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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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#49601
Tirian Thorn

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Rosewind wrote...

Anyone else think that Dr Chakwas and Admiral Hackett would make a good pair.....


Why because they're both old and white?   **Sarcasm**

Did you see the latest South Park where Cartman sets up Token and the new girl Nicole because they are both black? 

Very funny! 

   Cartman signing "I Swear"

#49602
llbountyhunter

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just got back, did I miss anything besides diabetes?

#49603
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Tirian Thorn wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Anyone else think that Dr Chakwas and Admiral Hackett would make a good pair.....


Why because they're both old and white?   **Sarcasm**

Did you see the latest South Park where Cartman sets up Token and the new girl Nicole because they are both black? 

Very funny! 

   Cartman signing "I Swear"


Well not just that, I just think they would suit each other honestly. And keeps her aways from my Zaeed :P

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llbountyhunter wrote...

just got back, did I miss anything besides diabetes?


Rose is trying to play match-maker. 

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Anyone else think that Dr Chakwas and Admiral Hackett would make a good pair.....


Why because they're both old and white?   **Sarcasm**

Did you see the latest South Park where Cartman sets up Token and the new girl Nicole because they are both black? 

Very funny! 

   Cartman signing "I Swear"


**** YOU CUPID ME!

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SS2Dante wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

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So here's a fun fact I might have already mentioned. Figured this out thanks to a friend playing through ME3, non-import, 6000+ EMS, 100% readiness, less than 100% reputation. I had beaten the game a week prior, got the secret ending (shepard's breath), wasn't sure if you needed import or NG+ to get it, but kept telling him to pick the red ending once he got there anyway, without spoiling it for him. So he gets to the TIM confrontation and doesn't have the reputation to "paragon the ****" out of him," Anderson dies.

Because of this, his ONLY two options are Control and Synthesis, he didn't even get the destroy cutscene showing Anderson, the Destroy tube was empty on that side. I theorize that, if Anderson represents your willpower in this hallucination, and you fail to stop his outright execution you lack the necessary willpower to overcome Indoctrination, having no option to Destroy the attempt whatsoever. Whereas if you save Anderson, he dies anyway, but not by TIMs/The Reapers hand, and he's able to offer words of encouragement which gives you the boost in willpower that makes the Destroy option available.

OR

According to the choice system/mechanics you just don't have enough reputation points to have all 3 options available. My friend's playing through again with a fully imported character soon (still working on ME2) so we'll see how that goes.


Interesting. Did your friend save or destroy the collector base? And can we get the specific numbers of EMS and stuff? 

Did anyone else lose Anderson so we can compare this?


He says his friend didnt import, so he had no opportunity to choose between saving or destroying the base. 

Also, I did a run through with my main save and tried letting Anderson get shot by TIM, and I still received all 3 choices. 

My current hypothesis right now is that a playthrough with poor choices and poor "tangible" assets but with a high EMS due to multiplayer could yield this scenario. I'm planning on trying it out over the next couple of days. 


D'oh. Well spotted. Hmm the default option appears to be that the collector base is destroyed. 

...looking at the default choices...man. The default Shepard sucked. It would seem that, given that gunslinger is telling the truth (I trust ya :P) then their must be other variables effecting the final choice aside from EMS and the collector base decision? Current understanding doesn't explain the given scenario.

Perhaps the number of squadmates alive or something. Maybe Shepard needs a reason to keep fighting? Need more data!



Did he play on PC or Console? Maybe you could upload a savegame so we can analyze what choices he made and what effects they had.

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estebanus wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Sweet, 1984. That was a good year.



I hope you don't mean the book, because its ending was depressing as hell!


Yeah very depressing. Not the jut ending, the whole effing setting. My country fell into the contested area, so I guess I'd have been a slave in that universe :'S

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I just noticed that we're on page 1984...

BIOWARE IS WATCHING YOU.

(You get a cookie if you get the reference!)


Superman Red Son?

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No. I'm talking about the book 1984! By George Orwell!:D

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estebanus wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I just noticed that we're on page 1984...

BIOWARE IS WATCHING YOU.

(You get a cookie if you get the reference!)


Superman Red Son?

Posted Image



No. I'm talking about the book 1984! By George Orwell!Posted Image


Duh, the book 1984....  Why was I thinking of Superman....?  Oh well... 

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

just got back, did I miss anything besides diabetes?


Rose is trying to play match-maker. 


WEll nothing else for me to do beside mess around with Photoshop

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hey we're almost to 2000!

#49612
lex0r11

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blooregard wrote...

hey we're almost to 2000!


Hope I won't miss it, got something planned.

:ph34r:

Modifié par lex0r11, 03 mai 2012 - 03:53 .


#49613
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On page 2012, this thread will end.

#49614
llbountyhunter

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Unschuld wrote...

On page 2012, this thread will end.


actually it will end on 2000..... then again on 2006.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 03 mai 2012 - 03:55 .


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Tirian Thorn

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Unschuld wrote...

On page 2012, this thread will end.


It's all Snooki's fault! 

*EDIT*    Damn Oompa Loompa! 

Modifié par Tirian Thorn, 03 mai 2012 - 03:55 .


#49616
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Don't think I can last that long already falling asleep :P

#49617
Tirian Thorn

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Rosewind wrote...

Don't think I can last that long already falling asleep :P


Lunch time here... 

I could really go for a burger, but I'd rather wait and get Red Robin for dinner tonight. 

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

On page 2012, this thread will end.


actually it will end on 2000..... then again on 2006.


And once more on 2011 then finally on 2012

#49619
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The last 10 pages took like ~8 hours, I think.

So no hurry.

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"In other news, literalists still can't explain how Anderson getting shot by TIM raises the EMS limit required for Shepard to survive by a thousand"


The death of a close ally would have been catastrophic for Shepard (yes he has seen others he has been close to die, but Anderson is the one person who has backed him from day one). To see him die at the hands of an enemy would reduce his moral drastically.
I would like to say one more thing aswell. EMS is played fast and loose and often applied inconsistently by BW, I don't think much can be ascertained from it

#49621
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SS2Dante wrote...

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I will just answer 4) very quickly, I'll do otherS a bit later. At the start of ME3, TIM is confident, he has Kai Leng on his side, one of the best assasins in the world, has a massive army, lots of time; at the end, it is just him and you. His fortunes have changed now, it has become more personal.


But in this scene he's about to WIN. He's standing at the control panel of the device he insists will allow him to control the Reapers (his stated goal throughout the game). And yet he never activates it, even though you're paralysed and can't stop him. 


As I have said before, TIM is a megalomaniac, he wants people to believe in the idea of Cerberus, as he puts. Furthermore, he cannot activate the panel anyone because he is indoctrinated.

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SubAstris wrote...

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I would like to say one more thing aswell. EMS is played fast and loose and often applied inconsistently by BW, I don't think much can be ascertained from it


I agree. Game mechanics are game mechanics and rarely "logic".

That would be "too video gamey", amiright?
Wait..

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#49623
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Well night all I am off to bed got to baby sit my nephew tomorrow.

#49624
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Rosewind wrote...

Well night all I am off to bed got to baby sit my nephew tomorrow.



Goodnight!

#49625
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Never heard of this before,



Short convo with EDI stating that the leaders have been instructed to board the megastuctures to negotiate "peace".