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Big Bad wrote...

Jesus, people! Can we please take the temperature down a few notches? This thread is decidely not fun to read or participate in when it turns into a pissed off circle jerk! Remember, Shepard's blue baby reads this thread, so be nice! :)


Yeah, I was going to repost that, but I have no idea where lex0r11 found it. :crying:

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Does shep actually have a "wound" where he has his left hand after anderson dies? I just finished this last night again, i didn't see any wound there. I meant to take a screenshot so i could examine it further later but i forgot.

His hand was bloodly, but weren't his entire arms and hands bloody ever since being hit by harbinger's beam?

My take on the shep hand-where-anderson-was-shot thing was that this was confusion from the indoctrination 'attempt' on both anderson and shep by illusive man. Shepard is checking himself because he's confused about who was even just shot, perhaps. Similar to the shared memory confusion the 2 guys on derelict reaper had.


yeah its where you shoot anderson, remember..... instead its as if shepard shoots himself.... LE GASP!!! its almost as if its evidence of the Indoctrination theory!!!!! HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!


Yes but im saying i didnt see any wound there on shepard.

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Big Bad wrote...

Jesus, people! Can we please take the temperature down a few notches? This thread is decidely not fun to read or participate in when it turns into a pissed off circle jerk! Remember, Shepard's blue baby reads this thread, so be nice! :)


T_T noooo.......... i......... liaras going to kill me...........

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Rksmithers wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Jesus, people! Can we please take the temperature down a few notches? This thread is decidely not fun to read or participate in when it turns into a pissed off circle jerk! Remember, Shepard's blue baby reads this thread, so be nice! :)


T_T noooo.......... i......... liaras going to kill me...........


Yeah, she'll probably finally feel that 1/4 Krogan and decide to headbutt you into oblivion.

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pistolols wrote...

Does shep actually have a "wound" where he has his left hand after anderson dies? I just finished this last night again, i didn't see any wound there. I meant to take a screenshot so i could examine it further later but i forgot.

His hand was bloodly, but weren't his entire arms and hands bloody ever since being hit by harbinger's beam?

My take on the shep hand-where-anderson-was-shot thing was that this was confusion from the indoctrination 'attempt' on both anderson and shep by illusive man. Shepard is checking himself because he's confused about who was even just shot, perhaps. Similar to the shared memory confusion the 2 guys on derelict reaper had.


I think his left side was covered in blood (hiding the actual injury).... however I dont think anderson had a wound after you shot him.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 24 avril 2012 - 02:51 .


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pistolols wrote...

Rksmithers wrote...

pistolols wrote...

Does shep actually have a "wound" where he has his left hand after anderson dies? I just finished this last night again, i didn't see any wound there. I meant to take a screenshot so i could examine it further later but i forgot.

His hand was bloodly, but weren't his entire arms and hands bloody ever since being hit by harbinger's beam?

My take on the shep hand-where-anderson-was-shot thing was that this was confusion from the indoctrination 'attempt' on both anderson and shep by illusive man. Shepard is checking himself because he's confused about who was even just shot, perhaps. Similar to the shared memory confusion the 2 guys on derelict reaper had.


yeah its where you shoot anderson, remember..... instead its as if shepard shoots himself.... LE GASP!!! its almost as if its evidence of the Indoctrination theory!!!!! HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!


Yes but im saying i didnt see any wound there on shepard.


its there, it could be under his uniform... but it is heavily implied, with the bleeding and all.......

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Somhow I think today we have "The day of the Troll"

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pistolols wrote...

Does shep actually have a "wound" where he has his left hand after anderson dies? I just finished this last night, i didn't see any wound there. I meant to take a screenshot so i could examine it further later but i forgot.

His hand was bloodly, but weren't his entire arms and hands bloody ever since being hit by harbinger's beam?

My take on the shep hand-where-anderson-was-shot thing was that this was confusion from the indoctrination 'attempt' on both anderson and shep by illusive man. Shepard is checking himself because he's confused about who was even just shot, perhaps. Similar to the shared memory confusion the 2 guys on derelict reaper had.


Not sure. Also if you look, yes there is some blood on Sheps arms but it's mostly just dirt.



Some explain this as being caused by the graphical jump during the cutscence.

Also, noone has yet given me any satisfying explantation as to why the whispers from the dreams happen during this scene. If they occur because Shep is being indoctrinated by TIm then this implies that the whispers in the dreams are also signs of indoctrination.

(this is when the whispers start. The very moment Anderson is paralysed)

Listen to the noise made when you see TIM for the first time. it's the same DUM DUM as the crucible decision music.

Modifié par SS2Dante, 24 avril 2012 - 02:53 .


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llbountyhunter wrote...

pistolols wrote...

Does shep actually have a "wound" where he has his left hand after anderson dies? I just finished this last night again, i didn't see any wound there. I meant to take a screenshot so i could examine it further later but i forgot.

His hand was bloodly, but weren't his entire arms and hands bloody ever since being hit by harbinger's beam?

My take on the shep hand-where-anderson-was-shot thing was that this was confusion from the indoctrination 'attempt' on both anderson and shep by illusive man. Shepard is checking himself because he's confused about who was even just shot, perhaps. Similar to the shared memory confusion the 2 guys on derelict reaper had.


I think his left side was covered in blood.... however I dont think anderson had a wound after you shot him.


In fact, if you look, Anderson is in pretty darn good shape.  I mean think about it, Shepard got blasted by the beam and got most of his armor blasted off or damaged, while Anderson was probably caught in the blast too but emerged almost completely unharmed.  He even had his frakking HAT!  His HAT!  I mean come ON!

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Vahilor wrote...

Somhow I think today we have "The day of the Troll"


To be honest, I think every day is like this.

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As far as I remember he was bleeding after the TIM confrontation, his left arm was covered in blood, but not before TIM or after being "beamed up".

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Big Bad wrote...

Jesus, people! Can we please take the temperature down a few notches? This thread is decidely not fun to read or participate in when it turns into a pissed off circle jerk! Remember, Shepard's blue baby reads this thread, so be nice! :)


'Greed.

..maybe you shouldn't use the phrase circle jerk in front of the big blue baby? ;)

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It seems the heat in this thread is rising. Is lex0r11 here? We need Liara, and fast!

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Dwailing wrote...

Rksmithers wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Jesus, people! Can we please take the temperature down a few notches? This thread is decidely not fun to read or participate in when it turns into a pissed off circle jerk! Remember, Shepard's blue baby reads this thread, so be nice! :)


T_T noooo.......... i......... liaras going to kill me...........


Yeah, she'll probably finally feel that 1/4 Krogan and decide to headbutt you into oblivion.


exactly........

#42915
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I'm actually tired of the Liara ones. Should do some more characters. Maybe Jack. "Jack thinks you all better shut the **** up before she ****ing destroys you!"

... But no really. Mix it up a little. Also, and I probably should wait a few weeks before the heat I get for that before saying this but... man, I'm so sick of the marauder shields meme. I don't mean "sniffles" sick. I mean small pox sick. Ebola sick. That meme should be shot with a thanix cannon.

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Rifneno wrote...

I'm actually tired of the Liara ones. Should do some more characters. Maybe Jack. "Jack thinks you all better shut the **** up before she ****ing destroys you!"

... But no really. Mix it up a little. Also, and I probably should wait a few weeks before the heat I get for that before saying this but... man, I'm so sick of the marauder shields meme. I don't mean "sniffles" sick. I mean small pox sick. Ebola sick. That meme should be shot with a thanix cannon.


I thought I would, but the comic just made it brilliant for me :P

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Dwailing wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

pistolols wrote...

Does shep actually have a "wound" where he has his left hand after anderson dies? I just finished this last night again, i didn't see any wound there. I meant to take a screenshot so i could examine it further later but i forgot.

His hand was bloodly, but weren't his entire arms and hands bloody ever since being hit by harbinger's beam?

My take on the shep hand-where-anderson-was-shot thing was that this was confusion from the indoctrination 'attempt' on both anderson and shep by illusive man. Shepard is checking himself because he's confused about who was even just shot, perhaps. Similar to the shared memory confusion the 2 guys on derelict reaper had.


I think his left side was covered in blood.... however I dont think anderson had a wound after you shot him.


In fact, if you look, Anderson is in pretty darn good shape.  I mean think about it, Shepard got blasted by the beam and got most of his armor blasted off or damaged, while Anderson was probably caught in the blast too but emerged almost completely unharmed.  He even had his frakking HAT!  His HAT!  I mean come ON!


exactly if that also doesnt scream INDOCTRINATION!!!! i really dont know what will................

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Rifneno wrote...

I'm actually tired of the Liara ones. Should do some more characters. Maybe Jack. "Jack thinks you all better shut the **** up before she ****ing destroys you!"

... But no really. Mix it up a little. Also, and I probably should wait a few weeks before the heat I get for that before saying this but... man, I'm so sick of the marauder shields meme. I don't mean "sniffles" sick. I mean small pox sick. Ebola sick. That meme should be shot with a thanix cannon.


nah liara never gets old! shes an asari......

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...... the quiet after a battle........... its....... perfect.......

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I asked this a while ago but it got lost in all the rage flying around so I'll try again: Shouldn't garrus die according to starchild logic if you pick destroy: He suffered a fatal injury in ME2 and looked pretty bad. So I'm assuming there might be a fair amount of life-saving synthetics that went inside him. Is my assumption valid or its too much? (I dont remember exactly but I have a feeling it was actually mentioned by Chakwas when she fixed him, been a while since I played ME2).

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pirate1802 wrote...

I asked this a while ago but it got lost in all the rage flying around so I'll try again: Shouldn't garrus die according to starchild logic if you pick destroy: He suffered a fatal injury in ME2 and looked pretty bad. So I'm assuming there might be a fair amount of life-saving synthetics that went inside him. Is my assumption valid or its too much? (I dont remember exactly but I have a feeling it was actually mentioned by Chakwas when she fixed him, been a while since I played ME2).


Synthetics did come up during that conversation, but I can't remember if she was saying she gave Garrus them or not...hmm.

Lol, destroy ending, Garrus' head explodes :P

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Aw dang has pistolols gone? i was looking forward to hearing his take on the blood and stuff. Fresh eyes.

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SS2Dante wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

I asked this a while ago but it got lost in all the rage flying around so I'll try again: Shouldn't garrus die according to starchild logic if you pick destroy: He suffered a fatal injury in ME2 and looked pretty bad. So I'm assuming there might be a fair amount of life-saving synthetics that went inside him. Is my assumption valid or its too much? (I dont remember exactly but I have a feeling it was actually mentioned by Chakwas when she fixed him, been a while since I played ME2).


Synthetics did come up during that conversation, but I can't remember if she was saying she gave Garrus them or not...hmm.

Lol, destroy ending, Garrus' head explodes :P


The only thing that kept me from completely breaking down during the ending was the thought that atleast garrus (My shep's LI) is OK :'(

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pirate1802 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

I asked this a while ago but it got lost in all the rage flying around so I'll try again: Shouldn't garrus die according to starchild logic if you pick destroy: He suffered a fatal injury in ME2 and looked pretty bad. So I'm assuming there might be a fair amount of life-saving synthetics that went inside him. Is my assumption valid or its too much? (I dont remember exactly but I have a feeling it was actually mentioned by Chakwas when she fixed him, been a while since I played ME2).


Synthetics did come up during that conversation, but I can't remember if she was saying she gave Garrus them or not...hmm.

Lol, destroy ending, Garrus' head explodes :P


The only thing that kept me from completely breaking down during the ending was the thought that atleast garrus (My shep's LI) is OK :'(


Garrus mentions, when he Shep meets first after the surgery that he has gotten some cybernetics.

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Vahilor wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

I asked this a while ago but it got lost in all the rage flying around so I'll try again: Shouldn't garrus die according to starchild logic if you pick destroy: He suffered a fatal injury in ME2 and looked pretty bad. So I'm assuming there might be a fair amount of life-saving synthetics that went inside him. Is my assumption valid or its too much? (I dont remember exactly but I have a feeling it was actually mentioned by Chakwas when she fixed him, been a while since I played ME2).


Synthetics did come up during that conversation, but I can't remember if she was saying she gave Garrus them or not...hmm.

Lol, destroy ending, Garrus' head explodes :P


The only thing that kept me from completely breaking down during the ending was the thought that atleast garrus (My shep's LI) is OK :'(


Garrus mentions, when he Shep meets first after the surgery that he has gotten some cybernetics.


Yeah I checked my screenshots too (I have a twichy habit of taking screenshots all the time), so seeing the extent of his injury its safe to assume those cybernetics were life-saving. So we have another evidence of starbrat's BS?