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[Sprite Knight]

Just thought to add that those colors crop up almost everywhere. On all of the monitors basically. Some only show based on what angle you view them from.

You know those helpful Cronos station vids? Again, the blue isn't showing up well on my screens, but it is most definitely there.




And probably my favorite for how obvious it is.

[Golferguy758]

Since I haven't seen the standard rebuttal for all those pictures yet I'll post it.

Bioware was lazy.

Boom.

[SS2Dante]

byne wrote...

The Destroyer on Rannoch is weird.

Shepard: You're just a machine! This time the organics are taking control!
Destroyer: A philosophy reminiscent of the quarians. Observe the result of their efforts to maintain control.

Why would a Reaper be against both control AND organics being victorious?

I thought that the entire idea behind Reapers was to maintain control of the galaxy so they could prevent synthetics from destroying organics.

I think what he's saying is that organics are too incompetant to take control.

Modifié par SS2Dante, 01 mai 2012 - 09:18 .

[SS2Dante]

Sprite Knight wrote...

Just thought to add that those colors crop up almost everywhere. On all of the monitors basically. Some only show based on what angle you view them from.

You know those helpful Cronos station vids? Again, the blue isn't showing up well on my screens, but it is most definitely there.




And probably my favorite for how obvious it is.

Yeah I gotta agree, there's a fine line between patterns and just freaking out any time RBG appears in the game

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

The Destroyer on Rannoch is weird.

Shepard: You're just a machine! This time the organics are taking control!
Destroyer: A philosophy reminiscent of the quarians. Observe the result of their efforts to maintain control.

Why would a Reaper be against both control AND organics being victorious?

I thought that the entire idea behind Reapers was to maintain control of the galaxy so they could prevent synthetics from destroying organics.

It is just saying that they can't keep control over machines thus leading to the destruction of organics thus proving them right.

[SS2Dante]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Example of a tree of the destroy ramp:

You have some phenomenal eyes.

[byne]

Sprite Knight wrote...

Just thought to add that those colors crop up almost everywhere. On all of the monitors basically. Some only show based on what angle you view them from.

You know those helpful Cronos station vids? Again, the blue isn't showing up well on my screens, but it is most definitely there.




And probably my favorite for how obvious it is.

One I notice every time, but that I always figured was just my game acting weird, is TIM's keyboard when you sit in his chair.

[MegumiAzusa]

SS2Dante wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Example of a tree of the destroy ramp:

You have some phenomenal eyes.

-14 and -13 dioptre disagree with your assessment.
But it helps seeing it in motion in game and zooming on the screenshot ^^

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 01 mai 2012 - 09:24 .

[spotlessvoid]

Speculation is all good, but those rgb pics are really stretching it imo.

[Sprite Knight]

byne wrote...

One I notice every time, but that I always figured was just my game acting weird, is TIM's keyboard when you sit in his chair.

I assumed it was a lens flare at first. But then I realized that its the way that Bioware layered the keyboard texture. The camera is placed in such a manner to cut it off.

[balance5050]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Speculation is all good, but those rgb pics are really stretching it imo.

Agreed

[Sprite Knight]

balance5050 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Speculation is all good, but those rgb pics are really stretching it imo.

Agreed

Which ones? Mine?

Maybe.

But if you believe that, than perhaps you'd like to explain why Bioware bothered with it at all. Especially since they're pretty subliminal.

Modifié par Sprite Knight, 01 mai 2012 - 09:30 .

[byne]

balance5050 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Speculation is all good, but those rgb pics are really stretching it imo.

Agreed

I agree too, but I find it fun to find RGB in as many places as possible.


This one from the Resurgence trailer is by far my favorite:



Its like they arent even trying to hide it.

[MegumiAzusa]

Sprite Knight wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Speculation is all good, but those rgb pics are really stretching it imo.

Agreed

Which ones? Mine?

Maybe.

But if you believe that, than perhaps you'd like to explain why Bioware bothered with it at all. Especially since they're pretty subliminal.

So using technology as interface devices is "Harmony of Man and Machine"? ^^

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Speculation is all good, but those rgb pics are really stretching it imo.

Agreed

I agree too, but I find it fun to find RGB in as many places as possible.


This one from the Resurgence trailer is by far my favorite:



Its like they arent even trying to hide it.

I believe in that image they trolled on purpose, like they did with Happycloud.

[MaximizedAction]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Sprite Knight wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Speculation is all good, but those rgb pics are really stretching it imo.

Agreed

Which ones? Mine?

Maybe.

But if you believe that, than perhaps you'd like to explain why Bioware bothered with it at all. Especially since they're pretty subliminal.

So using technology as interface devices is "Harmony of Man and Machine"? ^^

Using an Apple computer sure us,

But rgb are just the basic colors for creating other colors. I'd say, it's the ending choices that stand out. I personally didn't have a problem with the rgb on computer screens, and I'm firmly pro IT!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 01 mai 2012 - 09:37 .

[Sammuthegreat]

byne wrote...

Sprite Knight wrote...

Just thought to add that those colors crop up almost everywhere. On all of the monitors basically. Some only show based on what angle you view them from.

You know those helpful Cronos station vids? Again, the blue isn't showing up well on my screens, but it is most definitely there.




And probably my favorite for how obvious it is.

One I notice every time, but that I always figured was just my game acting weird, is TIM's keyboard when you sit in his chair.

Surprised to see so many people rejecting this as grasping at Emergency Induction Ports. The colours are even arranged in the same order as in the end choice scene - Blue on the left, Green in the middle and Red on the right.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Speaking of Bioware and Subliminal and speculation and stretching late last night I played through the good red ending to get some more screenshots to review. Earlier that night I talked about Big Ben a little bit, so took a shot of the time displayed before the wave hit. It's either 9:56 or 9:57, googled it and came back with some bible quotes:

Luke 9:56 "for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them." And they went on to another village."
Luke 9:57 As they were walking along the road, a man said to him, “I will follow you wherever you go.”

Other than that the only thing I could think to Try and link it to was the periodic table since Bioware has used that before during the first ME3 trailer release

(Copy paste from google, beware of wall of text)
9: Flourine, is the chemical element with atomic number 9, represented by the symbol F. It is the lightest element of the halogen column of the periodic table and has a single stable isotope, fluorine-19. At standard pressure and temperature, fluorine is a pale yellow gas composed of diatomic molecules, F2. In stars, fluorine is rare compared to other light elements. In Earth's crust, fluorine is more common, being the 13th most abundant element.

Fluorine's most important mineral, fluorite, was first formally described in 1530, in the context of smelting. The mineral's name derives from the Latin verb fluo, which means "flow," because fluorite was added to metal ores to lower their melting points. Suggested to be a chemical element in 1811, "fluorine" was named after the source mineral. Several chemists, the "fluorine martyrs," died in accidents while trying to isolate the element. In 1886, French chemist Henri Moissan succeeded. His method of electrolysis remains the industrial production method. The main use of elemental fluorine, uranium enrichment, was developed during the Manhattan Project.

Fluorine is the most electronegative element and forms stable compounds, fluorides, with all elements except helium and neon. Because of the difficulty in making elemental fluorine, the vast majority of commercial fluorine is never reduced to the element. Hydrofluoric acid is the key intermediate for the $13 billion fluorochemical industry. Although only a weak acid, HF eats through glass and is a worse burn danger than conventional strong acids. The fluorides of lighter metal elements are ionic compounds (salts); those of heavier metal elements are volatile molecular compounds. The largest uses of inorganic fluorides are steel making and aluminium refining.

Organic fluorine compounds tend to have high chemical and thermal stability and repel water. The largest use is in refrigerant gases ("Freon"). Although traditional chlorofluorocarbons—which cause ozone depletion—are widely banned, the replacements, hydrochlorofluorocarbons and hydrofluorocarbons, still contain fluorine. Polytetrafluoroethylene ("Teflon") is the most important fluoropolymer and is used in electrical insulation, chemical-resistant parts, stadium roofs, and cookware. Fluoride is not an essential mineral for mammals, but does prevent tooth decay. A growing fraction of drugs contain fluorine. Lipitor and Prozac are notable examples.

56: Barium, a chemical element with the symbol Ba and atomic number 56. It is the fifth element in Group 2, a soft silvery metallic alkaline earth metal. Barium is never found in nature in its pure form due to its reactivity with air. Its oxide is historically known as baryta but it reacts with water and carbon dioxide and is not found as a mineral. The most common naturally occurring minerals are the very insoluble barium sulfate, BaSO4 (barite), and barium carbonate, BaCO3 (witherite). Barium's name originates from Greek barys (βαρύς), meaning "heavy", describing the high density of some common barium-containing ores.

Barium has few industrial applications, but the metal has been historically used to scavenge air in vacuum tubes. Barium compounds impart a green color to flames and have been used in fireworks. Barium sulfate is used for its density, insolubility, and X-ray opacity. It is used as an insoluble heavy additive to oil well drilling mud, and in purer form, as an X-ray radiocontrast agent for imaging the human gastrointestinal tract. Barium is also used as an additive in ductile iron in order to reduce the size of carbon nodules within the micro structure of the metal. Soluble barium compounds are poisonous due to release of the soluble barium ion, and have been used as rodenticides. New uses for barium continue to be sought. It is a component of some "high temperature" YBCO superconductors, and electroceramics.

So anyway, the time on Big Ben's clock tower probably means nothing. Just thought I'd get looking into out of the way, OR maybe I don't know enough to link it to anything so feel free to give it a shot.

EDIT! Forgot 57

57: Lanthanum, is a chemical element with the symbol La and atomic number
57. Lanthanum is a silvery white metallic element that belongs to group
3 of the periodic table and is the first element of the lanthanide series. It is found in some rare-earth minerals, usually in combination with cerium and other rare earth elements. Lanthanum is a malleable, ductile, and soft metal that oxidizes rapidly when exposed to air. It is produced from the minerals mo****te and bastnäsite
using a complex multistage extraction process. Lanthanum compounds have
numerous applications as catalysts, additives in glass, carbon lighting
for studio lighting and projection, ignition elements in lighters and torches, electron cathodes, scintillators, and others. Lanthanum carbonate (La2(CO3)3) was approved as a medication against renal failure.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 01 mai 2012 - 09:46 .

[Cancer Puppet]

Wow, almost 2000 pages in under two months. Shame that bioware, for whatever reason, isn't going with the indoc theory.

[Sprite Knight]

MaximizedAction wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Sprite Knight wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Speculation is all good, but those rgb pics are really stretching it imo.

Agreed

Which ones? Mine?

Maybe.

But if you believe that, than perhaps you'd like to explain why Bioware bothered with it at all. Especially since they're pretty subliminal.

So using technology as interface devices is "Harmony of Man and Machine"? ^^

Using an Apple computer sure us,

But rgb are just the basic colors for creating other colors. I'd say, it's the ending choices that stand out. I personally didn't have a problem with the rgb on computer screens, and I'm firmly pro IT!

That's sorta the point though. The way the colors on the displays and monitors are strewn through out the game doesn't seem like it was done "for the hell of it". And in this case, the colors are not being used to make new colors. In the past games most of the displays are monochromatic. Suddenly, they're not, and they all happen to tie in visually to the end choice.

Again, they probably don't mean anything. But it did jump out at me.

[SS2Dante]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

byne wrote...

Sprite Knight wrote...

Just thought to add that those colors crop up almost everywhere. On all of the monitors basically. Some only show based on what angle you view them from.

You know those helpful Cronos station vids? Again, the blue isn't showing up well on my screens, but it is most definitely there.




And probably my favorite for how obvious it is.

One I notice every time, but that I always figured was just my game acting weird, is TIM's keyboard when you sit in his chair.

Surprised to see so many people rejecting this as grasping at Emergency Induction Ports. The colours are even arranged in the same order as in the end choice scene - Blue on the left, Green in the middle and Red on the right.

As other people have said, RBG is how most screens make colours, so seeing it around in places just isn't weird or out of place enough for me. 

I'll stick with the reflections as being my knock down argument

[MegumiAzusa]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

Surprised to see so many people rejecting this as grasping at Emergency Induction Ports. The colours are even arranged in the same order as in the end choice scene - Blue on the left, Green in the middle and Red on the right.

That is how the color spectrum works:
http://upload.wikime...le_spectrum.svg

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 01 mai 2012 - 09:46 .

[SubAstris]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Speaking of Bioware and Subliminal and speculation and stretching late last night I played through the good red ending to get some more screenshots to review. Earlier that night I talked about Big Ben a little bit, so took a shot of the time displayed before the wave hit. It's either 9:56 or 9:57, googled it and came back with some bible quotes:

Luke 9:56 "for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them." And they went on to another village."
Luke 9:57 As they were walking along the road, a man said to him, “I will follow you wherever you go.”

Other than that the only thing I could think to Try and link it to was the periodic table since Bioware has used that before during the first ME3 trailer release

(Copy paste from google, beware of wall of text)
9: Flourine, is the chemical element with atomic number 9, represented by the symbol F. It is the lightest element of the halogen column of the periodic table and has a single stable isotope, fluorine-19. At standard pressure and temperature, fluorine is a pale yellow gas composed of diatomic molecules, F2. In stars, fluorine is rare compared to other light elements. In Earth's crust, fluorine is more common, being the 13th most abundant element.

Fluorine's most important mineral, fluorite, was first formally described in 1530, in the context of smelting. The mineral's name derives from the Latin verb fluo, which means "flow," because fluorite was added to metal ores to lower their melting points. Suggested to be a chemical element in 1811, "fluorine" was named after the source mineral. Several chemists, the "fluorine martyrs," died in accidents while trying to isolate the element. In 1886, French chemist Henri Moissan succeeded. His method of electrolysis remains the industrial production method. The main use of elemental fluorine, uranium enrichment, was developed during the Manhattan Project.

Fluorine is the most electronegative element and forms stable compounds, fluorides, with all elements except helium and neon. Because of the difficulty in making elemental fluorine, the vast majority of commercial fluorine is never reduced to the element. Hydrofluoric acid is the key intermediate for the $13 billion fluorochemical industry. Although only a weak acid, HF eats through glass and is a worse burn danger than conventional strong acids. The fluorides of lighter metal elements are ionic compounds (salts); those of heavier metal elements are volatile molecular compounds. The largest uses of inorganic fluorides are steel making and aluminium refining.

Organic fluorine compounds tend to have high chemical and thermal stability and repel water. The largest use is in refrigerant gases ("Freon"). Although traditional chlorofluorocarbons—which cause ozone depletion—are widely banned, the replacements, hydrochlorofluorocarbons and hydrofluorocarbons, still contain fluorine. Polytetrafluoroethylene ("Teflon") is the most important fluoropolymer and is used in electrical insulation, chemical-resistant parts, stadium roofs, and cookware. Fluoride is not an essential mineral for mammals, but does prevent tooth decay. A growing fraction of drugs contain fluorine. Lipitor and Prozac are notable examples.

56: Barium, a chemical element with the symbol Ba and atomic number 56. It is the fifth element in Group 2, a soft silvery metallic alkaline earth metal. Barium is never found in nature in its pure form due to its reactivity with air. Its oxide is historically known as baryta but it reacts with water and carbon dioxide and is not found as a mineral. The most common naturally occurring minerals are the very insoluble barium sulfate, BaSO4 (barite), and barium carbonate, BaCO3 (witherite). Barium's name originates from Greek barys (βαρύς), meaning "heavy", describing the high density of some common barium-containing ores.

Barium has few industrial applications, but the metal has been historically used to scavenge air in vacuum tubes. Barium compounds impart a green color to flames and have been used in fireworks. Barium sulfate is used for its density, insolubility, and X-ray opacity. It is used as an insoluble heavy additive to oil well drilling mud, and in purer form, as an X-ray radiocontrast agent for imaging the human gastrointestinal tract. Barium is also used as an additive in ductile iron in order to reduce the size of carbon nodules within the micro structure of the metal. Soluble barium compounds are poisonous due to release of the soluble barium ion, and have been used as rodenticides. New uses for barium continue to be sought. It is a component of some "high temperature" YBCO superconductors, and electroceramics.

So anyway, the time on Big Ben's clock tower probably means nothing. Just thought I'd get looking into out of the way, OR maybe I don't know enough to link it to anything so feel free to give it a shot.

Nice try

[Sammuthegreat]

SS2Dante wrote...

Sammuthegreat wrote...
Surprised to see so many people rejecting this as grasping at Emergency Induction Ports. The colours are even arranged in the same order as in the end choice scene - Blue on the left, Green in the middle and Red on the right.

As other people have said, RBG is how most screens make colours, so seeing it around in places just isn't weird or out of place enough for me. 

I'll stick with the reflections as being my knock down argument

Fair enough... I missed the tree-reflection argument, I don't understand how it can be interpreted as evidence in favour of IT. Could someone please explain it to me?

As for the colours, I understand that RGB are standard colour components, but that's just it - RGB. Not BGR. It seems especially coincidental given that the end is presented in the exact same way, with those exact same base colours in the exact same order.

I don't think it makes or breaks IT, but I think it's evidence nonetheless.

[SS2Dante]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Sammuthegreat wrote...
Surprised to see so many people rejecting this as grasping at Emergency Induction Ports. The colours are even arranged in the same order as in the end choice scene - Blue on the left, Green in the middle and Red on the right.

As other people have said, RBG is how most screens make colours, so seeing it around in places just isn't weird or out of place enough for me. 

I'll stick with the reflections as being my knock down argument

Fair enough... I missed the tree-reflection argument, I don't understand how it can be interpreted as evidence in favour of IT. Could someone please explain it to me?

As for the colours, I understand that RGB are standard colour components, but that's just it - RGB. Not BGR. It seems especially coincidental given that the end is presented in the exact same way, with those exact same base colours in the exact same order.

I don't think it makes or breaks IT, but I think it's evidence nonetheless.

The tree reflection thing is that the whole crucible has trees around the edges, only visible in the reflections of things. I wonder where else in the game you find youself surrounded by trees..

http://wenchy.net/stupidity/trees.png