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[clennon8]

Shepard does appear to clutch the side of his stomach a few times, so I think there was an injury there, yes. Although the profuse bleeding doesn't seem to start until after the scene with TIM and Anderson.

Modifié par clennon8, 29 avril 2012 - 09:12 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, I've just got a private message from a guy with a possible clue for us.

Lavisti writes...

Hi there! I'm a real devoted Mass effect fan from Croatia. As most of the players, I'm also really disappointed with the ending and unlike many of the people I'm actively doing something, like spreading the word and participating in activities so Bioware would be aware that WE DO CARE.

Would also like to ask a favor. I had a heated argument with EA forum moderator about not being able to post on BSN, they wont let me. So I would just ask you if you could ask people in thread "was an ending just a hallucination - indoc theory" about a curious thing that camera doesn't allow you to see Shepard from the front when he ends up in the Citadel, I wanted to see if he's injured before final confrontation with TIM. That would resolve the question why is Shepard bleeding after shooting Anderson. I am a big fan of Indoctrination Theory so on my second playthrough I decided to pay attention to all the mishaps and plotholes in the game.



Anyway, Thank you
I'll keep holding the line!

I might pass out before you post a script but I'll keep an eye out for it.

As for not being able to see the front view of Shepard that doesn't seem too bad a thing. You do see a front view of Shepard when he/she is in the cutscenes, but I doubt you'd be able to see all of Shepard's wounds in any case due to lighting and details that mightnot have been put in. The blood in the "I'm proud of you" scene should be evidence enough that Shepard was wounded, badly, but the amount of blood not being there before that scene is an oddity.

I'm not sure if Arian told you this, or for anyone who hasn't come accross it yet, but some of us believe that (if Indoctrination Theory is true) Anderson as part of the hallucination is a manifestation of your willpower. Therefore, when you are forced to shoot him you are shooting a part of yourself. The same area where Anderson was shot is the same area Shepard holds and apparently bleeds out from during those scenes. When Anderson seemingly dies, you begin to lose strength in the hallucination, stumbling and crawling towards the arm control panel, until you seemingly die as well. But why would you get back up after being brought into the decision chamber if your willpower is dying?
"Wake up," the Catalyst says.
It's possible Shepard's willpower is still present, but weak after The Illusive Man's actions. This gives some credit as to why everything that happens in the Decision area seems surreal, the ending cinematics included.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 29 avril 2012 - 09:23 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

clennon8 wrote...

Shepard does appear to clutch the side of his stomach a few times, so I think there was an injury there, yes. Although the profuse bleeding doesn't seem to start until after the scene with TIM and Anderson.

The only time I saw Shepard definitivley clutching his/her side is after the TIM encounter. Before that his/her left arm appears limp as they move about. Although, it does look like the left arm is trying to clutch at the left side but falls short. I'll play through this again to be sure, but when I'm feeling more awake.

[DirtyPhoenix]

You can hold (shift + right click) and move around the camera with the mouse, works for other areas, never tried in the end sequence. BUT The question is, why would bioware make it a point to explicitly show that particular wound if it was not of any significance? Shepard was wounded in many other places, she could have died of any of those wounds.

[HellishFiend]

Actually guys, there is a way for you to very briefly see Shepard from the front during that sequence. You know when you're approaching the trigger point for Marauder Shields? Shepard momentarily loses his balance/footing and falls down. As he falls down, turn the camera to point in the opposite direction, and you can see him from the front for a split second before he automatically turns to match the camera angle.

Not sure if it will help, but thats what you were asking for, I think.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Well that's enough Indoctrination for me tonight, got work tomorrow goin to catch up on some sleep in the mean time. Take care everyone, *salute*

[HellishFiend]

The correct way to say it is:

I should go. =)

[GenObiOne]

It all looks like a hallunication. As Joker says, "EDI's just mad 'cos it makes all my footage look like a dream sequence." Harbinger put grease on Shepard's cameras Unlimited ammo, different armour, the 1M1 writing. I have a theory about that. It looks wrong. Human writing and structures in the Citadel! The 1M1 is written on the left-wing/gun of an Alliance fighter. It is mirrored on the right. Even then Shepard is being subtly coached to take the left-hand option, not the right-hand option. Later on the left you can see four wheels. They look like MAKO wheels (plus1) but it is like Shep's mind is trying to make sense of everything as reality bleeds into Harby's brainwashing.

[Rosewind]

HellishFiend wrote...

The correct way to say it is:

I should go. =)

Lol I get teary everytime Hackett says "Hackett out"

[DirtyPhoenix]

Hackett's VA was awesome. I'm glad they didn't kill him off.

[Rosewind]

Yeha he has a very sexy voice mmmmm .... umm excuse me lol

[MaximizedAction]

Rosewind wrote...

Yeha he has a very sexy voice mmmmm .... umm excuse me lol

So what, Thane's VA is suddenly not good enough, anymore?

[Rosewind]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Yeha he has a very sexy voice mmmmm .... umm excuse me lol

So what, Thane's VA is suddenly not good enough, anymore?

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Lol it was Jarvik VA , was wondering if he gets you high like licking Thane(I know wrong in so many ways). I am a sucker for a sexy voice Vega, Kaiden, Zaeed, Jarvik and Hackett all have sensual manly voices I love it!

[DirtyPhoenix]

Too bad I sound like someone half my age..

[Rosewind]

pirate1802 wrote...

Too bad I sound like someone half my age..

Sound like a 10 year old lol?

[SixG90]

woah!! Not here for 1 day and there is almost an HUNDRED of new pages... sooo, anyone can tell me what happened here, please?

[Ravereth]

mrs.N7 wrote...

woah!! Not here for 1 day and there is almost an HUNDRED of new pages... sooo, anyone can tell me what happened here, please?

Yeah I'm in the same situation... SO guys... please, please, please tell us 

[Arian Dynas]

GenObiOne wrote...

It all looks like a hallunication. As Joker says, "EDI's just mad 'cos it makes all my footage look like a dream sequence." Harbinger put grease on Shepard's cameras Unlimited ammo, different armour, the 1M1 writing. I have a theory about that. It looks wrong. Human writing and structures in the Citadel! The 1M1 is written on the left-wing/gun of an Alliance fighter. It is mirrored on the right. Even then Shepard is being subtly coached to take the left-hand option, not the right-hand option. Later on the left you can see four wheels. They look like MAKO wheels (plus1) but it is like Shep's mind is trying to make sense of everything as reality bleeds into Harby's brainwashing.

Lol, alot of this we already figured out ourselves. But we're impressed if you managed to do that on your own.

Welcome to the brotherhood.

Rosewind wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Yeha he has a very sexy voice mmmmm .... umm excuse me lol

So what, Thane's VA is suddenly not good enough, anymore? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Lol it was Jarvik VA , was wondering if he gets you high like licking Thane(I know wrong in so many ways). I am a sucker for a sexy voice Vega, Kaiden, Zaeed, Jarvik and Hackett all have sensual manly voices I love it!

 

Ok, I'll bite, what defines a sexy masculine voice for you?

Ravereth wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

woah!! Not here for 1 day and there is almost an HUNDRED of new pages... sooo, anyone can tell me what happened here, please?

Yeah I'm in the same situation... SO guys... please, please, please tell us 

 

Read this;
http://social.biowar...3/1810#11710055   if you haven't already, and then feel free to backpedal a few pages from this one.

Also, almost finished with my revised script... let me know if there are any logical or technical errors. It's late here and I wanna finish before I hit the sack, but I'm kind of ****ed up right now so...

[DirtyPhoenix]

Rosewind wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Too bad I sound like someone half my age..

Sound like a 10 year old lol?

Unfortunately yes, and thats another reason I hate that starbrat!

[schneeland]

Arian Dynas wrote...

[...]

Also, almost finished with my revised script... let me know if there are any logical or technical errors. It's late here and I wanna finish before I hit the sack, but I'm kind of ****ed up right now so...

Guess, you'll need to let us know where we can find it, then

[Arian Dynas]

schneeland wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

[...]

Also, almost finished with my revised script... let me know if there are any logical or technical errors. It's late here and I wanna finish before I hit the sack, but I'm kind of ****ed up right now so...

Guess, you'll need to let us know where we can find it, then

Oh that answer is easy. Right here. Get ready for a big fat wall of text in, oh say about 20 minutes.

[MaximizedAction]

Arian Dynas wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

[...]

Also, almost finished with my revised script... let me know if there are any logical or technical errors. It's late here and I wanna finish before I hit the sack, but I'm kind of ****ed up right now so...

Guess, you'll need to let us know where we can find it, then

Oh that answer is easy. Right here. Get ready for a big fat wall of text in, oh say about 20 minutes.

You know we love your walls!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 29 avril 2012 - 11:48 .

[Rosewind]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

[...]

Also, almost finished with my revised script... let me know if there are any logical or technical errors. It's late here and I wanna finish before I hit the sack, but I'm kind of ****ed up right now so...

Guess, you'll need to let us know where we can find it, then

Oh that answer is easy. Right here. Get ready for a big fat wall of text in, oh say about 20 minutes.

You know we love your walls!

I personally like Doors of text.....

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Rosewind wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

[...]

Also, almost finished with my revised script... let me know if there are any logical or technical errors. It's late here and I wanna finish before I hit the sack, but I'm kind of ****ed up right now so...

Guess, you'll need to let us know where we can find it, then

Oh that answer is easy. Right here. Get ready for a big fat wall of text in, oh say about 20 minutes.

You know we love your walls!

I personally like Doors of text.....

I like ceilings of text, then I can lie down on my back and read them.

[estebanus]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

[...]

Also, almost finished with my revised script... let me know if there are any logical or technical errors. It's late here and I wanna finish before I hit the sack, but I'm kind of ****ed up right now so...

Guess, you'll need to let us know where we can find it, then

Oh that answer is easy. Right here. Get ready for a big fat wall of text in, oh say about 20 minutes.

You know we love your walls!

I personally like Doors of text.....

I like ceilings of text, then I can lie down on my back and read them.

HA!