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[MaximizedAction]

HellishFiend wrote...

[...]

I've thought about this too, and there's a couple of ways we can look at it. First, you can write it off because of the fact that breath scene is pre-rendered, meaning they'd have no choice but to make Shepard wear whatever is going to be in that scene. But that raises the question, why is the breath scene pre-rendered? Granted, a lot of the scenes towards the end of the game are, but they all involve space. The breath scene may be one of the only scenes in the game that is prerendered and doesnt involve space in some way. That might be specifically so that it cant be flycammed and used as definitive proof of Shepard's surroundings in that scene.

Haven't really thought about why the breathing scene is prerended. But I like your idea!

[Big G13]

spotlessvoid wrote...

WinterCrow wrote...

Just throwing some ideas in here...

What if the Reaper's motivation is actually what the Star Bieber tells you? They don't want synthetics to destroy all life in the galaxy... BUT it's not organic life they're concerned about, it's reaper life.

They have a lot of ways to mess with organics. They can indoctrinate organics, use the Citadel as an utopic place to forget about war, divide them and isolate every world and their communications, etc. But what about synthetics? The geth initially joined the reapers voluntarily, and not all of them did. In ME 3 they (again) voluntarily accept to get Reaper upgrades to fight the quarians.

What if it's synthetics that they're scared of, but no concerning organic life, but themselves? They don't harvest advanced civilizations so they don't oppose them, but to prevent their synthetic creations to do so.

But somehow, this time it was an organic being who really got to challenge them, the crucible "changed" things, created new possibilities. They are in danger now. Would this make sense?

It certainly could be part of their motivation

To use an unrelated analogy, If you can go back in time and kill your enemy DON'T, go back farther and kill your enemy's mother.
EDIT: Of coarse by that logic the cycle should have started much earlier.

Modifié par Big G13, 30 avril 2012 - 09:34 .

[spotlessvoid]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


The ANN is running off it's own timeline, concurrent with real world time, theing is in their timeline we have yet to reach the point of the Seige of Earth. I'm willing to bet there'll be more multiplayer events between now and then, more multiplayer expansion packs, both free and paid, representing major turning points in the war, until finally, things culminate with the release of the EC, revealing Indoctrination and the final seige of Earth, with DLC released between then and now being major battles and plot points, like the retaking of Omega.

Basically, I am saying Bioware developed their entire DLC release schedule around a story plot, so they could drag out the game over the course of the year, making sure no one forgot it, but the problem is that the ending that was supposed to keep us happy and content for a few months didn't leaving their plans entirely ****ed up, and them a bit upset and insulted that we weren't happy, so they have to move up the EC, either moving up the Seige of Earth DLC, or giving us the EC to make things more obvious so we're more content to wait for the war to run it's course.

I dont think Bioware will ever charge for the multiplayer expansion packs. They make their money off people buying the reinforcement packs. When new free expansion packs are released, people spend more money buying reinforcement packs to have chances to unlock the new content. 

Hmm, thinking about it, I agree,

And considering this is Bioware, whom is all about the story, and ALL about doing awesome things with big gambles, (see what I did there?) and considering they actually WORKED story into the Multiplayer itself, via the N7 missions and Resurgence, and already happen to be doing the whole ANN thing, And really, it would have been an awesome, incredible stunt had it worked from the get go.

A while back I asked you if you thought Bioware underestimated the backlash from the face value ending or overestimated their fans willingness/ability to see through it and grasp the indoctrination ending.

Judging by their reaction, it doesn't seem like they want people to believe in indoctrination theory. Do you think they initially assumed more would get it, but after the vitriolic response from fans decided to instead playfully troll us until the EC? Or do you think they always wanted to make it a big twist with a delayed reveal and knew there would be an uproar but got caught off guard by its ferocity?

Or is all going to plan?

[Rosewind]

I still think there was some sort of plan to this IDT or not something is just not right.

[Rosewind]

Edit: Stupid double post.

Modifié par Rosewind, 30 avril 2012 - 09:52 .

[MaximizedAction]

Rosewind wrote...

I still think there was some sort of plan to this IDT or not something is just not right.

Well, considering all hints and unexplained plot-'holes'...
Also, you can't say Reaper without Indoctrination. So the omnipresence of the former and the lack of the latter does make IT pretty plausible.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 30 avril 2012 - 10:01 .

[Arian Dynas]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


The ANN is running off it's own timeline, concurrent with real world time, theing is in their timeline we have yet to reach the point of the Seige of Earth. I'm willing to bet there'll be more multiplayer events between now and then, more multiplayer expansion packs, both free and paid, representing major turning points in the war, until finally, things culminate with the release of the EC, revealing Indoctrination and the final seige of Earth, with DLC released between then and now being major battles and plot points, like the retaking of Omega.

Basically, I am saying Bioware developed their entire DLC release schedule around a story plot, so they could drag out the game over the course of the year, making sure no one forgot it, but the problem is that the ending that was supposed to keep us happy and content for a few months didn't leaving their plans entirely ****ed up, and them a bit upset and insulted that we weren't happy, so they have to move up the EC, either moving up the Seige of Earth DLC, or giving us the EC to make things more obvious so we're more content to wait for the war to run it's course.

I dont think Bioware will ever charge for the multiplayer expansion packs. They make their money off people buying the reinforcement packs. When new free expansion packs are released, people spend more money buying reinforcement packs to have chances to unlock the new content. 

Hmm, thinking about it, I agree,

And considering this is Bioware, whom is all about the story, and ALL about doing awesome things with big gambles, (see what I did there?) and considering they actually WORKED story into the Multiplayer itself, via the N7 missions and Resurgence, and already happen to be doing the whole ANN thing, And really, it would have been an awesome, incredible stunt had it worked from the get go.

A while back I asked you if you thought Bioware underestimated the backlash from the face value ending or overestimated their fans willingness/ability to see through it and grasp the indoctrination ending.

Judging by their reaction, it doesn't seem like they want people to believe in indoctrination theory. Do you think they initially assumed more would get it, but after the vitriolic response from fans decided to instead playfully troll us until the EC? Or do you think they always wanted to make it a big twist with a delayed reveal and knew there would be an uproar but got caught off guard by its ferocity?

Or is all going to plan?

I see them as underestimating our anger, and overestimating the majority of fans both. Someone said it themselves a page or two back, "we're the only group doing what Bioware wants, speculating." They expected us to be happy with the ending as it stands, or at least satisfied, haveing us going "meh, it's not great, it's kind of a let down, and definately a Deus Ex ripoff, but meh, I got mostly what I wanted out of it. Now I'll go play some Multiplayer until I get bore..oooooh... new free multiplayer expansion pack for me? ****in, now I level up my Batarian soldier, and my Kro...oohhh! New Single Player DLC? COOL! I'm gonna start a new game for that, try another run thro...oooh! I finished my single player game in time for YET MORE MULTIPLAYER DLC!" And it would go like that, the people most interested in the story getting involved with stuff like ANN, seeing more of the war unfold via twitter, over a month or two, when suddenly, BIG NEWS! YOU GUYS WERE INDOCTRINATED THE WHOLE TIME! Unfortunately,  people got pissed, and one of two things happened, they are either making the EC to make indoctrination more obvious, so they can wrap up the game in an expansion pack/final Seige of Earth DLC, or they moved that DLC forward in the schedule.

So in short, that is what I think the plan WAS, now they're either sticking to the plan, playing Reapers to our Shepard, and pretending to be defending a facce value ending, "indoctrinating" more of us and waiting for more people to finish the game, maybe even answer some questions at PAX, announcing that the war continues on all fronts, but the backlash took them off guard. so either the plan has been scrapped and they are trying to adjust (less likely) or they chose to stick to the plan, despite the odds, giving vauge, cryptic hints about more planned, and generally trying to keep people's interest, because one thing we know, they wanted the ending memorable, and Mass Effect 3 would not be going out with a whimper if they stuck by this.

[liggy002]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

I still think there was some sort of plan to this IDT or not something is just not right.

Well, considering all hints and unexplained plot-'holes'...
Also, you can't say Reaper without Indoctrination. So the omnipresence of the former and the lack of the latter does make IT pretty plausible.

Yet people still don't seem to understand that.  They think that we are delusional and grasping at straws.

[estebanus]

Arian Dynas wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


The ANN is running off it's own timeline, concurrent with real world time, theing is in their timeline we have yet to reach the point of the Seige of Earth. I'm willing to bet there'll be more multiplayer events between now and then, more multiplayer expansion packs, both free and paid, representing major turning points in the war, until finally, things culminate with the release of the EC, revealing Indoctrination and the final seige of Earth, with DLC released between then and now being major battles and plot points, like the retaking of Omega.

Basically, I am saying Bioware developed their entire DLC release schedule around a story plot, so they could drag out the game over the course of the year, making sure no one forgot it, but the problem is that the ending that was supposed to keep us happy and content for a few months didn't leaving their plans entirely ****ed up, and them a bit upset and insulted that we weren't happy, so they have to move up the EC, either moving up the Seige of Earth DLC, or giving us the EC to make things more obvious so we're more content to wait for the war to run it's course.

I dont think Bioware will ever charge for the multiplayer expansion packs. They make their money off people buying the reinforcement packs. When new free expansion packs are released, people spend more money buying reinforcement packs to have chances to unlock the new content. 

Hmm, thinking about it, I agree,

And considering this is Bioware, whom is all about the story, and ALL about doing awesome things with big gambles, (see what I did there?) and considering they actually WORKED story into the Multiplayer itself, via the N7 missions and Resurgence, and already happen to be doing the whole ANN thing, And really, it would have been an awesome, incredible stunt had it worked from the get go.

A while back I asked you if you thought Bioware underestimated the backlash from the face value ending or overestimated their fans willingness/ability to see through it and grasp the indoctrination ending.

Judging by their reaction, it doesn't seem like they want people to believe in indoctrination theory. Do you think they initially assumed more would get it, but after the vitriolic response from fans decided to instead playfully troll us until the EC? Or do you think they always wanted to make it a big twist with a delayed reveal and knew there would be an uproar but got caught off guard by its ferocity?

Or is all going to plan?

I see them as underestimating our anger, and overestimating the majority of fans both. Someone said it themselves a page or two back, "we're the only group doing what Bioware wants, speculating." They expected us to be happy with the ending as it stands, or at least satisfied, haveing us going "meh, it's not great, it's kind of a let down, and definately a Deus Ex ripoff, but meh, I got mostly what I wanted out of it. Now I'll go play some Multiplayer until I get bore..oooooh... new free multiplayer expansion pack for me? ****in, now I level up my Batarian soldier, and my Kro...oohhh! New Single Player DLC? COOL! I'm gonna start a new game for that, try another run thro...oooh! I finished my single player game in time for YET MORE MULTIPLAYER DLC!" And it would go like that, the people most interested in the story getting involved with stuff like ANN, seeing more of the war unfold via twitter, over a month or two, when suddenly, BIG NEWS! YOU GUYS WERE INDOCTRINATED THE WHOLE TIME! Unfortunately,  people got pissed, and one of two things happened, they are either making the EC to make indoctrination more obvious, so they can wrap up the game in an expansion pack/final Seige of Earth DLC, or they moved that DLC forward in the schedule.

So in short, that is what I think the plan WAS, now they're either sticking to the plan, playing Reapers to our Shepard, and pretending to be defending a facce value ending, "indoctrinating" more of us and waiting for more people to finish the game, maybe even answer some questions at PAX, announcing that the war continues on all fronts, but the backlash took them off guard. so either the plan has been scrapped and they are trying to adjust (less likely) or they chose to stick to the plan, despite the odds, giving vauge, cryptic hints about more planned, and generally trying to keep people's interest, because one thing we know, they wanted the ending memorable, and Mass Effect 3 would not be going out with a whimper if they stuck by this.

I agree.

If Bioware has accomplished one thing with ME3, it would have to be the reaction of the fans.
Now, ME3 is probably one of the most discussed games in videogaming history!

[Zepheriah]

I've never really paid any attention to any of this ID theory stuff, but having read the OP's article, and watched the vids, i'm on board with it, its very clever indeed.

Could wonder if its too clever to be intentional, but Bioware do have some fantastic writers so i'd not put it past them.

Now i'm left hoping for a "Final Battle" DLC to see the ID theory play out as none of the current endings reflect my choices or have that "epic battle" feeling the closure of the series should give.

[Rosewind]

I agree with IDT lol, just saying if you do ignore it there is still something not right.

[Arian Dynas]

Rosewind wrote...

I agree with IDT lol, just saying if you do ignore it there is still something not right.

For the simple fact that to accept the ending and they way they are defending it as is spits callously in the face of logic itself otherwise?

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 30 avril 2012 - 11:02 .

[MaximizedAction]

Rosewind wrote...

I agree with IDT lol, just saying if you do ignore it there is still something not right.

Yep!

Now I started wondering about another thing:
If Shepard is or was on the verge of Indoctrination, how come none of the Normandy crew or others seem to be?
How about them? If there is a story twist that would cause a dramatical emotion from us players, then the unexpected indoctrination of, say, your LI? Like the-next-level-of-the-Collector-Normandy-ambush in ME2 kind of surprise
That one would've been so much easier to achieve than the huge effort of indoctrinating the players themselves.

So, could it be - or even, how could it NOT be, that some of your sqad must become slowly indoc'd?

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 30 avril 2012 - 11:06 .

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Does anyone know what the locked systems are? Are they new, or are they places we've been to in ME1 or 2? I know they're not named, but can anyone tell by position?

I don't know if they could anyway. I remember trying to check the position of a few systems for a theory I had a while back and I had to compare using combined maps of ME1 & ME2. The first system I checked taht was in both, Hawking Eta, had moved significantly between the two games. It was still in the same general vicinity but far enough that if it was unnamed you wouldn't know what it was from previous maps.

HellishFiend wrote...

I've thought about this too, and there's a couple of ways we can look at it. First, you can write it off because of the fact that breath scene is pre-rendered, meaning they'd have no choice but to make Shepard wear whatever is going to be in that scene. But that raises the question, why is the breath scene pre-rendered? Granted, a lot of the scenes towards the end of the game are, but they all involve space. The breath scene may be one of the only scenes in the game that is prerendered and doesnt involve space in some way. That might be specifically so that it cant be flycammed and used as definitive proof of Shepard's surroundings in that scene.

You know, I think you may be onto something there. I've thought about a hundred times, "damnit, I wish that scene wasn't pre-rendered so we could just get the damn model names". Never thought to wonder WHY is it pre-rendered. I mean it's not like it's visually stunning. It looks like ass. Foggy, smoky ass.

WinterCrow wrote...

Lately I've been talking to some people I know about IT and such. I know a few that, believing IT or not, just refuse to accept it is complete through DLC, and not in the main game. They just can't see the time lapse between ME3 and the DLC is what makes IT even stronger. If true, I would see it as pure genius. Playing outside the game, for once. I guess some people are just stuck in a traditional way of playin games and all this seems odd.

That said, I still think it's taking too long. IT would've been awesome if revealed one or two months after the release. This now is way too risky, even if they're giving everyone the chance to play and replay the game.

I agree completely. I'm not condemning them for taking a risky move or for "selling an incomplete game" or any of the other things people are complaining about... but I do think they're taking far too much time for EC. If this was all planned (and I don't see how it couldn't have been personally) then they should have delayed the game's release until they were reasonably done with EC. As it is, only the most dedicated fans will even still give a damn when EC comes out. They should have been ready to release the rest of the game in a month, tops, after release. Enough time for it to give a real mind**** to all those who didn't pick up on IT, but not so long that the casual fans didn't get bored and wander off to something else, forgetting about ME indefinitely.

As for people refusing to believe it, sadly it all comes down to the depressing fact that we (human beings in general) suck at this whole "logic" thing. Psychologists have a whole laundry list of known fallacies we use by default. We're basically programmed to argue with the goal of winning, not determining truth. The biggest issue IMO is that when confronted with a counterpoint by the opposing side, our minds immediately go to trying to find a way to defend their view against this new "attack" and completely skip over asking itself "hey, maybe I'm wrong?" Not to say people never do, of course. It just generally requires more conscious effort.

Annnyway, you know, if/when they do confirm our beliefs I hope they give us a rundown of the clues. Which ones we found that were intentional, which ones we were reading too much into, and hopefully, which ones we missed. It'd be fun to know.

spotlessvoid wrote...

"I brake for Pyjaks"
"Protected by a Paladin 3 days a week, you guess which 3"
"Live by the sword, get killed by Shepard"
"I'm famous in the Terminus Systems"

Let's see...

"Ahh yes, 'speed limits'. We have dismissed that claim."
"Mindoir. Still a better place to settle than New Jersey."

HellishFiend wrote...

I dont think Bioware will ever charge for the multiplayer expansion packs. They make their money off people buying the reinforcement packs. When new free expansion packs are released, people spend more money buying reinforcement packs to have chances to unlock the new content.

I agree, but more because I can't see anyone that would pay for MP DLC with all the problems it has. And that's coming from a guy that bought the $40 "guide" and opened it like 4 times.

Arian Dynas wrote...

I see them as underestimating our anger, and overestimating the majority of fans both.

Agreed with this as well. They likely expected moderate nerdrage. Instead the nerds turned into the Hulk and started punching tanks into the atmosphere.

As for all the Deus Ex ending comparisons, I want to point out Xenosaga's ending was similar in a way too. It was a fixed ending so no three doors of terrible, but it also turned religious at the last few minutes for no good reason, then destroyed the means of any decent space travel for a civilization spanning the galaxy, leaving everyone stranded, again, for no apparent reason. ME3's ending was about 60% Deus Ex and 40% Xenosaga.

[DJBare]

WinterCrow wrote...

Just throwing some ideas in here...

What if the Reaper's motivation is actually what the Star Bieber tells you? They don't want synthetics to destroy all life in the galaxy... BUT it's not organic life they're concerned about, it's reaper life.

I had expressed this opinion some time ago(cannot even remember which thread), Reapers have always seen themselves as the dominant species of the galaxy, organics advancing and creating advanced AI could certainly be viewed as a threat to their dominance since AI's cannot be indoctrinated, even the heretics were not directly controlled, Sovereign used their worship the same way cult leaders do, even Legion tells you the heretics were mislead and that Sovereign saw their worship as an insult.

[Arian Dynas]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

I agree with IDT lol, just saying if you do ignore it there is still something not right.

Yep!

Now I started wondering about another thing:
If Shepard is or was on the verge of Indoctrination, how come none of the Normandy crew or others seem to be?
How about them? If there is a story twist that would cause a dramatical emotion from us players, then the unexpected indoctrination of, say, your LI? Like the-next-level-of-the-Collector-Normandy-ambush in ME2 kind of surprise
That one would've been so much easier to achieve than the huge effort of indoctrinating the players themselves.

So, could it be - or even, how could it NOT be, that some of your sqad must become slowly indoc'd?

Because Shepard is the only one knocked out by Object Rho.

What? I stand by that, if you haven't played any of the previous games OR the DLC, the explanations for those don't make any sense either, why start now?

DJBare wrote...

WinterCrow wrote...

Just throwing some ideas in here...

What if the Reaper's motivation is actually what the Star Bieber tells you? They don't want synthetics to destroy all life in the galaxy... BUT it's not organic life they're concerned about, it's reaper life.

I had expressed this opinion some time ago(cannot even remember which thread), Reapers have always seen themselves as the dominant species of the galaxy, organics advancing and creating advanced AI could certainly be viewed as a threat to their dominance since AI's cannot be indoctrinated, even the heretics were not directly controlled, Sovereign used their worship the same way cult leaders do, even Legion tells you the heretics were mislead and that Sovereign saw their worship as an insult.

 

Don't make me chip in on this discussion. I've already said my piece about what I think the Reaper's motivations are. Check out my sig if you wanna hear my thoughts, otherwise I am staying non-partisan here.

Also, Rifneno, for the first time, I completely agree with everything you said in a post, congratulations. 

Though I personally think the only reason the EC is taking so long is because it took them completely by surprise. I doubt now that the EC is the final result. The war has just begun.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 30 avril 2012 - 11:21 .

[MaximizedAction]

Arian Dynas wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

I agree with IDT lol, just saying if you do ignore it there is still something not right.

Yep!

Now I started wondering about another thing:
If Shepard is or was on the verge of Indoctrination, how come none of the Normandy crew or others seem to be?
How about them? If there is a story twist that would cause a dramatical emotion from us players, then the unexpected indoctrination of, say, your LI? Like the-next-level-of-the-Collector-Normandy-ambush in ME2 kind of surprise
That one would've been so much easier to achieve than the huge effort of indoctrinating the players themselves.

So, could it be - or even, how could it NOT be, that some of your sqad must become slowly indoc'd?

Because Shepard is the only one knocked out by Object Rho.

What? I stand by that, if you haven't played any of the previous games OR the DLC, the explanations for those don't make any sense either, why start now?

[...]

I did play Arrival and you are of course 100% correct. I totally forgot that we already discussed in this thread the possible reasons and implications of Shepard going single on this particular mission.

A few pages back someone also mentioned the lack of sqad banter on Priority:Earth. Could IT provide a story-motivated explaination?

[RoyalGambit]

Sorta unrelated, but if IT turns out to be false, that's pretty much the end of the Mass Effect universe, (disregarding prequels). Simply no way you could make a new game aligned with both control, synthesis and destroy. Don't know if that's a good or bad thing though.

[WinterCrow]

Rifneno wrote...

I agree completely. I'm not condemning them for taking a risky move or for "selling an incomplete game" or any of the other things people are complaining about... but I do think they're taking far too much time for EC. If this was all planned (and I don't see how it couldn't have been personally) then they should have delayed the game's release until they were reasonably done with EC. As it is, only the most dedicated fans will even still give a damn when EC comes out. They should have been ready to release the rest of the game in a month, tops, after release. Enough time for it to give a real mind**** to all those who didn't pick up on IT, but not so long that the casual fans didn't get bored and wander off to something else, forgetting about ME indefinitely.

I also want to believe it was planned. It's perfectly possible, and I don't think BioWare is not capable of doing something like that.

Now that they're taking so long, seems to me that if it was indeed planned (and I think it was) they were really under pressure from EA so they used this both as a new gaming concept AND a way of winning some time they didn't have.

[Vahilor]

RoyalGambit wrote...

Sorta unrelated, but if IT turns out to be false, that's pretty much the end of the Mass Effect universe, (disregarding prequels). Simply no way you could make a new game aligned with both control, synthesis and destroy. Don't know if that's a good or bad thing though.

If IT turns out to be false than the only possible thing would be tu cut the endinbgs and make them totaly new.. but BW allways seems to show us they don't wanna change a damn thing on the endings cause of "artistic integrigy" blabla..

I hope for them now.. they go with IDT otherwise.. they will only make explained crap.. and the endings still will suck..

[Uncle Jo]

Someone pointed out that the Citadel was an indoc hub and I liked the idea... Do you think that's the reason the Council (aside from the human) has never undertaken some serious measures (on galactical scale) to prevent or at leat to prepare themselves against the Reapers.invasion, despite of the the attack of Sovereign and the multiple proofs (ME1 and 2) that something big is going to occur ?
I mean they're the leaders of the most powerful/advanced civilizations in the galaxy, who dealt well with the Rachni wars and the Krogan rebellion and yet are totally divided/clueless about how to counter the Reaper invasion ? I can't see them that useless...
Udina freaking out at the worst possible moment and trying to take control of the Citadel for Cerberus (I don't think it was clearly stated if he was indoctrinated or not), could be for me another hint

I've already asked about it without getting feedback though (or didn't find it), that's why I'm posting my question again..

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 30 avril 2012 - 11:58 .

[Rosewind]

What I don't understand about Arrival, where was the Normandy during that time you think after 2 days of radio silence they think something is wrong?

[MegumiAzusa]

Arian Dynas wrote...

I see them as underestimating our anger, and overestimating the majority of fans both. Someone said it themselves a page or two back, "we're the only group doing what Bioware wants, speculating." They expected us to be happy with the ending as it stands, or at least satisfied, haveing us going "meh, it's not great, it's kind of a let down, and definately a Deus Ex ripoff, but meh, I got mostly what I wanted out of it. Now I'll go play some Multiplayer until I get bore..oooooh... new free multiplayer expansion pack for me? ****in, now I level up my Batarian soldier, and my Kro...oohhh! New Single Player DLC? COOL! I'm gonna start a new game for that, try another run thro...oooh! I finished my single player game in time for YET MORE MULTIPLAYER DLC!" And it would go like that, the people most interested in the story getting involved with stuff like ANN, seeing more of the war unfold via twitter, over a month or two, when suddenly, BIG NEWS! YOU GUYS WERE INDOCTRINATED THE WHOLE TIME! Unfortunately,  people got pissed, and one of two things happened, they are either making the EC to make indoctrination more obvious, so they can wrap up the game in an expansion pack/final Seige of Earth DLC, or they moved that DLC forward in the schedule.

So in short, that is what I think the plan WAS, now they're either sticking to the plan, playing Reapers to our Shepard, and pretending to be defending a facce value ending, "indoctrinating" more of us and waiting for more people to finish the game, maybe even answer some questions at PAX, announcing that the war continues on all fronts, but the backlash took them off guard. so either the plan has been scrapped and they are trying to adjust (less likely) or they chose to stick to the plan, despite the odds, giving vauge, cryptic hints about more planned, and generally trying to keep people's interest, because one thing we know, they wanted the ending memorable, and Mass Effect 3 would not be going out with a whimper if they stuck by this.

I agree, and I thought it's this way for some time.
also:
The Reapers Were Created From Organics
They Reaped
They Waited
There Are Many Reapers
And They Have a Plan

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 30 avril 2012 - 12:25 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Rosewind wrote...

What I don't understand about Arrival, where was the Normandy during that time you think after 2 days of radio silence they think something is wrong?

Probably trying to get in contact with Shepard, but without knowing wher he was it might be a little hard to find him.