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Golferguy758 wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Gah. Am I the only one who's never seen the Matrix? I just... I just can't even look at Keanu Reeves after Johnny Mnemonic. That was a theatrical equivalent of brain cancer.
Watch the first one. It's quite good. Don't watch 2nd and 3rd ones unless you want to watched this happen:
Yea.. well.. BZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTTSimon_Says wrote...
Golferguy758 wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
..or in an elevator.
As long as it's not one where an obnoxious kid ruins my perfectly good hangover with whiny voice and terrible logic.
Psh. RGC's logic is infallible! How dare you question his artistic integrity!
Still obnoxious. And whiny.
Golferguy758 wrote...
Yea.. well.. BZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Or..perhaps his tone and intent is just BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION
...BZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
spotlessvoid wrote...
If TIM is capable of making Shepard shoot Anderson, why can't Harbinger make Shepard do anything? Seems to really imply that the whole sequence is unreal
Rifneno wrote...
Golferguy758 wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Gah. Am I the only one who's never seen the Matrix? I just... I just can't even look at Keanu Reeves after Johnny Mnemonic. That was a theatrical equivalent of brain cancer.
Watch the first one. It's quite good. Don't watch 2nd and 3rd ones unless you want to watched this happen:
Sounds familiar. I wonder how George Lucas figures into this one.
Golferguy758 wrote...
Lucas is actually Harbinger. He is the true puppet master of all the problems trilogies have had. He would no doubt have tried to influence LoTR, but Peter "Shepard" Jackson was able to fight him off.
TIM is controlled by the Reapers thus Shep is controlled by the Reapers.Simon_Says wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
If TIM is capable of making Shepard shoot Anderson, why can't Harbinger make Shepard do anything? Seems to really imply that the whole sequence is unreal
Because through Benezia and Paul Grayson we know that reaper control is obvious as coming from an external source.
Harbinger would be trying to convince Shepard to submit to indoctrination.
Ergo Harbinger wouldn't be so obvious. Also, in the Synthesis ending Shepard makes a mad dash for the beam. Who knows, maybe Harbinger helped him along.
Rifneno wrote...
Golferguy758 wrote...
Lucas is actually Harbinger. He is the true puppet master of all the problems trilogies have had. He would no doubt have tried to influence LoTR, but Peter "Shepard" Jackson was able to fight him off.
Come on now. Isn't that a little unfair? To Harbinger?
Modifié par Golferguy758, 27 avril 2012 - 04:12 .
MegumiAzusa wrote...
TIM is controlled by the Reapers thus Shep is controlled by the Reapers.
About Shep dashing: I made some assumption about that some time ago with comparing it to the others:
Control: Shep slowly breaks down, not really able to hold on.
Synthesis: Shep goes into a zealous dash that exhausts his last strength.
Destroy: Shep magically regains his/her strength and willpower and stands strong.
I loled about that.Golferguy758 wrote...
Why do you think Shep walks so slow at the end. Walk of shame, man. Walk of shame.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
TIM is controlled by the Reapers thus Shep is controlled by the Reapers.
Modifié par Simon_Says, 27 avril 2012 - 04:14 .
Golferguy758 wrote...
After Harbinger borderline stalked me in ME2 and kept saying how much he wanted my body and then promptly hits it and quits it in the ending of ME3 without saying so much as a word to me he deserves my ire.
He doesn't even buy Shepard dinner or anything. <_<MegumiAzusa wrote...
I loled about that.Golferguy758 wrote...
Why do you think Shep walks so slow at the end. Walk of shame, man. Walk of shame.
HellishFiend wrote...
Golferguy758 wrote...
After Harbinger borderline stalked me in ME2 and kept saying how much he wanted my body and then promptly hits it and quits it in the ending of ME3 without saying so much as a word to me he deserves my ire.
LOL! I'd go so far as to say that is sigworthy!
Simon_Says wrote...
I interpreted TIM as being more a mental projection from Shepard's mind than Harbinger's puppet image.
If we're gonna allow dreams as evidence*, well, in mine sometimes I do things I don't mean to do. Sometimes even if I'm lucid and aware what's going on is a dream (though that usually triggers collapse of awareness).
Dreams are funny things.
*I'm sure Saren would disapprove.
Either way, if it's all a mental projection Shep still thinks TIM is controlled by the Reapers, and TIM controlling Shep would mean in his/her feeble state of mind Shep would allow the Reapers to control him/herself.Simon_Says wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
TIM is controlled by the Reapers thus Shep is controlled by the Reapers.
I interpreted TIM as being more a mental projection from Shepard's mind than Harbinger's puppet image.
If we're gonna allow dreams as evidence*, well, in mine sometimes I do things I don't mean to do. Sometimes even if I'm lucid and aware what's going on is a dream (though that usually triggers collapse of awareness).
Dreams are funny things.
*I'm sure Saren would disapprove.
Simon_Says wrote...
He doesn't even buy Shepard dinner or anything. <_<MegumiAzusa wrote...
I loled about that.Golferguy758 wrote...
Why do you think Shep walks so slow at the end. Walk of shame, man. Walk of shame.
Golferguy758 wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
He doesn't even buy Shepard dinner or anything. <_<MegumiAzusa wrote...
I loled about that.Golferguy758 wrote...
Why do you think Shep walks so slow at the end. Walk of shame, man. Walk of shame.
I wouldn't say that.... He kind of bought me dinner. Or at least fed me. I definitely got a plate full of steaming BS shoved down my throat by starkid.
<_<
HellishFiend wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
I interpreted TIM as being more a mental projection from Shepard's mind than Harbinger's puppet image.
If we're gonna allow dreams as evidence*, well, in mine sometimes I do things I don't mean to do. Sometimes even if I'm lucid and aware what's going on is a dream (though that usually triggers collapse of awareness).
Dreams are funny things.
*I'm sure Saren would disapprove.
That gives me an idea that almost makes me wish I were a troll. I'd go into pro-ender/anti-IT topics and say things like "Are we allowing ________ into evidence now? How can I defend IT against this kind of testimony?"
The kid, though real at first, is just an Avatar for the people Shep couldn't save.pirate1802 wrote...
I was thinking, what is the implications of the dreams Shepard is having? Certainly she has seen much more terrible things than a kid dying. Why this one kid would haunt her so much? This isn't a psychological horror game where these kinds of tricks are used. Using a nightmare in a ME game is just out of place unless it serves some other purpose.
Also, on the third and final dream; There are two Shepards. One who is chasing the kid and the other whom the kid finds at the end; that Shepard looks at you (the other Shepard) then the kid and she burns. Could it signify Shepard finally giving in to indoctrination? In the earlier dreams the kid would bun alone, now Shepard is burning too.
All this has surely been discussing before, I'm just trying to figure things out by myself xD
pirate1802 wrote...
I was thinking, what is the implications of the dreams Shepard is having? Certainly she has seen much more terrible things than a kid dying. Why this one kid would haunt her so much? This isn't a psychological horror game where these kinds of tricks are used. Using a nightmare in a ME game is just out of place unless it serves some other purpose.
Also, on the third and final dream; There are two Shepards. One who is chasing the kid and the other whom the kid finds at the end; that Shepard looks at you (the other Shepard) then the kid and she burns. Could it signify Shepard finally giving in to indoctrination? In the earlier dreams the kid would bun alone, now Shepard is burning too.
All this has surely been discussing before, I'm just trying to figure things out by myself xD
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