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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh and for the ones not knowing where the hydra missile launcher can be found at the "last" objective:
*SNIP*


HAHAHA! What are Liara and EDI doing?

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xsdob wrote...

Your still in the rubble of alliance command in canada. Anderson's calling your name and your choice will dictate whether object rho has succesfully indoctrinated you or not.

I cannot agree, I accept that being knocked unconsious momentarily weakened Shepards will against indoctrination, but everything(accept maybe the child) is real, it's only after being struck by harbingers laser do I think it's all a dream influenced by the Reapers.

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Icinix wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh and for the ones not knowing where the hydra missile launcher can be found at the "last" objective:
*SNIP*


HAHAHA! What are Liara and EDI doing?

I am sure EDI is asking some girl stuff :D

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Staring contest lol

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DJBare wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Your still in the rubble of alliance command in canada. Anderson's calling your name and your choice will dictate whether object rho has succesfully indoctrinated you or not.

I cannot agree, I accept that being knocked unconsious momentarily weakened Shepards will against indoctrination, but everything(accept maybe the child) is real, it's only after being struck by harbingers laser do I think it's all a dream influenced by the Reapers.

Adrenaline does quite a good job as stated throughout the game, and she sure has some surplus of that when you look at her, wounds etc.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Icinix wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh and for the ones not knowing where the hydra missile launcher can be found at the "last" objective:
*SNIP*


HAHAHA! What are Liara and EDI doing?

I am sure EDI is asking some girl stuff :D


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Icinix wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Hmm just tested the "The Crucible has been destroyed." thing... time doesn't matter at all, I had the game running all the time I was sleeping and nothing happened, then walked up to a choice, turned around, walked a bit and bam, destroyed.


Yeah, it's really bizarre, the only thing that causes it is reaching the top of one of the platforms then turning back.


Its just a trigger after you move. Once you take your first step the game has a timer. Until then the timer doesn't start.
Although it is interesting when you reload after letting it blow up, the starchild is gone.


I'm pretty sure it's not a timer. MegumiAzusa tested it (see the quote) and I did too. You can walk about for as long as you want with no problem, but if you go up a ramp and then turn round and start walking back you'll get the game over.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

DJBare wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Your still in the rubble of alliance command in canada. Anderson's calling your name and your choice will dictate whether object rho has succesfully indoctrinated you or not.

I cannot agree, I accept that being knocked unconsious momentarily weakened Shepards will against indoctrination, but everything(accept maybe the child) is real, it's only after being struck by harbingers laser do I think it's all a dream influenced by the Reapers.

Adrenaline does quite a good job as stated throughout the game, and she sure has some surplus of that when you look at her, wounds etc.


Plus, you know...you don't invalidate your entire game by doing a Dallas.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Icinix wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh and for the ones not knowing where the hydra missile launcher can be found at the "last" objective:
*SNIP*


HAHAHA! What are Liara and EDI doing?

I am sure EDI is asking some girl stuff :D

EDI: " I was thinking about getting my platform painted blue. Joker seems to be fond of the Asari. What do you think?"

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Big G13 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Icinix wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh and for the ones not knowing where the hydra missile launcher can be found at the "last" objective:
*SNIP*


HAHAHA! What are Liara and EDI doing?

I am sure EDI is asking some girl stuff :D

EDI: " I was thinking about getting my platform painted blue. Joker seems to be fond of the Asari. What do you think?"


Which platform :P

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Rosewind wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Icinix wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh and for the ones not knowing where the hydra missile launcher can be found at the "last" objective:
*SNIP*


HAHAHA! What are Liara and EDI doing?

I am sure EDI is asking some girl stuff :D

EDI: " I was thinking about getting my platform painted blue. Joker seems to be fond of the Asari. What do you think?"


Which platform :P


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lol you are forgetting she has two platforms the ship and the body.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

when does IT start? Before or after the run?

I mentioned before that I now think it happens before- right after the shuttle crash. That scene is so abrupt, one moment there driving normally, the next there running down a blurry incline toward a beam. (This could also explain the pesense of the trees before getting hit) it is also the first time we see Anderson's gun.

Also I think we mentally envisioned harby, although he was somewhere nearby. Like maybe Shepard knew something was wrong and mentally added harby to give him a solid enemy. Opinions? I really recommend watching that scene again.



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MegumiAzusa

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Big G13 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Icinix wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh and for the ones not knowing where the hydra missile launcher can be found at the "last" objective:
*SNIP*


HAHAHA! What are Liara and EDI doing?

I am sure EDI is asking some girl stuff :D

EDI: " I was thinking about getting my platform painted blue. Joker seems to be fond of the Asari. What do you think?"

xD sigworthy if they weren't as small here >.>

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Rosewind wrote...

lol you are forgetting she has two platforms the ship and the body.

And the ship is already blue :o

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Rosewind wrote...

lol you are forgetting she has two platforms the ship and the body.

Well, which ever platform Joker finds the most visually pleasing of coarse.;)

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llbountyhunter wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

when does IT start? Before or after the run?

I mentioned before that I now think it happens before- right after the shuttle crash. That scene is so abrupt, one moment there driving normally, the next there running down a blurry incline toward a beam. (This could also explain the pesense of the trees before getting hit) it is also the first time we see Anderson's gun.

Also I think we mentally envisioned harby, although he was somewhere nearby. Like maybe Shepard knew something was wrong and mentally added harby to give him a solid enemy. Opinions? I really recommend watching that scene again.


This is cool. With now wondering where it actually started, we have something new to discuss.

Funnily, assuming the hallucination to start before the run would explain not only the trees but also the deleted scene where we see our sqad being shot down by Harbinger.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 01 mai 2012 - 02:33 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lol you are forgetting she has two platforms the ship and the body.

And the ship is already blue :o


Thought it was White and Black?

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Big G13 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lol you are forgetting she has two platforms the ship and the body.

Well, which ever platform Joker finds the most visually pleasing of coarse.;)


The one with the double doors hangar? :innocent:

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MaximizedAction wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

when does IT start? Before or after the run?

I mentioned before that I now think it happens before- right after the shuttle crash. That scene is so abrupt, one moment there driving normally, the next there running down a blurry incline toward a beam. (This could also explain the pesense of the trees before getting hit) it is also the first time we see Anderson's gun.

Also I think we mentally envisioned harby, although he was somewhere nearby. Like maybe Shepard knew something was wrong and mentally added harby to give him a solid enemy. Opinions? I really recommend watching that scene again.


This is cool. With now wondering where it actually started, we have something new to discuss.

Funnily, assuming the hallucination to start before the run would explain not only the trees but also the deleted scene where we see our sqad being shot down by Harbinger.


 

here is the video for others.. 

at around ~2min in the she shuttle crashes, and everything is blurry, also there is no "is everybody ok?" and shepard shows zero concern for his fellow teamates.

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Rosewind wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lol you are forgetting she has two platforms the ship and the body.

And the ship is already blue :o


Thought it was White and Black?


they put blue alliance stripes on it since its no longer cerberus.

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MadRabbit999 wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lol you are forgetting she has two platforms the ship and the body.

Well, which ever platform Joker finds the most visually pleasing of coarse.;)


The one with the double doors hangar? :innocent:

And the two ample landing pads. Don't forget the landing pads.B)

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llbountyhunter wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

when does IT start? Before or after the run?

I mentioned before that I now think it happens before- right after the shuttle crash. That scene is so abrupt, one moment there driving normally, the next there running down a blurry incline toward a beam. (This could also explain the pesense of the trees before getting hit) it is also the first time we see Anderson's gun.

Also I think we mentally envisioned harby, although he was somewhere nearby. Like maybe Shepard knew something was wrong and mentally added harby to give him a solid enemy. Opinions? I really recommend watching that scene again.


This is cool. With now wondering where it actually started, we have something new to discuss.

Funnily, assuming the hallucination to start before the run would explain not only the trees but also the deleted scene where we see our sqad being shot down by Harbinger.


 

here is the video for others.. 

at around ~2min in the she shuttle crashes, and everything is blurry, also there is no "is everybody ok?" and shepard shows zero concern for his fellow teamates.


I can't remember, but are you sure that's a shuttle? I thought it was a ground transport.

Anyway, I tend not to buy any theories about being indoctrinated before Harby's beam. Too much of a stretch for me.

ALSO why did I not notice this before? I totally don't remember this, but...

Blasted by Harby
http://www.youtube.c...ASQvI3PE#t=59s 

Space magic lift

(15.47 of same video)

Veeery similar (same?) noise. Because Bioware are lazy.

Modifié par SS2Dante, 01 mai 2012 - 02:49 .


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Lazy Bioware is lazy:
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SS2Dante wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

when does IT start? Before or after the run?

I mentioned before that I now think it happens before- right after the shuttle crash. That scene is so abrupt, one moment there driving normally, the next there running down a blurry incline toward a beam. (This could also explain the pesense of the trees before getting hit) it is also the first time we see Anderson's gun.

Also I think we mentally envisioned harby, although he was somewhere nearby. Like maybe Shepard knew something was wrong and mentally added harby to give him a solid enemy. Opinions? I really recommend watching that scene again.


This is cool. With now wondering where it actually started, we have something new to discuss.

Funnily, assuming the hallucination to start before the run would explain not only the trees but also the deleted scene where we see our sqad being shot down by Harbinger.


 

here is the video for others.. 

at around ~2min in the she shuttle crashes, and everything is blurry, also there is no "is everybody ok?" and shepard shows zero concern for his fellow teamates.


I can't remember, but are you sure that's a shuttle? I thought it was a ground transport.

Yes it's a standard ground transport.