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[MegumiAzusa]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Mass Effect has always been about a small amount of suspension of disbelief, but the amount that is required to believe that it would be possible to rewrite the DNA of the galaxy is far too much. How about systems whose relays haven't been activated? Do they not get to join in forced evolution too?

The codex states the Reapers just activate any Relay they come across as they don't fear the result and just use them to spread everywhere. Also as you can see the waves are quite big and even overlap most of the time.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 28 avril 2012 - 02:48 .

[Xavendithas]

MaximizedAction wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Guys, i went to the final battle with 100% of readiness, +5000 assets, and even so i didn't get the Shpard alive scene with the destroy ending. What did i miss?

destroyed the Collector base?
Saved Anderson from getting shot by TIM?

I destroyed the Collector base in my game and still got the breath scene. So do you only get the breath scene if you talk the Illusive Man into shooting himself?

Modifié par Xavendithas, 28 avril 2012 - 02:56 .

[Uncle Jo]

Big G13 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I just found this in another thread:

Taken from a post from gibbed on the Something Awful forums, this is the way the endings are described in the game's code:
enum EEndGameOption
{
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDestroyed,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDevastated,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOk,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOkShepardAlive,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthDestroyedAndReapersLeave,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthOkAndReapersLeave,
EGO_HarmonyOfManAndMachine,
EGO_Demo,
EGO_None,
EGO_MAX,
}

notice how for the Control ending it says BECOME A REAPER. Not become the Catalyst or become a being of light, no, become a f*cking Reaper.

The thing that bothers me about this great find is the line 'HARMONYofManAndMachine'  could this mean the devs saw synth. as the best ending? Someone please, for love of the goddess, shoot some holes in my thought process.

This really annoying me... Agree with "become a reaper" (though it would have been better to write be controlled by Reapers, since the IT states that it is not possible to control them and that's a trap... Or am I wrong ?)
But like BIG G13 and some others pointed that out this "Harmony Man/machine" is really bugging...

Not that I buy the synthesis is best ending (It sounds to me more like "Reapers want you ! Join the Harby's Army / Party !" ), but this plus the trolling tweets from Jessica and Gamble (yeah, yeah I know : not reliable source/ maybe talking their own opinion out)... Could it be that BioWare is preparing us, with homeopathical dose rates, to accept the fact that the ending must be taken at face-value ?  Hope I'm wrong though...

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 28 avril 2012 - 02:51 .

[MaximizedAction]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Mass Effect has always been about a small amount of suspension of disbelief, but the amount that is required to believe that it would be possible to rewrite the DNA of the galaxy is far too much. How about systems whose relays haven't been activated? Do they not get to join in forced evolution too?

The codex states the Reapers just activate any Relay they come across as they don't fear the result and just use them to spread everywhere. Also as you can see the waves are quite big and even overlap most of the time.

Btw, (among many things) still lacking an explaination: How did it take the Reapers only 6 months to reach a relay all the way from dark space? If they are 'so fast' then what was the point of Arrival and the death of all those Batarians if it didn't really help anyone to prepare?

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I just found this in another thread:

Taken from a post from gibbed on the Something Awful forums, this is the way the endings are described in the game's code:
enum EEndGameOption
{
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDestroyed,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDevastated,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOk,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOkShepardAlive,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthDestroyedAndReapersLeave,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthOkAndReapersLeave,
EGO_HarmonyOfManAndMachine,
EGO_Demo,
EGO_None,
EGO_MAX,
}

notice how for the Control ending it says BECOME A REAPER. Not become the Catalyst or become a being of light, no, become a f*cking Reaper.

The thing that bothers me about this great find is the line 'HARMONYofManAndMachine'  could this mean the devs saw synth. as the best ending? Someone please, for love of the goddess, shoot some holes in my thought process.

This really annoying me... Agree with "become a reaper" (though it would have been better to write be controlled by Reapers, since the IT states that it is not possible to control them and that's a trap... Or am I wrong ?)
But like BIG G13 and some others pointed that out this "Harmony Man/machine" is really bugging...

Not that I buy the synthesis is best ending (It sounds to me more like "Reapers want you ! Join the Harby's Army / Party !" ), but this plus the trolling tweets from Jessica and Gamble (yeah, yeah I know : not reliable source/ maybe talking their own opinion out)... Could it be that BioWare is preparing us, with homeopathical dose rates, to accept the fact that the ending must be taken at face-value ?  Hope I'm wrong though...

Or they are trying to turn some IT beleivers back to skeptics for maximum effect once the bomb hits...but I might just be optimistic.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Uncle Jo wrote...
This really annoying me... Agree with "become a reaper" (though it would have been better to write be controlled by Reapers, since the IT states that it is not possible to control them and that's a trap... Or am I wrong ?)
But like BIG G13 and some others pointed that out this "Harmony Man/machine" is really bugging...

Not that I buy the synthesis is best ending (It sounds to me more like "Reapers want you ! Join the Harby's Army / Party !" ), but this plus the trolling tweets from Jessica and Gamble (yeah, yeah I know : not reliable source/ maybe talking their own opinion out)... Could it be that BioWare is preparing us, with homeopathical dose rates, to accept the fact that the ending must be taken at face-value ?  Hope I'm wrong though...

I don't want to believe it but something inside me agrees..

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Mass Effect has always been about a small amount of suspension of disbelief, but the amount that is required to believe that it would be possible to rewrite the DNA of the galaxy is far too much. How about systems whose relays haven't been activated? Do they not get to join in forced evolution too?

The codex states the Reapers just activate any Relay they come across as they don't fear the result and just use them to spread everywhere. Also as you can see the waves are quite big and even overlap most of the time.

Btw, (among many things) still lacking an explaination: How did it take the Reapers only 6 months to reach a relay all the way from dark space? If they are 'so fast' then what was the point of Arrival and the death of all those Batarians if it didn't really help anyone to prepare?

It's still 6 months, in that time they could have prepared, and the Alliance even did to some extend. That's why Shep has such a hard time with it, even after all s/he's done s/he could not prevent it.
Also it would be more logical to assume the Reapers started their approach with Nazara's death.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 28 avril 2012 - 02:58 .

[Vahilor]

pirate1802 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...
This really annoying me... Agree with "become a reaper" (though it would have been better to write be controlled by Reapers, since the IT states that it is not possible to control them and that's a trap... Or am I wrong ?)
But like BIG G13 and some others pointed that out this "Harmony Man/machine" is really bugging...

Not that I buy the synthesis is best ending (It sounds to me more like "Reapers want you ! Join the Harby's Army / Party !" ), but this plus the trolling tweets from Jessica and Gamble (yeah, yeah I know : not reliable source/ maybe talking their own opinion out)... Could it be that BioWare is preparing us, with homeopathical dose rates, to accept the fact that the ending must be taken at face-value ?  Hope I'm wrong though...

I don't want to believe it but something inside me agrees..

If they really want to press the Syntesis Crap on people as face value and even best ending I think they should think about the nuclear impact that will hit them...

[Baldsake]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Guys, i went to the final battle with 100% of readiness, +5000 assets, and even so i didn't get the Shpard alive scene with the destroy ending. What did i miss?

same here.

[Big G13]

pirate1802 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...
This really annoying me... Agree with "become a reaper" (though it would have been better to write be controlled by Reapers, since the IT states that it is not possible to control them and that's a trap... Or am I wrong ?)
But like BIG G13 and some others pointed that out this "Harmony Man/machine" is really bugging...

Not that I buy the synthesis is best ending (It sounds to me more like "Reapers want you ! Join the Harby's Army / Party !" ), but this plus the trolling tweets from Jessica and Gamble (yeah, yeah I know : not reliable source/ maybe talking their own opinion out)... Could it be that BioWare is preparing us, with homeopathical dose rates, to accept the fact that the ending must be taken at face-value ?  Hope I'm wrong though...

I don't want to believe it but something inside me agrees..

Ditto.

[Golferguy758]

As an aside, more in relation to how many people say they won't support DA3 because of ME3.

Alan Schumacher makes me want to play DA3 just to support that team. He's been very nice in posting his fan opinions and makes me think that the DA3 team will learn from the ME3 team to make a good game and ending.

So, props to Alan. You are one of the few who keeps me vested in Bioware and getting DA3

[Uncle Jo]

Big G13 wrote...
Ditto.

Nah, let's keep hope it will be something better and not this (maybe already seen, but still fun):



"Oh and you'll die too. And all the  horses and roads in Middle-Earth will vanish. By the way did you know that Sauron and the Nazgul are working for Tom Bombadil ? True story."

[Baldsake]

Golferguy758 wrote...

As an aside, more in relation to how many people say they won't support DA3 because of ME3.

Alan Schumacher makes me want to play DA3 just to support that team. He's been very nice in posting his fan opinions and makes me think that the DA3 team will learn from the ME3 team to make a good game and ending.

So, props to Alan. You are one of the few who keeps me vested in Bioware and getting DA3

I'm not pre-ordering anything from BW again, I did so with DA2 and.. Well I hate to be a dick but that game sucked balls compared to Origins.. I'll wait for the reviews on DA3.. Not IGN's review though, they seem to be bedmates with EA.
As for people not supporting DA because of ME... That makes no sense whatsoever, if DA2 was as good as ME3 it would've been a great game.. Unlike a lot of people I can actually live with a bad ending, I hope they fix it, but if not then.. Well, too bad.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Big G13 wrote...
Ditto.

Nah, let's keep hope it will be something better and not this (maybe already seen, but still fun):



"Oh and you'll die too. And all the  horses and roads in Middle-Earth will vanish. By the way did you know that Sauron and the Nazgul are working for Tom Bombadil ? True story."

Pretty much sums up how ridicoulous the ending is.

[paxxton]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I just found this in another thread:

Taken from a post from gibbed on the Something Awful forums, this is the way the endings are described in the game's code:
enum EEndGameOption
{
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDestroyed,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDevastated,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOk,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOkShepardAlive,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthDestroyedAndReapersLeave,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthOkAndReapersLeave,
EGO_HarmonyOfManAndMachine,
EGO_Demo,
EGO_None,
EGO_MAX,
}

notice how for the Control ending it says BECOME A REAPER. Not become the Catalyst or become a being of light, no, become a f*cking Reaper.

The thing that bothers me about this great find is the line 'HARMONYofManAndMachine'  could this mean the devs saw synth. as the best ending? Someone please, for love of the goddess, shoot some holes in my thought process.

This really annoying me... Agree with "become a reaper" (though it would have been better to write be controlled by Reapers, since the IT states that it is not possible to control them and that's a trap... Or am I wrong ?)
But like BIG G13 and some others pointed that out this "Harmony Man/machine" is really bugging...

Not that I buy the synthesis is best ending (It sounds to me more like "Reapers want you ! Join the Harby's Army / Party !" ), but this plus the trolling tweets from Jessica and Gamble (yeah, yeah I know : not reliable source/ maybe talking their own opinion out)... Could it be that BioWare is preparing us, with homeopathical dose rates, to accept the fact that the ending must be taken at face-value ?  Hope I'm wrong though...

Or they are trying to turn some IT beleivers back to skeptics for maximum effect once the bomb hits...but I might just be optimistic.

This might be a hoax. In order to get readable type info you have to have access to the symbol files that are created during source code compilation. Unless some insider leaked it, it's not possible to get this info.

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I just found this in another thread:

Taken from a post from gibbed on the Something Awful forums, this is the way the endings are described in the game's code:
enum EEndGameOption
{
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDestroyed,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDevastated,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOk,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOkShepardAlive,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthDestroyedAndReapersLeave,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthOkAndReapersLeave,
EGO_HarmonyOfManAndMachine,
EGO_Demo,
EGO_None,
EGO_MAX,
}

notice how for the Control ending it says BECOME A REAPER. Not become the Catalyst or become a being of light, no, become a f*cking Reaper.

The thing that bothers me about this great find is the line 'HARMONYofManAndMachine'  could this mean the devs saw synth. as the best ending? Someone please, for love of the goddess, shoot some holes in my thought process.

This really annoying me... Agree with "become a reaper" (though it would have been better to write be controlled by Reapers, since the IT states that it is not possible to control them and that's a trap... Or am I wrong ?)
But like BIG G13 and some others pointed that out this "Harmony Man/machine" is really bugging...

Not that I buy the synthesis is best ending (It sounds to me more like "Reapers want you ! Join the Harby's Army / Party !" ), but this plus the trolling tweets from Jessica and Gamble (yeah, yeah I know : not reliable source/ maybe talking their own opinion out)... Could it be that BioWare is preparing us, with homeopathical dose rates, to accept the fact that the ending must be taken at face-value ?  Hope I'm wrong though...

Or they are trying to turn some IT beleivers back to skeptics for maximum effect once the bomb hits...but I might just be optimistic.

This might be a hoax. In order to get readable type info you have to have access to the symbol files that are created during source code compilation. Unless some insider leaked it, it's not possible to get this info.

It's not, enum names are stored in the files.

This screen shows also 4 enums for the endgame save:
EGS_LivedToFightAgain
EGS_MAX
EGS_NotFinished
EGS_OutInABlazeOfGlory

[ExtendedCut]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Big G13 wrote...
Ditto.

Nah, let's keep hope it will be something better and not this (maybe already seen, but still fun):



"Oh and you'll die too. And all the  horses and roads in Middle-Earth will vanish. By the way did you know that Sauron and the Nazgul are working for Tom Bombadil ? True story."

Haha! 

I always thought the end of the ROTK movie was a little dragged-out (especially since they nixed the Sarumon in the Shire scene), but now I realize that it was the best possible ending to such an epic trilogy.  I learned this, of course, by discovering the worst possible ending to an epic trilogy in ME.

[DirtyPhoenix]

What does EGS_MAX and EGS_OutInABlazeOfGlory denote? I know about the other two.

[Uncle Jo]

ExtendedCut wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Big G13 wrote...
Ditto.

Nah, let's keep hope it will be something better and not this (maybe already seen, but still fun):

*snip*

Haha! 

I always thought the end of the ROTK movie was a little dragged-out (especially since they nixed the Sarumon in the Shire scene), but now I realize that it was the best possible ending to such an epic trilogy.  I learned this, of course, by discovering the worst possible ending to an epic trilogy in ME.

Yeah true. And don't forget that the LOTR didn't end well for Froddo. He pretty much suffered from kind of PTSD (Rifneno I hope you'll read this) "The Shire was saved, but not for me" were his words I think...
It's absurd, from a narrative point,  to reveal in the last minutes of the end of a trilogy, that your archenemy is just a minion of someone you've never heard of before...

[MaximizedAction]

pirate1802 wrote...

What does EGS_MAX and EGS_OutInABlazeOfGlory denote? I know about the other two.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php

...interesting. Involves a lot of heavy risk...

[MegumiAzusa]

pirate1802 wrote...

What does EGS_MAX and EGS_OutInABlazeOfGlory denote? I know about the other two.

Blaze of Glory can be that shep is sacrificing him/herself.
MAX, as with EGO_MAX... idk

[Uncle Jo]

pirate1802 wrote...

What does EGS_MAX and EGS_OutInABlazeOfGlory denote? I know about the other two.

The last one means that you died for the sake of the galaxy (dunno if it applies to all the choices though). For the first one, no idea (maybe EMS / Galactic Readiness at max)...

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 28 avril 2012 - 03:53 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

What does EGS_MAX and EGS_OutInABlazeOfGlory denote? I know about the other two.

Blaze of Glory can be that shep is sacrificing him/herself.
MAX, as with EGO_MAX... idk

No what I meant was, I have savegames from all the three types of endings, and also unfinished games. The NG+ saves of finished ones read: LivedToFightAgain, in all three endings, while the unfinished ones read: Not Finished (obviously).. I'm yet to see the other two..

[spotlessvoid]

Taken from a post from gibbed on the Something Awful forums, this is the way the endings are described in the game's code: enum EEndGameOption { EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDestroyed, EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDevastated, EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOk, EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOkShepardAlive, EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthDestroyedAndReapersLeave, EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthOkAndReapersLeave, EGO_HarmonyOfManAndMachine, EGO_Demo, EGO_None, EGO_MAX, }

That is discouraging, but it's not impossible those are the face value names while IDT is still the true ending

[MegumiAzusa]

pirate1802 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

What does EGS_MAX and EGS_OutInABlazeOfGlory denote? I know about the other two.

Blaze of Glory can be that shep is sacrificing him/herself.
MAX, as with EGO_MAX... idk

No what I meant was, I have savegames from all the three types of endings, and also unfinished games. The NG+ saves of finished ones read: LivedToFightAgain, in all three endings, while the unfinished ones read: Not Finished (obviously).. I'm yet to see the other two..

Try the legend save.