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[Arian Dynas]

Uncle Jo wrote...

byne wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...
Just like a nuclear pollution on a pretty bigger scale of dangerousness and durability... Well if half all that you said were to be true, then we're done... Even Shep won't save us. Do you know you guys are scary  ?
I just realized something, do we know what happened to Sovereign's remain ? I mean he wasn't reduced to cosmic dust and a part of it almost killed  Shep.

I think they say something in ME2 about how they recovered less than half of Sovereign's remains after it was destroyed.

Yeah but what did they exactly do with it ? but it's a golden opportunity to study your worst enemey (with naturally high risks of Indoc) and learn about eventual weaknesses and then using it against him...
Oops... I start to think like TIM...

They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

[byne]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

byne wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...
Just like a nuclear pollution on a pretty bigger scale of dangerousness and durability... Well if half all that you said were to be true, then we're done... Even Shep won't save us. Do you know you guys are scary  ?
I just realized something, do we know what happened to Sovereign's remain ? I mean he wasn't reduced to cosmic dust and a part of it almost killed  Shep.

I think they say something in ME2 about how they recovered less than half of Sovereign's remains after it was destroyed.

Yeah but what did they exactly do with it ? but it's a golden opportunity to study your worst enemey (with naturally high risks of Indoc) and learn about eventual weaknesses and then using it against him...
Oops... I start to think like TIM...

They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

EDI was also built with tech salvaged from Sovereign.

[Domanese]

Hmm. Okay as I go through the ending and the rush to the conduit a second time. I see the bushes once again before I get hit by the beam on the far left... But the bushes and such are in the wrong place. I didn't see them at the center of where Shep wakes up after the blast and behind me looks... fuzzy. Im gonna try walking back the way I came... Found out what happens if you walk away from the light that leads to the citadel. You drop dead.

[Simon_Says]

Arian Dynas wrote...

They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

There's sovereign eezo in the SR-2?! I know the stuff's inanimate, but has it been screened and decontaminated?

[Arian Dynas]

Simon_Says wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

There's sovereign eezo in the SR-2?! I know the stuff's inanimate, but has it been screened and decontaminated?

Well to be fair, my memory could be playing tricks on me there, but the fact is Eezo is a raw element, there really can't be an indoctrination signal coming from it, especially since the core is heavily HEAVILY shielded.

Morever, personally as I see it, to make a eezo core it is probably purified, slag allowed to run off, the eezo melted and then supercompacted into rods or potentially cubes before being put into the core and fuel used to generate an electrical charge, which is then sent through the core, creating the Mass Effect.

[Uncle Jo]

Arian Dynas wrote...


They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

I see... I really need to make another ME1 / ME2 playthrough... I wanted to wait till the DLC EC comes out, but I do have alot to remember/catch up... Anyway you're all right here, there is enough stuff for making even another awesome trilogy...

BTW "If Shepard was indoctrinated then he goes down in history as the greatest benedict arnold of all time and the Reapers win, no save transfer."  That was a masterpiece

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 28 avril 2012 - 03:15 .

[Simon_Says]

Domanese wrote...

Hmm. Okay as I go through the ending and the rush to the conduit a second time. I see the bushes once again before I get hit by the beam on the far left... But the bushes and such are in the wrong place. I didn't see them at the center of where Shep wakes up after the blast and behind me looks... fuzzy. Im gonna try walking back the way I came... Found out what happens if you walk away from the light that leads to the citadel. You drop dead.

Oh, and maybe it should be noted. There's a bloody great Reaper capital ship standing over you, presumably broadcasting The Indoctrination Show on all stations.

[byne]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

There's sovereign eezo in the SR-2?! I know the stuff's inanimate, but has it been screened and decontaminated?

Well to be fair, my memory could be playing tricks on me there, but the fact is Eezo is a raw element, there really can't be an indoctrination signal coming from it, especially since the core is heavily HEAVILY shielded.

Morever, personally as I see it, to make a eezo core it is probably purified, slag allowed to run off, the eezo melted and then supercompacted into rods or potentially cubes before being put into the core and fuel used to generate an electrical charge, which is then sent through the core, creating the Mass Effect.

Speaking of the Normandy's drive core, am I the only one who thinks the SR1's drive core was way cooler looking?

[Arian Dynas]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

I see... I really need to make another ME1 / ME2 playthrough... I wanted to wait till the DLC EC comes out, but I do have alot to remember/catch up... Anyway you're all right here, there is enough stuff for making even another awesome trilogy...

BTW "If Shepard was indoctrinated then he goes down in history as the greatest benedict arnold of all time and the Reapers win, no save transfer."  That was a masterpiece

Thank you 

So many positive waves from this thread...

[Arian Dynas]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

There's sovereign eezo in the SR-2?! I know the stuff's inanimate, but has it been screened and decontaminated?

Well to be fair, my memory could be playing tricks on me there, but the fact is Eezo is a raw element, there really can't be an indoctrination signal coming from it, especially since the core is heavily HEAVILY shielded.

Morever, personally as I see it, to make a eezo core it is probably purified, slag allowed to run off, the eezo melted and then supercompacted into rods or potentially cubes before being put into the core and fuel used to generate an electrical charge, which is then sent through the core, creating the Mass Effect.

Speaking of the Normandy's drive core, am I the only one who thinks the SR1's drive core was way cooler looking?

Cooler? Somewhat.

Sillier? Absolutely.

[byne]

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

Speaking of the Normandy's drive core, am I the only one who thinks the SR1's drive core was way cooler looking?

Cooler? Somewhat.

Sillier? Absolutely.

I never really understood why they changed the drive core. Was it ever actually explained?

[spotlessvoid]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

There's sovereign eezo in the SR-2?! I know the stuff's inanimate, but has it been screened and decontaminated?

Well to be fair, my memory could be playing tricks on me there, but the fact is Eezo is a raw element, there really can't be an indoctrination signal coming from it, especially since the core is heavily HEAVILY shielded.

Morever, personally as I see it, to make a eezo core it is probably purified, slag allowed to run off, the eezo melted and then supercompacted into rods or potentially cubes before being put into the core and fuel used to generate an electrical charge, which is then sent through the core, creating the Mass Effect.

Have to agree that adding an indoctrination signal to a raw element seems doubtful

[Simon_Says]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

There's sovereign eezo in the SR-2?! I know the stuff's inanimate, but has it been screened and decontaminated?

Well to be fair, my memory could be playing tricks on me there, but the fact is Eezo is a raw element, there really can't be an indoctrination signal coming from it, especially since the core is heavily HEAVILY shielded.

Morever, personally as I see it, to make a eezo core it is probably purified, slag allowed to run off, the eezo melted and then supercompacted into rods or potentially cubes before being put into the core and fuel used to generate an electrical charge, which is then sent through the core, creating the Mass Effect.

Still, the reapers were capable of doing far more with their eezo cores than anyone else in the council cycle. What prevents them from using, I dunno, a nanite slurry in the eezo that actively manages it for greater efficiency or more sophisticated manipulation? Or a booby trap in case the primitives get the bright idea of knicking their juice?

What makes eezo from Sovereign so special that Cerberus goes out of its way to get this eezo?

[Arian Dynas]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

Speaking of the Normandy's drive core, am I the only one who thinks the SR1's drive core was way cooler looking?

Cooler? Somewhat.

Sillier? Absolutely.

I never really understood why they changed the drive core. Was it ever actually explained?

Well I thought it was pretty cool, and tbh a bit more realistic, shielding and such, Eezo DOES give off radiation after all.

[Domanese]

Something interesting within the corridor containing the bodies and the keepers that I'm noticing. Theres some kind of strange blood marking on some of the sides, weird blood markings particularly on the right hand side. Wait... the further I go the more this stuff appears on the walls. I just turned around and the way I came is covered with it. Hell it looks like oil black spiderwebs. And as I walk things get darker.

Modifié par Domanese, 28 avril 2012 - 03:21 .

[ExtendedCut]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

byne wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...
Just like a nuclear pollution on a pretty bigger scale of dangerousness and durability... Well if half all that you said were to be true, then we're done... Even Shep won't save us. Do you know you guys are scary  ?
I just realized something, do we know what happened to Sovereign's remain ? I mean he wasn't reduced to cosmic dust and a part of it almost killed  Shep.

I think they say something in ME2 about how they recovered less than half of Sovereign's remains after it was destroyed.

Yeah but what did they exactly do with it ? but it's a golden opportunity to study your worst enemey (with naturally high risks of Indoc) and learn about eventual weaknesses and then using it against him...
Oops... I start to think like TIM...

They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

EDI was also built with tech salvaged from Sovereign.

Sorry to butt in, but I seem to remember an instance (and I might not be remembering this correctly) in which you find some reaper parts with a probe on one of the mine-able planets, and then when you go to get the upgrade at Glyph's station, the screen says something like "If you want to study these parts, then you are risking indoctrination of the people who are working on the parts".  I probably have that totally wrong, but it seems like that is the gist of that upgrade.

Anyway, my point is that I don't understand the seemingly inconsistent qualities of indoctrination.  If anyone who gets close to Reaper tech can potentially become indoctrinated, then wouldn't anyone who contacts EDI, for example, become indoctrinated? 

In other words, it seems in some instances that it takes some kind of active force (like Sovereign or object Rho) to initiate indoctrination, but in other instances, indoctrination can seem to start be simply being too close to anything of Reaper origin.

Or maybe I'm wrong about that whole scenario that I'm thinking of.

[Arian Dynas]

Simon_Says wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

They did, Where do you think Thanix series weapons come from?

That and part of the Tantalus Drive Core in the SR-2 is stolen Eezo from Soverign's core.

And there was no small amount of "unliscened" salvage.

There's sovereign eezo in the SR-2?! I know the stuff's inanimate, but has it been screened and decontaminated?

Well to be fair, my memory could be playing tricks on me there, but the fact is Eezo is a raw element, there really can't be an indoctrination signal coming from it, especially since the core is heavily HEAVILY shielded.

Morever, personally as I see it, to make a eezo core it is probably purified, slag allowed to run off, the eezo melted and then supercompacted into rods or potentially cubes before being put into the core and fuel used to generate an electrical charge, which is then sent through the core, creating the Mass Effect.

Still, the reapers were capable of doing far more with their eezo cores than anyone else in the council cycle. What prevents them from using, I dunno, a nanite slurry in the eezo that actively manages it for greater efficiency or more sophisticated manipulation? Or a booby trap in case the primitives get the bright idea of knicking their juice?

What makes eezo from Sovereign so special that Cerberus goes out of its way to get this eezo?

Um... mostly the fact that there was a ****ton of it and they were looking for ways to cut costs 

[byne]

Ok, I'm playing through Thessia now.

TIM just said: "Leng. The Commander has something I need. Please relieve her of it, and then bring me the data."

That line has always bugged me. He seems to be implying Shepard has something he needs that isnt the data on the Catalyst. What exactly is he referring to?

[Domanese]

Okay this is seriously weird. I started testing the gun trying to hear this "Shep... ard" sound people claim to hear but I don't hear it. Instead Im hearing a strange ringing, that sound like no gunshot. The sound after the bullet is fired gives a machine like breath or hiss. Im hearing this with my headset by the way, on dynamic setting with the sound up.

When Anderson breaks radio contact theres another instance of feedback akin to the reapers sound when they cut off or intercept a transmission.

Modifié par Domanese, 28 avril 2012 - 03:28 .

[ExtendedCut]

byne wrote...

Ok, I'm playing through Thessia now.

TIM just said: "Leng. The Commander has something I need. Please relieve her of it, and then bring me the data."

That line has always bugged me. He seems to be implying Shepard has something he needs that isnt the data on the Catalyst. What exactly is he referring to?

Isn't he talking about the Prothean VI? 

[ExtendedCut]

Sorry, double post.

Modifié par ExtendedCut, 28 avril 2012 - 03:27 .

[Arian Dynas]

It occurred to me, one way that the IFF even if it is only software and code, can transmit an indoctrination signal.

It's programmed to slightly short out small pieces of equipment, and force others to oscillate, creating low frequency hums and electromagnetic pulses.

Am I just crazy here or on to something? You be the judge.

[byne]

Domanese wrote...

Okay this is seriously weird. I started testing the gun trying to hear this "Shep... ard" sound people claim to hear but I don't hear it. Instead Im hearing a strange ringing, that sound like no gunshot. The sound after the bullet is fired gives a machine like breath or hiss. Im hearing this with my headset by the way, on dynamic setting with the sound up.

I hadnt seen people claiming they heard a Shepard sound before, but I do recall people saying they heard a sort of breathing sound (which they claimed was a different sound file depending on if you were male or FemShep) that was similar to the breath Shep takes in the rubble at the end.

[Simon_Says]

Arian Dynas wrote...

It occurred to me, one way that the IFF even if it is only software and code, can transmit an indoctrination signal.

It's programmed to slightly short out small pieces of equipment, and force others to oscillate, creating low frequency hums and electromagnetic pulses.

Am I just crazy here or on to something? You be the judge.

You're totally crazy. Here, take a seat next to these electronics. I guarantee you'll feel right as rain in no time.

[byne]

ExtendedCut wrote...

byne wrote...

Ok, I'm playing through Thessia now.

TIM just said: "Leng. The Commander has something I need. Please relieve her of it, and then bring me the data."

That line has always bugged me. He seems to be implying Shepard has something he needs that isnt the data on the Catalyst. What exactly is he referring to?

Isn't he talking about the Prothean VI? 

The Prothean VI would be the data on the Catalyst, and Shep didnt even have the VI, it was still installed in the beacon at that point.