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Do any IT theorists believe that TIM and Anderson will make an appearance in the EC? The ending taken at face-value ties up those character arcs quite nicely just saying
Probably, they're pretty big characters so assuming IT their story hasn't been concluded.
Face value does tie up the stories of TIm and Anderson, that's true, though there are also a metric tonne of odd things that happen during the TIM Anderson conversation.
I didn't really get the idea that that scene was particularly odd
Dream whispers, the crucible drum, TIms new powers, TIM telling you he "needs you to believe", the odd things that happen to your EMS, the bullet wound, both platforms that magically appear, Hacket magically knowing you're both alive AND on the citadel...
These are my responses, feel free to disagree
1 &2) I can't remember specific instances of these, care to provide link with timings where you think they are?
3) On the Cerberus base, there is a log that tells you that TIM has been fitted with implants.
4) Like most megalomaniacs, TIM wants you to believe because he thinks he is right.
5) I guess you are talking about Anderson dying and living, I don't really know how this could be used as evidence specifically for IT
6) By platforms that appear I guess you mean when Shep and Anderson sit down. I'm sure this is not to do with indoctrination and more to do with getting a nice scene of the two both looking at the view. Because after all, it does look nice, the same effect could not have been achieved if Anderson was flat on the floor.
7) Hackett sees the Citadel arms open. He knows that Shepard was on the team to get to the Citadel and he was their best chance. So when he opens, he assumes that Shepard is the one there.
1)Here (time linked). Whispers begin at the deep "booom" noise. They continue all the way to the end of the cutscene.
http://www.youtube.c...czhHtqgY#t=324s
2) In the link above you'll hear the drum beat the very second you first see TIM (it's like 10 seconds after where I linked).
3) Implants that let him control Anderson?
4) The writers go out of their way to show that in ME3 TIM has lost respect for Shepard. Odd that he needs validation when his goal is like 5 feet away and Shepard is paralysed.
5) The EMS boosts are in line with IT. In particular, if you convince TIM to fight indoctrination (cap himself) you only need 4000 EMS to "wake up". Works if he's a part of you, not so much in literal.
6) No it couldn't, but even a small animation of the platform being raised would have helped. Odd that they missed that. Also you didn't address the bullet wound?
7) But Hackett doesn't ask if Shep is there, he simply starts as if he knows. Even if he was going by who was missing he should have been calling for Anderson.
1) Ok thanks for the link, seen the video. Seems as though it was added there for atmosphere; the whispers are meant to show the effect of TIM's new powers on Shepard
2) My answer above
3) We have been shown that at the Cerberus Base, TIM is getting implants, presumably Reaper-tech, which give him new powers. This power is then demonstrated when he meets Shepard face-to-face. The question is, why put such a log in if IT is true?
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5) The EMS boosts are in line with IT in the sense that it is strange. They don't provide solid positive evidence for, it and have already commented as to why I think putting too much emphasis on EMS might be a bad idea.
6) They could have included it, but who would want to have scene in one of the most touching moments of the entire trilogy focus on a platform being raised rather than on emotional content? Again it is an unnecessary thing for BW to do. And what about the bullet wound?
7) I think it would have been better if Hackett had said, "Is anyone there?" but they didn't. My thoughts is that BW believed it didn't really matter
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