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[Baldsake]

Humakt83 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.

Actually, I'd like to play the DLC as indoctrinated Shepard when picking synthesis or control.

I'm all for destroy ending and I'm happy if I'm able to continue that way. But I think the other two choices shouldn't be omitted.

Yeah, what's the point of having 3 choices for an ending, with 2 of them being useless.. I mean who's going to pick control or synthesis if destroy is the only choice that continues in the DLC.

Modifié par Baldsake, 27 avril 2012 - 04:32 .

[Vahilor]

waldstr18 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.

now its our fault, your fantasies wont come true?

well it could be. bioware said they listen to feedback, if a overwhelming amount of people despise it, and bioware feels that they would lose more if they go with it- then theyll probably change there plans and not go with IT


but hopefully that wont happen......

i actually thought the same thing about the feedback you are giving. but one of you mentioned that you are the minority here. how am i going to enjoy the face rubbing, when you arent convinced at all that your theory is false?

i hope you chose the high road, just like i would if i was wrong and accept the i told you so responses without back talk.

The big anti-ending majority are the retakers ^^ and a lot of retakers would either go with IDT than with the face vakue.. if they have to chose... cause if the only add stuff without IDT.. I suggest there will be an uproar again.

[balance5050]

Humakt83 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.

Actually, I'd like to play the DLC as indoctrinated Shepard when picking synthesis or control.

I'm all for destroy ending and I'm happy if I'm able to continue that way. But I think the other two choices shouldn't be omitted.

You see, that's awsome! An ending where you are indoctrinated, but you still kind of influence the reapers or something.

You rule the Galaxy with an iron fist, as the avatar of the reapers!!

[waldstr18]

balance5050 wrote...

Yeah, it was a joke about silly heads. I.T. will happen no matter what if Bioware wants anyone to buy future products.

dont start throwing rocks at me again, but to me that sounds very pretentious.

i hate to bring it up again, but the idt would mean bioware gave us an unfinished game. people already went crazy because of the day 1 dlc. what do you think will happen if they find out they didnt get the full game? the customers will just figure they only made the dlc availabe for free to counter the backlash they got from the ending. they will always have the thought in their mind that bioware actually intended to charge them for the real ending. i dont think bioware wants that. they have to juggle enough variables as is.

[Unschuld]

balance5050 wrote...

You see, that's awsome! An ending where you are indoctrinated, but you still kind of influence the reapers or something.

You rule the Galaxy with an iron fist, as the avatar of the reapers!!

Then Javik comes up from behind and slits your throat.

[llbountyhunter]

Baldsake wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.

Actually, I'd like to play the DLC as indoctrinated Shepard when picking synthesis or control.

I'm all for destroy ending and I'm happy if I'm able to continue that way. But I think the other two choices shouldn't be omitted.

Yeah, what's the point of having 3 choices for an ending, with 2 of them being useless.. I mean who's going to pick control or synthesis if destroy is the only choice that continues in the DLC.

well having three options where only one works is hardly something new- its been done before. (maybe just a few cinematic for those options.)

besides defeating the reapers shouldnt be THAT easy- "oh its ok, you will win no matter which option you choose!!!!!"

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 27 avril 2012 - 04:44 .

[Simon_Says]

Ravel1992 wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Does your save file record what choice you make at the end?

I can't seem to find exactly where it was mentioned but yes. Someone found that three plot flags are triggered in the save file made after you've chosen destroy. But none if you picked either control or synthesis. The flags point to nowhere, yet, and I don't think anyone else confirmed this, but it's something.

http://social.biowar...3/1629#11584462

Thanks. I'd really like to know how this guy found this out so someone (maybe myself) could confirm it.

[balance5050]

I'm also kind of hoping for a scene where your squad mate tries to break your indoctrination.

It would be epic to have to choose Garrus' or Liara's dialogue!

[Vahilor]

waldstr18 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Yeah, it was a joke about silly heads. I.T. will happen no matter what if Bioware wants anyone to buy future products.

dont start throwing rocks at me again, but to me that sounds very pretentious.

i hate to bring it up again, but the idt would mean bioware gave us an unfinished game. people already went crazy because of the day 1 dlc. what do you think will happen if they find out they didnt get the full game? the customers will just figure they only made the dlc availabe for free to counter the backlash they got from the ending. they will always have the thought in their mind that bioware actually intended to charge them for the real ending. i dont think bioware wants that. they have to juggle enough variables as is.

They will even more freak out if the ending DLC only explains cause the ending is crap... cause explained crap.. still is crap...

[IronSabbath88]

This is what happens in gaming nowadays, a company possibly tries something new that's never been done before and they get crapped all over for it.

Honestly, even if IT isn't true, the way the fanbase has been acting towards BioWare is disgusting. It's free DLC we're getting and people are still crying foul to BioWare and treating the devs and such like pure trash.

It's one thing to not be happy, fine, show that by not supporting the products anymore, but don't trash the devs because that makes us ALL look bad.

[llbountyhunter]

double post

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 27 avril 2012 - 04:40 .

[Nauks]

DJBare wrote...

Nauks wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

oooooh, look at this tweet...

https://twitter.com/...619323212070912

*grumbles* motherfrakking Twitter... *further unintelligible cursing* ...
I hate Twitter, really, deactivated my personal ME Twitter coverage, the stress on my sanity is too severe.

She says, about things like this "it's my personal opinion" but...but why keep delivering these things as ****ing fact >_< *punches self in face repeatedly* don't even get me started on Gamble... I think I'm gonna go cry in the corner over here.

It should be noted that Jessica could well be referring to the games current destroy ending, the person posing the question did not specify
"So it will only be destroy in which shepard can survive and save the normandy crew at this point, right?"
We know this is possible in the current game.

Oh I definitely think she's referring to the current ending, that's what pisses me off, it's her assumption of what happens next.
We don't actually know, and if the game really ends on a cliffhanger like this, and we're supposed to imagine what happens next, it would be such an enormous dick move.

[ExtendedCut]

waldstr18 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.

now its our fault, your fantasies wont come true?

well it could be. bioware said they listen to feedback, if a overwhelming amount of people despise it, and bioware feels that they would lose more if they go with it- then theyll probably change there plans and not go with IT


but hopefully that wont happen......

i actually thought the same thing about the feedback you are giving. but one of you mentioned that you are the minority here. how am i going to enjoy the face rubbing, when you arent convinced at all that your theory is false?

i hope you chose the high road, just like i would if i was wrong and accept the i told you so responses without back talk.

I'm not sure what you're saying here - it seems like you're saying that taking the "high road" is to believe that Bioware really is a crappy company(?).   Maybe I misinterpreted.

I'm not sure that I would describe the hope that a company really is terrible, as the the "high road".

[waldstr18]

balance5050 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i actually thought the same thing about the feedback you are giving. but one of you mentioned that you are the minority here. how am i going to enjoy the face rubbing, when you arent convinced at all that your theory is false?

i hope you chose the high road, just like i would if i was wrong and accept the i told you so responses without back talk.

Based on your previous posts, I don't think you would know where the high road is....

i actually said somewhere before the 1000th page that i will gladly accept anything you throw at me, if bioware should go with idt, even though i would also think its just because of you guys. but what i think doesnt matter then, bioware dictates the truth and we all have to accept it in the end.

[estebanus]

balance5050 wrote...

I'm also kind of hoping for a scene where your squad mate tries to break your indoctrination.

It would be epic to have to choose Garrus' or Liara's dialogue!

Maybe a scene where your LI or anderson blows off your head, and then they finish the job!

[Vahilor]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

This is what happens in gaming nowadays, a company possibly tries something new that's never been done before and they get crapped all over for it.

Honestly, even if IT isn't true, the way the fanbase has been acting towards BioWare is disgusting. It's free DLC we're getting and people are still crying foul to BioWare and treating the devs and such like pure trash.

It's one thing to not be happy, fine, show that by not supporting the products anymore, but don't trash the devs because that makes us ALL look bad.

Only cause somthing is free it has not to be good.. and they told us they do take care for the fanbase and what the fanbase sais.. and if the take the ending still as face value.. al they did is lying to us again..

[waldstr18]

high road (in this case) = accept the dlc bioware is going to give us as the truth, and not something they just did, because the anti idt guys wanted them to.

or the other way around. in my case: accept the dlc if its idt, and dont complain about them only doing it because of all the nice youtube videso you guys put up.

Modifié par waldstr18, 27 avril 2012 - 04:42 .

[Nauks]

ExtendedCut wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

-snip-

I'm not sure what you're saying here - it seems like you're saying that taking the "high road" is to believe that Bioware really is a crappy company(?).   Maybe I misinterpreted.

I'm not sure that I would describe the hope that a company really is terrible, as the the "high road".

Don't bother feeding that it, otherwhise it will never go away.

[balance5050]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Baldsake wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.

Actually, I'd like to play the DLC as indoctrinated Shepard when picking synthesis or control.

I'm all for destroy ending and I'm happy if I'm able to continue that way. But I think the other two choices shouldn't be omitted.

Yeah, what's the point of having 3 choices for an ending, with 2 of them being useless.. I mean who's going to pick control or synthesis if destroy is the only choice that continues in the DLC.

well having three options where only one works is hardly something new- its been done before. (maybe just a few cinematic for those options.)

besides defeating the reapers should be THAT easy- "oh it ok, you will win nomatter which option you choose!!!!!"

I wish there were MORE wrong choices! What I mean is that I wish there were more conversations where you had to carefully choose what you say or face immediate consequences.

Like, I was just playing Witcher 2 and I was talking with this elf, I had arrows pointing at me in all directions. I chose a reply that basically insulted him and I got blasted with arrows - I got a game over but was impressed that the game would do that when there are so many other games that coddle you.

[Unschuld]

waldstr18 wrote...

dont start throwing rocks at me again, but to me that sounds very pretentious.

i hate to bring it up again, but the idt would mean bioware gave us an unfinished game. people already went crazy because of the day 1 dlc. what do you think will happen if they find out they didnt get the full game? the customers will just figure they only made the dlc availabe for free to counter the backlash they got from the ending. they will always have the thought in their mind that bioware actually intended to charge them for the real ending. i dont think bioware wants that. they have to juggle enough variables as is.

I could actually care less, to be honest. For me it would be on the same level as ME2 being sold with Arrival as separate content (which was, essentially, the final act of ME2. Too bad the bridge they intended to create to ME3 needs some repairs). Despite the principal of selling an "incomplete game", I'd personally see the cliffhanger and ambiguously confusing ending to be brilliant in that it hoodwinked so many fans. That's just me, though. I like mind games, and I like symbolism/metaphor. Obviously, there's a lot of pissed off people out there that don't like clever ruses and want everything presented to them at face value, fully complete 100% of the time.

This is of course assuming that the EC actually explains the current endings well, or if IT turns out to be valid. I'm all for personal interpretation to fill in some blanks, but it only goes so far.

Modifié par Unschuld, 27 avril 2012 - 04:46 .

[ExtendedCut]

balance5050 wrote...

I'm also kind of hoping for a scene where your squad mate tries to break your indoctrination.

It would be epic to have to choose Garrus' or Liara's dialogue!

That would be awesome! 

One the main things I hate about the ending (in addition to the plot holes, lack of choice, etc, etc) is that your squadmates have been with you for the entire run of the Mass Effect trilogy (except Arrival, I guess), and then suddenly at the end, they are gone and pretty much irrelevant to the ending.

[balance5050]

estebanus wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I'm also kind of hoping for a scene where your squad mate tries to break your indoctrination.

It would be epic to have to choose Garrus' or Liara's dialogue!

Maybe a scene where your LI or anderson blows off your head, and then they finish the job!

Makes sense because they give Anderson a full skill tree, even though it's vega's. It also makes sence because they have the Asari and Turien mechanics down through multi player.

Modifié par balance5050, 27 avril 2012 - 04:46 .

[Vahilor]

balance5050 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Baldsake wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.

Actually, I'd like to play the DLC as indoctrinated Shepard when picking synthesis or control.

I'm all for destroy ending and I'm happy if I'm able to continue that way. But I think the other two choices shouldn't be omitted.

Yeah, what's the point of having 3 choices for an ending, with 2 of them being useless.. I mean who's going to pick control or synthesis if destroy is the only choice that continues in the DLC.

well having three options where only one works is hardly something new- its been done before. (maybe just a few cinematic for those options.)

besides defeating the reapers should be THAT easy- "oh it ok, you will win nomatter which option you choose!!!!!"

I wish there were MORE wrong choices! What I mean is that I wish there were more conversations where you had to carefully choose what you say or face immediate consequences.

Like, I was just playing Witcher 2 and I was talking with this elf, I had arrows pointing at me in all directions. I chose a reply that basically insulted him and I got blasted with arrows - I got a game over but was impressed that the game would do that when there are so many other games that coddle you.

I agree.. I like it if you are able to chose wrong in endings.. makes it more interessting and worth making more playthroughs only to see what happens.
YOu are probably still able to save somthing or you end up totaly srewd.. I think that would be somthing pretty cool to see what could happen if....

[IronSabbath88]

Unschuld wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

dont start throwing rocks at me again, but to me that sounds very pretentious.

i hate to bring it up again, but the idt would mean bioware gave us an unfinished game. people already went crazy because of the day 1 dlc. what do you think will happen if they find out they didnt get the full game? the customers will just figure they only made the dlc availabe for free to counter the backlash they got from the ending. they will always have the thought in their mind that bioware actually intended to charge them for the real ending. i dont think bioware wants that. they have to juggle enough variables as is.

I could actually care less, to be honest. For me it would be on the same level as ME2 being sold with Arrival as separate content (which was, essentially, the final act of ME2. Too bad the bridge they intended to create to ME3 needs some repairs). Despite the principal of selling an "incomplete game", I'd personally see the cliffhanger and ambiguously confusing ending to be brilliant in that it hoodwinked so many fans. That's just me, though. I like mind games, and I like symbolism/metaphor. Obviously, there's a lot of pissed off people out there that don't like clever ruses and want everything presented to them at face value, fully complete 100% of the time.

And a lot of those are the same people who complained about Fallout 3 despite it being a fantastic game throughout. It's the same deal with ME3, FANTASTIC game throughout, regardless of what some people will tell you. It's an amazing game. The ending is a cliffhanger but that doesnt mean we wont get answers. I don't see people complaining that Fallout 3 charged them for an ending extension, but you can bet people are complaining about a FREE EXTENSION for Mass Effect 3.

Have I mentioned how much I've grown to loathe the ME fanbase?

[estebanus]

balance5050 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Baldsake wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.

Actually, I'd like to play the DLC as indoctrinated Shepard when picking synthesis or control.

I'm all for destroy ending and I'm happy if I'm able to continue that way. But I think the other two choices shouldn't be omitted.

Yeah, what's the point of having 3 choices for an ending, with 2 of them being useless.. I mean who's going to pick control or synthesis if destroy is the only choice that continues in the DLC.

well having three options where only one works is hardly something new- its been done before. (maybe just a few cinematic for those options.)

besides defeating the reapers should be THAT easy- "oh it ok, you will win nomatter which option you choose!!!!!"

I wish there were MORE wrong choices! What I mean is that I wish there were more conversations where you had to carefully choose what you say or face immediate consequences.

Like, I was just playing Witcher 2 and I was talking with this elf, I had arrows pointing at me in all directions. I chose a reply that basically insulted him and I got blasted with arrows - I got a game over but was impressed that the game would do that when there are so many other games that coddle you.

Witcher 2 is awesome!