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#48301
byne

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N7L4D wrote...

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

im done fighting you guys, but im still amazed by what you come with next.

but seriously, dont you think the reflections are a lot like jesus on toast?

Check the gamefiles yourself oO


He wont. He's too busy being a jackass. Just ignore him and he'll leave.



Thats a swear lol


Maybe I was calling him a male donkey. Did you ever think of that? ;)

Plus I was proven right as he very quickly confirmed my assertion and said he wouldnt bother looking at the files.

#48302
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waldstr18 wrote...

who said anything about the real world being important? i said that mass effect was made for the real world and therefore isnt intended to lure out the brightest theorists but sadisfy the common gamer, who is by far not as smart as some guys here nor does he care enough to find all the little clues you are collecting.

oh, and why i am in here. i get a lot of real world ideas from you guys. believe it or not, if everything works out i have to buy all of you a big thank you basket.


That's like saying that scientific inquiry is pointless just because most people won't take the time or aren't smart enough to engage in it.  Quite a few major developments in history have taken place because a small group of intelligent individuals were smart enough to see or do what others didn't or couldn't.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rksmithers wrote...

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

im done fighting you guys, but im still amazed by what you come with next.

but seriously, dont you think the reflections are a lot like jesus on toast?

Check the gamefiles yourself oO


He wont. He's too busy being a jackass. Just ignore him and he'll leave.


come now byne......... love and tolerance....."whispers" love and tolerance.

No no, HARMONY :P


^_^

#48304
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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Indoctrination Theory is obsolete at this point. Next theory, please.


Has it ever not been?

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Indoctrination Theory is obsolete at this point. Next theory, please.


No, it's not.  That is all.

#48306
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Cube maps are easy to make, you just use a lower res picture of whats already there. The tree's have no business up there except to be trippy, like a dream.

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waldstr18 wrote...

i love you guys.


www.youtube.com/watch

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Dwailing wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

who said anything about the real world being important? i said that mass effect was made for the real world and therefore isnt intended to lure out the brightest theorists but sadisfy the common gamer, who is by far not as smart as some guys here nor does he care enough to find all the little clues you are collecting.

oh, and why i am in here. i get a lot of real world ideas from you guys. believe it or not, if everything works out i have to buy all of you a big thank you basket.


That's like saying that scientific inquiry is pointless just because most people won't take the time or aren't smart enough to engage in it.  Quite a few major developments in history have taken place because a small group of intelligent individuals were smart enough to see or do what others didn't or couldn't.


With an attitude like that one wonders how he could possibly fail physics.

Anyways, just ignore him. Thats what I'm doing. I said I'd never directly reply to anything he said ever again, and I havent. Way less stress due to not dealing with his stupidity.

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Rksmithers wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rksmithers wrote...

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

im done fighting you guys, but im still amazed by what you come with next.

but seriously, dont you think the reflections are a lot like jesus on toast?

Check the gamefiles yourself oO


He wont. He's too busy being a jackass. Just ignore him and he'll leave.


come now byne......... love and tolerance....."whispers" love and tolerance.

No no, HARMONY :P


^_^


No, better idea, how about we create a synthesis between all IT believers and doubters?  Then, there will never be any debate ever again.

#48310
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N7L4D wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i love you guys.


www.youtube.com/watch


Come now, thats unnecessarily mean to him even by my standards

#48311
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N7L4D wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i love you guys.


www.youtube.com/watch


That's a little extreme, Commander. 

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#48312
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N7L4D wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i love you guys.


www.youtube.com/watch


Woah, wasn't expecting that.

Modifié par balance5050, 01 mai 2012 - 06:34 .


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balance5050 wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i love you guys.


www.youtube.com/watch


Woah, wasn't expecting that.


I know.  See my previous post.

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SubAstris wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Indoctrination Theory is obsolete at this point. Next theory, please.


Has it ever not been?


"With rock-solid evidence like someone claiming it is obsolete without backing his statement up in anyway, how could it NOT be obsolete?!"


Are you guys even trying anymore?

#48315
N7L4D

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Lol I was kidding, it's like that time you press the renegade interupt and think it will be sarcastic renegade but it's just a-hole renegade hahahahaha

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Dwailing wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

who said anything about the real world being important? i said that mass effect was made for the real world and therefore isnt intended to lure out the brightest theorists but sadisfy the common gamer, who is by far not as smart as some guys here nor does he care enough to find all the little clues you are collecting.

oh, and why i am in here. i get a lot of real world ideas from you guys. believe it or not, if everything works out i have to buy all of you a big thank you basket.


That's like saying that scientific inquiry is pointless just because most people won't take the time or aren't smart enough to engage in it.  Quite a few major developments in history have taken place because a small group of intelligent individuals were smart enough to see or do what others didn't or couldn't.


wait a minute? are you still saying bioware planned the idt? cause if you are not, you are right. also there would be no more reason for me to rub it in your face, since you are saying, you made it all up anyways. also quite nice of you to deliver a logical way out of the ending situation to bioware. well, maybe not that nice. i wouldnt like it, if someone told me, maybe you can say the ending of the story you worked on for years was just a dream. no one would be the wiser! but thats just me.

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*sigh* this discussion gets lost at the hands of it's own supporters by using insults, it's why I do not post much in here, IT is a great story line whether real or not, I very much enjoy the theories bought forward by people, but there's too much bickering intermixed on both sides.

#48318
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Dwailing wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i love you guys.


www.youtube.com/watch


That's a little extreme, Commander. 


+1

#48319
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byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Indoctrination Theory is obsolete at this point. Next theory, please.


Has it ever not been?


"With rock-solid evidence like someone claiming it is obsolete without backing his statement up in anyway, how could it NOT be obsolete?!"


Are you guys even trying anymore?


I know, just ignore them.  Trolls hate being fed.  And yes, it's gotten to the point where I will call them trolls since they stick around and insult IT without any evidence to even SUGGEST that it's wrong.

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byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Indoctrination Theory is obsolete at this point. Next theory, please.


Has it ever not been?


"With rock-solid evidence like someone claiming it is obsolete without backing his statement up in anyway, how could it NOT be obsolete?!"


Are you guys even trying anymore?


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#48321
Rksmithers

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Dwailing wrote...

Rksmithers wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rksmithers wrote...

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

im done fighting you guys, but im still amazed by what you come with next.

but seriously, dont you think the reflections are a lot like jesus on toast?

Check the gamefiles yourself oO


He wont. He's too busy being a jackass. Just ignore him and he'll leave.


come now byne......... love and tolerance....."whispers" love and tolerance.

No no, HARMONY :P


^_^


No, better idea, how about we create a synthesis between all IT believers and doubters?  Then, there will never be any debate ever again.


ILL KILL YOU FOR YOUR HERECY!!!!!!!

#48322
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Tirian Thorn wrote...

byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Indoctrination Theory is obsolete at this point. Next theory, please.


Has it ever not been?


"With rock-solid evidence like someone claiming it is obsolete without backing his statement up in anyway, how could it NOT be obsolete?!"


Are you guys even trying anymore?


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OMG!  That is so appropriate.

Edit: Wait, is that cat doing what I think it's doing. :blink:

Modifié par Dwailing, 01 mai 2012 - 06:38 .


#48323
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byne wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i love you guys.


www.youtube.com/watch


Come now, thats unnecessarily mean to him even by my standards


Hey sometimes you need to be a little renegade lol jk:P

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TROLLING PRESENCE DETECTED. ACTIVATING SECURITY PROTOCOL

Waldstr18
Here is a sample of your posts starting with the very first one. I've not even included all the posts where you "debunk" IDT then have nothing to say or dodge the queston when someone responds....the page each post can be found on is included


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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...

indoctrination theory is easily disproofed. just watch how many choices you get here:



if it was indoctrination and we had to choose the red option to snap out of it, why is it the only possible option here? the reapers noticed that shepard hadnt enough war assets so they werent interested in successfully mind controlling him? they just made a ... trial run (?) for the next hero with a bigger army?

and for those saying the ending went over everyones heads: ever heard of the emperors new cloth?

some of these explanations ... really? the kid smiled? shepard bled from the same spot anderson was shot? or my personal favorite: "do you hear that humm or is it just me?"
had to be indoctrination... what else could it have been? vega hears a humming sound. case and point.[/quote]
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
anyways i only posted here to be able to tell you afterwards: "i called it" and "in your face!"[/quote]
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
we are talking about a game here, right? otherwise i take back everything i said and i will spend the rest of my life preparing for the next reaper invasion.[/quote]
876
[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
now if your indoctrination theory is made true, well, all that is pointless. and thats why im arguing here. and of course the "in your face" reason.[/quote]
876
[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
now all thats left for me is waiting for my "in your face!" moment.[/quote]
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
since your theory can explain everything in the game, do you have an explanation why the asari were not warned by their prothean beacon?
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
i think you are the ones who are indoctrinated.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
question is; what are you going to do if they charge for the ending dlc, and if it shows you were right all along?

well, if you are happily paying for it, it supports my theory that you are the ones being indoctrinated - by your own self, by the way, since for me it still makes no sense that bioware planned to use indoctrination the way you say it did. they might use it as an easy way out, but even that i find unlikely.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
i have the best explanation for i.t.: i managed to clip myself out of the engineering deck on the normandy once, ran around the ship in space and then clipped myself back in were jack used to sleep. im not making stuff up, i really did that. no hacking or what so ever. but this is clearly not possible. so it has to be indoctrination, right? bioware doesnt make mistakes, they planned that so, that i knew all of this wasnt real, cause im astral projecting.
indoctrination theory is therefore proven, cause there is no other explanation.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
hopefully someone captures the moment when the devs tell you, they dont have an indoctrination fairy in their team, who puts all the little signs in the game you interpreted as proof.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
well, after it has been made public that they planned this, i will gladly shoot myself, just like indoctrinated people are supposed to. but i hope if they tell you there was no indoctrination plan in the game, you have a long and meaningful life making up lots more of crazy theories.[/quote]
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
but i have noticed most of you are masters of straw grasping, so you will answer that with "there was not enough time for the indoctrination" or "the reapers werent interested any more in indoctrination". oh, and to think even outside of the game box: you are saying they gave us an unfinished game.

these points make it impossible for me to follow your cult. yet, i respect the "it could be an easy way out" guys, cause thats actually true. all the holes would be patched by clothing your eyes, shaking your head and screaming "ITS NOT TRUE!". but to insist on bioware planned it that way? i dont think so.[/quote]
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
you all sound very desperate to me, as well also im waiting for the "we have been wrong! mass suicide!!!!" post.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
i actually lost track how i got here. i think it went something like: i dont believe it and am looking forward to the developers telling you there was no indoctrination.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
just for you noobi, im gonna find religion and pray to my then new found god every day at least for an hour that the coming dlc disproves the idt.
and when i say religion, i mean one of the previsouly made up ones, not the one you are clearly following.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
i just hope for a clear answer. something like:
fan: was it indoctrination and was it planned through the whole game?
bioware: no, and no.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
anyways, i hope ive earned the right to be self congratulating, once its confirmed that you are deluded. im really looking forward to my "in your face" moment.
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1021
[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
as for the childish comment. i accept that.
by the way, i also looked up the troll thingy. and, really sounds like fun. im hoping i get accept into troll college soon, even though i might be a bit old for that. but one can hope.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
and dont be so nice! you are ruining my in your face moment. be more angy! so i can feel good about myself when im finally able to tell you: you are all full of it!
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
as for the troll comment. i looked it up, and i accept. i really like to be a troll. is there a initiation ceremony, whichs makes me an offical troll, or do i have to get the "professional troll" shirt from zero punctuation?
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
had to repost, so i get noticed. i want attention!!!
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
any changes?
did you finally recognize the foolishness of your ways or are you still following the indoctrination cult?
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
im putting my trust in the writers at bioware, so they wont say that they have planned your theory all along, which then finally gives me the right to tell you:

you are full of it.

no offense though. it was very nice of you guys to think the whole game through 34 times, but like i said, the only one choice scenario rules out your theory (well, at least for me it does).
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
this is exactly the reason why its poitless to discuss any further. those planet descriptions also rule out your theory, but then you make up stuff like that. you guys might not know common sense but your imagination is incredible.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
to the rest: people tell me im actually a pretty nice guy, but if you call me a troll im gonna show you what trolling is really all about (after ive done more research of course). in other words. challenge accepted.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
as i have mentioned yesterday i think. ive looked up those trolls. they seem like a fun bunch. why does no one seem to like them?
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
i meant research about trolling of course - im quite new at it, you know?
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
also im not angry with you for calling me a troll. im going to apply at the troll school soon, since i find those trolls are a fun bunch.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
with that being said. i apologize in advance for making fun of your theory, even though im actually going to make fun of the people who followed it religiously. if bioware says you are wrong that is. otherwise. well, i still cant believe it, but i would have to accpet it and take the ridicule from the cultist of course.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
you really think more than a few people here have any coding or higher math skills?
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
i just dont want to go off all half cocked when idt is finally proven wrong. it could happen any minute that you guys find the proof you are not looking for, and then i would look more like an ass as usual for rubbing it in your faces, when you have already came to the right conclusion.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
yes yes. we already talked about that. well, at least with some of you i did discuss that. i just dont like to be cursed at just because i dont share your views. in other words: if you wanna be childish.. lets be childish.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
oh, is the indoctrination theory getting extended??
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
doubts? hardy. you just wait for it, i will tell you "in your face" soon enough.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
about the video; i wouldnt do that - try and proof to you you were wrong. where is the fun in that? just wait for the developers to say you were, and then come into your living room and make a little crazy dance and sing a victory song.

edit: with that being said. addresses anyone?
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
why does everyone love garrus so much? i didnt like him at all in the first 2 games.
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Not a troll, just...wow
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
i wouldnt mind being tricked by the game. i just dont like being tricked by you.
talking about tricks. april fools day is over. we can close this thread now.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
oh, and talking about trolls and hardons. everytime i am "trolling" as you say, you are the one answering. so i guess you are a troll hunter, right? fight to death? you and me? how about it?
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
its because i dont think your theory makes sense. thats why i dont want to be tricked by you, the non sense makers.

edit: just like ive never called anyone of you stupid. ok, that one time, but that was not because of the theory, but because of his "burn" (his word).

hmm.. maybe i should start. if i get called a troll for everytime i try to pull you back from your "the non believers are stupid" rant, i might as well act like one. and now ive done my research:

you are all gay!

not that there is something wrong with that, it was just the first example i found.
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[quote]waldstr18 wrote...
im going to start my carrear as profeesional troll, since i obviously seem to have a knack for it.
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So synopsis of what I found so far. Only up to page 1155.

I want to get back to IDT so further evidence collection will be ceased for now.

#48325
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Yeah, the fans put tree reflections into the endings<_<.

Get real boy! Indoctrination is what bioware intended all along!

Modifié par balance5050, 01 mai 2012 - 06:39 .