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[Lokanaiya]

waldstr18 wrote...

i never said anything about right time or laughing at people. you are reading into things again. im gonna laugh at people, once its proven im right, until then, whats there to laugh about?

edit: oh, sorry. i totally misunderstood. well, in that case, yes you are right, but im not looking for the right time, cause the right time is once bioware releases the dlc, im just checking if you are still believing.

Well, guess what, we still are. And now until IT is proven right or wrong, there is no reason for you to be here, so perhaps you should just leave and let us get back to real, intelligent conversation.

[lex0r11]

waldstr18 wrote...

i never said anything about right time or laughing at people. you are reading into things again. im gonna laugh at people, once its proven im right, until then, whats there to laugh about?

waldstr18 wrote...

i actually want you to believe. who am i going to tell "in your face" if none of
you are left in summer?

You don't bring anything relevant to the disscusion.
Thread is for discussing the theory. You don't belong here with your intentions until you come up with a counterarguement backed with ingame or outgame evidence like everyone else in here does. And you made your intentions clear enough. Pages ago and just now.

Modifié par lex0r11, 24 avril 2012 - 03:05 .

[Simon_Says]

QUICK! USS ENTERPRISE JOKES!

[waldstr18]

Golferguy758 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i never said anything about right time or laughing at people. you are reading into things again. im gonna laugh at people, once its proven im right, until then, whats there to laugh about?

You really don't see the issue in this, do you?

You really don't understand why statements like this are antagonizing at the least and considered flamebait on the higher end of the spectrum?

actually i dont, cause it works the other way, too. what if im wrong? the only difference is that i dont call you stupid, troll or not a real fan in here until its actually proven, unlike a few guys in here. who are so sure that the idt is true, that everyone else is a moron for not seing the 50 clues in the game.

[Lokanaiya]

Simon_Says wrote...

QUICK! USS ENTERPRISE JOKES!

Make it so.

[Uncle Jo]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...



Though it DID just occur to me, that when I do a re-write, well.. they DID imply that the people inside the Citadel are still alive and fighting... time for Armando Bailey to step up.

Do they know anyhing about the activation panel ? An infiltration mission in the Citadel could have been cool IMO

Well, the ACTUAL activation panel, you know the one that actually exists that we have seen in a previous game happens to be in the council chambers. So yeah, getting to it would be hell.

I already thought about an alternative final mission (though it's out of topic and no longer an option anymore) where the player could either lead the assault on earth to the beam while some of his squadmates infiltrated the Citadel, trying to reactivate the beam (which should have been temporarly shut down by the Reapers).
Or he choose the infiltration. Depending on his choices, he either succeed or not.  (I know looks like the suicide mission of ME2)
And when both sides meet at some point of the Citadel, one squad with reinforcement hold the Reapers forces while the other tries to reach the panel to open the arms of Citadel. Just after reaching the Council Room Shep could be separated from his squadmates (trap, remaining Reaper Forces). Alone in the room and eventually
wounded, begins the last mental fight against Indoctrination (Harbinger/Starbrat)...

That was my idea, it's not, by far, so well written like your cut-scenes and the last indoctrination attempt is definitely more obvious...

[Lokanaiya]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Looks like this got lost a while back in the pile of angry posts. Seems especialy relevant now.

Lokanaiya wrote...

We really should make a FAQ with short answers to questions and common "arguments" against the IT and IT evidence. Nothing really long, trolls probablt won't go through all the trouble to read long posts, just like 1 or 2 lines for each answer. If someone comes in and asks a common question or points out something like the Thessia Prothean VI we can just point them to the FAQ and not reply to any other posts they make where they ask a question that has been answered already in the FAQ.

95% of the people who come in with their "profound proof of IT being fake" wouldn't read a message explaining a counter-argument to their infallible logic, that most assuredly could never have cropped up in the previous thousand pages, if it was left taped to their monitors

You're probably right, but it does give us something to point the trolls to instead of feeding them.

[waldstr18]

lex0r11 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i never said anything about right time or laughing at people. you are reading into things again. im gonna laugh at people, once its proven im right, until then, whats there to laugh about?

waldstr18 wrote...

i actually want you to believe. who am i going to tell "in your face" if none of
you are left in summer?

You don't bring anything relevant to the disscusion.
Thread is for discussing the theory. You don't belong here with your intentions until you come up with a counterarguement backed with ingame or outgame evidence like everyone else in here does. And you made your intentions clear enough. Pages ago and just now.

i did that a few times. come up with counter arguements.

like its pretentious of you to say that bioware gave us an unfinished game.

[lex0r11]

waldstr18 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i never said anything about right time or laughing at people. you are reading into things again. im gonna laugh at people, once its proven im right, until then, whats there to laugh about?

You really don't see the issue in this, do you?

You really don't understand why statements like this are antagonizing at the least and considered flamebait on the higher end of the spectrum?

actually i dont, cause it works the other way, too. what if im wrong? the only difference is that i dont call you stupid, troll or not a real fan in here until its actually proven, unlike a few guys in here. who are so sure that the idt is true, that everyone else is a moron for not seing the 50 clues in the game.

Theory, it's not a fact. I don't care of others call it a fact. I am a realist to know that it is still a theory. If some people made that statement to you, there is no reason to refelct in on everyone else.

waldstr18 wrote...

i did that a few times. come up with counter arguements.

like its pretentious of you to say that bioware gave us an unfinished game.

Where is the evidence for that? Or a clue?
What you have there is an opinion.

Modifié par lex0r11, 24 avril 2012 - 03:09 .

[Legion109]

balance5050 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

@ Gormane I am annoyed at him (breaking my previous pacifism btw) because he IS one of the regulars who comes in, ****es at us and leaves. THAT is why I responded. I'm sick of him.

It's like if some guy just walked in and was like "I know everyone accuses me of being racist, but Asians suck at driving!"

They do, they really do my wife scares the sh*t out of me when she's driving.

[balance5050]

 @waldstr18 - 
Just repeating this so you understand.
"If some people made that statement to you, there is no reason to reflect it on everyone else."

Modifié par balance5050, 24 avril 2012 - 03:12 .

[Auralius Carolus]

Legion109 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

@ Gormane I am annoyed at him (breaking my previous pacifism btw) because he IS one of the regulars who comes in, ****es at us and leaves. THAT is why I responded. I'm sick of him.

It's like if some guy just walked in and was like "I know everyone accuses me of being racist, but Asians suck at driving!"

They do, they really do my wife scares the sh*t out of me when she's driving.

Stereotypes make the world go 'round. I refuse to live in some sort of tyrannical "paradise" where you can't express yourself because "someone" is going to get offended. Take it in stride, give it back and laugh it off.

[Arian Dynas]

lex0r11 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

@lex0r11
you are like one of the wich hunters in the dark ages. they were sure of their "reading skills" as well. now if i may ask you politely not to burn me at the stake. thatd be nice.

You are again ignoring one of my statements.

You said it yourself. Your intention here is not discussing. Your intention here is to find the right time to laugh at people. This thread is for discussing and proving or disproving a theory.

Explain or leave it be.

YESSSS LEXOR! LET YOUR HATRED FLOW THROUGH YOU!

[byne]

waldstr18 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i never said anything about right time or laughing at people. you are reading into things again. im gonna laugh at people, once its proven im right, until then, whats there to laugh about?

You really don't see the issue in this, do you?

You really don't understand why statements like this are antagonizing at the least and considered flamebait on the higher end of the spectrum?

actually i dont, cause it works the other way, too. what if im wrong? the only difference is that i dont call you stupid, troll or not a real fan in here until its actually proven, unlike a few guys in here. who are so sure that the idt is true, that everyone else is a moron for not seing the 50 clues in the game.

No one calls Epyon a troll or a moron or anything, and he doesnt believe in IT last I checked. Could have to do with the different ways the two of you act.

[UrgedDuke]

I had some questions about the ending that I wanted to hear your guys' thoughts on:

It is very odd first off that Shepard passed out for the second time after riding the beam up, and also equally odd that his pistol found its way to 10 feet in front of him. However I was wondering if you guys felt that Anderson's words from then are messed up. First he says "I followed you up but we didn't come out the same place AT LEAST I DON'T THINK WE DID". wouldn't it be obvious if him and Sheppy came out at the same spot? Also Anderson speaks as if he is seein through your eyes and he describes everything you see. He also says " where the hell are WE?" even though Shepard and Andy don't seem to be together Andy uses the word "WE" as if they were.

There is one thing else to consider guys. Anderson describes a Chasm while making his way to the console. The word chasm can mean, like we think it does, a rift but it can also mean a difference in viewpoints or people. I think this could symbolize the difference of opinions in Shep's mind personified by Anderson and TIM.

Modifié par UrgedDuke, 24 avril 2012 - 03:16 .

[waldstr18]

i havent reflected on everyone else. thats you reading into thing again.

but i admit im gonna reflect on everyone if the idt is disproven. im sorry for that, but the "in your face" part only works by ridiculing the theory.

which doesnt mean i dont respect the guys who actually came up with it. cause i could never have done that. all that paying attention to detail. quite amazing. yet i think looking at mass effect as game, which is intended to sell for actual money, its pretty naive to still stick to to the idt. but i could be wrong, of course, who knows...

[waldstr18]

lex0r11 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i never said anything about right time or laughing at people. you are reading into things again. im gonna laugh at people, once its proven im right, until then, whats there to laugh about?

You really don't see the issue in this, do you?

You really don't understand why statements like this are antagonizing at the least and considered flamebait on the higher end of the spectrum?

actually i dont, cause it works the other way, too. what if im wrong? the only difference is that i dont call you stupid, troll or not a real fan in here until its actually proven, unlike a few guys in here. who are so sure that the idt is true, that everyone else is a moron for not seing the 50 clues in the game.

Theory, it's not a fact. I don't care of others call it a fact. I am a realist to know that it is still a theory. If some people made that statement to you, there is no reason to refelct in on everyone else.

waldstr18 wrote...

i did that a few times. come up with counter arguements.

like its pretentious of you to say that bioware gave us an unfinished game.

Where is the evidence for that? Or a clue?
What you have there is an opinion.

i think its common sense. imagine you writing a book, being proud of it, releasing it and then your readers say: we know the ending is so crappy it must be a dream, you are going to give us the real ending later, right?

how would you feel?

[lex0r11]

So you are calling it evidence? It is not an opinion?

[Legion109]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Stereotypes make the world go 'round. I refuse to live in some sort of tyrannical "paradise" where you can't express yourself because "someone" is going to get offended. Take it in stride, give it back and laugh it off.

You my fine friend kick *ss, two thumbs way way up.

- I am the Legion of 109 and I am the disturber of the disturbed -

(On a side note) - Shepard hears Voices in his head, they council him they understand, they talk to him -  

Modifié par Legion109, 24 avril 2012 - 03:20 .

[Uncle Jo]

lex0r11 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i never said anything about right time or laughing at people. you are reading into things again. im gonna laugh at people, once its proven im right, until then, whats there to laugh about?

waldstr18 wrote...

i actually want you to believe. who am i going to tell "in your face" if none of
you are left in summer?

You don't bring anything relevant to the disscusion.
Thread is for discussing the theory. You don't belong here with your intentions until you come up with a counterarguement backed with ingame or outgame evidence like everyone else in here does. And you made your intentions clear enough. Pages ago and just now.

Sorry to bump in this discussion. But I think you're giving him just what he wants (the attention he doesn't have in real life)

[Simon_Says]

waldstr18 wrote...

i think its common sense. imagine you writing a book, being proud of it, releasing it and then your readers say: we know the ending is so crappy it must be a dream, you are going to give us the real ending later, right?

how would you feel?

Well, I have a cousin of a friend of a friend who works at Bioware.

The team apparently felt very, very down when the ending feedback rolled in. They completely didn't expect it.*

*I don't know if they meant type or magnitude of feedback.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 24 avril 2012 - 03:19 .

[balance5050]

waldstr18 wrote...

i havent reflected on everyone else. thats you reading into thing again.

but i admit im gonna reflect on everyone if the idt is disproven. im sorry for that, but the "in your face" part only works by ridiculing the theory.

which doesnt mean i dont respect the guys who actually came up with it. cause i could never have done that. all that paying attention to detail. quite amazing. yet i think looking at mass effect as game, which is intended to sell for actual money, its pretty naive to still stick to to the idt. but i could be wrong, of course, who knows...

Pretty naive? I beleive it because a cliffhanger is better then the  ending by a mile!

Also, those details were put in the game on purpose because they did plan on having an indoctrination sequence at one time (November). So, Bioware actually "came up with it"

Modifié par balance5050, 24 avril 2012 - 03:19 .

[waldstr18]

lex0r11 wrote...

So you are calling it evidence? It is not an opinion?

who said anything about evidence? i said counter arguement.

why is everything evidence to you guys? evidence these, proof that...

[waldstr18]

Simon_Says wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i think its common sense. imagine you writing a book, being proud of it, releasing it and then your readers say: we know the ending is so crappy it must be a dream, you are going to give us the real ending later, right?

how would you feel?

Well, I have a cousin of a friend of a friend who works at Bioware.

The team apparently felt very, very down when the ending feedback rolled in. They completely didn't expect it.*

*I don't know if they meant type or magnitude of feedback.

thank you. who is a good fan boy now? me! me! me!

[UrgedDuke]

waldstr18 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i never said anything about right time or laughing at people. you are reading into things again. im gonna laugh at people, once its proven im right, until then, whats there to laugh about?

You really don't see the issue in this, do you?

You really don't understand why statements like this are antagonizing at the least and considered flamebait on the higher end of the spectrum?

actually i dont, cause it works the other way, too. what if im wrong? the only difference is that i dont call you stupid, troll or not a real fan in here until its actually proven, unlike a few guys in here. who are so sure that the idt is true, that everyone else is a moron for not seing the 50 clues in the game.

Theory, it's not a fact. I don't care of others call it a fact. I am a realist to know that it is still a theory. If some people made that statement to you, there is no reason to refelct in on everyone else.

waldstr18 wrote...

i did that a few times. come up with counter arguements.

like its pretentious of you to say that bioware gave us an unfinished game.

Where is the evidence for that? Or a clue?
What you have there is an opinion.

i think its common sense. imagine you writing a book, being proud of it, releasing it and then your readers say: we know the ending is so crappy it must be a dream, you are going to give us the real ending later, right?

how would you feel?

I would not be proud of the ME ending if I made it so I would understand. Pluse if I made a ton false promises about the ending and didn't deliver I would deserve the backlash and would be obligated to fix it

Modifié par UrgedDuke, 24 avril 2012 - 03:22 .