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Simon_Says

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estebanus wrote...

Nah, I don't think so. The reapers have been in existence for at LEAST 37 million years, and I don't see how a plant could have lived that long.


Look up the Immortal Jellyfish. Aging and death are not hard and true realities for all organic life.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 27 avril 2012 - 04:12 .


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waldstr18

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estebanus wrote...

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@simon_says

i have no problem with him. he just doesnt like me. i respect that.



I have no personal quarrel with you. I just disagree with you.

I do however, respect your opinion.

If I made the assertion that I don't like you, I apologize, for that wasn't my intent.


thats very nice of you, but actually im the one who has to apologize. i didnt make clear who i was talking about. rest assured, i didnt me you, but that other guy who left because of me.

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waldstr18 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

@simon_says

i have no problem with him. he just doesnt like me. i respect that.



I have no personal quarrel with you. I just disagree with you.

I do however, respect your opinion.

If I made the assertion that I don't like you, I apologize, for that wasn't my intent.





thats very nice of you, but actually im the one who has to apologize. i didnt make clear who i was talking about. rest assured, i didnt me you, but that other guy who left because of me.



Ah, sorry then.

Modifié par estebanus, 27 avril 2012 - 04:12 .


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Humakt83 wrote...


While I support IT, I do not think that proves anything in either way. Merizan is hardly a palpable source of information.

So true.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

oooooh, look at this tweet...

https://twitter.com/...619323212070912

*grumbles* motherfrakking Twitter... *further unintelligible cursing* ...
I hate Twitter, really, deactivated my personal ME Twitter coverage, the stress on my sanity is too severe.

She says, about things like this "it's my personal opinion" but...but why keep delivering these things as ****ing fact >_< *punches self in face repeatedly* don't even get me started on Gamble... I think I'm gonna go cry in the corner over here.

Modifié par Nauks, 27 avril 2012 - 04:15 .


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DJBare wrote...

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oooooh, look at this tweet...

https://twitter.com/...619323212070912

Inb4 the sh*t storm.


While I support IT, I do not think that proves anything in either way. Merizan is hardly a palpable source of information.


I agree. Even with the face-value ending, destroy is the only option where Shep's body could "survive". Yet  the "you'd want the destroy option" is quite intriguing...

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Does your save file record what choice you make at the end?

I can't seem to find exactly where it was mentioned but yes. Someone found that three plot flags are triggered in the save file made after you've chosen destroy. But none if you picked either control or synthesis. The flags point to nowhere, yet, and I don't think anyone else confirmed this, but it's something.


http://social.biowar...3/1629#11584462

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I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.

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DJBare wrote...

estebanus wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

oooooh, look at this tweet...

https://twitter.com/...619323212070912



Oh... my god...

faith in indoctrination theory= HARDENED!!!:o

I would not really say that, but it does bring to question the synthesis ending which some players believe is the best ending.



Yeah, I may have overreacted there, but I really could use some good news today, since I just found out that my brother was hit by a car today and that he's in the hospital right now.

Modifié par estebanus, 27 avril 2012 - 04:18 .


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Ravel1992 wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Does your save file record what choice you make at the end?

I can't seem to find exactly where it was mentioned but yes. Someone found that three plot flags are triggered in the save file made after you've chosen destroy. But none if you picked either control or synthesis. The flags point to nowhere, yet, and I don't think anyone else confirmed this, but it's something.


http://social.biowar...3/1629#11584462


Thank you! Has this info been verified by more than one person?

Sorry for asking these things, I only have this on XBOX.

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balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.


now its our fault, your fantasies wont come true?

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waldstr18 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.


now its our fault, your fantasies wont come true?



I don't think he was being honest.

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waldstr18 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.


now its our fault, your fantasies wont come true?


well it could be. bioware said they listen to feedback, and if a overwhelming amount of people despise it, and bioware feels that they would lose more if they go with it- then theyll probably change there plans and not go with IT


but hopefully that wont happen......

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 27 avril 2012 - 04:24 .


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balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.


You might be onto something, perhaps they liked it so much is because they themselves have become indoctrinated to think control or synthesis is the only way and are there for actively trying to stop us from defeating the Reapers (&ME3)!

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Who in there right mind would choose to die because a little boy tells you something will happen afterward? Someone very gullible me thinks!

#45441
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estebanus wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.


now its our fault, your fantasies wont come true?



I don't think he was being honest.


Yeah, it was a joke about silly heads. I.T. will happen no matter what if Bioware wants anyone to buy future products.

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balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.


Actually, I'd like to play the DLC as indoctrinated Shepard when picking synthesis or control.

I'm all for destroy ending and I'm happy if I'm able to continue that way. But I think the other two choices shouldn't be omitted.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.


now its our fault, your fantasies wont come true?


well it could be. bioware said they listen to feedback, if a overwhelming amount of people despise it, and bioware feels that they would lose more if they go with it- then theyll probably change there plans and not go with IT


but hopefully that wont happen......


i actually thought the same thing about the feedback you are giving. but one of you mentioned that you are the minority here. how am i going to enjoy the face rubbing, when you arent convinced at all that your theory is false?

i hope you chose the high road, just like i would if i was wrong and accept the i told you so responses without back talk.

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Nauks wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

oooooh, look at this tweet...

https://twitter.com/...619323212070912

*grumbles* motherfrakking Twitter... *further unintelligible cursing* ...
I hate Twitter, really, deactivated my personal ME Twitter coverage, the stress on my sanity is too severe.

She says, about things like this "it's my personal opinion" but...but why keep delivering these things as ****ing fact >_< *punches self in face repeatedly* don't even get me started on Gamble... I think I'm gonna go cry in the corner over here.



It should be noted that Jessica could well be referring to the games current destroy ending, the person posing the question did not specify
"So it will only be destroy in which shepard can survive and save the normandy crew at this point, right?"
We know this is possible in the current game.

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Sero303 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.


You might be onto something, perhaps they liked it so much is because they themselves have become indoctrinated to think control or synthesis is the only way and are there for actively trying to stop us from defeating the Reapers (&ME3)!


That's that META stuff that makes me like I.T. so much! I get to fight with Sarens and TIMs and other inodctrinated folks from around the world!

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estebanus wrote...

DJBare wrote...

estebanus wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

oooooh, look at this tweet...

https://twitter.com/...619323212070912



Oh... my god...

faith in indoctrination theory= HARDENED!!!:o

I would not really say that, but it does bring to question the synthesis ending which some players believe is the best ending.



Yeah, I may have overreacted there, but I really could use some good news today, since I just found out that my brother was hit by a car today and that he's in the hospital right now.


Somhow this sounds tooo good to be true... but if it is true... it supports IDT :o

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balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.

Why should the opinions of fans stand in the way of "artistic integrity"

I'll just get my coat.

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waldstr18 wrote...

i actually thought the same thing about the feedback you are giving. but one of you mentioned that you are the minority here. how am i going to enjoy the face rubbing, when you arent convinced at all that your theory is false?

i hope you chose the high road, just like i would if i was wrong and accept the i told you so responses without back talk.


Based on your previous posts, I don't think you would know where the high road is....

#45449
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DJBare wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.

Why should the opinions of fans stand in the way of "artistic integrity"

I'll just get my coat.


Ah HAA! There you go! I'm not worried, Bioware still has my faith at least til the EC arrives.

Modifié par balance5050, 27 avril 2012 - 04:31 .


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llbountyhunter wrote...

oooooh, look at this tweet...

https://twitter.com/...619323212070912


Hey guys.

I am sick of Jessica (no offense to her as a person - I'm just sick of her tweets).  What is the point of her tweets?  In the over-all scheme of Bioware, she is pretty far down on the totem-pole, so I SERIOUSLY doubt that the Bioware brass gave her the okay to be the ONE person that is "officially" able to give the fans some hints about the ending (by officially, I mean that she is approved by Bioware execs to be leaking info).

Whyt aren't Mike or Casey giving these "riddle" tweets, if they are indeed sanctioned by Bioware?  They would have a lot more impact and interest from the fans if a bigger name in the company was making these tweets. 

It just seems like she knows nothing and is starving for attention.