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lex0r11 wrote...

And you know what she said after that tweet, don't you?

I think no one can use anything from the Mass Effect related twitter accounts.
Jessica in particular is doing her job, which is neither confirming nor denying anything to keep the community happy, not goind nuts and rioting on the sites.


What was that?  Could you post the link?

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I'm going to post the link to Jessica's exact words on the topic of the EC. http://twitter.com/#...120929086717952


And what about this....https://twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/190117365311213569


Because they'd totally spoil anything.


First, she didn't have to say anything. Second, it is hypocritical for IT theorists to take words that seem to support IT from her as evidence of it but completely ignore her as a source when it contradicts IT

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Rosewind wrote...

I still don't see tree reflections


Look VERY carefully at the highlighted areas.  I can see them, especially now that I know what to look for.

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Rosewind wrote...

I still don't see tree reflections


Me neither. please help me see the light!

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As i tried to point out, she said in another tweet that it was her opinion or something along the lines, not really good at finding tweets anyway. Maybe someone else might help.

But I'm sure someone posted it here before somewhere.

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lex0r11 wrote...

And you know what she said after that tweet, don't you?

I think no one can use anything from the Mass Effect related twitter accounts.
Jessica in particular is doing her job, which is neither confirming nor denying anything to keep the community happy, not goind nuts and rioting on the sites.


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Just her job.

Modifié par lex0r11, 01 mai 2012 - 05:51 .


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SubAstris wrote...


First, she didn't have to say anything. Second, it is hypocritical for IT theorists to take words that seem to support IT from her as evidence of it but completely ignore her as a source when it contradicts IT


And it is exactly as hypocritical for you to ignore her statements supporting IT (like the fact that she personally believes in it for at least one of her save files) and take anti-IT statements as fact.

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pirate1802 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

I still don't see tree reflections


Me neither. please help me see the light!


Look up pareidolia for a reason why this is given credence

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Epantiras wrote...

Requoting something that I've found around page 500 something of this thread...

Monochrome Wench wrote...

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Hi all,
I've been trying to keep up with the rampant pace of this thread for the past few days, and I figured I'd contribute something I noticed when poking around in one of the PCC files earlier.

http://i1265.photobu...n56/Oddity2.jpg

Whether this has been noticed before or not, it may not be damning evidence one way or another, but it at least provides something more to discuss. Which, let's face it, is all we can really do until whatever the embargo date Bioware has put up on any news has passed. ;)

(Edit: removed HTML code that didn't seem to work. Feel free to link directly if you feel inclined!)

OMG, I just checked the game, that environment map IS used. Its the floor. You can see the trees reflected if you look carefully enough. I'm trying to get a screenshot that shows it. Its really really subtle. Think i'm going to have to highlight the required 'bits'


Ok, here we go, trees in the floor (click for fullsize image):

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Reposting to help with seeing the trees.

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SubAstris wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I'm going to post the link to Jessica's exact words on the topic of the EC. http://twitter.com/#...120929086717952


And what about this....https://twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/190117365311213569


Because they'd totally spoil anything.


First, she didn't have to say anything. Second, it is hypocritical for IT theorists to take words that seem to support IT from her as evidence of it but completely ignore her as a source when it contradicts IT


My point is, they'll say anything from the literal ending is.. well.. literal as to avoid spoilers. They're not going to tell you "Yep, definitely on Earth. Fooled you!" now are they?

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Changing a bit the subject, but somebody has a clue of what is that planet the Normandy crashes?

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SubAstris wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

I still don't see tree reflections


Me neither. please help me see the light!


Look up pareidolia for a reason why this is given credence


How can you deny that the trees are there when we have the FRAKKING texture maps for the reflections?

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Rosewind wrote...

I still don't see tree reflections

Made a short video where I move around a bit pointing on the trees. With movement their shapes can be much better distinguished from the ground texture.


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SubAstris

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byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


First, she didn't have to say anything. Second, it is hypocritical for IT theorists to take words that seem to support IT from her as evidence of it but completely ignore her as a source when it contradicts IT


And it is exactly as hypocritical for you to ignore her statements supporting IT (like the fact that she personally believes in it for at least one of her save files) and take anti-IT statements as fact.


I don't deny the fact that she likes IT. But there is a difference between liking or wanting something to be true and it being true. If I would like to have a million dollars in my bank account, doesn't mean it poofs into existence. Even I have the "destroy" ending for my main save!

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Dwailing wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

I still don't see tree reflections


Me neither. please help me see the light!


Look up pareidolia for a reason why this is given credence


How can you deny that the trees are there when we have the FRAKKING texture maps for the reflections?


Look up denial for the reason he claims it lacks credence.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

I still don't see tree reflections

Made a short video where I move around a bit pointing on the trees. With movement their shapes can be much better distinguished from the ground texture.


I did see something very vague in the ground in the video.  Could you record it at a higher resolution?  480p would help, and 720p would probably be enough.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I'm going to post the link to Jessica's exact words on the topic of the EC. http://twitter.com/#...120929086717952


And what about this....https://twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/190117365311213569


Because they'd totally spoil anything.


First, she didn't have to say anything. Second, it is hypocritical for IT theorists to take words that seem to support IT from her as evidence of it but completely ignore her as a source when it contradicts IT


My point is, they'll say anything from the literal ending is.. well.. literal as to avoid spoilers. They're not going to tell you "Yep, definitely on Earth. Fooled you!" now are they?


Again, she didn't have to say anything...if BW want to release that information, that is their decision, even if it could possibly count as a "spoiler". From their point of view, if they are just going to continue the ending, they don't really care what wild theories the fans come up with, and to some, revealing anything at all, even the most minute details, would count as a spoiler. You only see it in a negative light because of your predisposition to IT, and that's fine

#48242
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Thanks Megumi! I'm going to rewatch the video right now.

#48243
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Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

I still don't see tree reflections

Made a short video where I move around a bit pointing on the trees. With movement their shapes can be much better distinguished from the ground texture.


I did see something very vague in the ground in the video.  Could you record it at a higher resolution?  480p would help, and 720p would probably be enough.

Seems YT is still processing, uploaded it as 1080p :P

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marcelo_sdk wrote...

Changing a bit the subject, but somebody has a clue of what is that planet the Normandy crashes?


I'm 99% sure that it's Zorya

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

I still don't see tree reflections

Made a short video where I move around a bit pointing on the trees. With movement their shapes can be much better distinguished from the ground texture.


I did see something very vague in the ground in the video.  Could you record it at a higher resolution?  480p would help, and 720p would probably be enough.

Seems YT is still processing, uploaded it as 1080p :P


I just rewatched it.  It's in 1080p now, and I'm pretty sure I saw at least one of the reflections.  I couldn't quite place the one highlighted in green in the picture, but I definitely saw the red highlighted one.  Or, it could be vice versa.  Point is, I saw at least one of the tree reflections.

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Guys this might seem crazy..but what if bioware isnt letting anything know untill we as a communty find ALL clues...

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Ravereth wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Changing a bit the subject, but somebody has a clue of what is that planet the Normandy crashes?


I'm 99% sure that it's Zorya


Given the environment of the planet, that would definitely seem to be a possiblity.

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Ravereth wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

Changing a bit the subject, but somebody has a clue of what is that planet the Normandy crashes?


I'm 99% sure that it's Zorya


There was also talk of it maybe being Aite. The planet from Overlord.

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Guys who are checking for the trees, I'm pretty sure you get the most clear view of them if you go and look at the control ramp. Can anyone confirm this? Pretty sure if you slowly walk up the control ramp the trees are quite visible (or at least more so than the rest of the area due to the angle).

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Dwailing wrote...

Thanks Megumi! I'm going to rewatch the video right now.

The frak? It also already was available as 720p but now you can only select 360p but speed it up/slow it down oO