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[DJBare]

spotlessvoid wrote..
I'm not the one who made that ridiculous statement. Done talking about this.

They are only effective if responded too, they already have the weapon, it's the respondant that supplies them with the ammo.

[Vahilor]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Reposting this from another thread, stuffs inspirational. Or at least calming.

Reignite - Mass Effect/Shepard Tribute Song

Thanks for that. It was,..... moving.

You should check out some more of her songs, she has a very moving voice

Very nice song.. somhow.. would the endings be only half as good as her songs and the one Miracle of Sound made.. the endings still would be good... *sniff*

Modifié par Vahilor, 25 avril 2012 - 10:20 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Vahilor wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Reposting this from another thread, stuffs inspirational. Or at least calming.

Reignite - Mass Effect/Shepard Tribute Song

Thanks for that. It was,..... moving.

You should check out some more of her songs, she has a very moving voice

Very nice song.. somhow.. would the endings be only half as good as her songs and the one Miracle of Sound made.. the endings still would be good... *sniff*

Your wording is a little confusing.... but I know what you mean...

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

I have been thinking about the Rachni Queen. Despite what Bioware said her role in ME3 was kinda minimal, beeing simply a war asset, so I though about how they could change that in EC and i have an idea.

If you spare the queen she says that "when the time comes we will ad our voice to yours." Now if the IT turns out to be ture there is a way this quote could be become very litteral. If we say that Shepard becomes Indoctrinated or at least takes a heavy step in that direction, one that might turn the tide, if he chooses Control or Synthesis having spared the Rachni Queen could become a saving grace for a player making that choice.

We know from the Asari in ME2 that the Rachni can interact with the mid of living creatureas as well to some extent and the Rachni Queen resisted Indoctrination, so perhaps it can transfer some of that resistance to Shepard if he makes the wrong choice allowing for a "good" ending to be acheived regardless of of a wrong choice in the Indoctrination process. A loss in such a case could be the Queen dying in the process of getting close enough to perform that interaction.

This is just pure speculation from my side, but it would fullfill the "the Rachni choice has large conseqeunces we were promised."

[Vahilor]

Yes I should have left out the "still" ^^ @gunslinger

[SS2Dante]

Right I'll jump back on here for a second then go back to bed
~
For those who missed it, I found out something about the child that essentially closes the argument on his existence. If you play the intro scenes again without music, during the cutscene with the shuttle there is zero noise (apart from two Reaper growls). However, the second the shuttle is hit with Harby's laser you hear a high, childlike SCREAM. I repeat, no other noise at all, apart from this scream.

Someone else is going to capture and upload, though the more who do the better I suppose

Right, bye byes

[DirtyPhoenix]

SS2Dante wrote...

Right I'll jump back on here for a second then go back to bed
~
For those who missed it, I found out something about the child that essentially closes the argument on his existence. If you play the intro scenes again without music, during the cutscene with the shuttle there is zero noise (apart from two Reaper growls). However, the second the shuttle is hit with Harby's laser you hear a high, childlike SCREAM. I repeat, no other noise at all, apart from this scream.

Someone else is going to capture and upload, though the more who do the better I suppose

Right, bye byes

I'm gona check it out right now!

[DJBare]

SS2Dante wrote...

Right I'll jump back on here for a second then go back to bed
~
For those who missed it, I found out something about the child that essentially closes the argument on his existence. If you play the intro scenes again without music, during the cutscene with the shuttle there is zero noise (apart from two Reaper growls). However, the second the shuttle is hit with Harby's laser you hear a high, childlike SCREAM. I repeat, no other noise at all, apart from this scream.

Someone else is going to capture and upload, though the more who do the better I suppose

Right, bye byes

While the sound itself may not exist in physical world "sound pressure"; I'm humming a tune in my head as I type this, people hear voices in their heads, Shepard just witnessed something horrific, by association the mind will add in the scream.

[MadRabbit999]

pirate1802 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Right I'll jump back on here for a second then go back to bed
~
For those who missed it, I found out something about the child that essentially closes the argument on his existence. If you play the intro scenes again without music, during the cutscene with the shuttle there is zero noise (apart from two Reaper growls). However, the second the shuttle is hit with Harby's laser you hear a high, childlike SCREAM. I repeat, no other noise at all, apart from this scream.

Someone else is going to capture and upload, though the more who do the better I suppose

Right, bye byes

I'm gona check it out right now!

Or you could interpret it as a mean to make the death of the child more impactful on the viewer, because let's face it... 10 soldiers dies who cares, but a child die is more heart breaking, and enhanching that moment by making you hear his screams just adds to the chills.

Still no proof to me.

Modifié par MadRabbit999, 25 avril 2012 - 10:42 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Right I'll jump back on here for a second then go back to bed
~
For those who missed it, I found out something about the child that essentially closes the argument on his existence. If you play the intro scenes again without music, during the cutscene with the shuttle there is zero noise (apart from two Reaper growls). However, the second the shuttle is hit with Harby's laser you hear a high, childlike SCREAM. I repeat, no other noise at all, apart from this scream.

Someone else is going to capture and upload, though the more who do the better I suppose

Right, bye byes

I'm gona check it out right now!

Or you could interpret it as a mean to make the death of the child more impactful o nthe viewer, because let's face it... 10 soldiers dies who cares, but a child die is more heart breaking, and enhanching that moment by making you hear his screams just adds to the chills.

Still no proof to me.

Yeah  it is pretty impressive that we hear this single kids scream from within a transport supposedly capable of at least flying in low orbit, meaning it has to be airtight...oh and we dont hear any of the other people on board screaming, I am certain they simply took it all in stride...

The fact that we can hear his scream I see more as an indication he was never there.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 25 avril 2012 - 10:44 .

[Rifneno]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I have repeatedly seen people compare this to an "it was all just a dream" ending/retcon, but I think the huge difference is that indoctrination is such a primary part of the story that it's just wrong to claim it breaks the narrative by coming out of nowhere and invalidating everything. If anything, it's actually the natural progression of the story. Why wouldn't Harbinger attempt to weaken and indoctrinate Shepard?

The big difference IMO is that "it was all a dream" means that it never took place and it meant nothing. "It was indoctrination" means it never took place but it definitely means something.

MrPuschel wrote...

think i made my point clear in a polite and proper way but i guess if i have a opposite opinion about a scene, i guess i have to be a troll.

Polite. LOL. It always makes me laugh when these people come in, compare us to conspiracy nuts or religious zealots, and then cries "but I was polite to you! " when they're treated with the same attitude they showed us.

Go to Hell. Go straight to Hell. Do not pass "Go". Do not collect $200.

[DirtyPhoenix]

LOL I noticed the child scream alright. Not sure what to make of it but my observations:

1. Someone said Its Shep's mind assigning a scream to the event when it isn't there. Well many of shep's close friends died all throughout the series, her mind didn't assign a scream to them.

2. Correct me if I'm wrong but the scream isn't too noticeable at normal music volumes, not to me atleast. Only buy turning the volume to zero did I notice it. SO I'm having a hard time accepting its there to make us feel bad or something. And as someone pointed out, its unrealistic. He takes a direct reaper hit he wouldn't have time to scream. His scream lasts for a while after the shuttle has been blown to pieces. And that scream was pretty loud for a single human kid.

I'm not saying its straight on IT evidence, but its certainly suspicious.. hmm.

If we take the scream literally its hard to believe a shuttle full of adult people, everyone dies silently and a kid screams so loud it puts a reaper to shame.

Modifié par pirate1802, 25 avril 2012 - 11:00 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

The fact that we can hear his scream I see more as an indication he was never there.

How does we hearing his scream indicate the kid's not real?

[RoyalGambit]

At this point, there can't be any doubt the kid isn't real. Whether he's proof of IT or not is a matter of perspective, but he's definitely not real..
He runs through locked doors, acts very unchildlike (everyone's dying/you can't save me), he disappears from the vent, no one can see the child except Shepard, and apparently you can hear his scream from inside the shuttle.

Modifié par RoyalGambit, 25 avril 2012 - 11:05 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

RoyalGambit wrote...

At this point, there can't be any doubt the kid isn't real. Whether he's proof of ITor not is a matter of perspective, but he's definitely not real..
He runs through locked doors, acts very unchildlike (everyone's dying/you can't save me), he disappears from the vent, no one can see the child except Shepard, and apparently you can hear his scream from inside the shuttle.

Not just that, even Shepard behaves wierd. You'd think when the kid disappears into the vent she'd atleast look around abit or tell Anderson about it. But shes like: "oh yeah the kid's gone, guess my work is done here". Is it because Shep's subconscious mind atleast to a certain degree acknowledges that the kid's not real?

[Golferguy758]

pirate1802 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

The fact that we can hear his scream I see more as an indication he was never there.

How does we hearing his scream indicate the kid's not real?

Because there would be no way to hear that scream from the position that Shepard is. He, Shepard, can "hear" the scream because it occurs in his head.

Also, just a general statement here. The way the ship is blown up would leave no time to scream. 

[Domanese]

pirate1802 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

The fact that we can hear his scream I see more as an indication he was never there.

How does we hearing his scream indicate the kid's not real?

It sounds a touch hollow for one but also theres also the issue that the shuttle needs to be airtight in order to be spaceworthy. We shouldn't be able to hear the child dying as a result. Even if we logically could  when the shuttle is damaged there were still dozens of people on that shuttle. They should have been screaming as well.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Hey, any groundbreaking news?

[DirtyPhoenix]

Modifié par pirate1802, 25 avril 2012 - 11:16 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

Golferguy758 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

The fact that we can hear his scream I see more as an indication he was never there.

How does we hearing his scream indicate the kid's not real?

Because there would be no way to hear that scream from the position that Shepard is. He, Shepard, can "hear" the scream because it occurs in his head.

Also, just a general statement here. The way the ship is blown up would leave no time to scream. 

Alright, that makes sense ;D And true. there's no way to take the scream literally, the scream is like when a kid is scared to hell, not like when your roasted by reaper laser.

[MadRabbit999]

Golferguy758 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

The fact that we can hear his scream I see more as an indication he was never there.

How does we hearing his scream indicate the kid's not real?

Because there would be no way to hear that scream from the position that Shepard is. He, Shepard, can "hear" the scream because it occurs in his head.

Also, just a general statement here. The way the ship is blown up would leave no time to scream. 

I cannot beleive how you are reading into something as stupid as this.... this is a basic concept in directing a cut-scene, and probably has nothign to do with giving you clues.

Ever seen Avatar? Toward the end Neytiri witness a "horse" runnign on fire, screaming in agony... she only hears the horse.. not the screams of any one else or the explosions. This is done to give the viewer a focus and greater impact on the scene, it is at the very basic concept of cinematography, it has nothing to do with giving you clues that she is having an halluciantion or some BS like that.

Stop calling people "ttrolls" for not agreeing with you, is getting really tiring, and can get you reported for bullying.

Modifié par MadRabbit999, 25 avril 2012 - 11:18 .

[captainbob8383]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

I cannot beleive how you are reading into something as stupid as this.... this is a basic concept in directing a cut-scene, and probably has nothign to do with giving you clues.

Ever seen Avatar? Toward the end Neytiri witness a "horse" runnign on fire, screaming in agony... she only hears the horse.. not the screams of any one else or the explosions. This is done to give the viewer a focus and greater impact on the scene, it is at the very basic concept of cinematography, it has nothing to do with giving you clues that she is having an halluciantion or some BS like that.

Stop calling people "ttrolls" for not agreeing with you, is getting really tiring, and can get you reported for bullying.

You're actually the one not understanding a "very basic concept of cinematography". There's a huge difference between those scenes. In Avatar she actually hears the horse and the director just focus on it. In ME3 Shep wouldnt be able to hear the kid screaming. The shuttle is locked and far from him, it's physically impossible he heard anybody screaming.
The point is not that he didnt hear the others, the point is that he heard someone. And it's impossible.
That's that simple.

Modifié par captainbob8383, 25 avril 2012 - 11:27 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

The fact that we can hear his scream I see more as an indication he was never there.

How does we hearing his scream indicate the kid's not real?

Because there would be no way to hear that scream from the position that Shepard is. He, Shepard, can "hear" the scream because it occurs in his head.

Also, just a general statement here. The way the ship is blown up would leave no time to scream. 

I cannot beleive how you are reading into something as stupid as this.... this is a basic concept in directing a cut-scene, and probably has nothign to do with giving you clues.

Ever seen Avatar? Toward the end Neytiri witness a "horse" runnign on fire, screaming in agony... she only hears the horse.. not the screams of any one else or the explosions. This is done to give the viewer a focus and greater impact on the scene, it is at the very basic concept of cinematography, it has nothing to do with giving you clues that she is having an halluciantion or some BS like that.

Stop calling people "ttrolls" for not agreeing with you, is getting really tiring, and can get you reported for bullying.

Even when the scream is physically impossible? It continues after the shuttle has been blown to pieces you'd expect the kid to be a pile of ash and stop screaming.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Isn't the most baffling aspect how apparently almost nobody heard the scream when playing? Why use a sound you can ONLY hear with music off.

btw, did someone upload it on youtube yet?

Modifié par Earthborn_Shepard, 25 avril 2012 - 11:29 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

The fact that we can hear his scream I see more as an indication he was never there.

How does we hearing his scream indicate the kid's not real?

Because there would be no way to hear that scream from the position that Shepard is. He, Shepard, can "hear" the scream because it occurs in his head.

Also, just a general statement here. The way the ship is blown up would leave no time to scream. 

I cannot beleive how you are reading into something as stupid as this.... this is a basic concept in directing a cut-scene, and probably has nothign to do with giving you clues.

Ever seen Avatar? Toward the end Neytiri witness a "horse" runnign on fire, screaming in agony... she only hears the horse.. not the screams of any one else or the explosions. This is done to give the viewer a focus and greater impact on the scene, it is at the very basic concept of cinematography, it has nothing to do with giving you clues that she is having an halluciantion or some BS like that.

Stop calling people "ttrolls" for not agreeing with you, is getting really tiring, and can get you reported for bullying.

The difference here is that hearing anything form that shuttle should be impossible, it is not about focus it is about plain impossibility.

The shuttle the kid enters is capable of traveling into space, aka it is airtight. The shuttle itself will be quite dampening on any sound coming out of it. Secondly the shuttle has no windows and even if it had what blows it up comes from behind them aka they could not see it coming and with the explosion completely engulfing the shuttle in under second there is no time for anyone aboard to feel much pain, much less scream. Finally the noise of the explosions should by all logical conclusions drown out any sound coming from within.