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#48751
Rifneno

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You want to see Zaeed run in fear? Give him a mirror.

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marcelo_sdk

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To hell with Elcor, I want to see Yahg soldiers!

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Lokanaiya

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Elcor and Yahg don't sound likely as playable characters.... What about husks? :P

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llbountyhunter

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What about a volus?

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Rifneno wrote...

You want to see Zaeed run in fear? Give him a mirror.


He'd either run in fear or pick a fight with himself haha

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llbountyhunter wrote...

What about a volus?


Volus husk= a broodmother

On a serious note, in terms of a volus playable class...it's doubtful.  I'm sure that volus can fight but their lacking of combat aptitude is mentioned many times throughout the ME series

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"Quick, get to cover!"
"Alarmed, I cannot make it in time."
"But it's only 4 foot away and you have full shields."
"Frantically, I am moving as fast as I can."
"BANSHEE!"
"Mournfully, tell my wife I loved her."

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www.youtube.com/watch

^^ Up for critical evaluation. ^^

I don't know if it's been carefully analyzed before, but it certainly needs to be. This is the "Timed Out" ending for ME2: Arrival. Seeing as the basis of much of our Indoc. Theory could revolve around Object Rho, this may be more than a little important.

#1. Shepard is implanted with visions from Rho, indicating indoctrination.

#2. The actual vision itself seem to have been largely overlooked in favor of the fact that Rho initially impacted Shepard, period.

Seeing as the "vision" was considered prophetic in the lore, it's worth seeing what has and has not happened in ME3. Note the debris outside of a bright light, (possibly the Citadel Beam) with what appears to be Shepard's helmet on a stake, the original fall of Earth, (sunset), the Reapers approaching a Mass Relay, (Alpha link or not?), and what appears to be a large chunk of your crew, (plus TIM), on the Citadel with Harbinger. Interestingly, the Reaper beams appear to be firing at fellow Reapers. There is also an unusual spot on the Citadel shown, with some sort of device at the 10:30 position of the screen.

Pick it appart people! Dreams and visions are important in the ME universe. If the "artistic vision" truly has never changed, we may be looking at early renditions of the Extended Cut.

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Rifneno wrote...

"Quick, get to cover!"
"Alarmed, I cannot make it in time."
"But it's only 4 foot away and you have full shields."
"Frantically, I am moving as fast as I can."
"BANSHEE!"
"Mournfully, tell my wife I loved her."


"With annoyance, I have lost my shields"

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Arian Dynas

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

That just makes it better.  I love the ManShep Raep Face.  Also, based on what I've heard from FemShep, I prefer ManShep.  However, I agree with Kyzee that each voice actor/actress has his/her own way of playing Shep.  Like I said before, for me, ManShep will always be Shep.  For you, FemShep will always be Shep.  No one Shep is better than any other Shep.  Male or female, Paragon or Renegade, we all love the same game and the same character.  

I would seriously consider playing badass asian broshep, too bad I can't.


I agree with Dwailing completely.

And to be honest, even I, Meer **** that I am, would love to see asian broshep.

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I'll just leave this here.....
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Yeah, give it up for dudes with asian influences.

Sorry, I have nothing else to post about..


LOL @ HellishFiend
I've had it with these motherfcken husks on this...

Modifié par lex0r11, 02 mai 2012 - 05:30 .


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Hey I found something interesting. In me2 legion says sovereign refers to himself as "nazara "

I looked the term up and turned out to be a old biblical word related to "nazareth".

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazareth#section_12

Not sure what to make of it... any ideas ?

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llbountyhunter

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HellishFiend wrote...

I'll just leave this here.....
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Clearly fake. jackson wouldnt have any paragon!

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Arian Dynas

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paxxton wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Heya folks, what's new?

Most of my college stuff done for the next four months, but got a headache and feeling kinda ****ty, doubting IDT for no reason in particular, so give me something to feel better about.


You are being indoctrinated. Posted Image


Heh, perhaps I am. Though my eyes are blue naturally, so how could I ever tell?

byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

As to the IFF, this is an interesting note simply because it did not appear to work at all. As an "Identify: Friend or Foe" script, successful use should have resulted in all automated defenses ignoring the SR2. Yet, both the Oculi and Collectors are alerted to the Normandy. The SR2 would have to of been spotted manually to be beset, otherwise.


Well by the time they sent the Collector Ship after you, you'd already gotten within visual range of the base.

As for the Occuli, I just figured they were programmed to attack anything that wasnt the Collector Ship. Plus I think maintaining the IFF as well as basically running the entire ship with no crew was possibly putting some strain on EDI's systems. Its mentioned the IFF is super complicated to keep running in ME3. She needs like two million randomized encryption keys that evolve over time which she needs to keep track of for the IFF to work.


I have already given my thoughts on this.

It was explicitly stated that the IFF makes the Normandy indistinguishable to a genuine Reaper to Reaper forces, hence why it can manage to do it's stealth thing. The Reapers only come in to do their thing when they notice the Normandy starts scanning, making them wonder why a Reaper is using such inferior tech. Thanks to the IFF, they won't know Normandy isn't a Reaper until they see somthing amiss.  

 

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lex0r11 wrote...

Aaaawwwww, my beloved cuttlefish!

I wonder who is going to be the first to blow up my account's traffic. 



Dwailing wrote...

So, have you all heard about the 
supposed new multiplayer DLC, the Rebellion pack? It sounds kind of 
shifty, but if it's real, it could be cool.

http://fronttowardsg...ck-info-leaked/
hmmm....


Speaking of DLC, how about new enemey types? Okay, I can't think of one right now that could have at least three with unique traits, just saying..


New enemy types... how about a hanar husk? The only enemy that can make Zaeed run in fear


Pheonixes eh? Huh, maybe The Truth has a bit more to it than I thought. 

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Multiplayer question: would Elcor Soldiers be overpowered? imagine how many Heavy Weapons you fit on those walking tanks.


Lets see... Yes it COULD work, they would have to be EXTREMELY slow moving (which they are) Heavily armored, which they are, it would definetly add a new dimension to the whole thing. A sort of tank mode, capable perhaps of going toe to toe with a Banshee in close combat (if he's lucky) and obliterating enemies quickly and hitting hard, but it would definetly be VERY slow moving, 

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Alright has anybody else heard about these other races? Specifically the "virtual aliens?"

en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Races_of_the_Mass_Effect_universe

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DirtyPhoenix

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Dayum, that truth rumour's got more truth than I thought!

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Alright has anybody else heard about these other races? Specifically the "virtual aliens?"

en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Races_of_the_Mass_Effect_universe


I think Javik mentioned one of them, they were synthetics but implanted themselves with AI like in overlord and gradually became a synthetic race.

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Arian Dynas

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pirate1802 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Alright has anybody else heard about these other races? Specifically the "virtual aliens?"

en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Races_of_the_Mass_Effect_universe


I think Javik mentioned one of them, they were synthetics but implanted themselves with AI like in overlord and gradually became a synthetic race.


They were a species mentioned in Cerberus News Network.

They had downloaded themselves into a ship, with a virtual reality.

Yes it has been sugguested that said ship was indeed a Reaper.

They were saved supposedly.

Also I noticed an interesting hallmark about the Keepers, they dissolve when caught, what else does that? Praetorians.

Just something kinda interesting.

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Sooooooo, anyone else just a little upset that opening up the supposed 'victory' pack broke their multiplayer access? My friend who did not get on to claim his has no problems whatsoever getting and staying in a game, and before I quit for dinner, I didn't either. Then try to get back in and Oops, sorry! You's broke.

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byne wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Indoc theorists, please reassure so that I don't get pissed off and hate Mass Effect for this. At PAX East, they were explaining to the fans why the Citadel wasn't completely destroyed? Doesn't that mean they are telling us indirectly that the ending wasn't a dream and that the IT was untrue?

Please provide a strong counterargument because this is pissing me off. I just refuse to accept this mess of an ending.


Considering we actually see the Citadel blow apart, unless IT is true they're pretty much just lying.


Also Weekes + Merizan comments. No IT theorists has provided a solid counterargument to this, instead ignoring them by saying they are "toying with us".

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SubAstris wrote...

Also Weekes + Merizan comments. No IT theorists has provided a solid counterargument to this, instead ignoring them by saying they are "toying with us".


Why do we need counter arguments to PR mumbo jumbo?

Modifié par balance5050, 02 mai 2012 - 06:29 .


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SubAstris wrote...

Also Weekes + Merizan comments. No IT theorists has provided a solid counterargument to this, instead ignoring them by saying they are "toying with us".


LINK WHAT WAS SAID!!!

Modifié par balance5050, 02 mai 2012 - 06:30 .


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DirtyPhoenix

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Merizan also said the Normandy crashed on Earth so...

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Multiplayer question: would Elcor Soldiers be overpowered? imagine how many Heavy Weapons you fit on those walking tanks.


Yes, that's why they should only carry the one cannon, that way the classes are balanced.