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[balance5050]

byne wrote...

RaenImrahl wrote...

Discussion of the "Twilight" books belongs in the off-topic forum. Let's get this thread back *on* topic, please.

Hah, apparently Twilight is the one off-topic discussion we've had that was so horrendous it required a mod to intervene!

Anyways, does anyone find it odd that you get the Indoctrination codex entry right after Ashley/Kaidan finds the dead Cerberus trooper and sees his implants?

I dont know about what Kaidan says, but Ash says "They could have done that to you! For all I knew, they did!" or something along those lines.

The weird part is that at that point, you dont actually know that the Cerberus troops are indoctrinated, you just know they have cybernetic implants.

You dont really learn Cerberus troops are indoctrinated until later, yet thats when you get the indoctrination codex.

When Ash mentions maybe TIM did something to you.

Yeah, when she says "Would you even know if you were being controlled?" I instantly thought foreshadowing.

[Simon_Says]

byne wrote...

RaenImrahl wrote...

Discussion of the "Twilight" books belongs in the off-topic forum. Let's get this thread back *on* topic, please.

Hah, apparently Twilight is the one off-topic discussion we've had that was so horrendous it required a mod to intervene!

Anyways, does anyone find it odd that you get the Indoctrination codex entry right after Ashley/Kaidan finds the dead Cerberus trooper and sees his implants?

I dont know about what Kaidan says, but Ash says "They could have done that to you! For all I knew, they did!" or something along those lines.

The weird part is that at that point, you dont actually know that the Cerberus troops are indoctrinated, you just know they have cybernetic implants.

You dont really learn Cerberus troops are indoctrinated until later, yet thats when you get the indoctrination codex.

When Ash mentions maybe TIM did something to you.

The problem would be that if Shepard was grafted to indoctrinating cybernetics then the reapers could have easily asusmed control of Shepard as they did Paul Grayson at almost any time. The scene with Miranda about the control chip also suggests that TIM and Cerberus weren't compromised by indoctrination, and weren't about to compromise Shepard either.

[Arian Dynas]

Anywho, Spotless came to me, begging for one of my information bomb posts to get us back on subject, but unfortunately I have a scholarly paper to write for linguistics, and unfortunately, I've run out of new info to look at for the time being.

That and to be honest, Gamble's comments about the ending o his twitter have kind of discouraged me. It seems very like he is in favor of a literalist ending, and the people caliming that he is merely speculating "as a fan" like Merizan does little to comfort me.

But, tell ya all what. When I've finished my scholarly paper, I'll go back and add the new additions to my ending script and give you guys a screening, how's that sound?

[byne]

Woo! Page 1800!

[EpyonX3]

RaenImrahl wrote...

Discussion of the "Twilight" books belongs in the off-topic forum. Let's get this thread back *on* topic, please.

First time seeing a mod here. Nice.

[Arian Dynas]

spotlessvoid wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

I'm still going with Reapers gonna Reap! as my headcanon motivation for the Reapers, until we know for sure.

That will always be my head cannon

*coughs and waves around his Reaper beginnings theory*
(check my sig)

[EpyonX3]

spotlessvoid wrote...

RaenImrahl wrote...

Discussion of the "Twilight" books belongs in the off-topic forum. Let's get this thread back *on* topic, please.

EPIC! Moderator with the renegade interrupt. ]

Lol I can hear this being said with Shepards voice and renegade tone.

[llbountyhunter]

EpyonX3 wrote...

RaenImrahl wrote...

Discussion of the "Twilight" books belongs in the off-topic forum. Let's get this thread back *on* topic, please.

First time seeing a mod here. Nice.

weve gotten off topic before.....

must really hate twilight.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 27 avril 2012 - 01:43 .

[MegumiAzusa]

llbountyhunter wrote...

im just wondering, how did the Protheans come to the conclusions that the cycles mean something is controlling the reapers?

"oh, it seems the reapers comes every 50K years to harvest everyone..... 50k years? why 50K? that too much of a coincidence- clearly theyre servants of a higher power"

I mean mean I follow a similar pattern every day.... does that mean Im being controlled as well??????

There was said more than that. Patterns in the evolution of species, conflicts etc. were all too similar.

[spotlessvoid]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, Spotless came to me, begging for one of my information bomb posts to get us back on subject, but unfortunately I have a scholarly paper to write for linguistics, and unfortunately, I've run out of new info to look at for the time being.

That and to be honest, Gamble's comments about the ending o his twitter have kind of discouraged me. It seems very like he is in favor of a literalist ending, and the people caliming that he is merely speculating "as a fan" like Merizan does little to comfort me.

But, tell ya all what. When I've finished my scholarly paper, I'll go back and add the new additions to my ending script and give you guys a screening, how's that sound?

You that bummed over Gambles twitter? You once said it might be a dual ending for casual and hardcore fans. You don't think he might just be pandering to that side? Also, if they are still trying to keep the lid from completely blowing off IDT, wouldn't this fit in with their attempt at redirection without confirmation/denial? Being non prescriptive and what not...

[llbountyhunter]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

im just wondering, how did the Protheans come to the conclusions that the cycles mean something is controlling the reapers?

"oh, it seems the reapers comes every 50K years to harvest everyone..... 50k years? why 50K? that too much of a coincidence- clearly theyre servants of a higher power"

I mean mean I follow a similar pattern every day.... does that mean Im being controlled as well??????

There was said more than that. Patterns in the evolution of species, conflicts etc. were all too similar.

thats because their evolutionary paths were guided by the reapers.... the mass relays, citadel, etc.  they were forced down the same path- it was hardly a coincidence 

I still dont see any exterior inlfience.

harbinger: "you exsist because we allow, and you will fall because we demand it"

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 27 avril 2012 - 01:50 .

[TheConstantOne]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

im just wondering, how did the Protheans come to the conclusions that the cycles mean something is controlling the reapers?

"oh, it seems the reapers comes every 50K years to harvest everyone..... 50k years? why 50K? that too much of a coincidence- clearly theyre servants of a higher power"

I mean mean I follow a similar pattern every day.... does that mean Im being controlled as well??????

There was said more than that. Patterns in the evolution of species, conflicts etc. were all too similar.

I'm with Megumi.  I think the Prothean VI came to this conclusion by observing similar patterns in our life cycle and that the Reapers seem to be the force that restarts the pattern

[Arian Dynas]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

im just wondering, how did the Protheans come to the conclusions that the cycles mean something is controlling the reapers?

"oh, it seems the reapers comes every 50K years to harvest everyone..... 50k years? why 50K? that too much of a coincidence- clearly theyre servants of a higher power"

I mean mean I follow a similar pattern every day.... does that mean Im being controlled as well??????

There was said more than that. Patterns in the evolution of species, conflicts etc. were all too similar.

Must point out, once again, they do NOT in fact come every 50,000 years on the dot, it's ~50,000 years, and they strike whenever galactic society has reached a certain point. Could be earlier, could be later if the cycle has no advanced species.

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

RaenImrahl wrote...

Discussion of the "Twilight" books belongs in the off-topic forum. Let's get this thread back *on* topic, please.

Hah, apparently Twilight is the one off-topic discussion we've had that was so horrendous it required a mod to intervene!

Anyways, does anyone find it odd that you get the Indoctrination codex entry right after Ashley/Kaidan finds the dead Cerberus trooper and sees his implants?

I dont know about what Kaidan says, but Ash says "They could have done that to you! For all I knew, they did!" or something along those lines.

The weird part is that at that point, you dont actually know that the Cerberus troops are indoctrinated, you just know they have cybernetic implants.

You dont really learn Cerberus troops are indoctrinated until later, yet thats when you get the indoctrination codex.

When Ash mentions maybe TIM did something to you.

Uh they still got Reaper tech implanted, thought it was quite clear at that point Cerberus was indoctrinated, so it made sense for me.

[llbountyhunter]

Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

im just wondering, how did the Protheans come to the conclusions that the cycles mean something is controlling the reapers?

"oh, it seems the reapers comes every 50K years to harvest everyone..... 50k years? why 50K? that too much of a coincidence- clearly theyre servants of a higher power"

I mean mean I follow a similar pattern every day.... does that mean Im being controlled as well??????

There was said more than that. Patterns in the evolution of species, conflicts etc. were all too similar.

Must point out, once again, they do NOT in fact come every 50,000 years on the dot, it's ~50,000 years, and they strike whenever galactic society has reached a certain point. Could be earlier, could be later if the cycle has no advanced species.

i was making a point...... <_<

[HellishFiend]

Why is it seemingly lost that Gamble actually deleted that tweet? Everyone is focusing on what he said in the tweet, and the implications of the fact that he deleted it are simply ignored.

[Simon_Says]

It's also really, really weird for them to come out with this information and elaborate it so little, when virtually everything else can be explored in detail by the player through the codex, conversations with squadmates...

Also, it's just lame to reveal there was a Man behind The Man when The Man was alien and menacing enough as they were.

[Arian Dynas]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, Spotless came to me, begging for one of my information bomb posts to get us back on subject, but unfortunately I have a scholarly paper to write for linguistics, and unfortunately, I've run out of new info to look at for the time being.

That and to be honest, Gamble's comments about the ending o his twitter have kind of discouraged me. It seems very like he is in favor of a literalist ending, and the people caliming that he is merely speculating "as a fan" like Merizan does little to comfort me.

But, tell ya all what. When I've finished my scholarly paper, I'll go back and add the new additions to my ending script and give you guys a screening, how's that sound?

You that bummed over Gambles twitter? You once said it might be a dual ending for casual and hardcore fans. You don't think he might just be pandering to that side? Also, if they are still trying to keep the lid from completely blowing off IDT, wouldn't this fit in with their attempt at redirection without confirmation/denial? Being non prescriptive and what not...

Well... I do have one soloution.

If someone could twitter this question to Gamble;

"When you were talking about the endings, was that you invalidating IDT? Basically what I am asking is, when you were saying that, were you speaking as Mike Gamble, Bioware big-wig? Or Mike Gamble, average sci-fi fan, using no inside knowledge?"

That'd be nice...

[Simon_Says]

HellishFiend wrote...

Why is it seemingly lost that Gamble actually deleted that tweet? Everyone is focusing on what he said in the tweet, and the implications of the fact that he deleted it are simply ignored.

He deleted the "red is not best" tweet, but what about the "I like green" tweet?

[MegumiAzusa]

Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

im just wondering, how did the Protheans come to the conclusions that the cycles mean something is controlling the reapers?

"oh, it seems the reapers comes every 50K years to harvest everyone..... 50k years? why 50K? that too much of a coincidence- clearly theyre servants of a higher power"

I mean mean I follow a similar pattern every day.... does that mean Im being controlled as well??????

There was said more than that. Patterns in the evolution of species, conflicts etc. were all too similar.

Must point out, once again, they do NOT in fact come every 50,000 years on the dot, it's ~50,000 years, and they strike whenever galactic society has reached a certain point. Could be earlier, could be later if the cycle has no advanced species.

Doesn't matter, it's about the same every time and it's still repeating. The observation is based on scaling every cycle to 50k years which makes the patterns nearly identical evey time, as shown in the little animation with the galaxy map. Too much coincidence.

[Arian Dynas]

HellishFiend wrote...

Why is it seemingly lost that Gamble actually deleted that tweet? Everyone is focusing on what he said in the tweet, and the implications of the fact that he deleted it are simply ignored.

Ok.... mind expanding on that my friend?

[Auralius Carolus]

TheConstantOne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

im just wondering, how did the Protheans come to the conclusions that the cycles mean something is controlling the reapers?

"oh, it seems the reapers comes every 50K years to harvest everyone..... 50k years? why 50K? that too much of a coincidence- clearly theyre servants of a higher power"

I mean mean I follow a similar pattern every day.... does that mean Im being controlled as well??????

There was said more than that. Patterns in the evolution of species, conflicts etc. were all too similar.

I'm with Megumi.  I think the Prothean VI came to this conclusion by observing similar patterns in our life cycle and that the Reapers seem to be the force that restarts the pattern

And, mind you, the VI did not speak discretely as to if the Reapers were subject to an intellgence or mearly some passive pattern, (i.e., evolutionary incidence). For all we know, the Reaper's, (or equivilants), could have risen and fallen numerous times before.

[HellishFiend]

I thought that he deleted the "I like green" tweet but kept the "red is not best" tweet?

[llbountyhunter]

llbountyhunter wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

im just wondering, how did the Protheans come to the conclusions that the cycles mean something is controlling the reapers?

"oh, it seems the reapers comes every 50K years to harvest everyone..... 50k years? why 50K? that too much of a coincidence- clearly theyre servants of a higher power"

I mean mean I follow a similar pattern every day.... does that mean Im being controlled as well??????

There was said more than that. Patterns in the evolution of species, conflicts etc. were all too similar.

thats because their evolutionary paths were guided by the reapers.... the mass relays, citadel, etc.  they were forced down the same path- it was hardly a coincidence 

I still dont see any exterior inlfience.

harbinger: "you exsist because we allow, and you will fall because we demand it"

[TheConstantOne]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, Spotless came to me, begging for one of my information bomb posts to get us back on subject, but unfortunately I have a scholarly paper to write for linguistics, and unfortunately, I've run out of new info to look at for the time being.

That and to be honest, Gamble's comments about the ending o his twitter have kind of discouraged me. It seems very like he is in favor of a literalist ending, and the people caliming that he is merely speculating "as a fan" like Merizan does little to comfort me.

But, tell ya all what. When I've finished my scholarly paper, I'll go back and add the new additions to my ending script and give you guys a screening, how's that sound?

You that bummed over Gambles twitter? You once said it might be a dual ending for casual and hardcore fans. You don't think he might just be pandering to that side? Also, if they are still trying to keep the lid from completely blowing off IDT, wouldn't this fit in with their attempt at redirection without confirmation/denial? Being non prescriptive and what not...

Plus, just because he favors synthesis doesn't mean that destroy is an "unfavorable" ending.  The best ending is really up to you.  Gamble could favor a literal or more IT approach to the ending but, either way, I'd say wait for EC to come out and see what the ending actually becomes before judging it