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[waldstr18]

@byne

thanks, but the linguistic course sales man is right. i should try and use the english language correctly. reason why i leave out the ' is, im not exactly sure where to put them. as for caps - laziness prevails.
what i wanted to say is, i dont use the apprevations cause most of the time i dont know what they mean in the first place. the "lol" is about laughing, that much i have figured out. but what did the non believer mean by "OP, ..."?!

explanations would be appreciated.

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

legaldinho wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

legaldinho wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

legaldinho wrote...

waldo18 is definitely the worst poster on these here forums.

Waldster18 shall offically be known as Waldo from this day forth

He's like the village idiot everyone is fed up with, but insists on hanging around.

I'm sick of his inane posts.

" I disagree.... LOL"

"You called me a bad name. THANKS"

i resent that. i would never use "lol". i dont use the cave man language. i also dont use smilies if you have noticed.

You could use capitals. You could learn the use of apostrophes, too. More broadly speaking, I recommend a course in anything related to language, reasoning, logic. The humanities. Any insight into accummulated human knowledge, to be honest, would greatly benefit you, and indirectly, the ones who read your posts.

PS- I hope no one else joins in here. I only read this thread and hardly post, so I don' fear the banhammer. Productive posters should stay well away. Anyway, I'll say no more in case I endanger the entire thread.

Ok, I am not by any stretch of the imagination Waldstr's biggest defender, but every time someone says he needs to imrpove his writing or grammar or what have you, I feel like I should point out that he lives in Germany, so I doubt english is his first language.

There are plenty of substantive reasons you can choose to dislike Waldstr, but his writing and grammar skills really shouldnt be one of them.

QFT. If you really want to see some bad english, you should have read that of my old classmates! That was horrible!
Waldstr is BY far better than most germans I know when it comes to english, so don't blame him for that!

[balance5050]

waldstr18 wrote...

@byne

thanks, but the linguistic course sales man is right. i should try and use the english language correctly. reason why i leave out the ' is, im not exactly sure where to put them. as for caps - laziness prevails.
what i wanted to say is, i dont use the apprevations cause most of the time i dont know what they mean in the first place. the "lol" is about laughing, that much i have figured out. but what did the non believer mean by "OP, ..."?!

explanations would be appreciated.

OP = Original Poster = Byne

[waldstr18]

@5050

thanks.

[suprarj]

There are certainly some interesting points in the IT (and some incredibly observant people here), but unfortunately it's not true. I strongly advise against getting your hopes up / taking it too seriously. I'm not interested in arguing point by point with you, so if that makes me a troll, so be it. I've worked in and around the gaming industry, and the fact is that there is no financial upside to releasing a "troll" ending that is only visible to the most intense fans. Not to mention, the PR goodwill and brand loyalty that is lost by doing something like that. There is a reason BW refers to the ending as "bittersweet."

[balance5050]

suprarj wrote...

There are certainly some interesting points in the IT (and some incredibly observant people here), but unfortunately it's not true. I strongly advise against getting your hopes up / taking it too seriously. I'm not interested in arguing point by point with you, so if that makes me a troll, so be it. I've worked in and around the gaming industry, and the fact is that there is no financial upside to releasing a "troll" ending that is only visible to the most intense fans. Not to mention, the PR goodwill and brand loyalty that is lost by doing something like that. There is a reason BW refers to the ending as "bittersweet."

Nice opinion, very victorious and uplifting.

Modifié par balance5050, 27 avril 2012 - 09:00 .

[waldstr18]

suprarj wrote...

There are certainly some interesting points in the IT (and some incredibly observant people here), but unfortunately it's not true. I strongly advise against getting your hopes up / taking it too seriously. I'm not interested in arguing point by point with you, so if that makes me a troll, so be it. I've worked in and around the gaming industry, and the fact is that there is no financial upside to releasing a "troll" ending that is only visible to the most intense fans. Not to mention, the PR goodwill and brand loyalty that is lost by doing something like that. There is a reason BW refers to the ending as "bittersweet."

im proud to say i made that point before. im not working in the gaming industry, though, or at all for that matter. but thats what i said in a nutshell! now i feel smart. shiny.

[balance5050]

Prince of Persia (2008) Final Fantasy 13-2, Asura's Wrath.

These are all games that have their ending's in DLC form

If that guy was in the industry maybe he can explain why these games did it. And why them doing it makes no sense.

Modifié par balance5050, 27 avril 2012 - 09:06 .

[Baldsake]

suprarj wrote...

There are certainly some interesting points in the IT (and some incredibly observant people here), but unfortunately it's not true. I strongly advise against getting your hopes up / taking it too seriously. I'm not interested in arguing point by point with you, so if that makes me a troll, so be it. I've worked in and around the gaming industry, and the fact is that there is no financial upside to releasing a "troll" ending that is only visible to the most intense fans. Not to mention, the PR goodwill and brand loyalty that is lost by doing something like that. There is a reason BW refers to the ending as "bittersweet."

I kinda agree.. I've said it before but I'll say it again; The reason I highly doubt the IDT will hold true is not because of a lack of in-game hints/clues, but because from a business perspective it wouldn't make any sense to go about it this way planned.

oh and I love how this waldodude is getting so much attention.. Good job homie.. even though literally everything you post makes me facepalm.

[waldstr18]

Baldsake wrote...

suprarj wrote...

There are certainly some interesting points in the IT (and some incredibly observant people here), but unfortunately it's not true. I strongly advise against getting your hopes up / taking it too seriously. I'm not interested in arguing point by point with you, so if that makes me a troll, so be it. I've worked in and around the gaming industry, and the fact is that there is no financial upside to releasing a "troll" ending that is only visible to the most intense fans. Not to mention, the PR goodwill and brand loyalty that is lost by doing something like that. There is a reason BW refers to the ending as "bittersweet."

I kinda agree.. I've said it before but I'll say it again; The reason I highly doubt the IDT will hold true is not because of a lack of in-game hints/clues, but because from a business perspective it wouldn't make any sense to go about it this way planned.

oh and I love how this waldodude is getting so much attention.. Good job homie.. even though literally everything you post makes me facepalm.

what can i say, people like an entertainer. or like we say here in germany:
ist der zirkus noch so klein, einer muss der kasper sein.

[llbountyhunter]

suprarj wrote...

There are certainly some interesting points in the IT (and some incredibly observant people here), but unfortunately it's not true. I strongly advise against getting your hopes up / taking it too seriously. I'm not interested in arguing point by point with you, so if that makes me a troll, so be it. I've worked in and around the gaming industry, and the fact is that there is no financial upside to releasing a "troll" ending that is only visible to the most intense fans. Not to mention, the PR goodwill and brand loyalty that is lost by doing something like that. There is a reason BW refers to the ending as "bittersweet."

the "financial upside" is that now mass effect is the most talked about game ever, why, my friends who dont even play games are checking it out to see what the big deal is. 
(high risk/ high reward) 

the brand loyalty will rise imo, because it would be one of the best endings EVER.  


also..... "bittersweet"? I only got the bitter part.

[llbountyhunter]

double post.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 27 avril 2012 - 09:16 .

[byne]

llbountyhunter wrote...

double post.

Suuuuuure it was. 

I saw what you originally said, but I shan't tell anyone.

[balance5050]

Also, I.T. is applicable even if we never get any DLC, or even any EC, it's still a valid perception.

[McWhitey3]

I know it's been probably said before in these 1800 pages but playing again with IT in mind... I am 90% sure IT is real. For me the biggest piece is the battle on thessia. The prothean VI even said they failed because they were betrayed from the inside. Some wanted to control and not destroy and these groups were found to be INDOCTRINATED. Then the ending choice of control is meant to appear good. The only other explanation which I hope isn't the case but if it is then the extended cut will show this... The starchild is real and destroy is the final answer to end then cycles because only by all races (sythetics included) working together can you achieve this: order/peace. I have a fear this is what bioware will do with the extended cut but hope they do IT and let us really finish the fight.

Modifié par McWhitey3, 27 avril 2012 - 09:19 .

[llbountyhunter]

byne wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

double post.

Suuuuuure it was. 

I saw what you originally said, but I shan't tell anyone.

I have no idea what your talking about.....

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 27 avril 2012 - 09:20 .

[balance5050]

McWhitey3 wrote...

I know it's been probably said before in these 1800 pages but playing again with IT in mind... I am 90% sure IT is real. For me the biggest piece is the battle on thessia. The prothean VI even said they failed because they were betrayed from the inside. Some wanted to control and not destroy and these groups were found to be INDOCTRINATED. Then the ending choice of control is meant to appear good. The only other explanation which I hope isn't the case but if it is then the extended cut will show this... The starchild is real and destroy is the final answer to end then cycles because only by all races (sythetics included) working together can you achieve this: order/peace. I have a fear this is what bioware will do with the extended cut but hope they do IT and let us really finish the fight.

The reason why the Thessia VI didn't detect indoctrination on Shepard is presented in the game itself/

1. Shepard wasn't indoctrinated at this time, there were doubt's and visions in Shepards dreams sure, but no reaper tech like Saren, TIM and Kai Leng had.

2. Both Javik and the VI talk about " indoctrinated sleeper units" that went undetected by the VI's and Javik both for a long time.

3. There is a chance that because Shepard has "the Prothean Cipher" that it had overwitten the indoc detection runtimes.

There you go, 3 reasons why the VI didn't detect Sheps indoc presented by the game itself.


EDIT. sorry, after reading your post again I realize that you weren't bringing up what I'm reffering to. Bu Ill still leave this info here.

Modifié par balance5050, 27 avril 2012 - 09:30 .

[Uncle Jo]

llbountyhunter wrote...

suprarj wrote...

There are certainly some interesting points in the IT (and some incredibly observant people here), but unfortunately it's not true. I strongly advise against getting your hopes up / taking it too seriously. I'm not interested in arguing point by point with you, so if that makes me a troll, so be it. I've worked in and around the gaming industry, and the fact is that there is no financial upside to releasing a "troll" ending that is only visible to the most intense fans. Not to mention, the PR goodwill and brand loyalty that is lost by doing something like that. There is a reason BW refers to the ending as "bittersweet."

the "financial upside" is that now mass effect is the most talked about game ever, why, my friends who dont even play games are checking it out to see what the big deal is. 
(high risk/ high reward) 

the brand loyalty will rise imo, because it would be one of the best endings EVER.  


also..... "bittersweet"? I only got the bitter part.

I sincerely hope you're true for the sake of all who loved Mass Effect from the very start and for the sake of Bioware itself. Because if the DLC doesn't live up to the (incredibly) high expectations that the controversed ending generated and the devs really went for an "intellectual/space magic/whatsoever" ending, then Bioware will lose every credibility as talented story-writer... I still maintain that they are (were) playing with fire, because it won't be always an IT (planned or not) to save them...

[McWhitey3]

balance5050 wrote...

McWhitey3 wrote...

I know it's been probably said before in these 1800 pages but playing again with IT in mind... I am 90% sure IT is real. For me the biggest piece is the battle on thessia. The prothean VI even said they failed because they were betrayed from the inside. Some wanted to control and not destroy and these groups were found to be INDOCTRINATED. Then the ending choice of control is meant to appear good. The only other explanation which I hope isn't the case but if it is then the extended cut will show this... The starchild is real and destroy is the final answer to end then cycles because only by all races (sythetics included) working together can you achieve this: order/peace. I have a fear this is what bioware will do with the extended cut but hope they do IT and let us really finish the fight.

The reason why the Thessia VI didn't detect indoctrination on Shepard is presented in the game itself/

1. Shepard wasn't indoctrinated at this time, there were doubt's and visions in Shepards dreams sure, but no reaper tech like Saren, TIM and Kai Leng had.

2. Both Javik and the VI talk about " indoctrinated sleeper units" that went undetected by the VI's and Javik both for a long time.

3. There is a chance that because Shepard has "the Prothean Cipher" that it had overwitten the indoc detection runtimes.

There you go, 3 reasons why the VI didn't detect Sheps indoc presented by the game itself.

You misread my post....I was actually saying that the prothean VI said that the splinter groups that wanted control were indoctrinated. Thus making the good choice of control wrong. Plus my post said I agree with IT but also gave my fear of what bioware might do with the extended cut to make the ending....real

[estebanus]

Uncle Jo wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

suprarj wrote...

There are certainly some interesting points in the IT (and some incredibly observant people here), but unfortunately it's not true. I strongly advise against getting your hopes up / taking it too seriously. I'm not interested in arguing point by point with you, so if that makes me a troll, so be it. I've worked in and around the gaming industry, and the fact is that there is no financial upside to releasing a "troll" ending that is only visible to the most intense fans. Not to mention, the PR goodwill and brand loyalty that is lost by doing something like that. There is a reason BW refers to the ending as "bittersweet."

the "financial upside" is that now mass effect is the most talked about game ever, why, my friends who dont even play games are checking it out to see what the big deal is. 
(high risk/ high reward) 

the brand loyalty will rise imo, because it would be one of the best endings EVER.  


also..... "bittersweet"? I only got the bitter part.

I sincerely hope you're true for the sake of all who loved Mass Effect from the very start and for the sake of Bioware itself. Because if the DLC doesn't live up to the (incredibly) high expectations that the controversed ending generated and the devs really went for an "intellectual/space magic/whatsoever" ending, then Bioware will lose every credibility as talented story-writer... I still maintain that they are (were) playing with fire, because it won't be always an IT (planned or not) to save them...

I agree. Bioware has their work cut out for them, and if they do it half-arsed or anything less than what the fans expect, they've already failed.

However, I trust them. I have faith that the company that blew my mind to thy kingdom come in KOTOR can actually pull this off.
They know the score, but it's up to them to make it count!

[chidingewe8036]

If I play the game for a second time and beat it will I be able to get The Shepard Breath Scene with an EMS of 2637?

[Arian Dynas]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

If I play the game for a second time and beat it will I be able to get The Shepard Breath Scene with an EMS of 2637?

No. You need an EMS of 4000+ and to have saved Anderson from being shot again, or you need an EMS of 5000.

[Vahilor]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

If I play the game for a second time and beat it will I be able to get The Shepard Breath Scene with an EMS of 2637?

No you need at least 4000 EMS (+ rescue Anderson) to get the breath scene.

[Arian Dynas]

Also, hey folks, I'm back, and get ready for another wall'o'the'filthy'text.

[estebanus]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

If I play the game for a second time and beat it will I be able to get The Shepard Breath Scene with an EMS of 2637?

Nope. you either need 4000 and Anderson alive, or you need 5000 without Anderson necessarily surviving to get the breath scene.

That is, if you choose destroy of course, not synthesis or control!

EDIT: damn, beaten to it!

Modifié par estebanus, 27 avril 2012 - 09:43 .