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Auralius Carolus

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Big G13 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...



this explains why Harby wanted Shep alive...

Delightfully Disturbing.:blink:


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Gamble said on his twitter that he doesn't think that the Red ending is the best ending. I hope he's a fan of the Reapers, otherwise I'm pissed if this implies that the IT is untrue.

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liggy002 wrote...

Gamble said on his twitter that he doesn't think that the Red ending is the best ending. I hope he's a fan of the Reapers, otherwise I'm pissed if this implies that the IT is untrue.

Any declaration of opinion without argument to support it is suspect. Hold the line.

Also there are people out there that think the synthesis ending is the best, because, well... singularitan rapture of the nerds and all that.

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Simon_Says wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Gamble said on his twitter that he doesn't think that the Red ending is the best ending. I hope he's a fan of the Reapers, otherwise I'm pissed if this implies that the IT is untrue.

Any declaration of opinion without argument to support it is suspect.

Hold the line.


Besides. The twitters are totally unreliable. Especially with the flip flopping going on. Until we get actual in game confirmation or denial then I'm taking every twitter message with a grain of salt.

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In these critical times, and this amount of uncertainty, I want you all to remember that we fought the good fight, and if the spoils of this battle become everything we hope than so much the better, but if they do not, if they are less than greatness and only work to stain the time and energy we put into this trilogy, I want you all to remember
... everything burns ...

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Sero303 wrote...

In these critical times, and this amount of uncertainty, I want you all to remember that we fought the good fight, and if the spoils of this battle become everything we hope than so much the better, but if they do not, if they are less than greatness and only work to stain the time and energy we put into this trilogy, I want you all to remember
... everything burns ...


Somebody put that on a demotivational poster, stat!

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Sero303 wrote...

... everything burns ...


>Everything burns
>entire previous page was about how sexy the Reapers are

>Implications.... unpleasant.

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Reposting this from last night, found on another thread. It's worth a listen, very calming.

Reignite - Mass Effect/Shepard Tribute

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Reposting this from last night, found on another thread. It's worth a listen, very calming.

Reignite - Mass Effect/Shepard Tribute



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Glad to see this still alive! Hold the line!

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Big Bad wrote...

Sero303 wrote...

In these critical times, and this amount of uncertainty, I want you all to remember that we fought the good fight, and if the spoils of this battle become everything we hope than so much the better, but if they do not, if they are less than greatness and only work to stain the time and energy we put into this trilogy, I want you all to remember
... everything burns ...


Somebody put that on a demotivational poster, stat!



I'll get on it tomorrow, i swear it by the motivational creed.

And before i go to bed, know this:

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Reposting this from last night, found on another thread. It's worth a listen, very calming.

Reignite - Mass Effect/Shepard Tribute


Beautiful song!

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

dude I'm in a class with 20 male IT nerds, there's nothing I haven't heard
so no
though Ashley is hotter


Helllllllllll no. Miranda > Ashley by leaps and bounds. Though both of them have such a mental capacity that I think it would be technically legal to use them for lab experiments instead of rats. Not very bright, either one of them. Like a 4 watt lightbulb painted black.
Also, ME1 or ME3 Ashley? ME3 Ashley wasn't bad. Not in Miranda's league, but not bad. ME1 Ashley I didn't care for in the least.

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I always thought Liara was super-hot, but then the back of her neck kinda weirded me out...


Most of Liara weirded me out. For an alien, she's way too human. Okay I'm sure it's asari in general, but Liara is the only one we see... more of, which is why I'm saying Liara in particular I guess. I mean it was already weird how the body structure was almost exactly human female except for the hair, but when you see her undressed you can see the muscle and bone structure is pretty much exactly the same too. Like the way her shoulders move.

To be honest I was always kind of hoping there'd be an explanation for why so many species are humanoid. Like that the Reapers or the Protheans genetically engineered different species. But I could at least believe that "stands upright, two legs, two arms" was just kind of standard evolution for intelligent species. But damn the asari have so much in common with humans physically. Too much, IMO, to be random chance. Kind of disappointed there didn't turn out to be more to it.

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With all the work they put into giving Jack a new model for ME3 its a damn shame we only really see her on one mission.

She should've been a squadmate.

Her uniform even has those little lights on it for where weapons can be holstered, yet we never see her with a weapon.


Jack is a weapon.

I agree though, her new model and attitude is great. I was pleasantly shocked with how well she turned out. TBH I had always thought it was a bad idea to cut her loose from Purgatory. What Cerberus did to her was unforgivable and it wasn't her fault she became what she became... but she did become it and it didn't seem too hot an idea to unleash her. Happy I was wrong.

Oh Christ, Golferguy is breaking out the Phoenix Wright pictures again. Quick, what's the MIRV launch codes?!

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Rifneno wrote...

Jack is a weapon.

I agree though, her new model and attitude is great. I was pleasantly shocked with how well she turned out. TBH I had always thought it was a bad idea to cut her loose from Purgatory. What Cerberus did to her was unforgivable and it wasn't her fault she became what she became... but she did become it and it didn't seem too hot an idea to unleash her. Happy I was wrong.


I never really understood that argument.

If anything, Zaeed is more of a danger than Jack is. We never once saw Jack blow up a building full of civilians.

But no one ever complains about Zaeed.

They seem too infatuated with his stereotypical grizzled merc veteran routine to care.

Honestly, if Jacob and Miranda werent on board, Zaeed would be my least favorite crewmember in ME2.

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Jack is a weapon.

I agree though, her new model and attitude is great. I was pleasantly shocked with how well she turned out. TBH I had always thought it was a bad idea to cut her loose from Purgatory. What Cerberus did to her was unforgivable and it wasn't her fault she became what she became... but she did become it and it didn't seem too hot an idea to unleash her. Happy I was wrong.


I never really understood that argument.

If anything, Zaeed is more of a danger than Jack is. We never once saw Jack blow up a building full of civilians.

But no one ever complains about Zaeed.

They seem too infatuated with his stereotypical grizzled merc veteran routine to care.

Honestly, if Jacob and Miranda werent on board, Zaeed would be my least favorite crewmember in ME2.

agreed

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Rifneno wrote...

Most of Liara weirded me out. For an alien, she's way too human. Okay I'm sure it's asari in general, but Liara is the only one we see... more of, which is why I'm saying Liara in particular I guess. I mean it was already weird how the body structure was almost exactly human female except for the hair, but when you see her undressed you can see the muscle and bone structure is pretty much exactly the same too. Like the way her shoulders move.

To be honest I was always kind of hoping there'd be an explanation for why so many species are humanoid. Like that the Reapers or the Protheans genetically engineered different species. But I could at least believe that "stands upright, two legs, two arms" was just kind of standard evolution for intelligent species. But damn the asari have so much in common with humans physically. Too much, IMO, to be random chance. Kind of disappointed there didn't turn out to be more to it.


Actually, somem scientists somewhere did some simulations of other species evolving to the point we are at, and most of them DO end up standing upright with two arms and two legs. I'd have links and better details, but my brother told me this. Obvious exceptions would be things like, well, jellyfish and similar, just like the hanar.

The species I remember specifically was a type or raptors, not sure if it was velociraptors or a different one, but they would have reached where we are thousands, more like millions of years ago, and would have a body shape similar to all the ME species. So, yeah, Mass Effect is even realistic when it comes to that; totally surprised me Posted Image

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Took a break from the IT stuff and made a trailer for Mass effect 3.

Let me know what you guys think!



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byne wrote...

I never really understood that argument.

If anything, Zaeed is more of a danger than Jack is. We never once saw Jack blow up a building full of civilians.

But no one ever complains about Zaeed.

They seem too infatuated with his stereotypical grizzled merc veteran routine to care.

Honestly, if Jacob and Miranda werent on board, Zaeed would be my least favorite crewmember in ME2.


Oh I have nothing but disgust for Zaeed, don't get me wrong. At the same time, I don't think Zaeed is likely to repeat that stunt. I think he only went psycho because he wanted at Vido Santiago (who I was disappointed not to see in ME3 BTW). That doesn't make him any less of a murdering scumbag but pragmatically I don't see him as as big a threat to civilians as Jack. Also, he was already a free man, Shepard wasn't unleashing him.

I can't really recall most of Jack's exploits but I'm fairly certain she didn't earn her reputation as the scariest thing in the scariest prison in the Milky Way by only killing people who had done her wrong or were a direct threat.

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Jack is a weapon.

I agree though, her new model and attitude is great. I was pleasantly shocked with how well she turned out. TBH I had always thought it was a bad idea to cut her loose from Purgatory. What Cerberus did to her was unforgivable and it wasn't her fault she became what she became... but she did become it and it didn't seem too hot an idea to unleash her. Happy I was wrong.


I never really understood that argument.

If anything, Zaeed is more of a danger than Jack is. We never once saw Jack blow up a building full of civilians.

But no one ever complains about Zaeed.

They seem too infatuated with his stereotypical grizzled merc veteran routine to care.

Honestly, if Jacob and Miranda werent on board, Zaeed would be my least favorite crewmember in ME2.


Really? He's one of my favourite squadmates. He's not as bad as everyone says, he's just Renegade Shep, get the job done, no matter the cost. I play mostly Paragon, but I agreed with him there. The workers were being used as slave labour, and it put and end to that, as well as killing the head of the Blue Suns, who would have been perfectly happy to do the same stuff anywhere else. Needed to be done, the way I see it.

As Shepard, I'd trust Zaeed way before I'd trust Jack or Grunt. Or Miranda. I don't have anything against those three, but at the time I wouldn't have trusted them.

EDIT: I also shot Kolyat's target, that racist Turian. I'm ALWAYS Renegade with politicians, except Anderson Posted Image

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Hey, while we're ripping on ME2 characters, I feel obligated to bring up this conversation that's omgwtf in hindsight: Jacob starts crap with Thane because "I'm loyal, he's just a mercenary". Jacob gave Thane **** about loyalty.

I wish we had space magic, because I want to replace Jacob's white blood cells with rabid pirahnas.

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BleedingUranium wrote...


As Shepard, I'd trust Zaeed way before I'd trust Jack or Grunt. Or Miranda. I don't have anything against those three, but at the time I wouldn't have trusted them.


Grunt is my little tank baby though!

I'd trust Grunt with my life. He borders on hero-worship of Shepard. Its adorable.

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byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...


As Shepard, I'd trust Zaeed way before I'd trust Jack or Grunt. Or Miranda. I don't have anything against those three, but at the time I wouldn't have trusted them.


Grunt is my little tank baby though!

I'd trust Grunt with my life. He borders on hero-worship of Shepard. Its adorable.


I meant when Shep first met him, after that, I would trust him too. Didn't mean to sound like I didn't like him, Grunt's awesome :)

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BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...


As Shepard, I'd trust Zaeed way before I'd trust Jack or Grunt. Or Miranda. I don't have anything against those three, but at the time I wouldn't have trusted them.


Grunt is my little tank baby though!

I'd trust Grunt with my life. He borders on hero-worship of Shepard. Its adorable.


I meant when Shep first met him, after that, I would trust him too. Didn't mean to sound like I didn't like him, Grunt's awesome :)


Well, Shepard just doesnt have good luck waking people from stasis.

Grunt pinned her to the wall, Javik threw her like 20 feet with biotics, and Jack destroyed an entire space station.

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I finished a clear playthrough of ME3 some time ago and noticed that when I chose Destroy and no one came out of the Normandy, I got to see my squadmates' corpses before entering the beam. That's not the case when anyone gets out of the ship.

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I think to a certain extent all your squadmates were whitewashed a bit in the transition from ME2 to ME3, to accommodate the different feel of the respective games.

Jack's character seems to lack psychological consistency. In her loyalty mission on Pragia she describes being explicitly conditioned with narcotics to kill, describing a warm feeling. In other conversations, Jack's violent tendencies are far more indicative of her being abused. She chooses the hold because it's safe, she approaches sex casually to avoid intimacy, and she claims that what fascinates her about killing is simply that her odds of survival go up.
What I smell in Jack's writing is two separate conceptions; we have the Jack described on the Purgatory, who even the worst of the worst is afraid of, whose opioid receptors light up in response to bloodshed.
Then we have the vulnerable Jack, who was tortured as a child and is consequentially impulsive, distrustful, paranoid, and very averse to authority.
Grunt is a far better example of a personality conditioned to kill; and appropriately, he ends up finding purpose the krogan's heavily tribal society. If killing is rewarding, you submit to the authority that lets you do it consistently.
If you whitewash some of the statements from the Purgatory and the part about conditioning from Pragia you get the kind of Jack who could be rehabilitated and find purpose in ME3.