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Uncle Jo wrote...
I agree. Even with the face-value ending, destroy is the only option where Shep's body could "survive". Yet the "you'd want the destroy option" is quite intriguing...Humakt83 wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Inb4 the sh*t storm.llbountyhunter wrote...
oooooh, look at this tweet...
https://twitter.com/...619323212070912
While I support IT, I do not think that proves anything in either way. Merizan is hardly a palpable source of information.
IronSabbath88 wrote...
Unschuld wrote...
waldstr18 wrote...
dont start throwing rocks at me again, but to me that sounds very pretentious.
i hate to bring it up again, but the idt would mean bioware gave us an unfinished game. people already went crazy because of the day 1 dlc. what do you think will happen if they find out they didnt get the full game? the customers will just figure they only made the dlc availabe for free to counter the backlash they got from the ending. they will always have the thought in their mind that bioware actually intended to charge them for the real ending. i dont think bioware wants that. they have to juggle enough variables as is.
I could actually care less, to be honest. For me it would be on the same level as ME2 being sold with Arrival as separate content (which was, essentially, the final act of ME2. Too bad the bridge they intended to create to ME3 needs some repairs). Despite the principal of selling an "incomplete game", I'd personally see the cliffhanger and ambiguously confusing ending to be brilliant in that it hoodwinked so many fans. That's just me, though. I like mind games, and I like symbolism/metaphor. Obviously, there's a lot of pissed off people out there that don't like clever ruses and want everything presented to them at face value, fully complete 100% of the time.
And a lot of those are the same people who complained about Fallout 3 despite it being a fantastic game throughout. It's the same deal with ME3, FANTASTIC game throughout, regardless of what some people will tell you. It's an amazing game. The ending is a cliffhanger but that doesnt mean we wont get answers. I don't see people complaining that Fallout 3 charged them for an ending extension, but you can bet people are complaining about a FREE EXTENSION for Mass Effect 3.
Have I mentioned how much I've grown to loathe the ME fanbase?
Rosewind wrote...
Mine was a male one Called Mister Fluffy-kins
Uncle Jo wrote...
It's always a pleasure to read you. I like your style and the way you think even if I sometimes disagree with you...
Anyways, I find your agumentation very coherent and will not argue with you on this point. You're absolutely right, the Prothean way to rule the Galaxy was nothing but disgusting and made them deserve somehow what the Reapers did to them. They've finally found something that is stronger than them and follows the same logic... Irony of fate..
That's always the problem with totalitarian systems, they brainwash everyone, first of all their own people and don't let them question any further... "arrogance/confidence is born of ignorance" ...
What Javik's saying/thinking about the other races made me at first want to shoot him between his "four eyes". But I tried to understand why he's such a "****" a**hole...
He's born without the possibility to compare by himself and he was a soldier, not a scientist. He knew no other "normality" than that what he was told, teached and genuinely believed it. To us it seems scandalous because we're grown in another time with other rules and have learned eventually that there's always another way... His thought about the AI were conditioned by the fact that there was no peaceful solution to the conflict with the synthetic race of their time (don't remember what was the name) and the war with the Reapers (which are also part organics, if I'm not wrong) They didn't have a Shepard
Furthermore a short journey like ME3 is way not enough to get over a brainwash. To me, there were signs of a positive evolution. Only time will teach us, if he eventually stopped to be an arrogant fascist.. If not I'll personally shop his head off
If you're judging and condemning the Prothean system, I'm with you. Not if you're only considering one Prothean.
Simon_Says wrote...
Uh, I was there when you two had your thing, remember? Just get a room and work it out.
estebanus wrote...
Nah, I don't think so. The reapers have been in existence for at LEAST 37 million years, and I don't see how a plant could have lived that long.
Yeah, I may have overreacted there, but I really could use some good news today, since I just found out that my brother was hit by a car today and that he's in the hospital right now.
IronSabbath88 wrote...
This is what happens in gaming nowadays, a company possibly tries something new that's never been done before and they get crapped all over for it.
Honestly, even if IT isn't true, the way the fanbase has been acting towards BioWare is disgusting. It's free DLC we're getting and people are still crying foul to BioWare and treating the devs and such like pure trash.
It's one thing to not be happy, fine, show that by not supporting the products anymore, but don't trash the devs because that makes us ALL look bad.
But it IS that easy, you just walk up to your favorite choice and -poof-, it happens.. Don't act like there were any significantly hard choices in ME3.. There's no way the Reapers can win, even though BW promised that there would be.llbountyhunter wrote...
Baldsake wrote...
Yeah, what's the point of having 3 choices for an ending, with 2 of them being useless.. I mean who's going to pick control or synthesis if destroy is the only choice that continues in the DLC.Humakt83 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.
Actually, I'd like to play the DLC as indoctrinated Shepard when picking synthesis or control.
I'm all for destroy ending and I'm happy if I'm able to continue that way. But I think the other two choices shouldn't be omitted.
well having three options where only one works is hardly something new- its been done before. (maybe just a few cinematic for those options.)
besides defeating the reapers shouldnt be THAT easy- "oh its ok, you will win no matter which option you choose!!!!!"
IronSabbath88 wrote...
And a lot of those are the same people who complained about Fallout 3 despite it being a fantastic game throughout. It's the same deal with ME3, FANTASTIC game throughout, regardless of what some people will tell you. It's an amazing game. The ending is a cliffhanger but that doesnt mean we wont get answers. I don't see people complaining that Fallout 3 charged them for an ending extension, but you can bet people are complaining about a FREE EXTENSION for Mass Effect 3.
Have I mentioned how much I've grown to loathe the ME fanbase?
IronSabbath88 wrote...
Unschuld wrote...
waldstr18 wrote...
dont start throwing rocks at me again, but to me that sounds very pretentious.
i hate to bring it up again, but the idt would mean bioware gave us an unfinished game. people already went crazy because of the day 1 dlc. what do you think will happen if they find out they didnt get the full game? the customers will just figure they only made the dlc availabe for free to counter the backlash they got from the ending. they will always have the thought in their mind that bioware actually intended to charge them for the real ending. i dont think bioware wants that. they have to juggle enough variables as is.
I could actually care less, to be honest. For me it would be on the same level as ME2 being sold with Arrival as separate content (which was, essentially, the final act of ME2. Too bad the bridge they intended to create to ME3 needs some repairs). Despite the principal of selling an "incomplete game", I'd personally see the cliffhanger and ambiguously confusing ending to be brilliant in that it hoodwinked so many fans. That's just me, though. I like mind games, and I like symbolism/metaphor. Obviously, there's a lot of pissed off people out there that don't like clever ruses and want everything presented to them at face value, fully complete 100% of the time.
And a lot of those are the same people who complained about Fallout 3 despite it being a fantastic game throughout. It's the same deal with ME3, FANTASTIC game throughout, regardless of what some people will tell you. It's an amazing game. The ending is a cliffhanger but that doesnt mean we wont get answers. I don't see people complaining that Fallout 3 charged them for an ending extension, but you can bet people are complaining about a FREE EXTENSION for Mass Effect 3.
Have I mentioned how much I've grown to loathe the ME fanbase?
estebanus wrote...
waldstr18 wrote...
StElmo wrote...
Has anyone examined star child (with photoshop) to see if he really smiles during the control and synthesis endings?
Curious because that could be some compelling evidence right there.
what would be so compelling about that? maybe he just likes shepard choosing the paragon option.
not that im saying he is smiling, which he isnt. but its no evidence either way.
I still don't see how embracing your worst enemy's philosophy and morals is paragon!
That's full-on renegade by definition!
paxxton wrote...
Uncle Jo wrote...
I agree. Even with the face-value ending, destroy is the only option where Shep's body could "survive". Yet the "you'd want the destroy option" is quite intriguing...Humakt83 wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Inb4 the sh*t storm.llbountyhunter wrote...
oooooh, look at this tweet...
https://twitter.com/...619323212070912
While I support IT, I do not think that proves anything in either way. Merizan is hardly a palpable source of information.
If it's not a sarcastic answer.
balance5050 wrote...
Like, I was just playing Witcher 2 and I was talking with this elf, I had arrows pointing at me in all directions. I chose a reply that basically insulted him and I got blasted with arrows - I got a game over but was impressed that the game would do that when there are so many other games that coddle you.
estebanus wrote...
Witcher 2 is awesome!
Baldsake wrote...
But it IS that easy, you just walk up to your favorite choice and -poof-, it happens.. Don't act like there were any significantly hard choices in ME3.. There's no way the Reapers can win, even though BW promised that there would be.llbountyhunter wrote...
Baldsake wrote...
Yeah, what's the point of having 3 choices for an ending, with 2 of them being useless.. I mean who's going to pick control or synthesis if destroy is the only choice that continues in the DLC.Humakt83 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
I think the people who actually like control and synthesis are tangentially keeping us from our indoctrination DLC.
Actually, I'd like to play the DLC as indoctrinated Shepard when picking synthesis or control.
I'm all for destroy ending and I'm happy if I'm able to continue that way. But I think the other two choices shouldn't be omitted.
well having three options where only one works is hardly something new- its been done before. (maybe just a few cinematic for those options.)
besides defeating the reapers shouldnt be THAT easy- "oh its ok, you will win no matter which option you choose!!!!!"
Rifneno wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
Like, I was just playing Witcher 2 and I was talking with this elf, I had arrows pointing at me in all directions. I chose a reply that basically insulted him and I got blasted with arrows - I got a game over but was impressed that the game would do that when there are so many other games that coddle you.
Iorveth: single-handedly justifying every racist human in the Witcher universe. Bravo, terrorist knife-ear.
balance5050 wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
Like, I was just playing Witcher 2 and I was talking with this elf, I had arrows pointing at me in all directions. I chose a reply that basically insulted him and I got blasted with arrows - I got a game over but was impressed that the game would do that when there are so many other games that coddle you.
Iorveth: single-handedly justifying every racist human in the Witcher universe. Bravo, terrorist knife-ear.
Yeah that's him, the name escaped me, just like the kingslayer!
balance5050 wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
Like, I was just playing Witcher 2 and I was talking with this elf, I had arrows pointing at me in all directions. I chose a reply that basically insulted him and I got blasted with arrows - I got a game over but was impressed that the game would do that when there are so many other games that coddle you.
Iorveth: single-handedly justifying every racist human in the Witcher universe. Bravo, terrorist knife-ear.
Yeah that's him, the name escaped me, just like the kingslayer!
Witcher 2 > Witcher > Skyrimllbountyhunter wrote...
Ive heard alot about witcher 2.... I dunno, should I pick it up? I just bought skyrim, so Im not sure.
Modifié par Simon_Says, 27 avril 2012 - 04:56 .
Simon_Says wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
Like, I was just playing Witcher 2 and I was talking with this elf, I had arrows pointing at me in all directions. I chose a reply that basically insulted him and I got blasted with arrows - I got a game over but was impressed that the game would do that when there are so many other games that coddle you.
Iorveth: single-handedly justifying every racist human in the Witcher universe. Bravo, terrorist knife-ear.
Yeah that's him, the name escaped me, just like the kingslayer!
Letho. Also, while this forum allows ME spoilers, let's not get into Witcher 2 eh? I still haven't finished it.
balance5050 wrote...
Yeah that's him, the name escaped me, just like the kingslayer!
Oh well, maybe the new extended edition adds some significant content.
pirate1802 wrote...
estebanus wrote...
waldstr18 wrote...
StElmo wrote...
Has anyone examined star child (with photoshop) to see if he really smiles during the control and synthesis endings?
Curious because that could be some compelling evidence right there.
what would be so compelling about that? maybe he just likes shepard choosing the paragon option.
not that im saying he is smiling, which he isnt. but its no evidence either way.
I still don't see how embracing your worst enemy's philosophy and morals is paragon!
That's full-on renegade by definition!
Because apparantly the control option ends the war, saves everyone while sacrificing yourself, while the renegade option kills the reapers while sacrificing a bunch of your ally synthetics. Taking the endings at face value ofcourse..
Simon_Says wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
Like, I was just playing Witcher 2 and I was talking with this elf, I had arrows pointing at me in all directions. I chose a reply that basically insulted him and I got blasted with arrows - I got a game over but was impressed that the game would do that when there are so many other games that coddle you.
Iorveth: single-handedly justifying every racist human in the Witcher universe. Bravo, terrorist knife-ear.
Yeah that's him, the name escaped me, just like the kingslayer!
Letho. Also, while this forum allows ME spoilers, let's not get into Witcher 2 eh? I still haven't finished it.
balance5050 wrote...
estebanus wrote...
Witcher 2 is awesome!
I'm glad I waited so long to play it. I REALLY needed a "pick me up" after ME3's non-ending. It's a beautiful game, CD project just needs to do their own space opera and my life would be complete.
Modifié par paxxton, 27 avril 2012 - 04:58 .
IronSabbath88 wrote...
Vahilor, no need for the hostility. I was referring to the fanbase in general which is what happens anyway since we get grouped in with all the idiots by everyone else. Chill out.
Secondly, I disagree with you, the Fallout 3 extension was incredibly convulted and only occured because people didn't like what they got. You went into a place with TONS of radiation. There's no way you should have survived, and really since Fallout isn't a continuing story arc of ONE character, why is it so important that the Lone Wanderer survive? Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Broken Steel, but I didn't find it necessary. I appreciate the perks, weapons and enemies that were added but the continuing story was ridiculous.
IronSabbath88 wrote...
Have I mentioned how much I've grown to loathe the ME fanbase?
Modifié par Humakt83, 27 avril 2012 - 05:00 .
llbountyhunter wrote...
I know how you guys hate twitter....but.
(oh there also part of a single conversation)
https://twitter.com/...586883470884864
https://twitter.com/...615830279589890
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