saying that all the crap- the forced emotional plot device of the kid, the dreams, the really bad endings, aren't what they appear. There is enough ambiguity there to see a diamond in the rough.

And, when you consider it, the entire indoc theory is tied together by the notion that Shepard is progressively losing control and that this, most distinctly, manifests during unconcious states.

Here, he flirts with unconciousness and the ambiance bleeds through. He then has dream that progressively get worse and worse, eventually apexing at the endings in fully formed hallucinations.

Modifié par Auralius Carolus, 24 avril 2012 - 02:51 .

[Simon_Says]

waldstr18 wrote...
i didnt want to argue. i asked, i got my answer, and then the antitrolls appeared again, even though i asked them not to.

Anti-trolls gonna anti-troll.

[byne]

Yay! Page 1700!

[lex0r11]

waldstr18 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

I'm sorry Simon, but i will not stop asking him questions because it might be the courteous thing to do.

And
as i said Waldstr, you have build your reputation here and you play at
it even in that one sentence you started with. Trollhunters? That's
okay. Following it with a rethorical question you asked before? Yeah.
You STILL believe in it? Hur. You really need to check up on people in
here if they all packed up and left so you can plant four flag in here
or something?

I'm sorry if i see more than others in these words
but i've been known to read people really well. Especially when i get to
hear/read more of them.

no flag planting. i actually
want you to believe. who am i going to tell "in your face" if none of
you are left in summer? and the reason why i ask: it could be that the
whole thing has been disproven, you dont accept that, and go on making
the indoctrination theory fan fiction or something like that.

as
for your reading skills. im not impressed. i know my intentions pretty
well and usually they are "get information, get out". especially in
here. i hate forum thread communication. im more of a real time chatter.
is there an indoctrination irc channel by the way?

So you finally admitted to not care about discussing about the topic, WHICH this thread is for, and are just popping in from time to time to find the right opportunity to be condescending to people?

You shouldn't be here and to say anything else is a lie.
Your reputation keeps on building up.

Modifié par lex0r11, 24 avril 2012 - 02:51 .

[DreamTension]

The journey being so good/incredible is the only reason we are still talking about this game/series.

[TelexFerra]

i believe indoc

[Big G13]

lex0r11 wrote...

I'm sorry Simon, but i will not stop asking him questions because it might be the courteous thing to do.

And as i said Waldstr, you have build your reputation here and you play at it even in that one sentence you started with. Trollhunters? That's okay. Following it with a rethorical question you asked before? Yeah. You STILL believe in it? Hur. You really need to check up on people in here if they all packed up and left so you can plant four flag in here or something?

I'm sorry if i see more than others in these words but i've been known to read people really well. Especially when i get to hear/read more of them.

So, now you're taking on trolls without Liara. I am so proud.
P.S. I got here just in time for 1700. Yahoooo.

[balance5050]

TelexFerra wrote...

i believe indoc

[Shootokill]

First off, long time lurker (since the first 100 pages).

Like several that have come before me, I heard that the endings might not be up to speed with the rest of the game. I didn't want to spoil it so I ignored it until I beat it for myself. Not wanting to play multiplayer, I stuck to single player and ended up with the worst possible destroy ending where pretty much everyone was decimated. Knowing this wasn't good, and knowing that I would play through it again properly, I began scouring the Internet to figure what was going on. I found this thread.

After reading the first post from Byne, I was sold on the Indoctrination theory and I thought it worked with what was given to us. I then proceeded to buy ME1 as I started off at ME2. I wanted to get the full experience and see, for myself, all of the clues that everyone had been diligently pointing out. Just having finished a playthrough of all three games, I was convinced that Indoctrination is the way to go.

The only thing that bothers me, other than the endings of course, is if Bioware intended to release a real ending at a later time. I don't think any game should be subject to that. The game you buy should contain all the core elements to complete the story. I don't mind having DLC to complement the story but the main storyline should be included with your original purchase.

Regardless of what the outcome is, I enjoyed all three games, minus the last 10 minutes although I don't think that hinders it enough to make me not like them. With all that said, I just want to say that I'll be getting involved in the discussion so I look forward to posting with you guys.

[waldstr18]

@lex0r11
you are like one of the wich hunters in the dark ages. they were sure of their "reading skills" as well. now if i may ask you politely not to burn me at the stake. thatd be nice.

[Simon_Says]

byne wrote...

Yay! Page 1700!

I wonder if we should start a betting pool on how far this thread will go before EC is released.

[balance5050]

waldstr18 wrote...

@lex0r11
you are like one of the wich hunters in the dark ages. they were sure of their "reading skills" as well. now if i may ask you politely not to burn me at the stake. thatd be nice.

Please keep the discussion relevant, we don't want to talk about how you feel victimized.

[Golferguy758]

Oh haayy guise what's goin on heer?

[Lokanaiya]

Looks like this got lost a while back in the pile of angry posts. Seems especialy relevant now.

Lokanaiya wrote...

We really should make a FAQ with short answers to questions and common "arguments" against the IT and IT evidence. Nothing really long, trolls probablt won't go through all the trouble to read long posts, just like 1 or 2 lines for each answer. If someone comes in and asks a common question or points out something like the Thessia Prothean VI we can just point them to the FAQ and not reply to any other posts they make where they ask a question that has been answered already in the FAQ.

[lex0r11]

waldstr18 wrote...

@lex0r11
you are like one of the wich hunters in the dark ages. they were sure of their "reading skills" as well. now if i may ask you politely not to burn me at the stake. thatd be nice.

You are again ignoring one of my statements.

You said it yourself. Your intention here is not discussing. Your intention here is to find the right time to laugh at people. This thread is for discussing and proving or disproving a theory.

Explain or leave it be.

[Golferguy758]

Simon_Says wrote...

byne wrote...

Yay! Page 1700!

I wonder if we should start a betting pool on how far this thread will go before EC is released.

I say 2500, Give or take several dozen depending on flame wars and such.

[waldstr18]

i never said anything about right time or laughing at people. you are reading into things again. im gonna laugh at people, once its proven im right, until then, whats there to laugh about?

edit: oh, sorry. i totally misunderstood. well, in that case, yes you are right, but im not looking for the right time, cause the right time is once bioware releases the dlc, im just checking if you are still believing.

Modifié par waldstr18, 24 avril 2012 - 02:59 .

[Golferguy758]

Lokanaiya wrote...

Looks like this got lost a while back in the pile of angry posts. Seems especialy relevant now.

Lokanaiya wrote...

We really should make a FAQ with short answers to questions and common "arguments" against the IT and IT evidence. Nothing really long, trolls probablt won't go through all the trouble to read long posts, just like 1 or 2 lines for each answer. If someone comes in and asks a common question or points out something like the Thessia Prothean VI we can just point them to the FAQ and not reply to any other posts they make where they ask a question that has been answered already in the FAQ.

95% of the people who come in with their "profound proof of IT being fake" wouldn't read a message explaining a counter-argument to their infallible logic, that most assuredly could never have cropped up in the previous thousand pages, if it was left taped to their monitors

[DreamTension]

Lokanaiya wrote...

Looks like this got lost a while back in the pile of angry posts. Seems especialy relevant now.

Lokanaiya wrote...

We really should make a FAQ with short answers to questions and common "arguments" against the IT and IT evidence. Nothing really long, trolls probablt won't go through all the trouble to read long posts, just like 1 or 2 lines for each answer. If someone comes in and asks a common question or points out something like the Thessia Prothean VI we can just point them to the FAQ and not reply to any other posts they make where they ask a question that has been answered already in the FAQ.

Good idea...any takers?

[Ravereth]

I have one more question... how is this scene with child and his grandpa(?) possible, if someone had low EMS and every organic and synthetic life got destroyed and of course if IT is false?

[Golferguy758]

waldstr18 wrote...

i never said anything about right time or laughing at people. you are reading into things again. im gonna laugh at people, once its proven im right, until then, whats there to laugh about?

You really don't see the issue in this, do you?

You really don't understand why statements like this are antagonizing at the least and considered flamebait on the higher end of the spectrum?

[Auralius Carolus]

balance5050 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

@lex0r11
you are like one of the wich hunters in the dark ages. they were sure of their "reading skills" as well. now if i may ask you politely not to burn me at the stake. thatd be nice.

Please keep the discussion relevant, we don't want to talk about how you feel victimized.

Plus, burning at the stake wasn't readily established during the Dark Ages. Most of Europe was simply trying to scrape by and survive the numerous regional warlords that rose up after the fall of Rome.

[Simon_Says]

Ravereth wrote...

I have one more question... how is this scene with child and his grandpa(?) possible, if someone had low EMS and every organic and synthetic life got destroyed and of course if IT is false?

[Big Bad]

If I could find a way to mentally compartmentalize the ending of ME3 so that it wouldn't always be in the back of my mind, the ending wouldn't be quite such a bummer. But I, personally, am unable to do that. The ending just sits there in the shadows, waiting until it gets a chance to depress me all over again. Basically, the ending taints everything that came before it in my eyes. I don't know if it's fair, but I also don't know to react to the series in a different way.