pistolols wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
pistolols wrote...
Does shep actually have a "wound" where he has his left hand after anderson dies? I just finished this last night, i didn't see any wound there. I meant to take a screenshot so i could examine it further later but i forgot.
His hand was bloodly, but weren't his entire arms and hands bloody ever since being hit by harbinger's beam?
My take on the shep hand-where-anderson-was-shot thing was that this was confusion from the indoctrination 'attempt' on both anderson and shep by illusive man. Shepard is checking himself because he's confused about who was even just shot, perhaps. Similar to the shared memory confusion the 2 guys on derelict reaper had.
Not sure. Also if you look, yes there is some blood on Sheps arms but it's mostly just dirt.
Some explain this as being caused by the graphical jump during the cutscence.
Also, noone has yet given me any satisfying explantation as to why the whispers from the dreams happen during this scene. If they occur because Shep is being indoctrinated by TIm then this implies that the whispers in the dreams are also signs of indoctrination.
(this is when the whispers start. The very moment Anderson is paralysed)
Listen to the noise made when you see TIM for the first time. it's the same DUM DUM as the crucible decision music.
Looks like his arms vary in how bloody/dirty they are in each scene. After he beams up into the citadel his arms and hand look pretty bloody as he's getting up off the ground, but then they're cleaner looking during conversation with illusive man. But they are certainly the most bloodly looking when he is sitting down there and looks at his hand. Hard to know what to make of it all.
That is interesting about the whispers, i didnt realize they were the same. But either way "hearing voices" is a known key step in indoctrination so without a doubt there is indoctrination going on during the citadel scene. But I think it's actually happening and is not a hallucination.
Another thing, has anyone posed the question if Anderson is really born in London at all? or does he just keep saying that because it's the confused/shared memory of the actual english guy (i don't recall his name) who is there working with anderson? Implying of course a similarity to the 2 guys in the video on derelict reaper. Either way it is very odd scene when he says he's born in London on the shuttle then there is a pause and Anderson's eyes stare to the side at shepard in a strange manner.
I do agree about indoctrination happening in the TIM scene, literal or not (you know some people try to argue it's not an indoctrination attempt?). And I also agree about the whispers definitely (in that scene) being a sign of indoctrination. What interests me is more that it's the same whispers in the dream, when they really shouldn't be. If the dream is PTSD then why the indoctrination whispers? That doesn't make any sense.
And fair enough about the blood. It's the framing of the scene that most interested me. The timing is odd. Shepard looks down at the wound, surprised, mere moment's after Anderson died? Why not show the wound when he first wakes up? Or when Hackett calls (that way we can see Shep is too wounded to get to the console)? It reminds me too much of the sort of stuff they did in FIght Club, where one (imaginary) character would walk into a room half a second after any witnesses had left. The sharpness of the appearance was a clue.
But skepticism, fair enough




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