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Lugaidster wrote...

lil_89 wrote...

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No. The current theory is that the old man and the kid found one of Liara's time capsules and learned about "The Shepard" and space flight.


Does anyone know how far into the future that's supposed to be? Also, am I the only one that thinks it could be the planet the Normandy crashed on (it has the same number of moons, not that that necessarily means anything)?

Fun fact: the voice actor for the old man is none other than Buzz Aldrin the astronaut.


I though so too. Choose destroy ending and saw three humans step out of the ship, then that epilogue came and I was like; sooo, Ahs, Joker and Vega restarted the population huh. ewwwwwww *shrug*


If repopulating the planet depended on you screwing your sister would you do it?


Don't know how that would work, since I am a girl myself :P  and I'd rather not take a stand on that issue as it is highly unlikely to happen. I guess "you gotta do what what you gotta do" in that situation, but still it is a disturbing though

Modifié par lil_89, 12 mars 2012 - 01:34 .


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Soilworker77 wrote...

One thing I am wondering about after you get hit by the red laser beam, is what happend to Shepards armor?

You run down towards the Citadel beam thing, then boom you get hit and all of a sudden the armor is gone? Doesn't make sense to me, and yet if the armor got vaporized or some such, wouldn't Shepard have severe burns in that case?


Perhaps it's ablative armor

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lil_89 wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

lil_89 wrote...

Omilophile wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...
No. The current theory is that the old man and the kid found one of Liara's time capsules and learned about "The Shepard" and space flight.


Does anyone know how far into the future that's supposed to be? Also, am I the only one that thinks it could be the planet the Normandy crashed on (it has the same number of moons, not that that necessarily means anything)?

Fun fact: the voice actor for the old man is none other than Buzz Aldrin the astronaut.


I though so too. Choose destroy ending and saw three humans step out of the ship, then that epilogue came and I was like; sooo, Ahs, Joker and Vega restarted the population huh. ewwwwwww *shrug*


If repopulating the planet depended on you screwing your sister would you do it?


Don't know how that would work, since I am a girl myself :P  and I'd rather not take a stand on that issue as it is highly unlikely to happen. I guess "you gotta do what what you gotta do" in that situation, but still it is a disturbing though


and wouldn't get you very far without genetic perfection.

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Soilworker77 wrote...

One thing I am wondering about after you get hit by the red laser beam, is what happend to Shepards armor?

You run down towards the Citadel beam thing, then boom you get hit and all of a sudden the armor is gone? Doesn't make sense to me, and yet if the armor got vaporized or some such, wouldn't Shepard have severe burns in that case?


He has severe burns, he's pratically a walking corpse 'till the death of Anderson. Then, all of a sudden, he starts to talk with ghosts, runnin' (He has a hole the size of a fist in his belly btw), shooting and so on. It doesn't make any sense.

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Sheparded wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

lil_89 wrote...

Omilophile wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...
No. The current theory is that the old man and the kid found one of Liara's time capsules and learned about "The Shepard" and space flight.


Does anyone know how far into the future that's supposed to be? Also, am I the only one that thinks it could be the planet the Normandy crashed on (it has the same number of moons, not that that necessarily means anything)?

Fun fact: the voice actor for the old man is none other than Buzz Aldrin the astronaut.


Would you?

I though so too. Choose destroy ending and saw three humans step out of the ship, then that epilogue came and I was like; sooo, Ahs, Joker and Vega restarted the population huh. ewwwwwww *shrug*


If repopulating the planet depended on you screwing your sister would you do it?


I'm pretty sure that in small tribes you end up procreating with at least cousins. You could probably assume the same for small towns (less the 50 population). It's not politically correct, but in this circumstances, I'd tend to believe that mantaining the species primes. 

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Re-quoting if missed.

Ona Demonie wrote...

The ending indeed seemed rushed from the graphics alone. The graphics were blocky and not as refined as the graphics in the other parts of the game. The light itself was four transparent textures with a glow shader added in. Same goes for the platform. If you walk TOWARDS Earth, you'll enter a "Hall of Mirrors" where the polygons reflect forever. Surely someone had to see this during testing.

Plus, yes, it looks like Shepard does have a hole in her leg. The scene where Shepard wakes up had a metal wire quite close to Shep's leg.



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Lugaidster wrote...

Ok, scratch reaper and replace with even more advanced synthetic life.


Why would we assume it's impossible?  "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."  Other galaxies have had hundreds of millions of years to advance their technology while ours had a lid on it because of the Reapers.
Also, you mention the fact there's virtually no light between galaxies.  There's also virtually no gravity.  Meaning a synthetic would only need to propel itself to an incredibly speed and then it could pretty much go dormant until it gets to its location.  Even if it takes a few million years, what's the difference?  They're not going to die of old age.  And that's assuming they haven't figured out how to use wormholes and just "teleport" whereever they damn well please.

If this problem of super advanced AI deciding to go all Skynet on all organic life was real, then it's not a matter of "if" a godlike robodemon comes from another galaxy and cuts down everything, Reapers included, with ease.  It's a matter of "when."  And given the age of the universe, "when" should've come and passed a very long time ago.

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ratzerman wrote...

I'd rather be trolled than betrayed. Hope this theory is true...


Exactly. I'd also rather they lied and said this was the plan than just out right refusing to change the ending.

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David Bergsma wrote...

Soilworker77 wrote...

One thing I am wondering about after you get hit by the red laser beam, is what happend to Shepards armor?

You run down towards the Citadel beam thing, then boom you get hit and all of a sudden the armor is gone? Doesn't make sense to me, and yet if the armor got vaporized or some such, wouldn't Shepard have severe burns in that case?


He has severe burns, he's pratically a walking corpse 'till the death of Anderson. Then, all of a sudden, he starts to talk with ghosts, runnin' (He has a hole the size of a fist in his belly btw), shooting and so on. It doesn't make any sense.


Shepard's one mean motha huh?!

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Ona Demonie wrote...

Could be Shepard's present but in another star system or few years. Maybe 50+. Remember, the Reapers didn't eliminate every species. Since space flight isn't available for the Grandpa and kid, it's possible the Reapers left them alone while they learned about Shepard. It's probably present or a few years in the future since if they found the time capsule, they still haven't achieved space flight. Or they're close to it.

The planet could be the same as the Normandy crash, but if they really are inbred descendants, shouldn't they have known all the details? Also, it doesn't make sense for them to be inbred if the crew mates that come out the Normandy are Joker, your LI, and someone else. Or Joker, EDI, and your LI. I had Joker, Kaidan, and Javik, so they couldn't have populated.


They looked pretty distinctly human, though, so I'd guess it'd have to be a lot more than 50 years for them to be saying "The Shepard". I'm thinking tens of thousands of years. Think about it. We know a lot about people from the 1800's. Why would fifty years cause them to not even realize Shepard is his name? Yet it's speculated that Greek gods (and gods from many other cultures as well) are just stories of real people warped by the passage of time.
 
Also, I didn't mean to imply they were inbred descendants, I was just saying that they looked like they could be the same planet. The Normandy crew could've left or died and then other humans eventually stumbled upon it and colonized it. Or the Normandy crew stayed and told the tale, but as I suggested earlier, it could've gotten distorted.

Not trying to argue, just adding to the pool of speculation...

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lil_89 wrote...

Omilophile wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...
No. The current theory is that the old man and the kid found one of Liara's time capsules and learned about "The Shepard" and space flight.


Does anyone know how far into the future that's supposed to be? Also, am I the only one that thinks it could be the planet the Normandy crashed on (it has the same number of moons, not that that necessarily means anything)?

Fun fact: the voice actor for the old man is none other than Buzz Aldrin the astronaut.


I though so too. Choose destroy ending and saw three humans step out of the ship, then that epilogue came and I was like; sooo, Ahs, Joker and Vega restarted the population huh. ewwwwwww *shrug*


hm i just think that the last scene should told us that our "loved" us are safe.. nothing more

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Rifneno wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

Ok, scratch reaper and replace with even more advanced synthetic life.


Why would we assume it's impossible?  "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."  Other galaxies have had hundreds of millions of years to advance their technology while ours had a lid on it because of the Reapers.
Also, you mention the fact there's virtually no light between galaxies.  There's also virtually no gravity.  Meaning a synthetic would only need to propel itself to an incredibly speed and then it could pretty much go dormant until it gets to its location.  Even if it takes a few million years, what's the difference?  They're not going to die of old age.  And that's assuming they haven't figured out how to use wormholes and just "teleport" whereever they damn well please.

If this problem of super advanced AI deciding to go all Skynet on all organic life was real, then it's not a matter of "if" a godlike robodemon comes from another galaxy and cuts down everything, Reapers included, with ease.  It's a matter of "when."  And given the age of the universe, "when" should've come and passed a very long time ago.


Are we still talking about Mass Effect here? Because I have the feeling this just got way off-topic.

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Was Multiplayer really worth it??? I mean ME 3 was supposed to be released around early

Oct/November last year but was pushed back because of EA/Bioware need to reach First Person

Shooters, by making multiplayer, (hence Battlefiled 3 fans could get early access) thats my wild

guess, and because of the delay, a few weeks later in later 2011, a leaked script of ME 3 was accidentally

released, meaning ME 3 was re written to counter the leak in the story and still be able to surprise

the fans. (Imagine if Bioware had just released the game prior to that event, ME 3 would have been a perfect story. than provide Multiplayer to those FPS months later like in march and make them pay for it as DLC) the bottom line is the ending of Mass Effect 3 was bad ending SAID by 1000s of LEGION hardcore fans like me! .....THATS OUR CONCENSUS!...........My advice,,, Greed shouldn't mix with passion game making,,,,,just look at Star Wars

Episode 1, 2, 3,,,,George Lucas wanted to make big money and out do James Cameron who out

did everyone with Titanic! I researched this and its true according to many!....To Bioware...I want to

express deeply that the game played well of course BUT the last 15 minutes of the story was very

terrible & disappointing ,,,,,,story telling,,,(notice i didn't say say sad?),it was exactly like Dues ex ending which was weird,
,moreover, no planet exploration like ME 1,,,,what ever hard work we did in the last 5 years mounted to 3 decisions at the end of

ME 3 that didn't change the ending outcome either way! That was not fair to Hardcore Fans!

Also the story I expected in ME 3 was not what i had hope to see, now I thought Mac Walters did a fine job in the Story Telling and Casey Hudson was protecting Mass Effect game from being ruined so I thank them a lot, Im Thankful that Bioware made MASS EFFECT but im just confused about important things,,Like I really think you should hire fans who know the story well and who could have input to make the game and story have more continuity : For example: if you hired a hardcore fan=

-One would say that they would expect the Finale of Mass Effect 3 would progress to these end results!
1. would if you had written the story where shepard and his crew had to discover the origin of the reapers was from another galaxy, that we travel there in the end just to find their home and run with for at least one or two missions. to take them out! That would be a surprise and blow fans minds if so! thats a surprise right? how did we take back earth if shepard says to the prothean that to have the people around and their relation is worth living or fighting for! but we not only took back earth we, lost everything that made earth great to the galaxy, its economy, love in the vids that other aliens seek, so shepard dies any ways and the prothean lives who has no friends left and hes the only prothean alive?...and since the mass relays are gone what happened to everybody else, what was the point for war assets, i mean i didn't even play multiplayer, since i was so into the story for ME 3 and was eager to discover the ending to this saga! but my heart for the story was crushed! :(

2. Why couldn't we explore just a few planets in order to find some ancient alien tech that was crucial to building the crucible,. like land on the actual planet and explore with a vehicle and find the parts or pieces that are hidden from the reapers. the vistas and the feeling of actual planet exploration would feel right? i would like to see big vistas and enter another plant's forest or rift valley!!!

3. why couldn't we say that dark energy like from the star of haestrom had a significant role in taking down the reapers.

4. if the reapers are in dark space, why could we have a story that included and had a function in the reasoning why the reapers had to reside there and just made exploration and outer galaxy travel kinda interesting,

5. it would make since to me that reapers harvest organics because they needed also as energy to fuel their machine bodies and to build more reapers.

6. if reapers were to take advance races and be built to look like that race why did every reaper look the same? what was the point of the human reaper in ME 2, why didn't we see collectors, since they were reported on Paloven?

7. if the reapers were around since the beginning what were their intentions in creating organics in the first place, and yes they said they were afraid that the created would turn on their creators but the creators had no clue how pleasant being an organic was! and who was the star child since the last 15 minutes of that story ending was so irrelevant to 99.9% of the Mass Effect story prior!

8. why didn't we find out how many times exactly the reapers harvested us or how many cycles there was,,,,what were the aliens before us like with details and cultures presented, and why couldn't Javik had known more about the ilos planet and tell us ME 1 stuff, what was the sphere all about, the shiny one where the protheans had left behind?

9. ME 3 also seemed short, it normally takes me 80 hours to play ME 1 but ME 3 took like 45 hours, which means less of everything for some reason,,,,

10. Lastly, Bioware regardless of how much effort you made to complete ME trilogy,,,,over the last 3 years i have lost faith in expecting the right story telling and rudimentary ME 1 play style , i mean the FPS experience is great, the music is great, the graphics was great, but something was missing, where it feels like you guys didn't hit the nail right on the head for Hardcore MASS EFFECT fans!

SO now when i play ME 1 again, I feel like working hard is point less because at the end, the difference in the decisions in a,b,c is i get 3 different colors on how the mass relays are self destroyed, one video scene of joker with EDI versus the other 2 that look the same, and one video shot of the Citidel not being destroyed but closed permanently, and all the alien races stuck in the sol system who wil be cramped I would think! and the Quarians won their home world for nothing because their stuck in the sol system and Joker with your crew are stuck on some unknown planet, and why was Joker fleeing the sol system, I thought he had Shepard's back?

THERE ARE SO MANY LOOSE ENDS! I DON'T FEEL CLOSURE AT ALL SORRY :(

P.S. i HAVE READ EVERY MASS EFFECT NOVEL, COMIC, OWN OVER 20 MASS EFFECT LITHOGRAPHS, I'VE SPENT 100s OF DOLLARS ON MASS EFFECT SWAG AND I LOVE THE STORY BUT THE FINALE HAS REALLY SOLIDIFIED THE ASSUMPTION BIOWARE STORY TELLING IS WHAT IT USED TO NOT TO BE! I BEAT ME 3 6 HOURS AGO AND IM FEELING HEARTBROKEN ABOUT THE STORY'S ENDING! OVERALL I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET HOOKED ON A BIOWARE EVER AGAIN! :(

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I'm all for hallucination/indoctrination idea. Actually the more I think of it the more sense it has.

I wouldn't say that everything that happend after Shep's been shoot wasn't real. In way it was real. It's like a test of belive or something. When during my first playtrough I had to made decision, destroying Reapers actually seemed like a bad idea! Even with everything that we learn trough all three games. It's just seemed like control or synthesis is a better option.  I was really confused. But well.
Maybe that's exactly the point.
That's why I think it's totally going to be hallucination/indoctrination thingy.  It's Reapers doing. Reapers trying to make Shepard belive that she (or he) was wrong and that destroying the Reapers is actually the worst choice to make.
Also that's why the child is the catalyst. (Actually it's abit like what TIM did - giving Shepard something familiar to gain some trust).
Anyway, I would say that the ending we have so far is real. Only it's not the actual end. It's Reapers trying to mess with Shepard's head so she (fine, or he ;)  gave up. 

It's actually a great idea. Or it would be if the "actual "game didn't end at that point. I understand that they want have a door to make DLC's and such but I'm pretty sure they could do that even if they gave us a proper ending in the "actual" game. So what that we could play dlc's after finishing the game. We would play it over and over again anyway.

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A couple of things to consider (forgive me if they have been said)
1. The most obvious, you cannot breathe in the vacuum of space, where you are standing when you make your "choice" there is nothing to keep the air in except maybe a ME field, however that wouldn't explain the fact you can breathe in the rubble (assuming that rubble was meant to be the citadel rubble).
2. Normandy escaping the blast, well, considering that the Normandy is the most advanced ship in the Alliance Navy do you really think Hackett would allow it to just run off? Additionally, would your crew be willing to run off like that? They did after all say they are willing to give their lives...

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themidz wrote...

hm i just think that the last scene should told us that our "loved" us are safe.. nothing more


Still, one does wonder...

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Omilophile wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Could be Shepard's present but in another star system or few years. Maybe 50+. Remember, the Reapers didn't eliminate every species. Since space flight isn't available for the Grandpa and kid, it's possible the Reapers left them alone while they learned about Shepard. It's probably present or a few years in the future since if they found the time capsule, they still haven't achieved space flight. Or they're close to it.

The planet could be the same as the Normandy crash, but if they really are inbred descendants, shouldn't they have known all the details? Also, it doesn't make sense for them to be inbred if the crew mates that come out the Normandy are Joker, your LI, and someone else. Or Joker, EDI, and your LI. I had Joker, Kaidan, and Javik, so they couldn't have populated.


They looked pretty distinctly human, though, so I'd guess it'd have to be a lot more than 50 years for them to be saying "The Shepard". I'm thinking tens of thousands of years. Think about it. We know a lot about people from the 1800's. Why would fifty years cause them to not even realize Shepard is his name? Yet it's speculated that Greek gods (and gods from many other cultures as well) are just stories of real people warped by the passage of time.
 
Also, I didn't mean to imply they were inbred descendants, I was just saying that they looked like they could be the same planet. The Normandy crew could've left or died and then other humans eventually stumbled upon it and colonized it. Or the Normandy crew stayed and told the tale, but as I suggested earlier, it could've gotten distorted.

Not trying to argue, just adding to the pool of speculation...

Oh, I'm not arguing either. I'm just discussing and providing thoughts. Haha, sorry if I came across as that.

And you raise a good point. "The Shepard" could be seen as a god-like figure and over time, they think he/she really was a god. 

I stated the "inbred descendants" because a lot of people believe that the grandpa and the kid are descendants of the Normandy crew. I don't think BioWare is crazy enough to have the Grandpa and the kid to be inbred descendans.

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Ona Demonie wrote...

Re-quoting if missed.

Ona Demonie wrote...

The ending indeed seemed rushed from the graphics alone. The graphics were blocky and not as refined as the graphics in the other parts of the game. The light itself was four transparent textures with a glow shader added in. Same goes for the platform. If you walk TOWARDS Earth, you'll enter a "Hall of Mirrors" where the polygons reflect forever. Surely someone had to see this during testing.

Plus, yes, it looks like Shepard does have a hole in her leg. The scene where Shepard wakes up had a metal wire quite close to Shep's leg.




yes, and that is why i think that we saw just few scenes from the original ending and the rest was cut off.. i dont know why, but it just happened.

Modifié par themidz, 12 mars 2012 - 01:46 .


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themidz wrote...

lil_89 wrote...

Omilophile wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...
No. The current theory is that the old man and the kid found one of Liara's time capsules and learned about "The Shepard" and space flight.


Does anyone know how far into the future that's supposed to be? Also, am I the only one that thinks it could be the planet the Normandy crashed on (it has the same number of moons, not that that necessarily means anything)?

Fun fact: the voice actor for the old man is none other than Buzz Aldrin the astronaut.


I though so too. Choose destroy ending and saw three humans step out of the ship, then that epilogue came and I was like; sooo, Ahs, Joker and Vega restarted the population huh. ewwwwwww *shrug*


hm i just think that the last scene should told us that our "loved" us are safe.. nothing more


Save? On a empty planet without tech? I'm
pretty sure Tali and Garrus will be excited to find out if they can eat something on
the planet. Should they find anything.

And all the inbreeding that has to happen to get civilisation running again.

:blink:

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Despite this endings, BioWare Indoctrinated players minds. I don't like endings too but something is in there. All of us have ideas about Halucinating or Indoctrinated. Maybe both. But something wrong here. Like I said. BioWare Indoctrinated our minds with those endings and most likely Expansion/DLCs already working and coming very soon...

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orionshield wrote...

Was Multiplayer really worth it??? I mean ME 3 was supposed to be released around early

Oct/November last year but was pushed back because of EA/Bioware need to reach First Person

Shooters, by making multiplayer, (hence Battlefiled 3 fans could get early access) thats my wild

guess, and because of the delay, a few weeks later in later 2011, a leaked script of ME 3 was accidentally

released, meaning ME 3 was re written to counter the leak in the story and still be able to surprise

the fans. (Imagine if Bioware had just released the game prior to that event, ME 3 would have been a perfect story. than provide Multiplayer to those FPS months later like in march and make them pay for it as DLC) the bottom line is the ending of Mass Effect 3 was bad ending SAID by 1000s of LEGION hardcore fans like me! .....THATS OUR CONCENSUS!...........My advice,,, Greed shouldn't mix with passion game making,,,,,just look at Star Wars

Episode 1, 2, 3,,,,George Lucas wanted to make big money and out do James Cameron who out

did everyone with Titanic! I researched this and its true according to many!....To Bioware...I want to

express deeply that the game played well of course BUT the last 15 minutes of the story was very

terrible & disappointing ,,,,,,story telling,,,(notice i didn't say say sad?),it was exactly like Dues ex ending which was weird,
,moreover, no planet exploration like ME 1,,,,what ever hard work we did in the last 5 years mounted to 3 decisions at the end of

ME 3 that didn't change the ending outcome either way! That was not fair to Hardcore Fans!

Also the story I expected in ME 3 was not what i had hope to see, now I thought Mac Walters did a fine job in the Story Telling and Casey Hudson was protecting Mass Effect game from being ruined so I thank them a lot, Im Thankful that Bioware made MASS EFFECT but im just confused about important things,,Like I really think you should hire fans who know the story well and who could have input to make the game and story have more continuity : For example: if you hired a hardcore fan=

-One would say that they would expect the Finale of Mass Effect 3 would progress to these end results!
1. would if you had written the story where shepard and his crew had to discover the origin of the reapers was from another galaxy, that we travel there in the end just to find their home and run with for at least one or two missions. to take them out! That would be a surprise and blow fans minds if so! thats a surprise right? how did we take back earth if shepard says to the prothean that to have the people around and their relation is worth living or fighting for! but we not only took back earth we, lost everything that made earth great to the galaxy, its economy, love in the vids that other aliens seek, so shepard dies any ways and the prothean lives who has no friends left and hes the only prothean alive?...and since the mass relays are gone what happened to everybody else, what was the point for war assets, i mean i didn't even play multiplayer, since i was so into the story for ME 3 and was eager to discover the ending to this saga! but my heart for the story was crushed! :(

2. Why couldn't we explore just a few planets in order to find some ancient alien tech that was crucial to building the crucible,. like land on the actual planet and explore with a vehicle and find the parts or pieces that are hidden from the reapers. the vistas and the feeling of actual planet exploration would feel right? i would like to see big vistas and enter another plant's forest or rift valley!!!

3. why couldn't we say that dark energy like from the star of haestrom had a significant role in taking down the reapers.

4. if the reapers are in dark space, why could we have a story that included and had a function in the reasoning why the reapers had to reside there and just made exploration and outer galaxy travel kinda interesting,

5. it would make since to me that reapers harvest organics because they needed also as energy to fuel their machine bodies and to build more reapers.

6. if reapers were to take advance races and be built to look like that race why did every reaper look the same? what was the point of the human reaper in ME 2, why didn't we see collectors, since they were reported on Paloven?

7. if the reapers were around since the beginning what were their intentions in creating organics in the first place, and yes they said they were afraid that the created would turn on their creators but the creators had no clue how pleasant being an organic was! and who was the star child since the last 15 minutes of that story ending was so irrelevant to 99.9% of the Mass Effect story prior!

8. why didn't we find out how many times exactly the reapers harvested us or how many cycles there was,,,,what were the aliens before us like with details and cultures presented, and why couldn't Javik had known more about the ilos planet and tell us ME 1 stuff, what was the sphere all about, the shiny one where the protheans had left behind?

9. ME 3 also seemed short, it normally takes me 80 hours to play ME 1 but ME 3 took like 45 hours, which means less of everything for some reason,,,,

10. Lastly, Bioware regardless of how much effort you made to complete ME trilogy,,,,over the last 3 years i have lost faith in expecting the right story telling and rudimentary ME 1 play style , i mean the FPS experience is great, the music is great, the graphics was great, but something was missing, where it feels like you guys didn't hit the nail right on the head for Hardcore MASS EFFECT fans!

SO now when i play ME 1 again, I feel like working hard is point less because at the end, the difference in the decisions in a,b,c is i get 3 different colors on how the mass relays are self destroyed, one video scene of joker with EDI versus the other 2 that look the same, and one video shot of the Citidel not being destroyed but closed permanently, and all the alien races stuck in the sol system who wil be cramped I would think! and the Quarians won their home world for nothing because their stuck in the sol system and Joker with your crew are stuck on some unknown planet, and why was Joker fleeing the sol system, I thought he had Shepard's back?

THERE ARE SO MANY LOOSE ENDS! I DON'T FEEL CLOSURE AT ALL SORRY :(

P.S. i HAVE READ EVERY MASS EFFECT NOVEL, COMIC, OWN OVER 20 MASS EFFECT LITHOGRAPHS, I'VE SPENT 100s OF DOLLARS ON MASS EFFECT SWAG AND I LOVE THE STORY BUT THE FINALE HAS REALLY SOLIDIFIED THE ASSUMPTION BIOWARE STORY TELLING IS WHAT IT USED TO NOT TO BE! I BEAT ME 3 6 HOURS AGO AND IM FEELING HEARTBROKEN ABOUT THE STORY'S ENDING! OVERALL I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET HOOKED ON A BIOWARE EVER AGAIN! :(


Dude! WTH is wrong with writing properly! TL;DR and format didn't help.

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Omilophile

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Ona Demonie wrote...

Oh, I'm not arguing either. I'm just discussing and providing thoughts. Haha, sorry if I came across as that.

And you raise a good point. "The Shepard" could be seen as a god-like figure and over time, they think he/she really was a god. 

I stated the "inbred descendants" because a lot of people believe that the grandpa and the kid are descendants of the Normandy crew. I don't think BioWare is crazy enough to have the Grandpa and the kid to be inbred descendans.


It's all good. I was just making sure you knew that I wasn't arguing. This reminds me of my childhood. Me and my friends would stay up late and discuss history and such. We would speculate about things like Atlantis and also about more easily proven things. Oh, the memories. Sorry that was off topic...

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Well, I'll give them one thing: if their goal was to get people talking about the ending, they certainly succeeded.

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I hope this theory is true. I assume the PC version been has sifted through and no one's found any "real" hidden endings to be unlocked later by Bioware (assuming the "waiting for all regions to get the game" thing is true)?

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Ahh good morning everybody xD happened something with Bioware? Is there a new info that I could missed?

And: Has anybody noticed Shepards red scars on the citadel? These scars were from his (unfinished)resurrection after the Lazarus project...After I noticed these scars I thought WTF? Why are these scars on his face? I corrected these scars with this biomachine in ME2, but why the hell are they still there on the end? This is....crazy and mysterious...