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[EpicTacoProject]

One thing that strikes me as odd, the Catalyst says that choosing the Destroy option will kill all synthetic life INCLUDING SHEPARD.
How then is it possible that choosing this option will result in seeing Shepard inhale amidst the rubble? If it wasn't a hallucination, Shepard would be gone along with all synthetics.

Also, Joker abandoning Shepard, no ****ing way.

[xDarkspace]

Bfler wrote...

What I also ask myself is: Where is all the equipment, the armor and weapons? Before the run Shepard wears a full suit and some weapons and when he wakes up there is only simple clothing and a pistol.

you see causual wear becauce he wears it under his armour why wouldent you where normal cloths under that it would hurt like hell if you just had metal touching you chest and it would be very uncomfortable.

[Pedpickle]

http://media.tumblr....INqN1qlng5d.png

I follow this person on tumblr, and they posted this after choosing the destroy ending with highest rating. I'm not sure where it is in the info, but it's there. (I mean, I know the ending has shepard breathing, but at least this is officially recognized as shepard actually being alive)

and "lived to fight again" is a little.... suspicious

[PrivateFrost]

Bfler wrote...

What I also ask myself is: Where is all the equipment, the armor and weapons? Before the run Shepard wears a full suit and some weapons and when he wakes up there is only simple clothing and a pistol.

That's what made me think the ending was a hallucination. 

But I'm pretty sure that a direct hit [ was it one ? ] from a reaper probably destroy most of your things. 

[3Minotaur3]

Bfler wrote...

What I also ask myself is: Where is all the equipment, the armor and weapons? Before the run Shepard wears a full suit and some weapons and when he wakes up there is only simple clothing and a pistol.

Starting point of the Hallucination/dream theories...

[lavosslayer]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Lol this thread is entertaining. You guys are really grasping at straws here.


-Polite

care to indulge us with your superior interpretation then instead of telling us we're crazy and leaving?

[jackncoke28]

jackncoke28 wrote...

jackncoke28 wrote...

Terraforming2154 wrote...

tuzem2 wrote...

jackncoke28 wrote...

The idea of the indoctrination is that he is being lied to and made to think he's doing the right thing. Both Saren and TIM wanted what they felt was best. Just imagine them in that room faced with the same choices Shepard has. TIM chose control, Saren chose synthesis. destruction was the only that didntnseem to pray on sheps insecurity about being able to save everyone, which the star child's image was ment to convey

Destroy kills the Geth and EDI. Why would this be a good ending?

Honestly, I feel like the concept of sacrifice was played up more in this game than in the others.

Garrus mentions sacrifice twice - in one conversation when you first get him on ship, he suggests that humans want to save everyone and it might not be a possibility. He also dances around it as well after the VS stands opposed to Udina (he asks if you would have shot them if they hadn't).
Also, Javik has a very profound comment when Shep says she thinks she can win the war with honor intact. He says, "stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honour matters. The silence is your answer."

Of course this all may mean nothing, but I don't remember the other games pushing concepts like that at me before.

I think one of the bigest things being played up also is sheps inability to save everyone, people are dying all around him. The symbol of this is the child who sez to shep that he cant save him, the fact that the catalyst is using that child's image tells me that he is trying to play up that insecurity, forcing shepard to make the choice that sacrifices the least amount of people, regardless of the fact that the reapers will remain

Also to add to this i noticed for example that in the nightmares shep has after mordin sacrifices himself you can hear mordin's voice, playing up the fact that shep not being able to save the people he loves is getting to him

Sorry for bumping this, last time i swear lol
Something else that comes to mind regarding this whole shep insecurity thing that i've noticed is the fact that in the majority of paragon conversation choices regarding the war agianst the reapers shep tends to dwell on loss and death, where as in renegade choices he seem more confident and speaks about victory, maybe forshadowing the final 'renagade' and 'paragon' choices?

Modifié par jackncoke28, 12 mars 2012 - 06:07 .

[Berkilak]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Lol this thread is entertaining. You guys are really grasping at straws here.


-Polite

I've seen many a straw grasped at, but I've also seen quite a few legitimate and unignorable observations.

[Tashakov]

BlackDragonBane wrote...
I wanted to point out, not sure if someone already did but.... Did anyone else notice that when you go through the Conduit and arrive on the Citadel, Shepard PICKS UP another inifite god-pistol? What happened to the one he/she was just carrying?

Hammer-space.

It was returned to the void by Harbinger, for being too godly.

... Unfortunately, he missed one.

[Pyewacket]

Bfler wrote...

What I also ask myself is: Where is all the equipment, the armor and weapons? Before the run Shepard wears a full suit and some weapons and when he wakes up there is only simple clothing and a pistol.

The pistol I'll agree with, but it looks like most of the armor was blasted/melted off.  If you look at Shepard from the back while he/she is walking you'll notice that some of the armor is still on him/her.  But seriously, if you got hit by a blast strong enough to blow off armor?  You're dead, we're talking more than bruises.  Totally fishy.

[3Minotaur3]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Lol this thread is entertaining. You guys are really grasping at straws here.


-Polite

Indeed... At the very bottom of the sack...

[Dormin]

Sorry just about the god pistol, I know gameplay wise it is all about termal clips, but lets not forget that they can recharge over time.

[Berkilak]

PrivateFrost wrote...

Bfler wrote...

What I also ask myself is: Where is all the equipment, the armor and weapons? Before the run Shepard wears a full suit and some weapons and when he wakes up there is only simple clothing and a pistol.

That's what made me think the ending was a hallucination. 

But I'm pretty sure that a direct hit [ was it one ? ] from a reaper probably destroy most of your things. 

And gain others? Such as a pistol, if you weren't using one?

[Berkilak]

Dormin wrote...

Sorry just about the god pistol, I know gameplay wise it is all about termal clips, but lets not forget that they can recharge over time.

Not anymore. The cooling systems were entirely replaced with the thermal clip system. Shepard tells that to Verner.

[Dessalines]

Even Mass Effect 2 had a closiure ending if Shepard died on the final mission. It did not end with Shepard fallling into the chasm, and then fading to black. Think that is frustrated. It is not about getting a happy ending, but an ending make sense.

[WizenSlinky0]

Berkilak wrote...

PrivateFrost wrote...

Bfler wrote...

What I also ask myself is: Where is all the equipment, the armor and weapons? Before the run Shepard wears a full suit and some weapons and when he wakes up there is only simple clothing and a pistol.

That's what made me think the ending was a hallucination. 

But I'm pretty sure that a direct hit [ was it one ? ] from a reaper probably destroy most of your things. 

And gain others? Such as a pistol, if you weren't using one?

I'm sorry, did I miss when Bioware started to take into account weapon choices? I've seen more assault rifles come out when playing as a class that can't even use one...

[BlackDragonBane]

Berkilak wrote...

PrivateFrost wrote...

Bfler wrote...

What I also ask myself is: Where is all the equipment, the armor and weapons? Before the run Shepard wears a full suit and some weapons and when he wakes up there is only simple clothing and a pistol.

That's what made me think the ending was a hallucination. 

But I'm pretty sure that a direct hit [ was it one ? ] from a reaper probably destroy most of your things. 

And gain others? Such as a pistol, if you weren't using one?

Throughout all three games, pistol is pretty much the default weapon. 90% of the time, Shepard pulls it out to aim at someone's face.

[PrivateFrost]

Pedpickle wrote...

http://media.tumblr....INqN1qlng5d.png

I follow this person on tumblr, and they posted this after choosing the destroy ending with highest rating. I'm not sure where it is in the info, but it's there. (I mean, I know the ending has shepard breathing, but at least this is officially recognized as shepard actually being alive)

and "lived to fight again" is a little.... suspicious

I think he/she used this > 
http://svn.gib.me/builds/masseffect3/  

to get that line. 

[Berkilak]

BlackDragonBane wrote...

Berkilak wrote...

PrivateFrost wrote...

Bfler wrote...

What I also ask myself is: Where is all the equipment, the armor and weapons? Before the run Shepard wears a full suit and some weapons and when he wakes up there is only simple clothing and a pistol.

That's what made me think the ending was a hallucination. 

But I'm pretty sure that a direct hit [ was it one ? ] from a reaper probably destroy most of your things. 

And gain others? Such as a pistol, if you weren't using one?

Throughout all three games, pistol is pretty much the default weapon. 90% of the time, Shepard pulls it out to aim at someone's face.

For 2/3 games, he always had one.

[Elanor]

iamheartbroken wrote...

I'm beginning to think it wasn't a hallucination. Maybe... just maybe...

After Shepard gets hit by the beam, knocked out and near death, what happens is more of a mental battle against Indoctrination - Controlling the Reapers, and Synthesis both leading to Shepard mentally surrendering her will and dying. Choosing to destroy the Reapers, is Shepard refusing to surrender no matter what, and the confused images that follow are just jumbled together thoughts and fears and hopes, then Shepard wakes up with a sharp gasp of pain.

Okay, I'm the one dreaming, but hey... it's a nice thought.

It would be great.

[3Minotaur3]

Pyewacket wrote...

Bfler wrote...

What I also ask myself is: Where is all the equipment, the armor and weapons? Before the run Shepard wears a full suit and some weapons and when he wakes up there is only simple clothing and a pistol.

The pistol I'll agree with, but it looks like most of the armor was blasted/melted off.  If you look at Shepard from the back while he/she is walking you'll notice that some of the armor is still on him/her.  But seriously, if you got hit by a blast strong enough to blow off armor?  You're dead, we're talking more than bruises.  Totally fishy.

He was unconscious at the other end of the beam... Shepard went this way, and the gun that way...

Modifié par 3Minotaur3, 12 mars 2012 - 06:07 .

[Dessalines]

Berkilak wrote...

PrivateFrost wrote...

Bfler wrote...

What I also ask myself is: Where is all the equipment, the armor and weapons? Before the run Shepard wears a full suit and some weapons and when he wakes up there is only simple clothing and a pistol.

That's what made me think the ending was a hallucination. 

But I'm pretty sure that a direct hit [ was it one ? ] from a reaper probably destroy most of your things. 

And gain others? Such as a pistol, if you weren't using one?

And you can't use your biotic powers too. 

[BlackDragonBane]

adrianlocke647 wrote...

BlackDragonBane wrote...
I wanted to point out, not sure if someone already did but.... Did anyone else notice that when you go through the Conduit and arrive on the Citadel, Shepard PICKS UP another inifite god-pistol? What happened to the one he/she was just carrying?

Hammer-space.

It was returned to the void by Harbinger, for being too godly.

... Unfortunately, he missed one.

Must have. I never picked up on it until I played the ending a second time and was like 'wait... did I just pick up another pistol?'

[Thanatia]

no matter which pistol / assault rifle you use, your squad often default back to the standard one for some cut-scenes... but not in others >_<

[Madkipz]

"Choosing Destroy will kill EDI and the Geth."

Shepard is also partly synthetic as revealed in the Cerberus base. Later it is revealed that Shepard is the only synthetic mix worthy of using to form the basis for galactic DNA

Yet if you Destroy the reapers Shepard will wake up back in London ruins alive, and we have no proof of Geth or EDI dying other than the god child saying it will happen..

It's all bull**** and lies with that reaper. You can't trust a single damn word it says because it wants to use you to serve its own goals.

Modifié par Madkipz, 12 mars 2012 - 06:06 .