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[balance5050]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I took a break from this thread for a couple of weeks, and it's grown 500+ pages lol..

Just thought I'd chime in and shout "INDOCTRINATION FTW!"

Youtube the 2nd dream, Shepard is not sleeping and is IN FACT standing up with a datapad in his/her hand... Dream 2 is a hallucination, not a dream.

Looks to me like Shepard was sitting in bed and dozzed off. 

He was sitting at his desk.

[Tirian Thorn]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...
Youtube the 2nd dream, Shepard is not sleeping and is IN FACT standing up with a datapad in his/her hand... Dream 2 is a hallucination, not a dream.

Another weird thing about the dreams.. why would the star child sometimes be laughing/look menacing (in the 3rd dream)? If it was just a nightmare induced by feelings of guilt, wouldn't Shep just see the child die again and again? But in the 3rd dream, at the ending the kid looks really - satisfied.. in an evil way...

That kid is evil I tells ya.  EEEEEVIIILLL. 
Grandpa, you said that about all Shepards dreams.
I just want attention. 

    Take this object, but beware, it carries a terrible curse. 

[balance5050]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Alright, this has to be said.

BioWare is doing everything possible to make the ending seem literal while NEVER outright denying the IT. They mentioned it once and they haven't mentioned it again. Here they are giving us all these little hints that literal ending is the way to go.

Well, that kinda spoils the EC doesn't it?

I think it's clear what's happening here. They're trying to get people to avoid IT at all costs, and it's working in a lot of cases.

Yep, they wanted a good twist and we pretty much ruined it.

I just wish there was a way we could be "in on it", you know?

[Tirian Thorn]

balance5050 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I took a break from this thread for a couple of weeks, and it's grown 500+ pages lol..

Just thought I'd chime in and shout "INDOCTRINATION FTW!"

Youtube the 2nd dream, Shepard is not sleeping and is IN FACT standing up with a datapad in his/her hand... Dream 2 is a hallucination, not a dream.

Looks to me like Shepard was sitting in bed and dozzed off. 

He was sitting at his desk.

Just to 2:02  and you can see the wine glass on the table in front of him as he sits up to his left.  If he were at his desk the wine glass would be to his right. 

[Tirian Thorn]

balance5050 wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Alright, this has to be said.

BioWare is doing everything possible to make the ending seem literal while NEVER outright denying the IT. They mentioned it once and they haven't mentioned it again. Here they are giving us all these little hints that literal ending is the way to go.

Well, that kinda spoils the EC doesn't it?

I think it's clear what's happening here. They're trying to get people to avoid IT at all costs, and it's working in a lot of cases.

Yep, they wanted a good twist and we pretty much ruined it.

I just wish there was a way we could be "in on it", you know?

I agree and disagree.  How do you like that?

I'd love to know that IT is true, but it would also spoil EC if it were. 

Even though I believe IT, I want to be surprised when EC comes out. 

[balance5050]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I took a break from this thread for a couple of weeks, and it's grown 500+ pages lol..

Just thought I'd chime in and shout "INDOCTRINATION FTW!"

Youtube the 2nd dream, Shepard is not sleeping and is IN FACT standing up with a datapad in his/her hand... Dream 2 is a hallucination, not a dream.

Looks to me like Shepard was sitting in bed and dozzed off. 

He was sitting at his desk.

Just to 2:02  and you can see the wine glass on the table in front of him as he sits up to his left.  If he were at his desk the wine glass would be to his right. 

My fault, you're right. Weird how there was nothing on that data pad though.

[Tirian Thorn]

balance5050 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I took a break from this thread for a couple of weeks, and it's grown 500+ pages lol..

Just thought I'd chime in and shout "INDOCTRINATION FTW!"

Youtube the 2nd dream, Shepard is not sleeping and is IN FACT standing up with a datapad in his/her hand... Dream 2 is a hallucination, not a dream.

Looks to me like Shepard was sitting in bed and dozzed off. 

He was sitting at his desk.

Just to 2:02  and you can see the wine glass on the table in front of him as he sits up to his left.  If he were at his desk the wine glass would be to his right. 

My fault, you're right. Weird how there was nothing on that data pad though.

It probably has an auto shut off like a Kindle. 

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Hey, something a little different.

Has anyone of you ever played another game that had a really unsatisfying ending?

The only one I can think of is Dreamfall.. but that wasn't as bad because the ending made sense and fit into the universe, it just was a real downer and let some questions open

[balance5050]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

It probably has an auto shut off like a Kindle. 

Gotcha.

[MaximizedAction]

I love this thread. It keeps my hopes up, not for this ending, not for a new ending, but for a consistent ending that makes sense.

[byne]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Hey, something a little different.

Has anyone of you ever played another game that had a really unsatisfying ending?

The only one I can think of is Dreamfall.. but that wasn't as bad because the ending made sense and fit into the universe, it just was a real downer and let some questions open

KotOR 2 had a pretty unsatisfying ending.

Thats mostly because it wasnt even close to finished when they were forced to release it though.

[Simon_Says]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Hey, something a little different.

Has anyone of you ever played another game that had a really unsatisfying ending?

The only one I can think of is Dreamfall.. but that wasn't as bad because the ending made sense and fit into the universe, it just was a real downer and let some questions open

Deus Ex invisible War.
Four choices. All of them sucked hard. Didn't help that the game itself sucked hard.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 26 avril 2012 - 06:39 .

[Vahilor]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Hey, something a little different.

Has anyone of you ever played another game that had a really unsatisfying ending?

The only one I can think of is Dreamfall.. but that wasn't as bad because the ending made sense and fit into the universe, it just was a real downer and let some questions open

I hade 1 or 2 games I din't really like the endings, but not cause they were totaly unfitting or out of place.. only cause I dind't like how the storys ended..
ANd I had games were I liked the endings pretty much, even they were pretty sad.
But I must admit, I was never so deep invested in a character like Shep.

Modifié par Vahilor, 26 avril 2012 - 06:39 .

[MaximizedAction]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Hey, something a little different.

Has anyone of you ever played another game that had a really unsatisfying ending?

The only one I can think of is Dreamfall.. but that wasn't as bad because the ending made sense and fit into the universe, it just was a real downer and let some questions open

Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy) was a REAL downer. Made me damn near depressive.

As @byne mentioned, Kotor 2 was disappointing. (But it wasn't made by Bioware, so I try not to compare it to ME3).

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 26 avril 2012 - 06:40 .

[llbountyhunter]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Hey, something a little different.

Has anyone of you ever played another game that had a really unsatisfying ending?

The only one I can think of is Dreamfall.. but that wasn't as bad because the ending made sense and fit into the universe, it just was a real downer and let some questions open

i had a long list, but mass effect makes all those other endings look good.


also its usually not just the ending that sucks- its almoat always the whole game as well, and in mass effect its just such a HUGE  contrast  that only enhances the terriblness of the ending.

[Tirian Thorn]

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Hey, something a little different.

Has anyone of you ever played another game that had a really unsatisfying ending?

The only one I can think of is Dreamfall.. but that wasn't as bad because the ending made sense and fit into the universe, it just was a real downer and let some questions open

KotOR 2 had a pretty unsatisfying ending.

Thats mostly because it wasnt even close to finished when they were forced to release it though.

With KOTOR 2 I felt let down as well.  The ending explanation never really satisfied me, especially about the part about the Exile withdrawing from the force, etc.  I guess, I didn't get too upset because I felt like a 3rd KOTOR was a certainty. 

So I really didn't get closure on KOTOR until I read the story portion of The Old Republic and the fate of the Exile and Revan.  So several years later, I have closure I guess. 

[waldstr18]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Hey, something a little different.

Has anyone of you ever played another game that had a really unsatisfying ending?

The only one I can think of is Dreamfall.. but that wasn't as bad because the ending made sense and fit into the universe, it just was a real downer and let some questions open

bioforge, dark sun shattered lands, metroid prime 1-3, dungeon siege, most of the older nintendo games "congratulations! thanks for playing!" no wonder i have no problem accepting the endings, i have been used to far worse.

oh, best ending by far: conker's bad fur day (n64)

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Btw, a bit of shameless Dreamfall-promoting:

very pretty piece of music...

just don't listen all the vid.. there is a huge piece of silence after the piano bit and then a freaky noise, so you might want to close it when the silence starts.

[llbountyhunter]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Alright, this has to be said.

BioWare is doing everything possible to make the ending seem literal while NEVER outright denying the IT. They mentioned it once and they haven't mentioned it again. Here they are giving us all these little hints that literal ending is the way to go.

Well, that kinda spoils the EC doesn't it?

I think it's clear what's happening here. They're trying to get people to avoid IT at all costs, and it's working in a lot of cases.

Yep, they wanted a good twist and we pretty much ruined it.

I just wish there was a way we could be "in on it", you know?

I agree and disagree.  How do you like that?

I'd love to know that IT is true, but it would also spoil EC if it were. 

Even though I believe IT, I want to be surprised when EC comes out. 

I think they may have two suprises- one that wrre supposed to dissect  (IT)  ... "speculation for everyone!"

and one we arent going to see coming in the EC

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 26 avril 2012 - 06:51 .

[lex0r11]

waldstr18 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Hey, something a little different.

Has anyone of you ever played another game that had a really unsatisfying ending?

The only one I can think of is Dreamfall.. but that wasn't as bad because the ending made sense and fit into the universe, it just was a real downer and let some questions open

bioforge, dark sun shattered lands, metroid prime 1-3, dungeon siege, most of the older nintendo games "congratulations! thanks for playing!" no wonder i have no problem accepting the endings, i have been used to far worse.

oh, best ending by far: conker's bad fur day (n64)

youtu.be/0w5neFPat1w

Awesome childhood.

[waldstr18]

lex0r11 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Hey, something a little different.

Has anyone of you ever played another game that had a really unsatisfying ending?

The only one I can think of is Dreamfall.. but that wasn't as bad because the ending made sense and fit into the universe, it just was a real downer and let some questions open

bioforge, dark sun shattered lands, metroid prime 1-3, dungeon siege, most of the older nintendo games "congratulations! thanks for playing!" no wonder i have no problem accepting the endings, i have been used to far worse.

oh, best ending by far: conker's bad fur day (n64)

youtu.be/0w5neFPat1w

Awesome childhood.

rare said they fixed the "bug" in the ending. i was so looking forward to that on the xbox version. and? and? and? nothing! so if bioware doesnt fix anything at all... been there as well.

[paxxton]

However unpleasant, it's much better to have a cliffhanger ending and hope for the next full game (several hours of next-generation high-quality gameplay/cinematics) than a complete ending (a few additional minutes of gameplay/cutscenes) with no need for a continuation.

[Arian Dynas]

[quote]balance5050 wrote...

[quote]IronSabbath88 wrote...

Alright, this has to be said.

BioWare is doing everything possible to make the ending seem literal while NEVER outright denying the IT. They mentioned it once and they haven't mentioned it again. Here they are giving us all these little hints that literal ending is the way to go.

Well, that kinda spoils the EC doesn't it?

I think it's clear what's happening here. They're trying to get people to avoid IT at all costs, and it's working in a lot of cases.[/quote]

Yep, they wanted a good twist and we pretty much ruined it.

I just wish there was a way we could be "in on it", you know?

[/quote]

They won't change now, even if IDT is right. Too much effort, too many resources, and they arent that petty.

Morever, we don't know, IDT is a THEORY, meaning that it's still a twist, and still not ruined. When the EC comes out and confirms IDT, then we'll get the same rush of accomplishment at having guessed it as we would if it were a surprise.

[quote]Rifneno wrote...
[quote]Arian Dynas wrote...

Being a doubting Thomas about IT, but not for any real reason, just that sense of looming dread. Might be the headache/depression talking. Taking happy pills.[/quote]

You mean literally? Ack. I know what you mean... I forget one damn dose of my SNRIs and the next day I'm almost a tenth as bad as the average Twilight fan. Hope they kick back in for you soon.
[/quote]

Well, not actual happy pills, I am depressed, but at the moment my excuse is that it's Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD, how apropos) so I pop alot of vitamin D. Also, the major thing making me doubt IDT right now is Gamble's twitter. I can rationalize it away, but could someone ask him if his statement was merely taking the stuff from the game, and not inside knowledge?



[quote]Rifneno wrote...

[quote]Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Yeah Bioware, nice to tell us that the Control ending is the bad one. I guess you could have shown that in the game.. but I guess I'm not intellectual enough to understand your artistic integrity.[/quote]

Sure you are. You're here with us, pro-IT. You understood it. [/quote]

Indeed



[quote]MadRabbit999 wrote...

[quote]Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Ok guys, school starts in 10 minutes so it's goodbye for now[/quote]

School? Out of curiosity.. how many people who beleive in the IT are above 15?

It's a serious question, no trolling.


[/quote]

I'm 19, going on 20, Anthropology student.


[quote]DJBare wrote...

[quote]MadRabbit999 wrote...

[quote]Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Ok guys, school starts in 10 minutes so it's goodbye for now[/quote]

School? Out of curiosity.. how many people who beleive in the IT are above 15?

It's a serious question, no trolling.


[/quote]
*Raises hand* 52, but I guess you can call it senile delusion.

[/quote]

Ah, I apologize for one of my earlier assumptions. You do have the right to use the Sean Connery avatar.



[quote]Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

and since it's getting so cozy in here right now, how about country and real first name?

For me: Germany (yeah most of you already know that)
Ines [/quote]

America, Gavyn.

Yes I have a ****ing weird name. don't give me a hard time.



[quote]MadRabbit999 wrote...

[quote]Rifneno wrote...

[quote]MadRabbit999 wrote...

School? Out of curiosity.. how many people who beleive in the IT are above 15?

It's a serious question, no trolling.
[/quote]

Bull****. If you didn't mean it as "let's prove the other side is ****** kids" you wouldn't have asked for IT belief status along with age.
[/quote]

I was actually hoping you would pop up... you have been incredibly aggressive with anything and anyone either disputing IT, or trying to create a debate, and have now proved my point. Glad to see you still live up your childish standards, but I am warning you, keep this aggressive behaviour and you could be reported for bullying and harassment, the boards are for discussions, not your personal playground.

But thanks for clearing that up (to the rest that answered about their age range).

[/quote]

Stop baiting him.

You haven't been any better with your clear consescension, mudslinging (childish? surely you can do better than THAT.) and general attitude.

I won't deny you've attempted politeness, and at least try to keep your arguments coherent, but despite claiming to take the moral high road, you have been just as agressive as Rifneno.

No, this forum is NOT his personal playground, neither is it yours, for you to say what you want.

spotless had the right of it quite well, this is (since your crowd seems so insistent in compating us to religious fanatics) the IDT church, and quite simply, you do not waltz into a church, calling the parishonoers idiots for their beleifs and try to convert them, if you want to be heard, you attend Sunday school and become that obnoxious kid in the back row the teacher hates because you ask the hard questions.

...

I think I lost control of that metaphor.



You can disagree, in fact we encourage it. But respect us and we shall respect you.

[lex0r11]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

and since it's getting so cozy in here right now, how about country and real first name?

For me: Germany (yeah most of you already know that)
Ines

America, Gavyn.

Yes I have a ****ing weird name. don't give me a hard time.

Go ahead, guess my first name!

[NotAnotherDisplayName]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Hey, something a little different.

Has anyone of you ever played another game that had a really unsatisfying ending?

The only one I can think of is Dreamfall.. but that wasn't as bad because the ending made sense and fit into the universe, it just was a real downer and let some questions open

KotOR 2 had a pretty unsatisfying ending.

Thats mostly because it wasnt even close to finished when they were forced to release it though.

With KOTOR 2 I felt let down as well.  The ending explanation never really satisfied me, especially about the part about the Exile withdrawing from the force, etc.  I guess, I didn't get too upset because I felt like a 3rd KOTOR was a certainty. 

So I really didn't get closure on KOTOR until I read the story portion of The Old Republic and the fate of the Exile and Revan.  So several years later, I have closure I guess. 

Fallout 3, terrible ending.  A ton of older console games had bad endings.  Halo 2.  People argue Half Life 2 had a bad ending though I liked it.  Metal Gear Solid 2.  Some of the final fantasies.  Monkey Island 2 is hated by many.  Another one people didn't like was Alan Wake, but that's another one I personally loved.  And of course, KotOR 2 due to Lucas Arts rushing it out the door.