Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory
#43976
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 10:47
#43977
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 10:48
this explains why Harby wanted Shep alive...
#43978
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 10:52
#43979
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 10:52
But whatever, it's the first time I try to comment here cause every time I had something I could say I would go to the next page and find it already commented. I'm tired of browsing and reading this time, so I might be repeating something someone already mentioned.
Anyway, some pages ago you were talking about Anderson at the panel without a gun and TIM getting some gun from him few moments later. And it came to my mind... How come TIM, as smart as he is, and apparently in control of boht Anderson and you, and actually ABLE to make you shoot him, walks into your ****ing line of fire to grab a weapon, makes his only cover kneel and exposes a clear shot instead of making you ****ing shoot again? Isn't it utterly retarded?
Bad writing of course, Bioware is lazy.
Oh and apologies for any mistake I might make while writing, my english is getting rusty...
#43980
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 10:53
suprarj wrote...
the indoctrination theory is fake, but it's nice to see that so many bright minds are being put to good use
#43981
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 10:53
suprarj wrote...
the indoctrination theory is fake, but it's nice to see that so many bright minds are being put to good use
Oh, well its good that someone finally came in after 1760 pages to offer irrefutable evidence we were wrong. I feel so foolish now.
Modifié par byne, 25 avril 2012 - 10:54 .
#43982
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 10:54
Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
this explains why Harby wanted Shep alive...
Wha..? HOLY **** woman, what are you linking here?
#43983
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 10:55
#43984
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 10:55
suprarj wrote...
the indoctrination theory is fake, but it's nice to see that so many bright minds are being put to good use
can you elaborate on why........?
#43985
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 10:59
Shame on you!
#43986
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:00
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
llbountyhunter wrote...
heres how I would score them.
1. liara/jack
2. tali
3. Ashley
4. miranda
5. diana allers
lol.. is that based off "Hotness" because jack is the worst looking. shes completely based off the sterotypical perception of butch lesbians.
WinterCrow wrote...
C'mon guys. You're so tense over the
whole IT than you'd rather feed a troll than debate something a fellow
IT believer just posted.
Shame on you!
#43987
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:07
#43988
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:08
Just to make it clear, Grayson was in direct contact with reaper tech, very much in contact since cerburus poured it down his throat, it's nanotechnology that allows the reapers a connection to the victim, you would hear Grayson mention how he could hear whispers in his head,Grayson knew in the early stages those whispers were not his own because he knew he'd been indoctrinated by cerburus, Shepard has no such knowledge, so any whispers s/he hears are taken as a dream or imagination.llbountyhunter wrote...
well grayson was never in direct contact with a reaper, or reaper artifact like shepard, so obviously their expeiences would differ.... not to mention harbinger personal thing with shepard (who, for some reason, simply flies away at the end)
#43989
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:11
http://www.masseffec...ts--id-974.html
#43990
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:27
Corrected.llbountyhunter wrote...
heres how I would score them.
1. liara/jack
2. tali
3. Traynor
4. Ashley
5. Kelly
6. Sha'ira
7. miranda
50. Harbinger
98. Regards the works of the Enkindlers in Despair
99. diana allers
Modifié par Simon_Says, 25 avril 2012 - 11:28 .
#43991
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:28
lex0r11 wrote...
This is mere speculation, but I'd say whomever is responsible for Jack's character design REALLY put some passion into her.
#43992
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:31
DJBare wrote...
Just to make it clear, Grayson was in direct contact with reaper tech, very much in contact since cerburus poured it down his throat, it's nanotechnology that allows the reapers a connection to the victim, you would hear Grayson mention how he could hear whispers in his head,Grayson knew in the early stages those whispers were not his own because he knew he'd been indoctrinated by cerburus, Shepard has no such knowledge, so any whispers s/he hears are taken as a dream or imagination.llbountyhunter wrote...
well grayson was never in direct contact with a reaper, or reaper artifact like shepard, so obviously their expeiences would differ.... not to mention harbinger personal thing with shepard (who, for some reason, simply flies away at the end)
By Mass Effect 3, Shepard has heard many accounts of Reaper indoctrination manifesting itself as whispers or voices. He would be well aware of what was going on if he suddenly started hearing voices while conscious.
#43993
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:35
Just because one can recognize an attempt at manipulation doesn't mean one is equipped to fight it off.CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
By Mass Effect 3, Shepard has heard many accounts of Reaper indoctrination manifesting itself as whispers or voices. He would be well aware of what was going on if he suddenly started hearing voices while conscious.
Sad but true.
Modifié par Simon_Says, 25 avril 2012 - 11:35 .
#43994
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:36
Auralius Carolus wrote...
This is mere speculation, but I'd say whomever is responsible for Jack's character design REALLY put some passion into her.
With all the work they put into giving Jack a new model for ME3 its a damn shame we only really see her on one mission.
She should've been a squadmate.
Her uniform even has those little lights on it for where weapons can be holstered, yet we never see her with a weapon.
#43995
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:38
Commander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat. Now you can continue to build that legend through further gameplay and downloadable content.byne wrote...
Her uniform even has those little lights on it for where weapons can be holstered, yet we never see her with a weapon.
Modifié par Simon_Says, 25 avril 2012 - 11:40 .
#43996
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:39
llbountyhunter wrote...
Tirian Thorn wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
[*]
[*]"I feel like death, but I'm moving"
I'm not totally discounting this, but have you ever been so sore that you didn't want to move but had to?
First time I ever went snowboarding I couldn't move for 2 days without pain.
I have, actually. I used to work out at a gym with a personal trainer, and I asked him to show me how to do pyramid sets. Pyramid sets are where you do sets of reps in quick succession that start with many reps at a low weight, progress to fewer reps with high weight, and then progress back down to many reps at low weight. You have very short breaks in between each set.
The next day, I was semi-sore, but the day after, good lord, my shins (I did calf raises) burned so bad that I was uncontrollably spouting expletives every time I had to stand up, and I could literally NOT walk without a severe limp. It was horrible! Come to think of it, I must have looked somewhat like Shepard did during the end sequence, lumbering about.
#43997
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:40
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Just to make it clear, Grayson was in direct contact with reaper tech, very much in contact since cerburus poured it down his throat, it's nanotechnology that allows the reapers a connection to the victim, you would hear Grayson mention how he could hear whispers in his head,Grayson knew in the early stages those whispers were not his own because he knew he'd been indoctrinated by cerburus, Shepard has no such knowledge, so any whispers s/he hears are taken as a dream or imagination.llbountyhunter wrote...
well grayson was never in direct contact with a reaper, or reaper artifact like shepard, so obviously their expeiences would differ.... not to mention harbinger personal thing with shepard (who, for some reason, simply flies away at the end)
By Mass Effect 3, Shepard has heard many accounts of Reaper indoctrination manifesting itself as whispers or voices. He would be well aware of what was going on if he suddenly started hearing voices while conscious.
That's quite an assumption. If you were slowly going insane and started seeing and/or hearing people that weren't there, would you really know that your brain was creating people who didn't exist?
If indoctrination is as slow and subtle as it is often described, then the initial thoughts/ideas/whispers wouldn't be a "sudden" thing. They would emanate little by little, maybe at first as something that is passed off as if the subject mistakenly heard a fleeting sound, and then increased very slowly until the subject couldn't define real from unreal.
Modifié par ExtendedCut, 25 avril 2012 - 11:42 .
#43998
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:41
DJBare wrote...
Just to make it clear, Grayson was in direct contact with reaper tech, very much in contact since cerburus poured it down his throat, it's nanotechnology that allows the reapers a connection to the victim, you would hear Grayson mention how he could hear whispers in his head,Grayson knew in the early stages those whispers were not his own because he knew he'd been indoctrinated by cerburus, Shepard has no such knowledge, so any whispers s/he hears are taken as a dream or imagination.llbountyhunter wrote...
well grayson was never in direct contact with a reaper, or reaper artifact like shepard, so obviously their expeiences would differ.... not to mention harbinger personal thing with shepard (who, for some reason, simply flies away at the end)
I meant more like reaper artifacts which might create different results
#43999
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:48
#44000
Posté 25 avril 2012 - 11:52
suprarj wrote...
the indoctrination theory is fake, but it's nice to see that so many bright minds are being put to good use

Alright everyone pack it up. We're done here. It was a good run, but this irrefutable evidence just sealed the deal.




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