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[DJBare]

Assuming direct control



You know, I still cannot get over the fact that if you played arrival, Shepard was unconscious for nearly two days yet old harby decides not to take advantage of his nemesis?

[UrgedDuke]

UrgedDuke wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh and another thing: when shooting Anderson both grunts aren't by Shep. There is no female voice when playing as femshep. The hole is also already there when Shep is forced to raise the gun:

there is no femshep grunt or gasp or whatever you want to call it after the crucible docks and shepard goes to sit by anderson, so the double grunt could have been used for both as well

Shows the Femshep grunt is the same a manShep:

[Baldsake]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Baldsake wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Man, Bioware is seriously messing with our minds - whether indended or not.
How many of us have been actively listening for background noises in games before ME3?

Doesn't matter whether it's placebo stuff or real. They did get me into conspiracy mode - never been one.

Only 2 other games I ever listened closely to the backround noises were Amnesia and BioShock.. If you ever play BioShock you should sit back and listen, it's extremely detailed. But yeah, the ending has made us all think: '' This is so bad it can't be real''..

dead space 2

Yeah that one's good too, I thought Dead Space 1 was even more impressive, audio-wise, but it's been a long time since I played those games.. Oh and I don't like the game but audio-wise the new MOH is pretty good too, very different game though.

[Rosewind]

what hole?

[balance5050]

DJBare wrote...

Assuming direct control



You know, I still cannot get over the fact that if you played arrival, Shepard was unconscious for nearly two days yet old harby decides not to take advantage of his nemesis?

I think he tried, or at least pre-gamed it a bit.

"How are you feeling?"

"No more visions, if thats what you mean."

http://www.youtube.c...i0nEz--8#t=216s

[MegumiAzusa]

UrgedDuke wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh and another thing: when shooting Anderson both grunts aren't by Shep. There is no female voice when playing as femshep. The hole is also already there when Shep is forced to raise the gun:

there is no femshep grunt or gasp or whatever you want to call it after the crucible docks and shepard goes to sit by anderson, so the double grunt could have been used for both as well

Which one do you mean? Before Shep turns around? That is Anderson anyway, Shep hears his grunt and because of that turns around. I can't hear any grunt in that scene that would be maleshep specific.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 29 avril 2012 - 07:51 .

[Simon_Says]

If we could find the actual game file for that we can check it thoroughly. It may be the case that a female grunt got masked behind the others and it was an actually an effect similar to Starbrat's voice.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 29 avril 2012 - 07:53 .

[MegumiAzusa]

You guys don't use a headphone/headset? It's quite clear that it's not a female grunt and there is no broshep grunt.

[Simon_Says]

Crap. *Chomps cigar*

[Stigweird85]

Rosewind wrote...

I swear if it is just a slide show I am going to be annoyed and will think twice to play Bioware game.

This is my concern, a dragon age style text ending(which I didn't like in DA as it seemed a cheap way out) would be a tremendous slap in the face in the face of IT and non IT supports alike.

The only saving grace is that IF it was going to be a slideshow montage with extra text boxes explaining what happened then it could be churned out in weeks not months. Especially if you follow the Tali stock image controversay and the fact the in the War room many pictures were reused when you collected new assets for example you get the same image of destiny accesion and a surrounding fleet whenever you get ANY Asari war resources. 

Bioware have said summer which(at least to me) gives them right into August. which gives them 6 months to produce something. While 6months doesn't sound like much it is a lot of time when you consider ME2 and ME3 were only 2years apart. So in theory they have a quarter of the development time of a full title to produce an epilogue. It has to be more than just text boxes, right? 

[WinterCrow]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh and another thing: when shooting Anderson both grunts aren't by Shep. There is no female voice when playing as femshep. The hole is also already there when Shep is forced to raise the gun:

there is no femshep grunt or gasp or whatever you want to call it after the crucible docks and shepard goes to sit by anderson, so the double grunt could have been used for both as well

Which one do you mean? Before Shep turns around? That is Anderson anyway. I can't hear any grunt in that scene that would be maleshep specific.

Can anyone check Shep's model once you get up in the Citadel? I'd like to know if the hole just appears once you get into the beam or at the start of TIM-Anderson conversation, and I have no idea how to do it.

Anyway, it is still the biggest hint for me. The camera intendedly shows Shep's hand after the conversation, heavily bleeding, and the hole as well, like it's an important thing, like it's actually relevant that he/she's bleeding that much through the belly.

As I said before, I could pass some "IT hints" as poor writing or lazyness, some of them. But assuming the ending was rushed and poorly written when you're specifically shown things like this... it just doesn't fit for me. I don't think BioWare team is stupid. If they were in a rush, and they had no time to show Anderson's wound, for instance, they would've set the camera so the part when he got shot never showed. It's not even hard. If it was rushed and lazy they would've chosen not to show this kind of stuff so they wouldn't have to model/make textures/whatever.

But they chose those angles for the camera, those images, the blood, the gun you can actually shoot (instead of not being able like in public places) and a lot more stuff they could've avoided AND save some time. They took the long way. Why? Maybe it's IT, maybe not, but I refuse to believe the ending is just as we were told.

[DJBare]

This one is very obvious so I'm guessing it may have already been bought up in this sizeable thread

www.youtube.com/watch

Notice what happens to the oily whisps just before the renegade interrupt.

Modifié par DJBare, 29 avril 2012 - 08:12 .

[MegumiAzusa]

[quote]WinterCrow wrote...

Anyway, it is still the biggest hint for me. The camera intendedly shows Shep's hand after the conversation, heavily bleeding, and the hole as well, like it's an important thing, like it's actually relevant that he/she's bleeding that much through the belly.[/quote]
Actually the hands are the parts with the least blood on them. Both upper and lower arms are nearly completely covered while the hands have the least.[/quote]

[Baldsake]

DJBare wrote...

This one is very obvious so I'm guessing it may have already been bought up in this sizeable thread

www.youtube.com/watch

Notice what happens to the oily whisps just before the renegade interrupt.

What's also weird is how Anderson just kneels down to get shot without even putting up some sort of fight.. I know he just got shot but still.

[estebanus]

Baldsake wrote...

DJBare wrote...

This one is very obvious so I'm guessing it may have already been bought up in this sizeable thread

www.youtube.com/watch

Notice what happens to the oily whisps just before the renegade interrupt.

What's also weird is how Anderson just kneels down to get shot without even putting up some sort of fight.. I know he just got shot but still.

Also that he doesn't even act as if he's wounded!

[DirtyPhoenix]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh and another thing: when shooting Anderson both grunts aren't by Shep. There is no female voice when playing as femshep. The hole is also already there when Shep is forced to raise the gun:

The hole is also there before you arrive at the console. Dang I thought I was onto something

[RoyalGambit]

Btw, did they explain how TIM is able to control Shepard? Even the reapers can't instantly take control of an unwilling subject, so how does TIM do it? Through Shepard's implants? It just doesn't sit right with me.

Modifié par RoyalGambit, 29 avril 2012 - 08:22 .

[chevyguy87]

DJBare wrote...

This one is very obvious so I'm guessing it may have already been bought up in this sizeable thread

www.youtube.com/watch

Notice what happens to the oily whisps just before the renegade interrupt.

I never took notice to that before

[DirtyPhoenix]

After Shep wakes up in the keeper tunnel.

[balance5050]

pirate1802 wrote...

snip
After Shep wakes up in the keeper tunnel.

Now do one before the conduit.

[DJBare]

Baldsake wrote...

DJBare wrote...

This one is very obvious so I'm guessing it may have already been bought up in this sizeable thread

www.youtube.com/watch

Notice what happens to the oily whisps just before the renegade interrupt.

What's also weird is how Anderson just kneels down to get shot without even putting up some sort of fight.. I know he just got shot but still.

This is why I think Anderson is not real, or TIM for that matter, neither one of them suffer wounds from the shots.

[estebanus]

I still find it totally stupid that Anderson survives the run to the beam, but doesn't go up to the citadel, Then when Shepard finally wakes up, he doesn't want to help him/her, letting Shepard deal with the three husketeers and marauder shields (Hollowed be his name), then conveniently following him her up, not calling for him/her!

Also, Major Coates explicitly states that no one made it to the beam, but Anderson and Shepard both survive, and one isn't even wounded?

no, just...no.

[DJBare]

RoyalGambit wrote...

Btw, did they explain how TIM is able to control Shepard? Even the reapers can't instantly take control of an unwilling subject, so how does TIM do it? Through Shepard's implants? It just doesn't sit right with me.

There is a hint that he should not be able to, Maranda tells you about the control chip, the one TIM said no to.

[MegumiAzusa]

DJBare wrote...

RoyalGambit wrote...

Btw, did they explain how TIM is able to control Shepard? Even the reapers can't instantly take control of an unwilling subject, so how does TIM do it? Through Shepard's implants? It just doesn't sit right with me.

There is a hint that he should not be able to, Maranda tells you about the control chip, the one TIM said no to.

You know Anderson was months on Reaper-infested Earth, and at least a week in London before Shep arrived. Enough time to get indoctrinated.


btw video is processing on YT...

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 29 avril 2012 - 08:38 .

[RoyalGambit]

But usually control over reaper minions come in two forms. Direct control of their bodies (husks, Greyson, so on) or through manipulation (Saren and TIM). If you take the scene at face value, neither applies to Shepard. He isn't a husk, and he doesn't want to shoot Anderson. So what's going on?