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Rksmithers wrote...
ladies and gentlmen... i have a proposition.....
i say every single on of us take approximately 2 hours off from posting on this page.... let it cool down abit.... and come back fresh.... lets call it a recess...... then we can come back and get back to discussing in a non hostile environment.
SubAstris wrote...
Of course, when BW confirm IT, they are being truthful, but when BW confirm that it is not true, they must be wrong!
byne wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
I would actually like SubAstris' opinion of the trees on the Crucible. What's your explanation for why they're there?
(image in case it's been lost http://wenchy.net/stupidity/trees.png)
He said they arent actually there and we're seeing things.
I'd like to see the one from Weekes please?SubAstris wrote...
And yet, despite "mountains" of evidence, it has been disproved in one swoop by both Weekes and Merizan. RIP IT
waldstr18 wrote...
Rksmithers wrote...
ladies and gentlmen... i have a proposition.....
i say every single on of us take approximately 2 hours off from posting on this page.... let it cool down abit.... and come back fresh.... lets call it a recess...... then we can come back and get back to discussing in a non hostile environment.
i have to go anyways. have to get up early to follow tirian thorns advice.
balance5050 wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
Why not admit they have already disproved it; https://twitter.com/...117365311213569
You idiot. Technically, IT can still be true even if Shep is on the citadel.
But I specifically remembering you posting a picture that you thought proved that Shepard couldn't have possibly been on the Citadel...seems you were wrong
Just not sure... my gut still tells me he's on Earth.
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And yet, despite "mountains" of evidence, it has been disproved in one swoop by both Weekes and Merizan. RIP IT
Weekes only said that citizens could survive due to Kinetic Barriers, nothing about Shep. He also specified that EDI can survive the destroy ending.
I wouldn't quote Merizen if you want to be taken seriously amongst us big boys.
N7L4D wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
Of course, when BW confirm IT, they are being truthful, but when BW confirm that it is not true, they must be wrong!
When was it confirmed false
SubAstris wrote...
byne wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
I would actually like SubAstris' opinion of the trees on the Crucible. What's your explanation for why they're there?
(image in case it's been lost http://wenchy.net/stupidity/trees.png)
He said they arent actually there and we're seeing things.
I was specifically referring to the visuals on the floor rather than the trees themselves. Admittedly, off the top of my head I can't think of another reason why they are there. That doesn't mean there isn't one though. I still think it odd that if that is evidence for IT why they would trees like that instead of say, a wallpaper of Reapers
SubAstris wrote...
Of course, when BW confirm IT, they are being truthful, but when BW confirm that it is not true, they must be wrong!
Modifié par llbountyhunter, 01 mai 2012 - 07:04 .
SubAstris wrote...
Of course, when BW confirm IT, they are being truthful, but when BW confirm that it is not true, they must be wrong!
SubAstris wrote...
He talks about "ALL PLOT-IMPORTANT CHARACTERS". Shepard it is safe to say is one such character!
Ha big boys! The same ones who quote her as gospel when her comments seem to support IT but deny her at all cost when she doesn't!
Modifié par balance5050, 01 mai 2012 - 07:07 .
balance5050 wrote...
waldstr18 wrote...
Rksmithers wrote...
ladies and gentlmen... i have a proposition.....
i say every single on of us take approximately 2 hours off from posting on this page.... let it cool down abit.... and come back fresh.... lets call it a recess...... then we can come back and get back to discussing in a non hostile environment.
i have to go anyways. have to get up early to follow tirian thorns advice.
It's sad when you have to hang out with people who find you annoying because youre even harder to like IRL, huh?
SubAstris wrote...
byne wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
I would actually like SubAstris' opinion of the trees on the Crucible. What's your explanation for why they're there?
(image in case it's been lost http://wenchy.net/stupidity/trees.png)
He said they arent actually there and we're seeing things.
I was specifically referring to the visuals on the floor rather than the trees themselves. Admittedly, off the top of my head I can't think of another reason why they are there. That doesn't mean there isn't one though. I still think it odd that if that is evidence for IT why they would trees like that instead of say, a wallpaper of Reapers
waldstr18 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
waldstr18 wrote...
Rksmithers wrote...
ladies and gentlmen... i have a proposition.....
i say every single on of us take approximately 2 hours off from posting on this page.... let it cool down abit.... and come back fresh.... lets call it a recess...... then we can come back and get back to discussing in a non hostile environment.
i have to go anyways. have to get up early to follow tirian thorns advice.
It's sad when you have to hang out with people who find you annoying because youre even harder to like IRL, huh?
irl means real life, right?
everyone loves me! except for q. you dont know him, but i have to mention him for it to be a truthful statement. but! he actually did what some of you are trying to do for weeks now. he is actually ignoring me. which is quite weird sometimes.
IronSabbath88 wrote...
I already took a long break from this thread. Personally, I am at peace with whatever BioWare decides to do, because I am a fan of their trilogy. Should they choose to do something different than IT, then fine, while I may not agree with it, I'll still take it as it wraps up my favourite game trilogy of all time.
Point is, I love Mass Effect, and will continue to love Mass Effect. The characters, the races, the overall feel of the series, and nobody will take that away from me, regardless of how much someone else may think BioWare "betrayed" them.
Dracorequiem wrote...
That's just a video of the synthesis ending. My question to you guys is: am I the only one that thinks maybe synthesis has a hint of hope at not being indoctrinated?
The main "hard" evidence I am using for this is the awning as you approach the beam. It's mostly blue from control, true, but there's a little bit of the red from destroy on the side. This indicates, to me, that though you may be mostly indoctrinated, there's still a hint of rebellion within you. Also during the sequence in which Shep disintegrates, there are all 3 colors: green mostly, but red and blue at the edges of energy.
My main "soft" evidence: what's the purpose of putting two choices that indoctrinate you totally? Control, yes, you're indoc all the way. Synthesis, maybe the Reapers are trying to work around your resistance rather than destroy it absolutely. You can still pull the last stand of willpower like Benezia or Saren or TIM, and possibly destroy the Reapers.
balance5050 wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
He talks about "ALL PLOT-IMPORTANT CHARACTERS". Shepard it is safe to say is one such character!
Ha big boys! The same ones who quote her as gospel when her comments seem to support IT but deny her at all cost when she doesn't!
Yeah, that's from that one interview that was acually just a fan.
Also they aren't being "prescriptive of the ending so anything weekes says isn't post ending materrial.
byne wrote...
N7L4D wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
Of course, when BW confirm IT, they are being truthful, but when BW confirm that it is not true, they must be wrong!
When was it confirmed false
It wasnt, he's just trying to provoke a fight.
Just ignore him.
SS2Dante wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
byne wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
I would actually like SubAstris' opinion of the trees on the Crucible. What's your explanation for why they're there?
(image in case it's been lost http://wenchy.net/stupidity/trees.png)
He said they arent actually there and we're seeing things.
I was specifically referring to the visuals on the floor rather than the trees themselves. Admittedly, off the top of my head I can't think of another reason why they are there. That doesn't mean there isn't one though. I still think it odd that if that is evidence for IT why they would trees like that instead of say, a wallpaper of Reapers
Well, it's pretty clear to me that you can indeed see them on the floor (as you'd have to if they're on the cubemap). But ok. And as for trees...well, trees are the only objects in the dreams. Surely that's obvious?
SubAstris wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
He talks about "ALL PLOT-IMPORTANT CHARACTERS". Shepard it is safe to say is one such character!
Ha big boys! The same ones who quote her as gospel when her comments seem to support IT but deny her at all cost when she doesn't!
Yeah, that's from that one interview that was acually just a fan.
Also they aren't being "prescriptive of the ending so anything weekes says isn't post ending materrial.
When you can't win an argument on the evidence itself, question the quality of the source of the evidence you just used...
Admittedly it is paraphrased, but Weekes has also come out to clarify a bit of what he said. I find it strange that the same people who use evidence from that interview to support IT are less reluctant to use it when it doesn't.
Still irrelevant, Shep is on the Citadel, according to BW
SubAstris wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
byne wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
I would actually like SubAstris' opinion of the trees on the Crucible. What's your explanation for why they're there?
(image in case it's been lost http://wenchy.net/stupidity/trees.png)
He said they arent actually there and we're seeing things.
I was specifically referring to the visuals on the floor rather than the trees themselves. Admittedly, off the top of my head I can't think of another reason why they are there. That doesn't mean there isn't one though. I still think it odd that if that is evidence for IT why they would trees like that instead of say, a wallpaper of Reapers
Well, it's pretty clear to me that you can indeed see them on the floor (as you'd have to if they're on the cubemap). But ok. And as for trees...well, trees are the only objects in the dreams. Surely that's obvious?
Yes these trees are full of leaves, vibrant, not dead like the ones in the dream and around the beam
balance5050 wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
byne wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
I would actually like SubAstris' opinion of the trees on the Crucible. What's your explanation for why they're there?
(image in case it's been lost http://wenchy.net/stupidity/trees.png)
He said they arent actually there and we're seeing things.
I was specifically referring to the visuals on the floor rather than the trees themselves. Admittedly, off the top of my head I can't think of another reason why they are there. That doesn't mean there isn't one though. I still think it odd that if that is evidence for IT why they would trees like that instead of say, a wallpaper of Reapers
Well, it's pretty clear to me that you can indeed see them on the floor (as you'd have to if they're on the cubemap). But ok. And as for trees...well, trees are the only objects in the dreams. Surely that's obvious?
Yes these trees are full of leaves, vibrant, not dead like the ones in the dream and around the beam
BUT WHY DID BIOWARE PUT THEM THERE?? Dead or alive trees are trees.
balance5050 wrote...
Dracorequiem wrote...
That's just a video of the synthesis ending. My question to you guys is: am I the only one that thinks maybe synthesis has a hint of hope at not being indoctrinated?
The main "hard" evidence I am using for this is the awning as you approach the beam. It's mostly blue from control, true, but there's a little bit of the red from destroy on the side. This indicates, to me, that though you may be mostly indoctrinated, there's still a hint of rebellion within you. Also during the sequence in which Shep disintegrates, there are all 3 colors: green mostly, but red and blue at the edges of energy.
My main "soft" evidence: what's the purpose of putting two choices that indoctrinate you totally? Control, yes, you're indoc all the way. Synthesis, maybe the Reapers are trying to work around your resistance rather than destroy it absolutely. You can still pull the last stand of willpower like Benezia or Saren or TIM, and possibly destroy the Reapers.
There are 4 destroy endings (inlcuding "Shep_Alive"), 2 control endings, and 1 synthesis endng.
That tells me that control would be the one where you might resist indoc at pop yourself or something, but that's just speculation.
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