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[xsdob]

pirate1802 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Merizan also said the Normandy crashed on Earth so...

I'd be interested to see the tweet

I dont use tweeter, just saw it somewhere here. I'm sure someone else can dig it out

Ah, the old reliable 'I saw it somewhere' witness, always a good sign of validity.

All joking aside I do not belive merizan is truly the most trustworthy of sources for what is or is not continuity, espically where the ending is concerned.

Modifié par xsdob, 02 mai 2012 - 07:46 .

[Baldsake]

I've said it before but I'll say it again: Ignore dem tweets! Seriously, nothing Merizan tweets can confirm/deny anything because she doesn't KNOW anything.

[Arian Dynas]

Hawk227 wrote...

So, I finally got around to starting another ME3 playthrough after finishing the first two again. I noticed a couple things pretty quickly.

1) I noticed the conversation when you spar with Vega, the same song plays as when at the culmination of the convo with TIM at the end. Probably means nothing, but throwing it out there.

Hmm, a very interesting thought, and to be honest, a fairly stupid idea, but what if James has been Indoctrinated this whole time?

Think about it, he sacrificed his squad for data while fighting the Collectors, who's to say he wasn't captured?

He's also near suicidal, complains about a hum, 

Oh and what is one thing a Reaper can do? Use indoctrinated beings to amplify it's signals.

Or I could be out of my mind, who knows? But hey, LOTS OF SPECULATION!!!!!

[xsdob]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

So, I finally got around to starting another ME3 playthrough after finishing the first two again. I noticed a couple things pretty quickly.

1) I noticed the conversation when you spar with Vega, the same song plays as when at the culmination of the convo with TIM at the end. Probably means nothing, but throwing it out there.

Hmm, a very interesting thought, and to be honest, a fairly stupid idea, but what if James has been Indoctrinated this whole time?

Think about it, he sacrificed his squad for data while fighting the Collectors, who's to say he wasn't captured?

He's also near suicidal, complains about a hum, 

Oh and what is one thing a Reaper can do? Use indoctrinated beings to amplify it's signals.

Or I could be out of my mind, who knows? But hey, LOTS OF SPECULATION!!!!!

The virmire survivor has more of a chance of being indoctrinated. We know that they were captured by the collectors, and for someone who served with shepard they seemed awfully set on being against you, and in favor of the indoctrinated udina.

[MegumiAzusa]

Hmmm let me grasping at emergency induction ports here but:
Anderson's "It's quite a view." as the description of Earth and TIM's "Earth, it's so perfect." boils down to about the same thing?

(added trolling: "Aesthetically pleasing view detected, organics may want to take note.")

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Speaking of the Virmire survivor, I had had a theory once about that after playing through ME2. If you recall during the attack on Horizon, Kaiden/Ashely is stung by one of the drones and put in some kind of stasis. But despite this they somehow avoided capture. I thought at first the Collectors didn't have enough time with Shepard arriving but the Collector General walked over them or at least near them, I can't remember at the moment, but I kept on thinking "If they didn't escape, why would the Collector's leave them behind?"

So I started thinking maybe that would be brought up in 3 somewhere, either a quick explanation or something more sinister like that survivor being turned against through indoctrination, some kind of collector implant. That also got me thinking maybe the Reapers did the same with the squad member that died on Virmire, scooped them up before bomb went off, but that seems improbable with them possibly sitting right on top of the bomb (depending on who you save).

Anyway, it's possible Kaiden/Ashley got some kind of collector/reaper tech on them during Horizon, or they were just really really lucky and avoided capture after being put into stasis.

[MegumiAzusa]

Hihoshi101 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...




http://i.imgur.com/RIIzj.jpg  

Just checked based off reference points I am pretty sure the middle one is being used in game... using an Xbox 360...

They are pretty much different version, notice the colors and positioning from the crucible is off on the left cube and the scene is at it's minimum in the right cube.

[Arian Dynas]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Speaking of the Virmire survivor, I had had a theory once about that after playing through ME2. If you recall during the attack on Horizon, Kaiden/Ashely is stung by one of the drones and put in some kind of stasis. But despite this they somehow avoided capture. I thought at first the Collectors didn't have enough time with Shepard arriving but the Collector General walked over them or at least near them, I can't remember at the moment, but I kept on thinking "If they didn't escape, why would the Collector's leave them behind?"

So I started thinking maybe that would be brought up in 3 somewhere, either a quick explanation or something more sinister like that survivor being turned against through indoctrination, some kind of collector implant. That also got me thinking maybe the Reapers did the same with the squad member that died on Virmire, scooped them up before bomb went off, but that seems improbable with them possibly sitting right on top of the bomb (depending on who you save).

Anyway, it's possible Kaiden/Ashley got some kind of collector/reaper tech on them during Horizon, or they were just really really lucky and avoided capture after being put into stasis.

That was Lillith they walked over, and she WAS captured. Likely they simply never found the VS.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Speaking of the Virmire survivor, I had had a theory once about that after playing through ME2. If you recall during the attack on Horizon, Kaiden/Ashely is stung by one of the drones and put in some kind of stasis. But despite this they somehow avoided capture. I thought at first the Collectors didn't have enough time with Shepard arriving but the Collector General walked over them or at least near them, I can't remember at the moment, but I kept on thinking "If they didn't escape, why would the Collector's leave them behind?"

So I started thinking maybe that would be brought up in 3 somewhere, either a quick explanation or something more sinister like that survivor being turned against through indoctrination, some kind of collector implant. That also got me thinking maybe the Reapers did the same with the squad member that died on Virmire, scooped them up before bomb went off, but that seems improbable with them possibly sitting right on top of the bomb (depending on who you save).

Anyway, it's possible Kaiden/Ashley got some kind of collector/reaper tech on them during Horizon, or they were just really really lucky and avoided capture after being put into stasis.

That was Lillith they walked over, and she WAS captured. Likely they simply never found the VS.

I thought so, but Lilith is relativley close to where the VS was stunned, so if they had time for Lilith why not the VS..... Damn speculation reaching back into ME2 now.

[Arian Dynas]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Speaking of the Virmire survivor, I had had a theory once about that after playing through ME2. If you recall during the attack on Horizon, Kaiden/Ashely is stung by one of the drones and put in some kind of stasis. But despite this they somehow avoided capture. I thought at first the Collectors didn't have enough time with Shepard arriving but the Collector General walked over them or at least near them, I can't remember at the moment, but I kept on thinking "If they didn't escape, why would the Collector's leave them behind?"

So I started thinking maybe that would be brought up in 3 somewhere, either a quick explanation or something more sinister like that survivor being turned against through indoctrination, some kind of collector implant. That also got me thinking maybe the Reapers did the same with the squad member that died on Virmire, scooped them up before bomb went off, but that seems improbable with them possibly sitting right on top of the bomb (depending on who you save).

Anyway, it's possible Kaiden/Ashley got some kind of collector/reaper tech on them during Horizon, or they were just really really lucky and avoided capture after being put into stasis.

That was Lillith they walked over, and she WAS captured. Likely they simply never found the VS.

I thought so, but Lilith is relativley close to where the VS was stunned, so if they had time for Lilith why not the VS..... Damn speculation reaching back into ME2 now.

Actually Lillith ran while the VS held off the swarms.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Speaking of the Virmire survivor, I had had a theory once about that after playing through ME2. If you recall during the attack on Horizon, Kaiden/Ashely is stung by one of the drones and put in some kind of stasis. But despite this they somehow avoided capture. I thought at first the Collectors didn't have enough time with Shepard arriving but the Collector General walked over them or at least near them, I can't remember at the moment, but I kept on thinking "If they didn't escape, why would the Collector's leave them behind?"

So I started thinking maybe that would be brought up in 3 somewhere, either a quick explanation or something more sinister like that survivor being turned against through indoctrination, some kind of collector implant. That also got me thinking maybe the Reapers did the same with the squad member that died on Virmire, scooped them up before bomb went off, but that seems improbable with them possibly sitting right on top of the bomb (depending on who you save).

Anyway, it's possible Kaiden/Ashley got some kind of collector/reaper tech on them during Horizon, or they were just really really lucky and avoided capture after being put into stasis.

That was Lillith they walked over, and she WAS captured. Likely they simply never found the VS.

I thought so, but Lilith is relativley close to where the VS was stunned, so if they had time for Lilith why not the VS..... Damn speculation reaching back into ME2 now.

Actually Lillith ran while the VS held off the swarms.

How far though? Couldn't have been more than 15-25 feet, maybe more but I thought she was still in the same general area as the VS. Well darn now I gotta play through it again ....

[Emperor_Ike]

VS is frozen before Lillith, so why would the bugmen leave him/her behind? Obviously they know who the VS is and how important he/she is to Shepard's story. Has enough time passed to plant some kind of reaper tech in them, and for it to actually take hold? I doubt it, but why leave them to be potentially rescued and share the story of the harvest? =\\

[MaximizedAction]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

So, I finally got around to starting another ME3 playthrough after finishing the first two again. I noticed a couple things pretty quickly.

1) I noticed the conversation when you spar with Vega, the same song plays as when at the culmination of the convo with TIM at the end. Probably means nothing, but throwing it out there.

Hmm, a very interesting thought, and to be honest, a fairly stupid idea, but what if James has been Indoctrinated this whole time?

Think about it, he sacrificed his squad for data while fighting the Collectors, who's to say he wasn't captured?

He's also near suicidal, complains about a hum, 

Oh and what is one thing a Reaper can do? Use indoctrinated beings to amplify it's signals.

Or I could be out of my mind, who knows? But hey, LOTS OF SPECULATION!!!!!

and:

Vega is supposed to be the storywise 'you are here' marker for (new comer) players
vs.
We as the players are to be indoctrinated (by Bioware)

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 02 mai 2012 - 08:40 .

[liggy002]

Baldsake wrote...

I've said it before but I'll say it again: Ignore dem tweets! Seriously, nothing Merizan tweets can confirm/deny anything because she doesn't KNOW anything.

For that matter, nothing that even Bioware tweets should be taken at face value.  They might be just trying to get us all to speculate.

[Hawk227]

xsdob wrote...

The virmire survivor has more of a chance of being indoctrinated. We know that they were captured by the collectors, and for someone who served with shepard they seemed awfully set on being against you, and in favor of the indoctrinated udina.

Actually you reminded me of the third point I meant to make:

The first time I played through, I thought on Mars Kaidan was just being a whiny d**che like usual, but having played through the rest of the game it feels like more foreshadowing in line with Miranda emphasizing Shep has no control chip and the stuff on Chronos station about whether Shep was really shep. It's all there to instill some doubt in the player over Shepard's control over his own will.

[Arian Dynas]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

So, I finally got around to starting another ME3 playthrough after finishing the first two again. I noticed a couple things pretty quickly.

1) I noticed the conversation when you spar with Vega, the same song plays as when at the culmination of the convo with TIM at the end. Probably means nothing, but throwing it out there.

Hmm, a very interesting thought, and to be honest, a fairly stupid idea, but what if James has been Indoctrinated this whole time?

Think about it, he sacrificed his squad for data while fighting the Collectors, who's to say he wasn't captured?

He's also near suicidal, complains about a hum, 

Oh and what is one thing a Reaper can do? Use indoctrinated beings to amplify it's signals.

Or I could be out of my mind, who knows? But hey, LOTS OF SPECULATION!!!!!

and:

Vega is supposed to be the storywise 'you are here' marker for (new comer) players
vs.
We as the players are to be indoctrinated (by Bioware)

Oh I'm aware, I'm just throwing around bull**** theories because I'm bored.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Arian Dynas wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

So, I finally got around to starting another ME3 playthrough after finishing the first two again. I noticed a couple things pretty quickly.

1) I noticed the conversation when you spar with Vega, the same song plays as when at the culmination of the convo with TIM at the end. Probably means nothing, but throwing it out there.

Hmm, a very interesting thought, and to be honest, a fairly stupid idea, but what if James has been Indoctrinated this whole time?

Think about it, he sacrificed his squad for data while fighting the Collectors, who's to say he wasn't captured?

He's also near suicidal, complains about a hum, 

Oh and what is one thing a Reaper can do? Use indoctrinated beings to amplify it's signals.

Or I could be out of my mind, who knows? But hey, LOTS OF SPECULATION!!!!!

and:

Vega is supposed to be the storywise 'you are here' marker for (new comer) players
vs.
We as the players are to be indoctrinated (by Bioware)

Oh I'm aware, I'm just throwing around bull**** theories because I'm bored.

Heh, I'm with you on that bro.

[MaximizedAction]

Arian Dynas wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

So, I finally got around to starting another ME3 playthrough after finishing the first two again. I noticed a couple things pretty quickly.

1) I noticed the conversation when you spar with Vega, the same song plays as when at the culmination of the convo with TIM at the end. Probably means nothing, but throwing it out there.

Hmm, a very interesting thought, and to be honest, a fairly stupid idea, but what if James has been Indoctrinated this whole time?

Think about it, he sacrificed his squad for data while fighting the Collectors, who's to say he wasn't captured?

He's also near suicidal, complains about a hum, 

Oh and what is one thing a Reaper can do? Use indoctrinated beings to amplify it's signals.

Or I could be out of my mind, who knows? But hey, LOTS OF SPECULATION!!!!!

and:

Vega is supposed to be the storywise 'you are here' marker for (new comer) players
vs.
We as the players are to be indoctrinated (by Bioware)

Oh I'm aware, I'm just throwing around bull**** theories because I'm bored.

I rather have your theories than the effortless bs non-arguments coming from the introllicated presences.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Starting to see Indoctrination in other games I'm playing... Yeah I think I'm a bit too into it all o_o

[Icinix]

Not really anything of note, but the ME3 first trailer with the Big Ben Sniper had clues leading after the snippet that were all true and required looking into for evidence that supported ME3 then finished with a red herring.

Casey Hudson said ME3 would have red herrings.

Just a thought.

[MaximizedAction]

Icinix wrote...

Not really anything of note, but the ME3 first trailer with the Big Ben Sniper had clues leading after the snippet that were all true and required looking into for evidence that supported ME3 then finished with a red herring.

Casey Hudson said ME3 would have red herrings.

Just a thought.

What clues do you mean?

[Icinix]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Not really anything of note, but the ME3 first trailer with the Big Ben Sniper had clues leading after the snippet that were all true and required looking into for evidence that supported ME3 then finished with a red herring.

Casey Hudson said ME3 would have red herrings.

Just a thought.

What clues do you mean?

We got the snippet of the big ben sniper - but no hard evidence about it being ME3 trailer.

BioWare started releasing clues that related to the Mass of Iron, MI6 etc. Then the last clue before they announced it was a picture of a red herring.

Edit: 
http://www.eurogamer...ame-info-teased 

Modifié par Icinix, 02 mai 2012 - 11:48 .

[UrgedDuke]

no comments in over an hour? wow we aren't holding the line

[NoSpin]

UrgedDuke wrote...

no comments in over an hour? wow we aren't holding the line

You can only speculate so much with the limited things we have. It's basically a waiting game now.

That and the constant having to shoot down Merizan tweets every 20 pages.

[estebanus]

Hello again, anything new?

P.S. Sorry that I can't be online that much. I have to study for a pretty huge exam at my university, so I can't spend that much time here.