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[DTKT]

Another question.

Why didn't both leaked scripts mention the indoctrination of Shepard?

[balance5050]

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...


So it seems I'd be better off with the other half of the games in existence.

Yes... and EA sports.

That would be too extreme. I don't mind good story-telling.

If you don't like fantasy then you are missing out on some amazing storytelling then.

You do realise that some of the best rpg's from back in the day (Final fantasy, dragonquest, phantasy star) were first inspired by Gary Gygax's D&D rule set right?

[balance5050]

DTKT wrote...

Another question.

Why didn't both leaked scripts mention the indoctrination of Shepard?

Cause they were leaked while the writers were still writing the game. Don't forget Final Hours App.

[ExtendedCut]

byne wrote...


I'm fairly sure I've killed more ****s than have ever existed at this point.

LOL!  Now that was funny right there!

[DirtyPhoenix]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

In fairness, the Autosave function in ME1 was absolutely abysmal, on Xbox at least. But still, 5 hours does seem rather excessive. Unless the engine broke down and he had to get Wrex to push the Mako.

Lolol I tried imagining that xD

[ExtendedCut]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

If control was actually possible, then it is the best choice. Shepard doesn't become the next starchild, he replaces him.

What's the difference, exactly?

spotlessvoid wrote...

That would be your first and only MUSH!

Oh I don't know. You'd have had to headbutt them into submission in the first place just to get the leashes on...

Maybe I misunderstood, but it seemed like what was being implied was that Shepard would take on starchilds agenda and morals "continuing the cycle" (paraphrasing)

Replacing would mean Shepard would retain his own ideas and change course from starchild

But what would be the point for Shepard to control the Reapers if he DIDN'T go down the same path as the Starkid? 

Would he eventually realize that the Reapers are neccessary to "cleanse" the universe, like the Starkid claims? 

Or would he just use them as his own personal butlers and/or chauffers until the end of time?

[byne]

ExtendedCut wrote...

byne wrote...


I'm fairly sure I've killed more ****s than have ever existed at this point.

LOL!  Now that was funny right there!

Huh, I didnt realize until you quoted me that the forums censor that word.

When did the name of the german troops in WW2 become a word needing censorship?

Last I checked they censored that word in WoW too.

Its a good thing theres no saying about how forgetting history is bad or anything. I'm sure if we dont talk about them then they never existed!

Anyhow, thats the end of my random anti-censorship mini-rant.

Modifié par byne, 27 avril 2012 - 06:33 .

[paxxton]

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...


So it seems I'd be better off with the other half of the games in existence.

Yes... and EA sports.

That would be too extreme. I don't mind good story-telling.

If you don't like fantasy then you are missing out on some amazing storytelling then.

You do realise that some of the best rpg's from back in the day (Final fantasy, dragonquest, phantasy star) were first inspired by Gary Gygax's D&D rule set right?

I heard about Dungeons & Dragons. But does it impose a fantasy setting or just gameplay mechanics on a game that uses it?

[byne]

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...


So it seems I'd be better off with the other half of the games in existence.

Yes... and EA sports.

That would be too extreme. I don't mind good story-telling.

If you don't like fantasy then you are missing out on some amazing storytelling then.

You do realise that some of the best rpg's from back in the day (Final fantasy, dragonquest, phantasy star) were first inspired by Gary Gygax's D&D rule set right?

I heard about Dungeons & Dragons. But does it impose a fantasy setting or just gameplay mechanics on a game that uses it?

Well, KotOR used D&D combat mechanics I believe, and it was set in the Star Wars universe

[balance5050]

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...


So it seems I'd be better off with the other half of the games in existence.

Yes... and EA sports.

That would be too extreme. I don't mind good story-telling.

If you don't like fantasy then you are missing out on some amazing storytelling then.

You do realise that some of the best rpg's from back in the day (Final fantasy, dragonquest, phantasy star) were first inspired by Gary Gygax's D&D rule set right?

I heard about Dungeons & Dragons. But does it impose a fantasy setting or just gameplay mechanics on a game that uses it?

Stat based gaemplay lends itself more to fantasy, but can be transposed to fit any setting.

[ExtendedCut]

byne wrote...

ExtendedCut wrote...

byne wrote...


I'm fairly sure I've killed more ****s than have ever existed at this point.

LOL!  Now that was funny right there!

Huh, I didnt realize until you quoted me that the forums censor that word.

When did the name of the german troops in WW2 become a word needing censorship?

Last I checked they censored that word in WoW too.

Its a good thing theres no saying about how forgetting history is bad or anything. I'm sure if we dont talk about them then they never existed!

Anyhow, thats the end of my random anti-censorship mini-rant.

Yeah, I agree.  It is not a derogatory term - it IS the term that describes that particular movement at that time.  Lots of internet forums seem to censor that word though - doesn't make sense.

I wonder if you can say Castro on here.  I know Ozzie Guillen can't.

[Tirian Thorn]

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...


So it seems I'd be better off with the other half of the games in existence.

Yes... and EA sports.

That would be too extreme. I don't mind good story-telling.

If you don't like fantasy then you are missing out on some amazing storytelling then.

You do realise that some of the best rpg's from back in the day (Final fantasy, dragonquest, phantasy star) were first inspired by Gary Gygax's D&D rule set right?

I heard about Dungeons & Dragons. But does it impose a fantasy setting or just gameplay mechanics on a game that uses it?

It doesn't directly force you to use a fantasy setting, but if you're going to deviate, you will have to make up some of your own rules. 

[balance5050]

byne wrote...


Well, KotOR used D&D combat mechanics I believe, and it was set in the Star Wars universe

Ahh, but is Starwars sci-fi or fantasy? Hard to say IMO.

[Tirian Thorn]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...


So it seems I'd be better off with the other half of the games in existence.

Yes... and EA sports.

That would be too extreme. I don't mind good story-telling.

If you don't like fantasy then you are missing out on some amazing storytelling then.

You do realise that some of the best rpg's from back in the day (Final fantasy, dragonquest, phantasy star) were first inspired by Gary Gygax's D&D rule set right?

I heard about Dungeons & Dragons. But does it impose a fantasy setting or just gameplay mechanics on a game that uses it?

Well, KotOR used D&D combat mechanics I believe, and it was set in the Star Wars universe

Wizards of the Coast - same group that has the license to D&D - made a complete Star Wars set of rules based on D&D's D20 system. 

There were a lot of variances, but the core was the same. 

[Tirian Thorn]

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...


Well, KotOR used D&D combat mechanics I believe, and it was set in the Star Wars universe

Ahh, but is Starwars sci-fi or fantasy? Hard to say IMO.

Star Wars is a Western   Documentary. Duh! 

Modifié par Tirian Thorn, 27 avril 2012 - 06:40 .

[Sammuthegreat]

byne wrote...
Its a good thing theres no saying about how forgetting history is bad or anything. I'm sure if we dont talk about them then they never existed!

Dude, you should come to Spain... I'm here for a couple of months at the moment, found out this week about a recent case that's surfaced from the Franco dictatorship in the mid-20th century. Basically lots of poor people had babies, and their doctors told them that the babies had died, and then sold the children off to rich buyers who didn't want to have babies the natural way, sales which were as far as I know sanctioned and even brokered by members of the government. So recently a grave site was being built over and they disinterred a load of babies' coffins only to discover that they were empty.

Long story short there's a renowned judge who's big on fighting to just causes (kinda like Harvey Dent, pre-Two-Face) who wanted to look into it and bring those responsible under the dictatorship to justice. But the Spanish government don't want to acknowledge any of the nasty things that happened under Franco's regime, so they've all but exiled this judge and charged him with all sorts in front of the European Court of Justice.

I can't imagine the judge will be convicted of anything given that he's done absolutely nothing wrong, but I was appalled to hear of this level of censorship going on even today in a country as developed and (supposedly) diplomatic as Spain.

Kinda off-topic (kinda?!) but still.

[balance5050]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...


Well, KotOR used D&D combat mechanics I believe, and it was set in the Star Wars universe

Ahh, but is Starwars sci-fi or fantasy? Hard to say IMO.

Star Wars is a Western   Documentary. Duh! 

[spotlessvoid]

ExtendedCut wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

If control was actually possible, then it is the best choice. Shepard doesn't become the next starchild, he replaces him.

What's the difference, exactly?

spotlessvoid wrote...

That would be your first and only MUSH!

Oh I don't know. You'd have had to headbutt them into submission in the first place just to get the leashes on...

Maybe I misunderstood, but it seemed like what was being implied was that Shepard would take on starchilds agenda and morals "continuing the cycle" (paraphrasing)

Replacing would mean Shepard would retain his own ideas and change course from starchild

But what would be the point for Shepard to control the Reapers if he DIDN'T go down the same path as the Starkid? 

Would he eventually realize that the Reapers are neccessary to "cleanse" the universe, like the Starkid claims? 

Or would he just use them as his own personal butlers and/or chauffers until the end of time?

"Harbinger, get me another beer. Oh, and make me a frakin sandwich. "

[balance5050]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...


Well, KotOR used D&D combat mechanics I believe, and it was set in the Star Wars universe

Ahh, but is Starwars sci-fi or fantasy? Hard to say IMO.

Star Wars is a Western   Documentary. Duh! 

Firefly is a Western. I heard George Lucas was actually inspired by some Asian Legends/stories for Star Wars.

[paxxton]

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...


So it seems I'd be better off with the other half of the games in existence.

Yes... and EA sports.

That would be too extreme. I don't mind good story-telling.

If you don't like fantasy then you are missing out on some amazing storytelling then.

You do realise that some of the best rpg's from back in the day (Final fantasy, dragonquest, phantasy star) were first inspired by Gary Gygax's D&D rule set right?

I heard about Dungeons & Dragons. But does it impose a fantasy setting or just gameplay mechanics on a game that uses it?

Stat based gaemplay lends itself more to fantasy, but can be transposed to fit any setting.

Good. So I don't have to  be stuck in games with dwarves, tooth fairies, elves and talking bunnies. That's precisely why I love Mass Effect. It's serious, inspiring stuff.

[spotlessvoid]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

byne wrote...
Its a good thing theres no saying about how forgetting history is bad or anything. I'm sure if we dont talk about them then they never existed!

Dude, you should come to Spain... I'm here for a couple of months at the moment, found out this week about a recent case that's surfaced from the Franco dictatorship in the mid-20th century. Basically lots of poor people had babies, and their doctors told them that the babies had died, and then sold the children off to rich buyers who didn't want to have babies the natural way, sales which were as far as I know sanctioned and even brokered by members of the government. So recently a grave site was being built over and they disinterred a load of babies' coffins only to discover that they were empty.

Long story short there's a renowned judge who's big on fighting to just causes (kinda like Harvey Dent, pre-Two-Face) who wanted to look into it and bring those responsible under the dictatorship to justice. But the Spanish government don't want to acknowledge any of the nasty things that happened under Franco's regime, so they've all but exiled this judge and charged him with all sorts in front of the European Court of Justice.

I can't imagine the judge will be convicted of anything given that he's done absolutely nothing wrong, but I was appalled to hear of this level of censorship going on even today in a country as developed and (supposedly) diplomatic as Spain.

Kinda off-topic (kinda?!) but still.

Dyncorp Child kidnapping. Google it. The more things change

[balance5050]

paxxton wrote...

Good. So I don't have to  be stuck in games with dwarves, tooth fairies, elves and talking bunnies. That's precisely why I love Mass Effect. It's serious, inspiring stuff.

What about in other meduims? You don't like Lord of the Rings? How about Game of Thrones?

[Tirian Thorn]

balance5050 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...


Well, KotOR used D&D combat mechanics I believe, and it was set in the Star Wars universe

Ahh, but is Starwars sci-fi or fantasy? Hard to say IMO.

Star Wars is a Western   Documentary. Duh! 

Firefly is a Western. I heard George Lucas was actually inspired by some Asian Legends/stories for Star Wars.

The Jedi are a combination of Buddhists and Samurai.  (And Zen Teachings.)  

That's why so many people like Star Wars, because it's familiar to so many people on so many levels.  Original ideas are entertaining, but people like the familiar.  They like the same old stories, with just a little variance for flavor. 

[Simon_Says]

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Good.
So I don't have to  be stuck in games with dwarves, tooth fairies,
elves and talking bunnies. That's precisely why I love Mass Effect. It's
serious, inspiring stuff.

What about in other meduims? You don't like Lord of the Rings? How about Game of Thrones?

Lay off him. He's entitled to his opinions and doesn't need to justify them as long as he's not being a dick about it (which he isn't). I for one totally understand why he could hate elves. Annoying bastards.

[Simon_Says]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...


Well, KotOR used D&D combat mechanics I believe, and it was set in the Star Wars universe

Ahh, but is Starwars sci-fi or fantasy? Hard to say IMO.

Star Wars is a Western   Documentary. Duh! 

This is why the term speculative fiction was coined to encompass both of em. So often they blend together and merge with other genres like horror, it's become practically impossible and useless to try and fit the neat little labels on these things.

Also, there was a term already in use before that encompassed Star Wars, Trek, Babylon 5, and Mass Effect. It's called Space Opera.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 27 avril 2012 - 06:55 .