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#45901
Arian Dynas

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Domanese wrote...

So much for civil debate. I was going to say I found something interesting within the endings but now Im just going to give you guys some twilight related motivationals until you decide to behave. ^_^

Enjoy hell!


No.

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estebanus wrote...


Oh, You insult a bunch of people just for the hell of it?

You and your friends must be so mature.


Let it be. You're losing your time... I'm glad to know that your brother is going to get better.

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Back to the topic issue, the Stargazer scene: when/where does that happen? what does that mean at all? I finished the game once with the destroy option, i don't know if that scene appears with the others endings. But if do, how Sheppard could be the savior of all if, in fact, he delivered the victory to the Reapers? Or that was another hallucination, or BioWare saying "don't worry, in the end you really saved the galaxy"?

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Uncle Jo wrote...

estebanus wrote...


Oh, You insult a bunch of people just for the hell of it?

You and your friends must be so mature.


Let it be. You're losing your time... I'm glad to know that your brother is going to get better.



Yup, so am I! :)

#45906
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The best way to deal with trolls is complete ignorance. Don't reply,
don't remark, don't comment, don't even acknowledge it's existence. Eventually it'll
grow bored and leave on its own. If it comes back, again, don't respond.

Seriously guys, feeding the troll gains us nothing. Don't respond to whatever it says in any way.


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Domanese

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Domanese wrote...

So much for civil debate. I was going to say I found something interesting within the endings but now Im just going to give you guys some twilight related motivationals until you decide to behave. ^_^

Enjoy hell!


No.




Good boy. Anyway Arian, what was happening before all this insanity hit? I worked my way back to the earth mission and I am going to burn through it to try and reach the endings and listen to it for myself without any music to hide anything. So what would you guys like me to check first, Control Synthesis or Destroy? I'll report what i find here.

Modifié par Domanese, 28 avril 2012 - 12:54 .


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n00bsauce2010 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

"Indoctrination Theory" should be renamed "cognitive dissonance-induced mental gymnastics from entitled fans" theory.


Why exactly are you here? Are you just upset that you're 30 years old and still live with your mom? or are you more upset that you didn't get the 50 hints left by the devs?


just for you noobi, im gonna find religion and pray to my then new found god every day at least for an hour that the coming dlc disproves the idt.

and when i say religion, i mean one of the previsouly made up ones, not the one you are clearly following.


here, one of my posts, uncut.

if im insulting people, what were you doing here? or is that besides the point again?


I've now come to the conclusion that you're mentally ill. I never denied the fact that I insult people. But my post a few pages ago stated.. that I usually insult those who merely say stupid **** like "Indoctrination Theory" should be renamed "cognitive dissonance-induced mental gymnastics from entitled fans" -

These types of things are insults.. and are very similar to what you've said many times. Don't you dare deny that you have insulted people.. at least give us that courtesy. The real argument was whether or not you were a troll.. which you're still denying... we all know you are.. because 1) your insults pertaining to our "theory" 2) no argument to back up your opinion or evidence 3) denial of such things.

As I stated before.. nut up or shut up.




read the spotlessvoids post of of my previous comments. there are lots of explanations in there. also whats there to deny? spotty is going to collect all my posts, so you can read for yourself. i might ridicule your theory, but i have never attacked anyone, unlike you, my slightly unpleasant friend. if you dont like my opinion about the ridiculousness of your theory, i cant help it.

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marcelo_sdk wrote...

Back to the topic issue, the Stargazer scene: when/where does that happen? what does that mean at all? I finished the game once with the destroy option, i don't know if that scene appears with the others endings. But if do, how Sheppard could be the savior of all if, in fact, he delivered the victory to the Reapers? Or that was another hallucination, or BioWare saying "don't worry, in the end you really saved the galaxy"?


It's a hallucination, basically the Reapers telling you "don't worry, you REALLY DID save the galaxy. For sure."
In at least one interpretation anyway. Another finds the line "Alright... just ONE MORE STORY" far more telling. Also, just for argument's sake, my own theory is that it is some alien spcies who wasn't around and involved in the Citadel space when the Reapers attacked, and only heard rumors and legends after the fact.

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Jim Beam:D 3'th bottle to be finished:D:wizard:
Yey,there's another one...:D

All of You,dont take Me(Us) to serious please guys! Me&my friends are All BIG Fans of ME so pls don't get offended or whatever dudes,we're just a couple of guys drunken&havin some fun time here.OK!
Cheers:wizard: 

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marcelo_sdk wrote...

Back to the topic issue, the Stargazer scene: when/where does that happen? what does that mean at all? I finished the game once with the destroy option, i don't know if that scene appears with the others endings. But if do, how Sheppard could be the savior of all if, in fact, he delivered the victory to the Reapers? Or that was another hallucination, or BioWare saying "don't worry, in the end you really saved the galaxy"?

Yes it happens in every ending, exactly the same.

No there are no answers.

We're not happy about it either.

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marcelo_sdk wrote...

Back to the topic issue, the Stargazer scene: when/where does that happen? what does that mean at all? I finished the game once with the destroy option, i don't know if that scene appears with the others endings. But if do, how Sheppard could be the savior of all if, in fact, he delivered the victory to the Reapers? Or that was another hallucination, or BioWare saying "don't worry, in the end you really saved the galaxy"?


I suppose they've found one of the Liara's beacons and watched Shepard's entry. That would mean they are members of a newly evolved species which was spared by the Reapers.

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 Have Some Fun Time 2!:wizard:

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paxxton wrote...

WarDog774 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

question on the side...

if im a troll, whats that wardog guy then?



I'm not even sure if you could categorize him as a troll anymore!

I think "retard" fits more!


Drunk &disordered:O:wizard::D


So what r u drinking?


i dont think wardog is still here. i asked him to leave, so he did.

see noobsauce, you just have to ask someone nicely. the insulting gets you no where.

edit: or maybe not.

Modifié par waldstr18, 28 avril 2012 - 12:56 .


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I thoght it could humans in some colony, and when they wonder about reaching the stars, they mean going to another clusters (what is not possible or viable without the relays)

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Domanese wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Domanese wrote...

So much for civil debate. I was going to say I found something interesting within the endings but now Im just going to give you guys some twilight related motivationals until you decide to behave. ^_^

Enjoy hell!


No.




Good boy. Anyway Arian, what was happening before all this insanity hit?


Well I put up a big post a few pages back, Spotless will be putting up a big ol response to it soon enough. Feel free to go back and read it.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Back to the topic issue, the Stargazer scene: when/where does that happen? what does that mean at all? I finished the game once with the destroy option, i don't know if that scene appears with the others endings. But if do, how Sheppard could be the savior of all if, in fact, he delivered the victory to the Reapers? Or that was another hallucination, or BioWare saying "don't worry, in the end you really saved the galaxy"?


It's a hallucination, basically the Reapers telling you "don't worry, you REALLY DID save the galaxy. For sure."
In at least one interpretation anyway. Another finds the line "Alright... just ONE MORE STORY" far more telling. Also, just for argument's sake, my own theory is that it is some alien spcies who wasn't around and involved in the Citadel space when the Reapers attacked, and only heard rumors and legends after the fact.


Seems likely but it looks more of the impression (to me) that the few remnants of humanity scattered about have repopulated in that time span. Not really sure since it doesn't even seem like them.

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Is it just me, or did some drunk just try trolling us?

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Going through your text drop, I realized that I had nothing constructive to add other than this one thing:
I would not want to debate you if my freedom were in the balance. Your ability to retain and recall information is imposing

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WarDog774 wrote...

Jim Beam:D 3'th bottle to be finished:D:wizard:
Yey,there's another one...:D

All of You,dont take Me(Us) to serious please guys! Me&my friends are All BIG Fans of ME so pls don't get offended or whatever dudes,we're just a couple of guys drunken&havin some fun time here.OK!
Cheers:wizard: 


We're doing what we enjoy, just like you. 

So if it's not too much trouble, you mind going off to spew someplace else while you're doing your drinking? It's somewhat disruptive, and it's only polite to do so.

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But don't worry, I've got a wall of text coming! Just not as quick with it as you sir!

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Going through your text drop, I realized that I had nothing constructive to add other than this one thing:
I would not want to debate you if my freedom were in the balance. Your ability to retain and recall information is imposing


And to think, every highschool debate meet I never placed higher than 7th, lol.

But then... American LD debate sucks.

#45923
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waldstr18 wrote...


read the spotlessvoids post of of my previous comments. there are lots of explanations in there. also whats there to deny? spotty is going to collect all my posts, so you can read for yourself. i might ridicule your theory, but i have never attacked anyone, unlike you, my slightly unpleasant friend. if you dont like my opinion about the ridiculousness of your theory, i cant help it.


That right there is exactly why you're a troll. No argument to back it up. Pure denial. Insults don't have to be directed at a specific person you know. I think common sense would leave one to realize that. But saying things like "you guys are indoctrinated for believing in so and so" is an insult... and the fact that you deny that shows you're a troll.

I will not deny that I insult people. I insult you all the time and I enjoy it. You however will deny insulting people for supporting the theory... and that my friend is rather sad.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Domanese wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Domanese wrote...

So much for civil debate. I was going to say I found something interesting within the endings but now Im just going to give you guys some twilight related motivationals until you decide to behave. ^_^

Enjoy hell!


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Good boy. Anyway Arian, what was happening before all this insanity hit?


Well I put up a big post a few pages back, Spotless will be putting up a big ol response to it soon enough. Feel free to go back and read it.



I actually did read it Arian, I was particularly interested in the whole "no bad publicity" and the points to made to support that point of view. I wouldn't always agree on that always being true but everything you have said in that context with both EA and bioware seems accurate and has solid weight to it. It's enlightening and it's informative.

I worked my way back to the earth mission and I am going to burn through it to try and reach the endings and listen to it for myself without any music to hide anything. So what would you guys like me to check first, Control Synthesis or Destroy? I'll report what I find here and give my opinions.

Modifié par Domanese, 28 avril 2012 - 01:03 .


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@noobsauce

i hope you wont start crying now.