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pirate1802 wrote...
UrgedDuke wrote...
Like many have said before, the process of indoctrination and actually being indoctrinated is two different things.
Like dying is not the same as being dead.. is that a good analogy?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]
Modifié par balance5050, 28 avril 2012 - 06:03 .
estebanus wrote...
I noticed something else that's stupid about synthesis.
Starchild says that synthesis is the final stage of evolution for all organic life. That means that we're at the apex of evolution. That we will no longer evolve. If that is true, wouldn't it mean that dogs, that would also have evolved, suddenly be able to build up their own civilization? Wouldn't the most inferior organic being become intelligent, since it would have arrived at its last stage of evolution?
Also, if one has already reached one's apex of evolution, that means that everything can only go downhill from there, since nothing new will have been acquired.
P.S. My brother told me I should say hello to everyone here! He and I have both been following this thread since almost the beginning, and he's happy that we're still finding more and more evidence!
and hello to you and your brother too. 
balance5050 wrote...
pirate1802 wrote...
UrgedDuke wrote...
Like many have said before, the process of indoctrination and actually being indoctrinated is two different things.
Like dying is not the same as being dead.. is that a good analogy?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]
Actually that is a good analogy.
Modifié par Ch1m3Ra, 28 avril 2012 - 06:15 .
balance5050 wrote...
pirate1802 wrote...
UrgedDuke wrote...
Like many have said before, the process of indoctrination and actually being indoctrinated is two different things.
Like dying is not the same as being dead.. is that a good analogy?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]
Actually that is a good analogy.
Ch1m3Ra wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
pirate1802 wrote...
UrgedDuke wrote...
Like many have said before, the process of indoctrination and actually being indoctrinated is two different things.
Like dying is not the same as being dead.. is that a good analogy?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]
Actually that is a good analogy.
Pretty much.
Edit: Quoted me wrongly
Agreed. The Rachni are quite a deal. I remember Hackett speaking about them, saying "they have a great sense for galactic war" and to know how come they reached such a degree of intelligence while having such a brutal und uncompromising behavior. Does it have something to do with a war/invasion prior to the two ones we know ?Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Off course, but as has been mentioned many players would probably be a bit butthurt if two of three choices ended in automatic game over (though it woyuld also be kinda awesome) This is just possible scenarios for avoding it without actually forcing a player to pick destroy.
Besidesthe trope about a certain object creating a focus for a character to break free of mind effects is old. The crystal might be weak in this context (and why I placed it lowest) but something like Javiks memory shard flooding Shepards mind with the memories he had I would personally consider quite feasiable for making him at least stop for a moment and think a second time.
The Rachni Queen however is the heart of my idea. I wont deny that I am really fascianted with the Rachni and want to learn more about them, but the idea of the Rachni Queen sacrificing itself (and basicly its entire species) to save Shepard and through that the rest of the galaxy would be a nice little redemption arc in face of the two majors wars Rachni have been involved with in the past (Prothean and off course the Rachni Wars) as well as adding an option ofr players who pick the wrong choice.
But off course it is only ideas.
One more time, my point, just as always, better worded and explained. In a few days I'll start to work on my master thesis in architecture (in german and french though). I know who I should ask, if I want some corrections or an english version of itHellishFiend wrote...
Yeah obviously you wouldnt want the indoctrination process to be trivialized, so either it would have to be difficult to meet the prerequisites and/or there would have to be some consequences for having to fall back on it.
Rifneno wrote...
*snip*
I don't know... it could work in a way. They've said the end of Mass Effect's trilogy is the end of Shepard's story but likely not the last we'll see of the ME universe. Given that we're likely to see more ME games, I could deal with revelation of the Reapers having masters out there that still have to be dealt with in future games. IF,and only IF they are not an immediate threat and we can't currently attack them. Most likely this would be due to distance, them residing in another galaxy and such. In other words the war is truly over and we didn't just move onto stage 2 immediately. The characters we know and love are safe and they've earned their peace. Battle with the Reapers' masters could take place hundreds if not thousands of years later.
On the other hand, it wouldn't be hard to come up with another enemy. Less than 1% of the Milky Way is known. They can come up with any number of possible threats. To be truthful, I think they wasted a real opportunity by having the Reapers destroy the batarians early on. They would've worked well for the next game. Imagine if the batarians invented something new and immensely powerful that they could use for war. Pretty much everybody hates those bastards. They'd be good villains. At least the hegemony themselves.
*snip*
Modifié par Uncle Jo, 28 avril 2012 - 06:39 .
pirate1802 wrote...
Ch1m3Ra wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
pirate1802 wrote...
UrgedDuke wrote...
Like many have said before, the process of indoctrination and actually being indoctrinated is two different things.
Like dying is not the same as being dead.. is that a good analogy?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]
Actually that is a good analogy.
Pretty much.
Edit: Quoted me wrongly
Yeah, sorry for that; still feeling my way around the forums xD
Ch1m3Ra wrote...
Actually I think it is balance5050 who misquoted me :X
balance5050 wrote...
Ch1m3Ra wrote...
Actually I think it is balance5050 who misquoted me :X
Sorry, any edit you want me to do cause I don't know what youre referring to.
Synthesis IS stupid, and what you said is true, although enhancements/upgrades are still possible....estebanus wrote...
I noticed something else that's stupid about synthesis.
Starchild says that synthesis is the final stage of evolution for all organic life. That means that we're at the apex of evolution. That we will no longer evolve. If that is true, wouldn't it mean that dogs, that would also have evolved, suddenly be able to build up their own civilization? Wouldn't the most inferior organic being become intelligent, since it would have arrived at its last stage of evolution?
Also, if one has already reached one's apex of evolution, that means that everything can only go downhill from there, since nothing new will have been acquired.
P.S. My brother told me I should say hello to everyone here! He and I have both been following this thread since almost the beginning, and he's happy that we're still finding more and more evidence!
!
Modifié par Uncle Jo, 28 avril 2012 - 06:33 .
Sounds more like the editor just interprets the bool if it's a NG+ as that enum.pirate1802 wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Try the legend save.pirate1802 wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Blaze of Glory can be that shep is sacrificing him/herself.pirate1802 wrote...
What does EGS_MAX and EGS_OutInABlazeOfGlory denote? I know about the other two.
MAX, as with EGO_MAX... idk
No what I meant was, I have savegames from all the three types of endings, and also unfinished games. The NG+ saves of finished ones read: LivedToFightAgain, in all three endings, while the unfinished ones read: Not Finished (obviously).. I'm yet to see the other two..
Legend save's got not finished..
Dunno, maybe with the size optimization switch, but I doubt it.paxxton wrote...
Is there a way to change that?MegumiAzusa wrote...
That is just the standard how VS compiles c++ enums.paxxton wrote...
Why would BioWare programmers include readable type info in a compiled executable? This approach just increases file size and memory requirements.
Uncle Jo wrote...
Synthesis IS stupid, and what you said is true, although enhancements/upgrades are still possible....estebanus wrote...
I noticed something else that's stupid about synthesis.
Starchild says that synthesis is the final stage of evolution for all organic life. That means that we're at the apex of evolution. That we will no longer evolve. If that is true, wouldn't it mean that dogs, that would also have evolved, suddenly be able to build up their own civilization? Wouldn't the most inferior organic being become intelligent, since it would have arrived at its last stage of evolution?
Also, if one has already reached one's apex of evolution, that means that everything can only go downhill from there, since nothing new will have been acquired.
P.S. My brother told me I should say hello to everyone here! He and I have both been following this thread since almost the beginning, and he's happy that we're still finding more and more evidence!
Hello to both of you
It certainly is.Rifneno wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Btw, (among many things) still lacking an explaination: How did it take the Reapers only 6 months to reach a relay all the way from dark space? If they are 'so fast' then what was the point of Arrival and the death of all those Batarians if it didn't really help anyone to prepare?
Isn't killing batarians kind of its own reward?
MaximizedAction wrote...
Yesterday I replayed the Tuchanka missions (possibly the highpoint of the trilogy). And during the report to Hackett after the Genophage mission they wonder why the Reapers for example didn't attack the Yahg homeworld.
Shep's idea to this was "Yahg have teeth". What she prob means by this is they'd be a touch opponent. While I don't exactly see her logic, another more important thing crossed my mind:
The Starchild is legit in this case: Reapers only harvest advanced civs.
Now, assuming that he just twists this fact around to his advantage, aka what IT claims, what could be the REAL reason for not attacking the Yahg?
Is it self preservation?
- Maybe the Reapers don't want the Yahg'-souls'(?) among themselves, because it somehow harms them to not have advanced civilizations.
- Or in order to have something to harvest in a near future, they have to keep some (non bacterial) lifeforms alive.
Is this an argument against IT?
Modifié par estebanus, 28 avril 2012 - 06:46 .
Uncle Jo wrote...
Agreed here too. It might be just personal taste, but I still can't accept the idea of the Reapers having (a) master(s). The Starbrat really gave (and still gives) me hard times. A few hours ago a there was a discussion about what happens right after the Reapers are defeated and we found that there'll be enough tension between the existing races to give some white hairs to an eventual new spectre. Yes the Batarian were hated by almost every one in the galaxy (it could explain why BioWare wiped them out during the first assault of the Reapers) could have represented agreat threat too... Maybe the most immediate... We'll unfortunately never know...
estebanus wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Yesterday I replayed the Tuchanka missions (possibly the highpoint of the trilogy). And during the report to Hackett after the Genophage mission they wonder why the Reapers for example didn't attack the Yahg homeworld.
Shep's idea to this was "Yahg have teeth". What she prob means by this is they'd be a touch opponent. While I don't exactly see her logic, another more important thing crossed my mind:
The Starchild is legit in this case: Reapers only harvest advanced civs.
Now, assuming that he just twists this fact around to his advantage, aka what IT claims, what could be the REAL reason for not attacking the Yahg?
Is it self preservation?
- Maybe the Reapers don't want the Yahg'-souls'(?) among themselves, because it somehow harms them to not have advanced civilizations.
- Or in order to have something to harvest in a near future, they have to keep some (non bacterial) lifeforms alive.
Is this an argument against IT?
You know, I honestly think that Shepard was being sarcastic when saying "Yahg have teeth."
You're right about them harvesting only advanced races, but they don't necesarrily leave the young ones alone.
Example: Harvesters.
Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 28 avril 2012 - 06:46 .
From the Synthesis point of view there is no organic/synthetic life as such anymore. You don't need to make the distinction between them since they merged : there is now a new form of "orgathetic" or "synthorganic" life (God even the names don't make any sense. The synthetic parts could and should be artificially enhanced while the organic part could also naturally evolve on their own or collaborate... Think of it as sort of symbiosis...estebanus wrote...
Yes, upgrades are possible, however they would be artificial, not organic. That means that we create some kind of horrid and artificial evolution, where we wouldn't let nature run its own course!
Honestly, I couldn't imagine a worse kind of hell for organic life than that!
Uncle Jo wrote...
From the Synthesis point of view there is no organic/synthetic life as such anymore. You don't need to make the distinction between them since they merged : there is now a new form of "orgathetic" or "synthorganic" life (God even the names don't make any sense. The synthetic parts could and should be artificially enhanced while the organic part could also naturally evolve on their own or collaborate... Think of it as sort of symbiosis...estebanus wrote...
Yes, upgrades are possible, however they would be artificial, not organic. That means that we create some kind of horrid and artificial evolution, where we wouldn't let nature run its own course!
Honestly, I couldn't imagine a worse kind of hell for organic life than that!
I've just now read my comment again and advice you strongly to not give it too much credit...
estebanus wrote...
Uncle Jo wrote...
From the Synthesis point of view there is no organic/synthetic life as such anymore. You don't need to make the distinction between them since they merged : there is now a new form of "orgathetic" or "synthorganic" life (God even the names don't make any sense. The synthetic parts could and should be artificially enhanced while the organic part could also naturally evolve on their own or collaborate... Think of it as sort of symbiosis...estebanus wrote...
Yes, upgrades are possible, however they would be artificial, not organic. That means that we create some kind of horrid and artificial evolution, where we wouldn't let nature run its own course!
Honestly, I couldn't imagine a worse kind of hell for organic life than that!
I've just now read my comment again and advice you strongly to not give it too much credit...
That is my point: evolution is gone. That which has made us what we are, has ceased to exist. Nothing new will be added on, because it is gone. Nature is gone. Nothing that has made the galaxy beautiful, exists anymore.
Now, we're all just artificial, and unnatural.
We are an abomination in the eyes of nature and evolution.
estebanus wrote...
Uncle Jo wrote...
From the Synthesis point of view there is no organic/synthetic life as such anymore. You don't need to make the distinction between them since they merged : there is now a new form of "orgathetic" or "synthorganic" life (God even the names don't make any sense. The synthetic parts could and should be artificially enhanced while the organic part could also naturally evolve on their own or collaborate... Think of it as sort of symbiosis...estebanus wrote...
Yes, upgrades are possible, however they would be artificial, not organic. That means that we create some kind of horrid and artificial evolution, where we wouldn't let nature run its own course!
Honestly, I couldn't imagine a worse kind of hell for organic life than that!
I've just now read my comment again and advice you strongly to not give it too much credit...
That is my point: evolution is gone. That which has made us what we are, has ceased to exist. Nothing new will be added on, because it is gone. Nature is gone. Nothing that has made the galaxy beautiful, exists anymore.
Now, we're all just artificial, and unnatural.
We are an abomination in the eyes of nature and evolution.
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 avril 2012 - 07:08 .
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