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DJBare wrote...

bigstig wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Need someone to analyse those echo's, I'm pretty sure some of them are vocal.

What's the latest theory? II've missed around 50pages:lol:

I removed visuals, sound only www.youtube.com/watch
Make up your own mind what you hear.

Just watched through a video from the exterior of the Shadow Broker ship for comparison for the lightning/discharge sound. It's hard to hear it, because these discharges happen near the capacitors with also a lot of gunfight going on at the same time.

But from what I tried to filter out is, on the ship the sounds are much more natural sound, in that they are more different from discharge to discharge. Unlike the ones on the Citadel, which all sound pretty much the same.

Also the discharges on the ship have a different 'accentuation'(?) to it. What I mean is, the emphasize during one discharge is more in the middle or at the end. Unlike the ones on the Citadel, which have an accentuation at the beginning. With a fading out at the end, not a fading in and then boom like on the ship. Therefore resembling more a gun then actual electric discharges like the ones on the ship.

I don't know if I'm explaining it correctly, but what I mean is, the sounds on the Citadel sound different to me than the ones on the Shadow Broker ship. These kind of differences shouldn't come from the form of the environment and walls, that would alter sound.

[Dwailing]

bigstig wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Arian Dynas - Indoctrinationist
SubAstris - Literalist
estebanus - Indoctrinationist
Rifneno - Indoctrinationist
Dwalling - Indoctrinationist
DJBare - Indoctrinationist
pirate1899 - Indoctrinationist
EpyonX3 - Indoctrinationist Cynic
GBGriffin - Literalist Apologist
byne - Indoctrinationist
Sammuthegreat - Indoctrinationist
lex0r11 - Indoctrinationist...

Wait - you're all Indoctrinationists, as in "indoctrinating entities"? No wonder you got so many convincing arguments and leave me all in superficial awe! SubAstris must have a really strong mind!

Or a very thick skull. 

Yknow, back in the earlier days of IT, someone on 4chan said I was indoctrinating BSN, claiming he'd never seen so many people on BSN agree on something before...

Maybe he was right!

No, as much as I hate to say this, I think people were still more united in hatred over ME Deception.  There wasn't a person on the board who actually liked it.  Well, there might have been a couple, but when I say a couple, I mean a couple out of pretty much everyone.  That thing was so bad, it almost makes a literal interpretation of the endings seem good.  Almost.  What can I say, you should see the list of inaccuracies in Deception.  Ouch.

I read deception, there was some issues my main problem was it was just a completely different standard of writing, the fist 3 novels stand on their own as good sci-fi novels whereas four just seemed a little rushed.  The only good thing that came out of out was a complete hatred of Kai Ling. Even that was started in previous books though

Yeah, a complete hatred of Leng for being a complete idiot.  Eating cereal in Anderson's apartment, peeing in a vase, killing Gillian with a SHARPENED TOOTHBRUSH.  OK, he's a bad*** in ME3, but ME Deception certainly didn't do him any favors.

[SubAstris]

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

In an infinite stretch of time, the chances of such things occurring are probably equal to just destroying the Reapers and letting people get on with it. However with in-built synthetics, organic hybrids would have a better understanding of how machines work, so that when they create new AI, they will be to control and counteract them much better

Dude, you just gave every Krogan synthetics, things are going to be a lot worse in the long run. That's why it's specist, war and genocide happen regardless of what the synthetics do.

So I'm assuming you didn't cure the genophage? Remember that everyone else has been improved by the same amount as well

No, I did cure the Genophage. So now the krogans can have batches of eggs in the thousands, they never get diseased, they now live longer then before (which was a thousand years). I'm saying that the Krogans take over the Galaxy with the synthesis ending.

And as I said, everyone else has improved as well. Imagine predator v prey scenario. Running at "x" speed, predator will catch half the amount of prey running at "y" speed. If due to natural selection both "x" and "y" speeds increase by 5 mph, supposing speed is the main reason for capture success, then the outcome would be the same. Predator has more speed to catch prey but the prey also has more speed to evade the predator. Therefore in the end things level out, the net result isn't much different

[Golferguy758]

liggy002 wrote...

byne wrote...

One thing I've sort of been wondering since my most recent playthrough:

Is it possible even the run towards the conduit isnt actually happening? I mean, a blind charge towards the conduit with a Reaper precision blasting all your troops is hardly the kind of tactic I'd expect from Admiral Anderson.

More like the tactics I'd expect from Sarge.

I noticed right before the conduit charge, you're talking to Anderson inside a troop transport, when suddenly the transport you're in shakes violently and the game cuts to black.

The very next scene, not even explaining what caused the shaking is this:



If you'll notice, the area they're standing has the same type of rubble Shepard is lying in at the end, including that one weird cord at the far right. Its even darker than the area near the beam, just like it is in the end. The Mako looking thing in the end could also just be the remains of the transport you were in.

It's possible but I would think that Shep could be indoctrinated after Harbinger drops down.  You see all of those weird comet looking effects when Harb comes down?  That could be him indoctrinating Shepard at that point.  Yes, it could happen before the run to the beam.  I'm still with the camp that the indoctrination begins after he gets blasted by the beam because that is the point from which things get really strange.

If you combine that thought with the breathe scene that shows the mako tire in the background (assuming it is one, of course) You can make the premise that the run is occurring in Shep's mind due to the crash. Makos are hella tough. To destroy one to the point that you couldn't ride it to the beam would require a blast of significant force.

If the mako was destroyed with shep and co. inside it is entirely plausible to have been ejected from the vehicle or stuck in the wreckage.

I thought it was strange that no one seemed to question what the hell just happened to destroy the mako with everyone inside.

[estebanus]

NeoDobby wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Arian Dynas - Indoctrinationist
SubAstris - Literalist
estebanus - Indoctrinationist
Rifneno - Indoctrinationist
Dwalling - Indoctrinationist
DJBare - Indoctrinationist
pirate1899 - Indoctrinationist
EpyonX3 - Indoctrinationist Cynic
GBGriffin - Literalist Apologist
byne - Indoctrinationist
Sammuthegreat - Indoctrinationist
lex0r11 - Indoctrinationist...

Wait - you're all Indoctrinationists, as in "indoctrinating entities"? No wonder you got so many convincing arguments and leave me all in superficial awe! SubAstris must have a really strong mind!

You know, there are probably more people that have contributed to this thread than are listed up there.

What about balance 5050? or Earthborn_Shepard? Or what about the esteemed Greywardencommander?

[Auralius Carolus]

Hawk227 wrote...

I still like Arian's explanation from a few days ago that there were supposed to be 2 separate endings. The face value ending goes over well for newbies who like how "profound" it is, while hardcore fans recognize the indoctrination and appreciate it for what it is. But they overestimated the hardcore fans, and people didn't get it, or didn't want it.

Rule #1: You never should like anything Arian says, EVER. He's always wrong, even when he copies someone that is exactly right. He's also a really poor shot with the Claymore M-300. How you can miss a close-range still target with a shotgun? I haven't the slightest idea.

And when it comes to the endings, one thing is certain- they were caught off-guard. The PR stunts and behavior displayed, and what little is known about the inside workings of Bioware Edmonton, suggests frantic and nigh-reckless pacing.

If the IT is real, they likely misjudged the degree of impact ingame evidence would have on players. Trying to play the line between being suggestive and discrete can be extremely difficult for a designer, and often requires careful planning, peer-review and redesign. Judging by some of the crude sequences in the ending, (circa 2000 body piles and Reaper/Cruiser displays, outside of the Citadel, that mimic a baby's mobile), they didn't get much out of the review and redesign department.

[Dwailing]

NeoDobby wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

In an infinite stretch of time, the chances of such things occurring are probably equal to just destroying the Reapers and letting people get on with it. However with in-built synthetics, organic hybrids would have a better understanding of how machines work, so that when they create new AI, they will be to control and counteract them much better

Dude, you just gave every Krogan synthetics, things are going to be a lot worse in the long run. That's why it's specist, war and genocide happen regardless of what the synthetics do.

So I'm assuming you didn't cure the genophage? Remember that everyone else has been improved by the same amount as well

No, I did cure the Genophage. So now the krogans can have batches of eggs in the thousands, they never get diseased, they now live longer then before (which was a thousand years). I'm saying that the Krogans take over the Galaxy with the synthesis ending.

Hmm, everyone got the best of all the races, right? The fertility and strength of Krogans with the biotic power, life span and attractivity of the asary, the quick thinking of salarians, the military thinking of the Turians - strange mix ... hmm, what was always said to be the best in the humans? Genetic diversity? Oh right, that's out...

They have reach but we have... actually, with Synthesis, we don't have flexibity any more.  Never mind. 

[balance5050]

NotAnotherDisplayName wrote...

Other than they can't get past their local systems due to all of the relays being blown up.  That and the story implied that the curing on the genophage was a rebirth for the krogan in more than one sense- both physically and culturally, which means they may not be after galactic domination.

But they always did have the best dialog lines, so maybe a Krogan empire isn't all that bad

Population alone allows the Krogans to take over whether they try or not. There are still FTL capable ships and they will belong to the krogan sooner or later.

[byne]

SubAstris wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

In an infinite stretch of time, the chances of such things occurring are probably equal to just destroying the Reapers and letting people get on with it. However with in-built synthetics, organic hybrids would have a better understanding of how machines work, so that when they create new AI, they will be to control and counteract them much better

Dude, you just gave every Krogan synthetics, things are going to be a lot worse in the long run. That's why it's specist, war and genocide happen regardless of what the synthetics do.

So I'm assuming you didn't cure the genophage? Remember that everyone else has been improved by the same amount as well

No, I did cure the Genophage. So now the krogans can have batches of eggs in the thousands, they never get diseased, they now live longer then before (which was a thousand years). I'm saying that the Krogans take over the Galaxy with the synthesis ending.

And as I said, everyone else has improved as well. Imagine predator v prey scenario. Running at "x" speed, predator will catch half the amount of prey running at "y" speed. If due to natural selection both "x" and "y" speeds increase by 5 mph, supposing speed is the main reason for capture success, then the outcome would be the same. Predator has more speed to catch prey but the prey also has more speed to evade the predator. Therefore in the end things level out, the net result isn't much different

Except it was always shown that krogan were superior in combat, to the point that the only way to defeat them was to stop them from having children.

Godchild calls synthesis the final stage of evolution or some such crap, meaning that other species arent going to evolve to be better than the krogan at any point. So the krogan can still take over the galaxy.

[Arian Dynas]

estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Arian Dynas - Indoctrinationist
SubAstris - Literalist
estebanus - Indoctrinationist
Rifneno - Indoctrinationist
Dwalling - Indoctrinationist
DJBare - Indoctrinationist
pirate1899 - Indoctrinationist
EpyonX3 - Indoctrinationist Cynic
GBGriffin - Literalist Apologist
byne - Indoctrinationist
Sammuthegreat - Indoctrinationist
lex0r11 - Indoctrinationist...

Wait - you're all Indoctrinationists, as in "indoctrinating entities"? No wonder you got so many convincing arguments and leave me all in superficial awe! SubAstris must have a really strong mind!

You know, there are probably more people that have contributed to this thread than are listed up there.

What about balance 5050? or Earthborn_Shepard? Or what about the esteemed Greywardencommander?

I remember them. But if you think I am going to take the time to write down the names of every contributor to this thread JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, you're out of your friggin mind.

[Sammuthegreat]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Arian Dynas - Indoctrinationist
SubAstris - Literalist
estebanus - Indoctrinationist
Rifneno - Indoctrinationist
Dwalling - Indoctrinationist
DJBare - Indoctrinationist
pirate1899 - Indoctrinationist
EpyonX3 - Indoctrinationist Cynic
GBGriffin - Literalist Apologist
byne - Indoctrinationist
Sammuthegreat - Indoctrinationist
lex0r11 - Indoctrinationist...

Ah sweet, I made it onto the list. I do think lex0r should have his own title though. Indoctrinationist Motivator or something similar. And Rifnerno's title should probably reference his acerbic methods of cutting trolls (or innocents who just got in the way) down to size...

[Dwailing]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

I still like Arian's explanation from a few days ago that there were supposed to be 2 separate endings. The face value ending goes over well for newbies who like how "profound" it is, while hardcore fans recognize the indoctrination and appreciate it for what it is. But they overestimated the hardcore fans, and people didn't get it, or didn't want it.

Rule #1: You never should like anything Arian says, EVER. He's always wrong, even when he copies someone that is exactly right. He's also a really poor shot with the Claymore M-300. How you can miss a close-range still target with a shotgun? I haven't the slightest idea.

And when it comes to the endings, one thing is certain- they were caught off-guard. The PR stunts and behavior displayed, and what little is known about the inside workings of Bioware Edmonton, suggests frantic and nigh-reckless pacing.

If the IT is real, they likely misjudged the degree of impact ingame evidence would have on players. Trying to play the line between being suggestive and discrete can be extremely difficult for a designer, and often requires careful planning, peer-review and redesign. Judging by some of the crude sequences in the ending, (circa 2000 body piles and Reaper/Cruiser displays, outside of the Citadel, that mimic a baby's mobile), they didn't get much out of the review and redesign department.

Rule #2: Never believe anything Auralius as of now thanks to his opinion of Arian. 

[estebanus]

Alos, has anyone noticed that starchild's eyes are indoctrinated?
For some reason all my screenshots are only black screens, so if someone could post a photo of him, we could all see it!

[Arian Dynas]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

I still like Arian's explanation from a few days ago that there were supposed to be 2 separate endings. The face value ending goes over well for newbies who like how "profound" it is, while hardcore fans recognize the indoctrination and appreciate it for what it is. But they overestimated the hardcore fans, and people didn't get it, or didn't want it.

Rule #1: You never should like anything Arian says, EVER. He's always wrong, even when he copies someone that is exactly right. He's also a really poor shot with the Claymore M-300. How you can miss a close-range still target with a shotgun? I haven't the slightest idea.

And when it comes to the endings, one thing is certain- they were caught off-guard. The PR stunts and behavior displayed, and what little is known about the inside workings of Bioware Edmonton, suggests frantic and nigh-reckless pacing.

If the IT is real, they likely misjudged the degree of impact ingame evidence would have on players. Trying to play the line between being suggestive and discrete can be extremely difficult for a designer, and often requires careful planning, peer-review and redesign. Judging by some of the crude sequences in the ending, (circa 2000 body piles and Reaper/Cruiser displays, outside of the Citadel, that mimic a baby's mobile), they didn't get much out of the review and redesign department.

*places the barrel of his claymore at the base of your neck* 

I can't miss from this range mother****er.

Unfortunately, you talks reel gud, so ima keep ya 'round.

[byne]

Arian Dynas wrote...

estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Arian Dynas - Indoctrinationist
SubAstris - Literalist
estebanus - Indoctrinationist
Rifneno - Indoctrinationist
Dwalling - Indoctrinationist
DJBare - Indoctrinationist
pirate1899 - Indoctrinationist
EpyonX3 - Indoctrinationist Cynic
GBGriffin - Literalist Apologist
byne - Indoctrinationist
Sammuthegreat - Indoctrinationist
lex0r11 - Indoctrinationist...

Wait - you're all Indoctrinationists, as in "indoctrinating entities"? No wonder you got so many convincing arguments and leave me all in superficial awe! SubAstris must have a really strong mind!

You know, there are probably more people that have contributed to this thread than are listed up there.

What about balance 5050? or Earthborn_Shepard? Or what about the esteemed Greywardencommander?

I remember them. But if you think I am going to take the time to write down the names of every contributor to this thread JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, you're out of your friggin mind.

Yeah, I mean I'm third to last. He barely even remembered to add me, and I started the thread.

[estebanus]

Arian Dynas wrote...

estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Arian Dynas - Indoctrinationist
SubAstris - Literalist
estebanus - Indoctrinationist
Rifneno - Indoctrinationist
Dwalling - Indoctrinationist
DJBare - Indoctrinationist
pirate1899 - Indoctrinationist
EpyonX3 - Indoctrinationist Cynic
GBGriffin - Literalist Apologist
byne - Indoctrinationist
Sammuthegreat - Indoctrinationist
lex0r11 - Indoctrinationist...

Wait - you're all Indoctrinationists, as in "indoctrinating entities"? No wonder you got so many convincing arguments and leave me all in superficial awe! SubAstris must have a really strong mind!

You know, there are probably more people that have contributed to this thread than are listed up there.

What about balance 5050? or Earthborn_Shepard? Or what about the esteemed Greywardencommander?

I remember them. But if you think I am going to take the time to write down the names of every contributor to this thread JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, you're out of your friggin mind.

Calm down, my good man!
Maybe we should stick to those who regularly contribute here then, yes?

[Dwailing]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

I still like Arian's explanation from a few days ago that there were supposed to be 2 separate endings. The face value ending goes over well for newbies who like how "profound" it is, while hardcore fans recognize the indoctrination and appreciate it for what it is. But they overestimated the hardcore fans, and people didn't get it, or didn't want it.

Rule #1: You never should like anything Arian says, EVER. He's always wrong, even when he copies someone that is exactly right. He's also a really poor shot with the Claymore M-300. How you can miss a close-range still target with a shotgun? I haven't the slightest idea.

And when it comes to the endings, one thing is certain- they were caught off-guard. The PR stunts and behavior displayed, and what little is known about the inside workings of Bioware Edmonton, suggests frantic and nigh-reckless pacing.

If the IT is real, they likely misjudged the degree of impact ingame evidence would have on players. Trying to play the line between being suggestive and discrete can be extremely difficult for a designer, and often requires careful planning, peer-review and redesign. Judging by some of the crude sequences in the ending, (circa 2000 body piles and Reaper/Cruiser displays, outside of the Citadel, that mimic a baby's mobile), they didn't get much out of the review and redesign department.

*places the barrel of his claymore at the base of your neck* 

I can't miss from this range mother****er.

Unfortunately, you talks reel gud, so ima keep ya 'round.

Yeah, you're not Church.  He could probably miss at that range. 

[SubAstris]

balance5050 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

**** that noise, I'll do it right now.

Literalist MEANS you take the ending at face value. You don't like the implication that it implies, we get it. Get over it, "cult" also has a negative connotation, but the word accurately describes Christianity (formed around a charismatic leader, centering their worship primarily around him.) So get over connotations. Live up to your name and TAKE THE WORD FOR WHAT IT LITERALLY IS.

Yet the clear implication when someone uses the word "cult" is that it is a small group ( I wouldn't call 2 billion Christians worldwide small...). Cult isn't really a good word to use to describe something bid like Christianity, it can mean a group forming around the charismatic leader, BUT ALSO implies a small group). Using the word, "religion" is much more appropriate. On similar grounds I object to literalist

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Arian Dynas - Indoctrinationist
SubAstris - Literalist
estebanus - Indoctrinationist
Rifneno - Indoctrinationist
Dwalling - Indoctrinationist
DJBare - Indoctrinationist
pirate1899 - Indoctrinationist
EpyonX3 - Indoctrinationist Cynic
GBGriffin - Literalist Apologist
byne - Indoctrinationist
Sammuthegreat - Indoctrinationist
lex0r11 - Indoctrinationist...

Wait - you're all Indoctrinationists, as in "indoctrinating entities"? No wonder you got so many convincing arguments and leave me all in superficial awe! SubAstris must have a really strong mind!

You know, there are probably more people that have contributed to this thread than are listed up there.

What about balance 5050? or Earthborn_Shepard? Or what about the esteemed Greywardencommander?

I remember them. But if you think I am going to take the time to write down the names of every contributor to this thread JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, you're out of your friggin mind.

Yeah, I mean I'm third to last. He barely even remembered to add me, and I started the thread.

And I salute you for it!

[balance5050]

SubAstris wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

In an infinite stretch of time, the chances of such things occurring are probably equal to just destroying the Reapers and letting people get on with it. However with in-built synthetics, organic hybrids would have a better understanding of how machines work, so that when they create new AI, they will be to control and counteract them much better

Dude, you just gave every Krogan synthetics, things are going to be a lot worse in the long run. That's why it's specist, war and genocide happen regardless of what the synthetics do.

So I'm assuming you didn't cure the genophage? Remember that everyone else has been improved by the same amount as well

No, I did cure the Genophage. So now the krogans can have batches of eggs in the thousands, they never get diseased, they now live longer then before (which was a thousand years). I'm saying that the Krogans take over the Galaxy with the synthesis ending.

And as I said, everyone else has improved as well. Imagine predator v prey scenario. Running at "x" speed, predator will catch half the amount of prey running at "y" speed. If due to natural selection both "x" and "y" speeds increase by 5 mph, supposing speed is the main reason for capture success, then the outcome would be the same. Predator has more speed to catch prey but the prey also has more speed to evade the predator. Therefore in the end things level out, the net result isn't much different

The Krogan can outperform every other race after the curing of the Genophage, it doesn't matter if other races were improved as well because the Krogan can beat everyone in breeding alone.

Curing the Genophage + synthesis = Krogan taking over the Galaxy.

[Dwailing]

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Arian Dynas - Indoctrinationist
SubAstris - Literalist
estebanus - Indoctrinationist
Rifneno - Indoctrinationist
Dwalling - Indoctrinationist
DJBare - Indoctrinationist
pirate1899 - Indoctrinationist
EpyonX3 - Indoctrinationist Cynic
GBGriffin - Literalist Apologist
byne - Indoctrinationist
Sammuthegreat - Indoctrinationist
lex0r11 - Indoctrinationist...

Wait - you're all Indoctrinationists, as in "indoctrinating entities"? No wonder you got so many convincing arguments and leave me all in superficial awe! SubAstris must have a really strong mind!

You know, there are probably more people that have contributed to this thread than are listed up there.

What about balance 5050? or Earthborn_Shepard? Or what about the esteemed Greywardencommander?

I remember them. But if you think I am going to take the time to write down the names of every contributor to this thread JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, you're out of your friggin mind.

Calm down, my good man!
Maybe we should stick to those who regularly contribute here then, yes?

I would suggest special mention for waldstr18.  He deserves special mention for being a complete and total jerk.  In fact, that could be his entry: complete and total jerk/troll.

[SubAstris]

byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

In an infinite stretch of time, the chances of such things occurring are probably equal to just destroying the Reapers and letting people get on with it. However with in-built synthetics, organic hybrids would have a better understanding of how machines work, so that when they create new AI, they will be to control and counteract them much better

Dude, you just gave every Krogan synthetics, things are going to be a lot worse in the long run. That's why it's specist, war and genocide happen regardless of what the synthetics do.

So I'm assuming you didn't cure the genophage? Remember that everyone else has been improved by the same amount as well

No, I did cure the Genophage. So now the krogans can have batches of eggs in the thousands, they never get diseased, they now live longer then before (which was a thousand years). I'm saying that the Krogans take over the Galaxy with the synthesis ending.

And as I said, everyone else has improved as well. Imagine predator v prey scenario. Running at "x" speed, predator will catch half the amount of prey running at "y" speed. If due to natural selection both "x" and "y" speeds increase by 5 mph, supposing speed is the main reason for capture success, then the outcome would be the same. Predator has more speed to catch prey but the prey also has more speed to evade the predator. Therefore in the end things level out, the net result isn't much different

Except it was always shown that krogan were superior in combat, to the point that the only way to defeat them was to stop them from having children.

Godchild calls synthesis the final stage of evolution or some such crap, meaning that other species arent going to evolve to be better than the krogan at any point. So the krogan can still take over the galaxy.

And can do so with destroy ending as well. In this respect, destroy (the "best" option) and synthesis are essentially the same, if you cured the Genophage

[Arian Dynas]

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Arian Dynas - Indoctrinationist
SubAstris - Literalist
estebanus - Indoctrinationist
Rifneno - Indoctrinationist
Dwalling - Indoctrinationist
DJBare - Indoctrinationist
pirate1899 - Indoctrinationist
EpyonX3 - Indoctrinationist Cynic
GBGriffin - Literalist Apologist
byne - Indoctrinationist
Sammuthegreat - Indoctrinationist
lex0r11 - Indoctrinationist...

Wait - you're all Indoctrinationists, as in "indoctrinating entities"? No wonder you got so many convincing arguments and leave me all in superficial awe! SubAstris must have a really strong mind!

You know, there are probably more people that have contributed to this thread than are listed up there.

What about balance 5050? or Earthborn_Shepard? Or what about the esteemed Greywardencommander?

I remember them. But if you think I am going to take the time to write down the names of every contributor to this thread JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, you're out of your friggin mind.

Calm down, my good man!
Maybe we should stick to those who regularly contribute here then, yes?

Oh hell no, I say go all out, list everyone by their affiliation (I only called Epyon a Indoctrinationist Cynic because he beleives IDT, but is constantly criticizing it in an attempt to trim off the more questionable evidence, while GBGriffin actually made good arguments against IDT, as well as spending his time making his side credible, therefore he is an Apologist.)

[estebanus]

The thing I like most about greywardencommander was how he compared the exploding mass relays with Shepard's neurons breaking down in the brain, or something like that.

[SubAstris]

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

In an infinite stretch of time, the chances of such things occurring are probably equal to just destroying the Reapers and letting people get on with it. However with in-built synthetics, organic hybrids would have a better understanding of how machines work, so that when they create new AI, they will be to control and counteract them much better

Dude, you just gave every Krogan synthetics, things are going to be a lot worse in the long run. That's why it's specist, war and genocide happen regardless of what the synthetics do.

So I'm assuming you didn't cure the genophage? Remember that everyone else has been improved by the same amount as well

No, I did cure the Genophage. So now the krogans can have batches of eggs in the thousands, they never get diseased, they now live longer then before (which was a thousand years). I'm saying that the Krogans take over the Galaxy with the synthesis ending.

And as I said, everyone else has improved as well. Imagine predator v prey scenario. Running at "x" speed, predator will catch half the amount of prey running at "y" speed. If due to natural selection both "x" and "y" speeds increase by 5 mph, supposing speed is the main reason for capture success, then the outcome would be the same. Predator has more speed to catch prey but the prey also has more speed to evade the predator. Therefore in the end things level out, the net result isn't much different

The Krogan can outperform every other race after the curing of the Genophage, it doesn't matter if other races were improved as well because the Krogan can beat everyone in breeding alone.

Curing the Genophage + synthesis = Krogan taking over the Galaxy.

If you truly believe that, then synthesis is not needed. The Krogan can beat everyone in breeding alone, improvements or no improvements. Your assertion that synthesis makes war caused by the krogan more likely is unfounded