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#44901
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n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Twilight sucks anyways. I don't see the hype with it. I understand the books.... but the films have the worst acting, screenplays and special effects. For a franchise that makes so much money.. they sure don't seem to mind hiring ****ty directors and writers.


To be fair, it wont matter how good the directors you hire are, they arent going to be able to overcome Stephenie Meyer's atrocious writing and make a good movie.

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SS2Dante wrote...

Mathematical logic? Logical equivalances, tautologies, implication, stuff like that? (good old de morgan :P ) Mathematically we're set, yes, but you can't break down a sufficiently complex real world situation like this into the correct model to really reflect it accurately, was all I meant. In doing so you will inevitably make a mistake based on a value judgement you don't know you're making. The actual logic will be sound, but the initial conditions will be wrong.


Value judgement has no place in logic. The only exception is if you are drawing assumptions rather than conclusions. Drawing assumptions is only loosely based on logic and shouldnt be confused for actual logic. 

Logic:
Steven is not color Blind
The sky is blue
Therefore, Steven sees a blue sky

Assumption:
Steven enjoys tennis
There is a big tennis game this weekend
Therefore, Steven would like to receive tickets to the big tennis game this weekend for his birthday


Logic:
The reapers harvest advanced organic civilizations
Humans are an advanced organic civilization, by definition
Therefore, the reapers will harvest Humanity

Assumption:
The created will always rebel against their creators
(assumption based on historical precedent) 
Organics will always develop Synthetics
 (a near statistical certainty) 
Therefore, Synthetics will eventually wipe out all organics
(assumption/unverifiable conclusion. not sufficiently supported by premises. additional contributing factors not present in the logical process) 


And here, I thought of an even better one. Sorry if it's a bit explicit but I think it drives the point home far better.

Assumption:
The created will always rebel against their creators
(assumption based on historical precedent) 
Organics will always develop Synthetics
 (a near statistical certainty) 
Therefore, Synthetics will eventually wipe out all organics
(assumption/unverifiable conclusion. not sufficiently supported by premises. additional contributing factors not present in the logical process)  


Assumption:
Human Boys will always have sex with Human Girls to produce Human offspring
(assumption based on historical precedent)  
Humanity will always consist of both Boys and Girls
(a near statistical certainty)
Therefore, Humanity will always exist and will never die out or otherwise go extinct 
(assumption/unverifiable conclusion. not sufficiently supported by premises. additional contributing factors not present in the logical process)  

Do you see how the logic falls apart there? There are too many variables for either of those to be a logical conclusion. A logical assumption? Sure, in both cases, if you ALSO assume that the premises are true (note that the premises are NOT facts, they are other assumptions and statistical probabilities!), and that the other contributing factors that are absent from the logical process are conducive towards your conclusion.

As this applies to starbrats fail logic, his assumption relies on too many other assumptions (and even relying on ONE assumption invalidates his logic), such as the supposed malicious synthetics even being interested in wiping out any further organics aside from their creators in the first place. There are too many variables and unverifiable assumptions for it to be sound logic. Sound assumption? Debatable. Sound logic. NO. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 27 avril 2012 - 12:22 .


#44903
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By the way. Do we have any plans for when this thread hits page 1812?

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llbountyhunter wrote...

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Domanese wrote...

So you want a Liara motivational Dwailing? You asked for it!


Liara, no contest.


Even if we took out the fact that a woman having a crush on another woman is always the preferred state of crushes, Liara is a well written character, whereas Edward is a 100+ year old vampire who for some reason still goes to high school and falls in love with underage girls.

At least Liara isnt an immortal pervert.



doesnt jacob fall in love with that newborn baby? 
 (dont ask how i know this) 
that whole series is full of creepers.  


I think so.

I think the baby ages super fast though, because its a vampire?

I guess vampire babies age incredibly fast but vampire teenagers and adults dont age at all.

Also, I think Edward gave Pants a C-Section using nothing but his teeth to rip the baby out of her.

Twilight is weird.

I only really know what I know about Twilight from the Bum Reviews of the movies.

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balance5050 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

still you are not supposed to punch them. also dont kid yourself, women are far from equal. at least not in germany. which isnt always a bad things, the girls can handle themselves im sure, but punching them?

also, like i said, i didnt find her annoying at all. you guys are just way too touchy. lighten up. enjoy your life. dont get mad at every little thing. and dont punch girls!


I think I understand why you're so lonely now....


im lonely? not at all. well, i dont have a girlfriend in the common sense at the moment, but i just came out of a relationship in which i was with 2 girls, who knew about each other. and! it wasnt even my idea. i just wanted a threesome, cause i had been offered one in the past, but i said no, cause im not into smokers, but now i had two healthy girls at hand. so my current girlfriend said, no trinity, but if i want, i can sleep with her. well, then i didnt want to take advantage of the other girl, and asked her if she wanted to be my girlfriend as well. that was awesome, actually. but i never had both of them at the same time... pitty.

oh, and they were both hot. one was a little shy, but the other one... oooh yeah.... when people saw us, the men noded at me, like i had won a price or something. that was awesome, i tell you. unfortunately the young one left me for a pretty boy. well, i could actually understand that, if she hadnt left me for him, i might have left her and turned gay.. thats how pretty he was. would have made a nice girl. i hate him. ... not really... still..

at the moment i have more like a sport relationship, if you get what i mean. im actually trying to get into another girls pants though, but shes really difficult about it. shes 25 but has the lady business of a 16 year old also shes into the whole religion thing, which raises the difficulty bar few notches as well.


Pics or it didn't happen.

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@Dwailing
My opinion is only a total blackout serves any purpose. He either can't see the effect of his actions (not buying it) or he knows what he is up to and unless he calls for a truce and sticks to it -including renouncing his threat to troll even harder if IDT is wrong- then I think the silent treatment is best, for everyones sake.

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waldstr18 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

still you are not supposed to punch them. also dont kid yourself, women are far from equal. at least not in germany. which isnt always a bad things, the girls can handle themselves im sure, but punching them?

also, like i said, i didnt find her annoying at all. you guys are just way too touchy. lighten up. enjoy your life. dont get mad at every little thing. and dont punch girls!


I think I understand why you're so lonely now....


im lonely? not at all. well, i dont have a girlfriend in the common sense at the moment, but i just came out of a relationship in which i was with 2 girls, who knew about each other. and! it wasnt even my idea. i just wanted a threesome, cause i had been offered one in the past, but i said no, cause im not into smokers, but now i had two healthy girls at hand. so my current girlfriend said, no trinity, but if i want, i can sleep with her. well, then i didnt want to take advantage of the other girl, and asked her if she wanted to be my girlfriend as well. that was awesome, actually. but i never had both of them at the same time... pitty.

oh, and they were both hot. one was a little shy, but the other one... oooh yeah.... when people saw us, the men noded at me, like i had won a price or something. that was awesome, i tell you. unfortunately the young one left me for a pretty boy. well, i could actually understand that, if she hadnt left me for him, i might have left her and turned gay.. thats how pretty he was. would have made a nice girl. i hate him. ... not really... still..

at the moment i have more like a sport relationship, if you get what i mean. im actually trying to get into another girls pants though, but shes really difficult about it. shes 25 but has the lady business of a 16 year old also shes into the whole religion thing, which raises the difficulty bar few notches as well.


That's really interesting, but we're not gonna write your biography...

BTW Difficulty bar? seriously?...

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waldstr18 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

still you are not supposed to punch them. also dont kid yourself, women are far from equal. at least not in germany. which isnt always a bad things, the girls can handle themselves im sure, but punching them?

also, like i said, i didnt find her annoying at all. you guys are just way too touchy. lighten up. enjoy your life. dont get mad at every little thing. and dont punch girls!


I think I understand why you're so lonely now....


im lonely? not at all. well, i dont have a girlfriend in the common sense at the moment, but i just came out of a relationship in which i was with 2 girls, who knew about each other. and! it wasnt even my idea. i just wanted a threesome, cause i had been offered one in the past, but i said no, cause im not into smokers, but now i had two healthy girls at hand. so my current girlfriend said, no trinity, but if i want, i can sleep with her. well, then i didnt want to take advantage of the other girl, and asked her if she wanted to be my girlfriend as well. that was awesome, actually. but i never had both of them at the same time... pitty.

oh, and they were both hot. one was a little shy, but the other one... oooh yeah.... when people saw us, the men noded at me, like i had won a price or something. that was awesome, i tell you. unfortunately the young one left me for a pretty boy. well, i could actually understand that, if she hadnt left me for him, i might have left her and turned gay.. thats how pretty he was. would have made a nice girl. i hate him. ... not really... still..

at the moment i have more like a sport relationship, if you get what i mean. im actually trying to get into another girls pants though, but shes really difficult about it. shes 25 but has the lady business of a 16 year old also shes into the whole religion thing, which raises the difficulty bar few notches as well.


OK, screw not feeding the trolls.  This is beyond stupid.  Sorry mate, no other words for it.  You sound like one of those brats on Xbox Live.  I'm through with you.  This is is.  I'm DONE.  Lex0r11, when waldstr18 leaves, send me a message on Origin.  Until then, I'm THROUGH.  Bye all, see you later.  Oh and for good measure, I'd really like to have a Renegade interrupt right now.  Not going to say what it would do, but let's just say that it would be painful. 

Edit: Also, I'm going to report waldstr18.  That's right, I'm NOT screwing around any more.

Modifié par Dwailing, 27 avril 2012 - 12:24 .


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byne wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Twilight sucks anyways. I don't see the hype with it. I understand the books.... but the films have the worst acting, screenplays and special effects. For a franchise that makes so much money.. they sure don't seem to mind hiring ****ty directors and writers.


To be fair, it wont matter how good the directors you hire are, they arent going to be able to overcome Stephenie Meyer's atrocious writing and make a good movie.


the books werent THAT bad (oh god listen to me)  the story wasnt great but the writing itself was ok....

I also read "the host" and i actually liked that one... up untill the the last third were the girl falls in love with a alien and it turns into another  twilight (that writer doesnt seem to like human males does she?)

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llbountyhunter wrote...

byne wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Twilight sucks anyways. I don't see the hype with it. I understand the books.... but the films have the worst acting, screenplays and special effects. For a franchise that makes so much money.. they sure don't seem to mind hiring ****ty directors and writers.


To be fair, it wont matter how good the directors you hire are, they arent going to be able to overcome Stephenie Meyer's atrocious writing and make a good movie.


the books werent THAT bad (oh god listen to me)  the story wasnt great but the writing itself was ok....

I also read "the host" and i actually liked that one... up untill the the last third were the girl falls in love with a alien and it turns into another  twilight (that writer doesnt seem to like human males does she?)




Twilight is sh*t. Anyone who likes it is indoctrinated. Sorry but it has nothing on Harry Potter... or Lord of the Rings.. or any of the other fantasy/sci-fi style films.

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waldstr18 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Please answer my question, Wald.


repeat question and i gladly will.


lex0r11 wrote...

Just a question. Nothing mean or anything.
Might i kindly induce you to leave this whole thing untill the DLC comes out? If not, please explain.

Maybe it's a good idea for everyone.


Just curious, but you seem to ignore half of my questions directed at you. This one has been posted more than once the last few pages.


that one i read, but i dont get it. what am i supposed to explain. please clarify.

you are asking me to leave (politely of course), and if i dont, i should explain. explain what? why i dont leave?

people are answering directly to my posts, just like you are, so i answer them. i rarely answer posts that arent addressed at me. really. sometime i actually want to comment something, but in the middle of it, i remember that there are probably more angles to it, which i dont see, cause i havent played the game 12 times or even as renegade once. also sometimes i just cant manage to build a sentence the way i like it to be. you know, ironic and funny. or annoying, as you would call it. so i just leave it be.

i hope thats what you wanted me to explain.


So you want to stay because you want to have conversation.
Let's assume that only 5% of it is the exchange of trolls with other users, but it is still disctracting to the purpose of this thread. I don't care who called you names first. I don't care who is a victim here. I care about that this thread stays a place where people come and stay because it is fun, without people shouting at each other who can't convince the other one of his point anyway.

Are you really interested in staying here to defend something? Or do you want to bother people because they bothered you too? And in all honesty, most of it is poisen for this thread. Do you want the flaming to stop because you prefer a normal conversation or do you want to bother people? At this point there are only two choices.

Stay and a lot of people will keep fighting you because of you reputaition. You know it's far too late to convince people otherwise. And they can't convince you of their problems.

Or i again would ask you to leave until the DLC comes out and IT is proven wrong and you can declare or write what you have promised many times.

If you stay here, in my opinion, you want the flaming in here for a reason.
You can explain to me why i am wrong about this.

Modifié par lex0r11, 27 avril 2012 - 12:29 .


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 Arrrrgh my accomplishments disappeared! :crying: What..... Why.... How?... Awwww now I don't have any more reasons to play ME3 again :?...

I need a hug... :crying:

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llbountyhunter wrote...

byne wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Twilight sucks anyways. I don't see the hype with it. I understand the books.... but the films have the worst acting, screenplays and special effects. For a franchise that makes so much money.. they sure don't seem to mind hiring ****ty directors and writers.


To be fair, it wont matter how good the directors you hire are, they arent going to be able to overcome Stephenie Meyer's atrocious writing and make a good movie.


the books werent THAT bad (oh god listen to me)  the story wasnt great but the writing itself was ok....

I also read "the host" and i actually liked that one... up untill the the last third were the girl falls in love with a alien and it turns into another  twilight (that writer doesnt seem to like human males does she?)




No they were pretty bad, she uses the same words over and over agian to describe things and it's meant to appeal to insecure female teenagers.

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balance5050 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

still you are not supposed to punch them. also dont kid yourself, women are far from equal. at least not in germany. which isnt always a bad things, the girls can handle themselves im sure, but punching them?

also, like i said, i didnt find her annoying at all. you guys are just way too touchy. lighten up. enjoy your life. dont get mad at every little thing. and dont punch girls!


I think I understand why you're so lonely now....


im lonely? not at all. well, i dont have a girlfriend in the common sense at the moment, but i just came out of a relationship in which i was with 2 girls, who knew about each other. and! it wasnt even my idea. i just wanted a threesome, cause i had been offered one in the past, but i said no, cause im not into smokers, but now i had two healthy girls at hand. so my current girlfriend said, no trinity, but if i want, i can sleep with her. well, then i didnt want to take advantage of the other girl, and asked her if she wanted to be my girlfriend as well. that was awesome, actually. but i never had both of them at the same time... pitty.

oh, and they were both hot. one was a little shy, but the other one... oooh yeah.... when people saw us, the men noded at me, like i had won a price or something. that was awesome, i tell you. unfortunately the young one left me for a pretty boy. well, i could actually understand that, if she hadnt left me for him, i might have left her and turned gay.. thats how pretty he was. would have made a nice girl. i hate him. ... not really... still..

at the moment i have more like a sport relationship, if you get what i mean. im actually trying to get into another girls pants though, but shes really difficult about it. shes 25 but has the lady business of a 16 year old also shes into the whole religion thing, which raises the difficulty bar few notches as well.


Pics or it didn't happen.


sorry, i cant. if word got out im presenting my girls on the net, no one would do crazy stuff with me no more. and believe me, im into some twisted ****. also i actually dont have a picture of the girls and me. the 18 year old was open to filming the action, but i conviced her she should never do that, cause she never knows how a guy copes with a break up. of course then i still thought we would stay together forever. (the gullable part of me i mentioned a few 100 posts back)

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n00bsauce2010 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

byne wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Twilight sucks anyways. I don't see the hype with it. I understand the books.... but the films have the worst acting, screenplays and special effects. For a franchise that makes so much money.. they sure don't seem to mind hiring ****ty directors and writers.


To be fair, it wont matter how good the directors you hire are, they arent going to be able to overcome Stephenie Meyer's atrocious writing and make a good movie.


the books werent THAT bad (oh god listen to me)  the story wasnt great but the writing itself was ok....

I also read "the host" and i actually liked that one... up untill the the last third were the girl falls in love with a alien and it turns into another  twilight (that writer doesnt seem to like human males does she?)




Twilight is sh*t. Anyone who likes it is indoctrinated. Sorry but it has nothing on Harry Potter... or Lord of the Rings.. or any of the other fantasy/sci-fi style films.


i didnt say i like it, I just said the writing wasnt terrible (while the story is).

I agree, I read both harry potter and lotr, and I must say the harry potter movies (with the excpetion of the 1st and last ones) really dont compare at all with the books, i always got the feeling that they were directed by someone who only read the back summary.  

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Ravereth wrote...

 Arrrrgh my accomplishments disappeared! :crying: What..... Why.... How?... Awwww now I don't have any more reasons to play ME3 again :?...

I need a hug... :crying:


People in here gonna need it too anyway.

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Someone says Waldstr is lonely, and Waldstr comes back with 'Nuh uh, dog! I had sex with ALL THE WOMEN!'

You're trying way too hard Waldstr.

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balance5050 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

byne wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Twilight sucks anyways. I don't see the hype with it. I understand the books.... but the films have the worst acting, screenplays and special effects. For a franchise that makes so much money.. they sure don't seem to mind hiring ****ty directors and writers.


To be fair, it wont matter how good the directors you hire are, they arent going to be able to overcome Stephenie Meyer's atrocious writing and make a good movie.


the books werent THAT bad (oh god listen to me)  the story wasnt great but the writing itself was ok....

I also read "the host" and i actually liked that one... up untill the the last third were the girl falls in love with a alien and it turns into another  twilight (that writer doesnt seem to like human males does she?)




No they were pretty bad, she uses the same words over and over agian to describe things and it's meant to appeal to insecure female teenagers.


ok, ok,...... let me put it this way... Ive read worse books. 

(i read quite a bit)

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Then it didn't happen, I'm ignoring the child from now on.....

Modifié par balance5050, 27 avril 2012 - 12:32 .


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lex0r11 wrote...

So you want to stay because you want to have conversation.
Let's assume that only 5% of it is the exchange of trolls with other users, but it is still disctracting to the purpose of this thread. I don't care who called you names first. I don't care who is a victim here. I care about that this thread stays a place where people come and stay because it is fun, without people shouting at each other who can't convince the other one of his point anyway.

Are you really interested in staying here to defend something? Or do you want to bother people because they bothered you too? And in all honesty, most of it is poisen for this thread. Do you want the flaming to stop because you prefer a normal conversation or do you want to bother people? At this point there are only two choices.

Stay and a lot of people will keep fighting you because of you reputaition. You know it's far too late to convince people otherwise. And they can't convince you of their problems.

Or i again would ask you to leave until the DLC comes out and IT is proven wrong and you can declare or write what you have promised many times.

If you stay here, in my opinion, you want the flaming in here for a reason.
You can explain to me why i am wrong about this.


whos fighting with me at the moment? 

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byne wrote...

Someone says Waldstr is lonely, and Waldstr comes back with 'Nuh uh, dog! I had sex with ALL THE WOMEN!'

You're trying way too hard Waldstr.


LOL! He's exactly like a COD tween huh.

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Dwailing wrote...


OK, screw not feeding the trolls.  This is beyond stupid.  Sorry mate, no other words for it.  You sound like one of those brats on Xbox Live.  I'm through with you.  This is is.  I'm DONE.  Lex0r11, when waldstr18 leaves, send me a message on Origin.  Until then, I'm THROUGH.  Bye all, see you later.  Oh and for good measure, I'd really like to have a Renegade interrupt right now.  Not going to say what it would do, but let's just say that it would be painful. 

Edit: Also, I'm going to report waldstr18.  That's right, I'm NOT screwing around any more.



It could be really true... The guy scares the hell out of me. He's beyond a simple troll... And I'm in Germany too...

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Ok, listen up everyone, here we have the main event!
Introducing Q as waldstr18 and Sisko as many of the posters in this topic:


Now taking bets!

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Dwailing wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

still you are not supposed to punch them. also dont kid yourself, women are far from equal. at least not in germany. which isnt always a bad things, the girls can handle themselves im sure, but punching them?

also, like i said, i didnt find her annoying at all. you guys are just way too touchy. lighten up. enjoy your life. dont get mad at every little thing. and dont punch girls!


I think I understand why you're so lonely now....


im lonely? not at all. well, i dont have a girlfriend in the common sense at the moment, but i just came out of a relationship in which i was with 2 girls, who knew about each other. and! it wasnt even my idea. i just wanted a threesome, cause i had been offered one in the past, but i said no, cause im not into smokers, but now i had two healthy girls at hand. so my current girlfriend said, no trinity, but if i want, i can sleep with her. well, then i didnt want to take advantage of the other girl, and asked her if she wanted to be my girlfriend as well. that was awesome, actually. but i never had both of them at the same time... pitty.

oh, and they were both hot. one was a little shy, but the other one... oooh yeah.... when people saw us, the men noded at me, like i had won a price or something. that was awesome, i tell you. unfortunately the young one left me for a pretty boy. well, i could actually understand that, if she hadnt left me for him, i might have left her and turned gay.. thats how pretty he was. would have made a nice girl. i hate him. ... not really... still..

at the moment i have more like a sport relationship, if you get what i mean. im actually trying to get into another girls pants though, but shes really difficult about it. shes 25 but has the lady business of a 16 year old also shes into the whole religion thing, which raises the difficulty bar few notches as well.


OK, screw not feeding the trolls.  This is beyond stupid.  Sorry mate, no other words for it.  You sound like one of those brats on Xbox Live.  I'm through with you.  This is is.  I'm DONE.  Lex0r11, when waldstr18 leaves, send me a message on Origin.  Until then, I'm THROUGH.  Bye all, see you later.  Oh and for good measure, I'd really like to have a Renegade interrupt right now.  Not going to say what it would do, but let's just say that it would be painful. 

Edit: Also, I'm going to report waldstr18.  That's right, I'm NOT screwing around any more.


Get in ****ing line, I reported him a while back myself.

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waldstr18 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

So you want to stay because you want to have conversation.
Let's
assume that only 5% of it is the exchange of trolls with other users,
but it is still disctracting to the purpose of this thread. I don't care
who called you names first. I don't care who is a victim here. I care
about that this thread stays a place where people come and stay because
it is fun, without people shouting at each other who can't convince the
other one of his point anyway.

Are you really interested in
staying here to defend something? Or do you want to bother people
because they bothered you too? And in all honesty, most of it is poisen
for this thread. Do you want the flaming to stop because you prefer a
normal conversation or do you want to bother people? At this point there
are only two choices.

Stay and a lot of people will keep
fighting you because of you reputaition. You know it's far too late to
convince people otherwise. And they can't convince you of their
problems.

Or i again would ask you to leave until the DLC comes
out and IT is proven wrong and you can declare or write what you have
promised many times.

If you stay here, in my opinion, you want the flaming in here for a reason.
You can explain to me why i am wrong about this.


whos fighting with me at the moment? 



You have to admit you are affecting this thread in a negative way, you said it yourself i believe.

So which of the reasons i mentioned you want to stay in here for?

And again, you can prove me wrong if me saying you staying here means you want the thread full of negativity.

Modifié par lex0r11, 27 avril 2012 - 12:40 .