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balance5050 wrote...

Who was that Asari in ME1 that was like a therapist? An... erotic therapist?


Sha'ira, the Asari Consort.

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balance5050 wrote...

Who was that Asari in ME1 that was like a therapist? An... erotic therapist?


Sha'ira the Consort? What about her? I'd personally like that kind of therapy...

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

As said: good points. I relate this too everyone having a paticular perspective. A Batarian might think all humans think alike, a human might think Asari look just like humans and Turian male and females are indistinguishable from each other. Buta Turian male would know a female from a male, right?


If you look at it from an evolutionary scale, it would make sense because they are all basically female/femenine anyway. So they have already interbred with all the species worth breeding with. So they actually DO have all the strong features that would be passed down genetically.

Does that make sense? I really want to know.

Modifié par balance5050, 02 mai 2012 - 10:34 .


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There is an interesting analogy between the endings of ME2 and ME3.

Attack the Collector base <=> Attack London
Make the Proto-Reaper collapse (to evade its completion) <=> Evade a Reaper laser to get to the beam
Destroy the Collector base by planting a bomb <=> Destroy the Reapers by letting the Crucible attach to the Citadel
Talk to TIM (Shepard's personality coherent) <=> talk to TIM (Shepard's personality divided)
Fight the Proto-Reaper <=> Fight (mentally) the Starchild (Harbinger/a Reaper)
The rest are "consequences".

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NeoDobby wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Who was that Asari in ME1 that was like a therapist? An... erotic therapist?


Sha'ira the Consort? What about her? I'd personally like that kind of therapy...


Yeah, nothing about her I was just reminded of her... Because I would like that therapy as well...:whistle:

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I like how during the conversation with TIM and Anderson, you can see skycars flying by in the background, like everyone on the Citadel is just going on with their day.

"Yeah, I mean, theres a Reaper takeover of the station, but I've got to get to the store to buy milk!"

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byne wrote...

I like how during the conversation with TIM and Anderson, you can see skycars flying by in the background, like everyone on the Citadel is just going on with their day.

"Yeah, I mean, theres a Reaper takeover of the station, but I've got to get to the store to buy milk!"


Reapers gon' reap. Commuters gon' commute.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

As said: good points. I relate this too everyone having a paticular perspective. A Batarian might think all humans think alike, a human might think Asari look just like humans and Turian male and females are indistinguishable from each other. Buta Turian male would know a female from a male, right?


If you look at it from an evolutionary scale, it would make sense because they are all basically female/femenine anyway. So they have already interbred with all the species worth breeding with. So they actually DO have all the strong features that would be passed down genetically.

Does that make sense? I really want to know.


Hmm, yeah, they would carry genetics of all the races in them. Although I'm not sure it was genetics, as there is no physical contact required.

But what would have made the first Asari who met Salarians attractive to them then? And they don't seem to carry those features on the outside. Liara is quarter Krogan for example. They always still look like asari.

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byne wrote...

I like how during the conversation with TIM and Anderson, you can see skycars flying by in the background, like everyone on the Citadel is just going on with their day.

"Yeah, I mean, theres a Reaper takeover of the station, but I've got to get to the store to buy milk!"


I thought that was weird too... they could have at least tinted it red or put some smaller reapers flying in there in there. Those "Ocules" perhaps?

It's either because Shepard has never seen it on full lock down, or full destroyed, and he can't reproduce that image from memory..... or Bioware is lazy.

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Simon_Says wrote...

byne wrote...

I like how during the conversation with TIM and Anderson, you can see skycars flying by in the background, like everyone on the Citadel is just going on with their day.

"Yeah, I mean, theres a Reaper takeover of the station, but I've got to get to the store to buy milk!"


Reapers gon' reap. Commuters gon' commute.


War? What war? Citadel is safe. We had a reaper attack three years ago. What are the odds that'll happen again? Huh? HUH?

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balance5050 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

As said: good points. I relate this too everyone having a paticular perspective. A Batarian might think all humans think alike, a human might think Asari look just like humans and Turian male and females are indistinguishable from each other. Buta Turian male would know a female from a male, right?


If you look at it from an evolutionary scale, it would make sense because they are all basically female/femenine anyway. So they have already interbred with all the species worth breeding with. So they actually DO have all the strong features that would be passed down genetically.

Does that make sense? I really want to know.


But asari don't inherit traits from the "father" in terms of physical appearance I don't think, otherwise they'd have krogan plates and turian metallic skin, human hair etc. I think what they inherit is in their brain, which would explain some side-dialogue, "Sometimes you say these things, maybe it's because you had a Batarian father...." and my favorite "I do not... Head-butt people!" Not only that but some asari are "pureblood" and don't have alien genetics so wouldn't have these aesthetic similarities if it were not from personal perspective.

I think  I just confused myself, let me know I made sense.

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balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...

I like how during the conversation with TIM and Anderson, you can see skycars flying by in the background, like everyone on the Citadel is just going on with their day.

"Yeah, I mean, theres a Reaper takeover of the station, but I've got to get to the store to buy milk!"


I thought that was weird too... they could have at least tinted it red or put some smaller reapers flying in there in there. Those "Ocules" perhaps?

It's either because Shepard has never seen it on full lock down, or full destroyed, and he can't reproduce that image from memory..... or Bioware is lazy.


Shepard did see the Citadel in full lockdown. See the run for Sovereign on the tower exterior in ME1. Btw, the wards background animations are the same.

This is also where the "it's all from his memories" holds onto.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

As said: good points. I relate this too everyone having a paticular perspective. A Batarian might think all humans think alike, a human might think Asari look just like humans and Turian male and females are indistinguishable from each other. Buta Turian male would know a female from a male, right?


If you look at it from an evolutionary scale, it would make sense because they are all basically female/femenine anyway. So they have already interbred with all the species worth breeding with. So they actually DO have all the strong features that would be passed down genetically.

Does that make sense? I really want to know.


But asari don't inherit traits from the "father" in terms of physical appearance I don't think, otherwise they'd have krogan plates and turian metallic skin, human hair etc. I think what they inherit is in their brain, which would explain some side-dialogue, "Sometimes you say these things, maybe it's because you had a Batarian father...." and my favorite "I do not... Head-butt people!" Not only that but some asari are "pureblood" and don't have alien genetics so wouldn't have these aesthetic similarities if it were not from personal perspective.

I think  I just confused myself, let me know I made sense.


The codex says that taking the genes of the father is only ancedotal but i always thought that was weird cause if theyre so advanced they should have figured this out

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

As said: good points. I relate this too everyone having a paticular perspective. A Batarian might think all humans think alike, a human might think Asari look just like humans and Turian male and females are indistinguishable from each other. Buta Turian male would know a female from a male, right?


If you look at it from an evolutionary scale, it would make sense because they are all basically female/femenine anyway. So they have already interbred with all the species worth breeding with. So they actually DO have all the strong features that would be passed down genetically.

Does that make sense? I really want to know.


But asari don't inherit traits from the "father" in terms of physical appearance I don't think, otherwise they'd have krogan plates and turian metallic skin, human hair etc. I think what they inherit is in their brain, which would explain some side-dialogue, "Sometimes you say these things, maybe it's because you had a Batarian father...." and my favorite "I do not... Head-butt people!" Not only that but some asari are "pureblood" and don't have alien genetics so wouldn't have these aesthetic similarities if it were not from personal perspective.

I think  I just confused myself, let me know I made sense.


Yep, basically what I was trying to say in my mumbojumbo - if we put the two posts together maybe the others can make sense of it too.

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byne wrote...

So, I'm playing the London mission for like the 10th time.

Am I the only one who finds it hard to believe they have so many phone booths around?

I mean, its 2186. We hardly even use phone booths now in 2012. Why would there be so many?

For some reason it reminds me of this Futurama clip.


Uncharted 3 had them as well. And no, they are not a common sight in the UK either.

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NeoDobby wrote...

Hmm, yeah, they would carry genetics of all the races in them. Although I'm not sure it was genetics, as there is no physical contact required.

BZZZT. Wrong. Lots of physical contact required, that much we know. What's actually going on on the physiological level, no clue. Something about melding of nervous systems, somehow.

NeoDobby wrote...

But what would have made the first Asari who met Salarians attractive to them then? And they don't seem to carry those features on the outside. Liara is quarter Krogan for example. They always still look like asari.

Hey, there are humans on earth who thought Garrus attractive enough to make BW consider makig him a romance option. People also wanted a Wrex romance iirc.

We know the asari aren't shy about boldly going. The salarians... I dunno. For science(!)?

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So, listening to what TIM says in the ending:

When humanity first discovered the mass relays... when we learned there was more to the galaxy than we imagined... there were some who thought the relays should be destroyed.

They were scared of what we'd find. Terrified of what we might let in. But look at what humanity has achieved!

Since that discovery, we've advanced more than the past 10,000 years combined. And the Reapers will do the same for us again. A thousand-fold. But... only if we can harness their ability to control.


Anyone find it odd that the ending TIM wanted (control) is also the only ending in which we dont actually see the relays completely blow up?

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Quick guys: What ending should I choose? I've done destroy 10 times in a row, not doing it again.

Just like that time a while back when i asked you to choose the genocide I committed, first response wins!

Blue or Green!

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byne wrote...

Quick guys: What ending should I choose? I've done destroy 10 times in a row, not doing it again.

Just like that time a while when i asked you to choose the genocide I committed, first response wins!

SYNTHESIS

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Simon_Says wrote...

byne wrote...

Quick guys: What ending should I choose? I've done destroy 10 times in a row, not doing it again.

Just like that time a while when i asked you to choose the genocide I committed, first response wins!

SYNTHESIS


Space Magic it is!

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Simon_Says wrote...

byne wrote...

Quick guys: What ending should I choose? I've done destroy 10 times in a row, not doing it again.

Just like that time a while when i asked you to choose the genocide I committed, first response wins!

SYNTHESIS


Typical collector's answer :P

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Time to go, hope I will not miss the 2000 when I get back.

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Time to go, hope I will not miss the 2000 when I get back.


G' night!

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I wonder how Javik will feel about being half-robot?

Throw me out the airlock, Commander.

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byne wrote...

Quick guys: What ending should I choose? I've done destroy 10 times in a row, not doing it again.

Just like that time a while back when i asked you to choose the genocide I committed, first response wins!

Blue or Green!


How often did you play ME3 completely through? :blink: