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[waldstr18]

@dwailing

i actually left the first time i was here, cause someone called me troll out of the blue. but then a few days later i came back and someone actually posted hes glad to see me back here, cause he liked the points i made and he was afraid that the rude guy chased me off. i even got some personal messages from people saying i shouldnt take the inpolite posters serious.

so i figure even though some of you have nothing better to do than fight with me over whos a troll and who isnt, others just like to read the posts while contemplating about whether or not they should believe in the theory.

after awhile i of course gave up the arguing and just came in here asking if something has been proven and if you are still following the theory. that seemed to offend people the most, which i can actually understand. even though i didnt mean to offend anyone. but since ive been called a troll without reason the first time i came here, i dont see why i should be bothered by anyone calling me a troll now. its an over used word anyhow, so who cares?

now if you call someone else a troll while im here - that i dont care for. and since i liked getting defended by someone else, i have to defend my follow non believers as well, if they get teamed up on just for posting here. which then ends with everyone teaming up on me again, but i dont care, now im used to it and its just a online forum. you dont know me, i dont know you. who knows what kind of horrible troubles some of you have to deal with outside this thread.

oh, and i like to talk of course.

[gpost]

Just finished my first playthrough and I have to agree, as Shepard drags himself to his feet and walks towards the Conduit it all really seems like a dream. Oh well, going to have to wait to see what the EC does.

Meanwhile, my second playthrough featuring my Renegade Shep has started!

[Dwailing]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...
Third: Where, when and how did TIM introduce these nanites into Shepard and Anderson's systems? Couldn't have been during project Lazarus, otherwise the Reapers could have assumed control at just about any time.

The nanides are airborne, as said in one log that the disposal guys had to wear heavy hazmat suits at any time in a certain area, and are present in husks and other reaperfied organics this can infect anyone near them with prolonged exposure. Anderson certainly had that on Earth, especially in London.

Fair enough, but how did they get into Shepard's system? Especially if they were wearing a sealed helmet the whole time.

I'm not really arguing that Shepard wasn't being indoctrinated. I'm saying that it's probably by subliminal methods mentioned in the codex. I had a draft of a small essay where I discussed this subject. I'll find it, clean it up and present it here for you guys to analyze.

Shep did say s/he heared the casing crack his/her helmet even if s/he couldn't find it ^^
Also again this for the subliminal stuff: http://www.youtube.c...N7RIiKbA#t=167s

Wow, that thing about the Reaper is creepy.

[SS2Dante]

Pascal219 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/trutriciahelfer/status/195630840527589377

Aaaand since I just started watching BSG ths was the first time it clicked for me who voices EDI. Awesomes.

[TheConstantOne]

gpost wrote...

Just finished my first playthrough and I have to agree, as Shepard drags himself to his feet and walks towards the Conduit it all really seems like a dream. Oh well, going to have to wait to see what the EC does.

Meanwhile, my second playthrough featuring my Renegade Shep has started!

I felt SO bad when I finished my renegade playthrough.  Some of the things I did were terrible...

[paxxton]

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

What part of "synthetics killing off organics so that organics aren't killed off by synthetics" makes sense?

They do not kill all organics so there is no paradox.

Actually, there is a paradox, because what I said did not imply that the reapers killed everything off. And the excuse that they leave less advanced species alone is BS. What about huskified harvesters? Or the Krogan, who are only capable of space travel due to outside intervention?

Argument still stands: genocide of several species because they might create synthetics that destroy everything is hypocritical in the extreme.

Take another look at Palaven. How is that justifiable?!

Since when morality and logic are the same thing???

Modifié par paxxton, 26 avril 2012 - 10:19 .

[Dwailing]

TheConstantOne wrote...

gpost wrote...

Just finished my first playthrough and I have to agree, as Shepard drags himself to his feet and walks towards the Conduit it all really seems like a dream. Oh well, going to have to wait to see what the EC does.

Meanwhile, my second playthrough featuring my Renegade Shep has started!

I felt SO bad when I finished my renegade playthrough.  Some of the things I did were terrible...

I can't bear to watch some of the Renegade things.  The hardest things for me to watch are the killings of Mordin and Legion.  I swear I die a little inside every time I watch those on YouTube.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

gpost wrote...

Just finished my first playthrough and I have to agree, as Shepard drags himself to his feet and walks towards the Conduit it all really seems like a dream. Oh well, going to have to wait to see what the EC does.

Meanwhile, my second playthrough featuring my Renegade Shep has started!

Well, welcome. Brace yourself for the neverending troll battle in this thread.

[Uncle Jo]

Redondant post

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 26 avril 2012 - 10:21 .

[SS2Dante]

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

What part of "synthetics killing off organics so that organics aren't killed off by synthetics" makes sense?

They do not kill all organics so there is no paradox.

Actually, there is a paradox, because what I said did not imply that the reapers killed everything off. And the excuse that they leave less advanced species alone is BS. What about huskified harvesters? Or the Krogan, who are only capable of space travel due to outside intervention?

Argument still stands: genocide of several species because they might create synthetics that destroy everything is hypocritical in the extreme.

Take another look at Palaven. How is that justifiable?!

Krogan didn't develop technology independently but they still have it and use it, and therefore can concievably develop synthetics well earlier than 50,000 years after current events.

Genocide of several species is ENTIRELY justified if they might create synthetics that could destroy ALL organic life, FOREVER. At least, by sheer number crunching it is.

Your entire argument is based on emotional and moral grounds, not calculations of likelihood. 

[TheConstantOne]

Dwailing wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

gpost wrote...

Just finished my first playthrough and I have to agree, as Shepard drags himself to his feet and walks towards the Conduit it all really seems like a dream. Oh well, going to have to wait to see what the EC does.

Meanwhile, my second playthrough featuring my Renegade Shep has started!

I felt SO bad when I finished my renegade playthrough.  Some of the things I did were terrible...

I can't bear to watch some of the Renegade things.  The hardest things for me to watch are the killings of Mordin and Legion.  I swear I die a little inside every time I watch those on YouTube.

I died so thoroughly in that playthrough that I actually think I owe the world life at this point

[MegumiAzusa]

Dwailing wrote...

Wow, that thing about the Reaper is creepy.

You never noticed that?
Then also watch the start with the context that Liara might be indoctrinated, even more creepy

[HellishFiend]

Pascal219 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/trutriciahelfer/status/195630840527589377

Nice!

[lex0r11]

Baldsake wrote...

Lol gotta love these kids getting mad over a videogame forum discussion.

[SS2Dante]

HellishFiend wrote...

Pascal219 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/trutriciahelfer/status/195630840527589377

Nice!

Not really helpful to either side, is it?

EDIT - actually, if she does her extra lines and the Shep VO's don't then it hurts IT. Unless they've already recorded their dialogue, but...:S

Modifié par SS2Dante, 26 avril 2012 - 10:24 .

[llbountyhunter]

SS2Dante wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

What part of "synthetics killing off organics so that organics aren't killed off by synthetics" makes sense?

They do not kill all organics so there is no paradox.

Actually, there is a paradox, because what I said did not imply that the reapers killed everything off. And the excuse that they leave less advanced species alone is BS. What about huskified harvesters? Or the Krogan, who are only capable of space travel due to outside intervention?

Argument still stands: genocide of several species because they might create synthetics that destroy everything is hypocritical in the extreme.

Take another look at Palaven. How is that justifiable?!

Krogan didn't develop technology independently but they still have it and use it, and therefore can concievably develop synthetics well earlier than 50,000 years after current events.

Genocide of several species is ENTIRELY justified if they might create synthetics that could destroy ALL organic life, FOREVER. At least, by sheer number crunching it is.

Your entire argument is based on emotional and moral grounds, not calculations of likelihood. 

any organic might rise up and destroy all other civilazations as well.... the probabilty of that happening is higher since you need organics first.

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

What part of "synthetics killing off organics so that organics aren't killed off by synthetics" makes sense?

They do not kill all organics so there is no paradox.

Actually, there is a paradox, because what I said did not imply that the reapers killed everything off. And the excuse that they leave less advanced species alone is BS. What about huskified harvesters? Or the Krogan, who are only capable of space travel due to outside intervention?

Argument still stands: genocide of several species because they might create synthetics that destroy everything is hypocritical in the extreme.

Take another look at Palaven. How is that justifiable?!

Since when morality and logic are the same thing???

This is why many people have a missconception about logic, they can't separate it from morality.

[SS2Dante]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

What part of "synthetics killing off organics so that organics aren't killed off by synthetics" makes sense?

They do not kill all organics so there is no paradox.

Actually, there is a paradox, because what I said did not imply that the reapers killed everything off. And the excuse that they leave less advanced species alone is BS. What about huskified harvesters? Or the Krogan, who are only capable of space travel due to outside intervention?

Argument still stands: genocide of several species because they might create synthetics that destroy everything is hypocritical in the extreme.

Take another look at Palaven. How is that justifiable?!

Since when morality and logic are the same thing???

This is why many people have a missconception about logic, they can't separate it from morality.

^This^

[SS2Dante]

llbountyhunter wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

What part of "synthetics killing off organics so that organics aren't killed off by synthetics" makes sense?

They do not kill all organics so there is no paradox.

Actually, there is a paradox, because what I said did not imply that the reapers killed everything off. And the excuse that they leave less advanced species alone is BS. What about huskified harvesters? Or the Krogan, who are only capable of space travel due to outside intervention?

Argument still stands: genocide of several species because they might create synthetics that destroy everything is hypocritical in the extreme.

Take another look at Palaven. How is that justifiable?!

Krogan didn't develop technology independently but they still have it and use it, and therefore can concievably develop synthetics well earlier than 50,000 years after current events.

Genocide of several species is ENTIRELY justified if they might create synthetics that could destroy ALL organic life, FOREVER. At least, by sheer number crunching it is.

Your entire argument is based on emotional and moral grounds, not calculations of likelihood. 

any organic might rise up and destroy all other civilazations as well.... the probabilty of that happening is higher since you need organics first.

Yes. But that doesn't change anything. Organics still exist.

[Dwailing]

SS2Dante wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

What part of "synthetics killing off organics so that organics aren't killed off by synthetics" makes sense?

They do not kill all organics so there is no paradox.

Actually, there is a paradox, because what I said did not imply that the reapers killed everything off. And the excuse that they leave less advanced species alone is BS. What about huskified harvesters? Or the Krogan, who are only capable of space travel due to outside intervention?

Argument still stands: genocide of several species because they might create synthetics that destroy everything is hypocritical in the extreme.

Take another look at Palaven. How is that justifiable?!

Since when morality and logic are the same thing???

This is why many people have a missconception about logic, they can't separate it from morality.

^This^

Sometimes you just have to say, "Screw logic, I'm going to do what feels right."  And sometimes, that actually does pay off.  (cough) War Assets (cough)  

[Nauks]

Dwailing wrote...

I can't bear to watch some of the Renegade things.  The hardest things for me to watch are the killings of Mordin and Legion.  I swear I die a little inside every time I watch those on YouTube.

I could never go full Renegade in ME3, I'd need therapy to deal with all the horrible sheet I'd have Shepard do >
Renegades really get the shaft in ME3 tbh, so much pure wrongness, on the other hand, pure Paragon is too saint like too, Paragade for me thankyou.

[Baldsake]

lex0r11 wrote...

Baldsake wrote...

Lol gotta love these kids getting mad over a videogame forum discussion.

Modifié par Baldsake, 26 avril 2012 - 10:28 .

[HellishFiend]

SS2Dante wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Pascal219 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/trutriciahelfer/status/195630840527589377

Nice!

Not really helpful to either side, is it?

EDIT - actually, if she does her extra lines and the Shep VO's don't then it hurts IT. Unless they've already recorded their dialogue, but...:S

I just think it's cool that theyre already recording dialog. Obviously that tweet in and of itself is not any indicator beyond the fact that EDI will have more dialog... 

It COULD indicate that whatever theyre doing, they already have it storyboarded and more or less ready to be put together. 

[Dwailing]

Nauks wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I can't bear to watch some of the Renegade things.  The hardest things for me to watch are the killings of Mordin and Legion.  I swear I die a little inside every time I watch those on YouTube.

I could never go full Renegade in ME3, I'd need therapy to deal with all the horrible sheet I'd have Shepard do >
Renegades really get the shaft in ME3 tbh, so much pure wrongness, on the other hand, pure Paragon is too saint like too, Paragade for me thankyou.

I'm pure Paragon with a couple exceptions.  I punched Admiral Han'Gerral, I shot Udina, I interrupted Kai Leng, etc.  I actually thought the option of punching Admiral Gerrel should be a Paragon interrupt, like punching Zaeed in ME2.

[EpyonX3]

Against every moral fiber in my body, I'm going to play Renegade for the first time in the ME series. I usually youtube renegade options but I figured I'd go full tyrant myself.