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[RMP _]

I'm all for the dream theory. I didn't see it on the first page, it's probably somewhere in this 2000 page thread, but did anyone note that the circle in the middle of the room that they lean on only comes up after opening the arms? It's something that might happen in a dream. And, why did the Catalyst boy bring Shepard, laying near death right in front of the console, up to that final area in the first place? He could have just left Shepard alone to die and eventually the Reapers would just win without the crucible firing.

[EpyonX3]

marcelo_sdk wrote...

The Catalyst insists that synthetics will eventually kill organics if the Reapers don't stop them. But since we met Legion, the game try to show us that Geths are not bad guys and they would accept peace with organics. So, if the ends as we saw are true, why Shepard didn't argue nothing? Especially if we make peace betwen Quarians and Geths? He could destroy the childs arguments, as he does normally, but instead he just keep quiet...

Just because the Geth were peaceful, doesn't mean they are the ones to go crazy on organics. The maniac killer robots could be created by any other race like Humans. Ever wonder what will happen when Security Mechs get tweaked with AI's? Not all of them will be as nice as EDI.

Remember, the catalyst says that even if you destroy the reapers, The children of humanity will eventually create synthetics again and the chaos will return.

Modifié par EpyonX3, 03 mai 2012 - 05:44 .

[spotlessvoid]

Subastris:
You are correct, this is an open thread. You can save the sanctimonious tone for someone else though. You have been repeatedly condescending of IDT and it's fans so why act surprised when met with disdain in response?

I'll give you this though, you do put in serious effort debating. I just think you fail to realize how few substantive points you have actually successfully made in contrast to how often you derail the conversation. Considering the frequency of your mocking of IDT fans and your unwillingness to even consider IDT as being possible, it really isn't hard to see why you are not warmly welcomed.

[Tirian Thorn]

CAKE IN THE HAPPY ENDING!! SWEET!! 

Modifié par Tirian Thorn, 03 mai 2012 - 05:47 .

[EpyonX3]

RMP _ wrote...

I'm all for the dream theory. I didn't see it on the first page, it's probably somewhere in this 2000 page thread, but did anyone note that the circle in the middle of the room that they lean on only comes up after opening the arms? It's something that might happen in a dream. And, why did the Catalyst boy bring Shepard, laying near death right in front of the console, up to that final area in the first place? He could have just left Shepard alone to die and eventually the Reapers would just win without the crucible firing.

The platform in the middle of the room could have raised after the arms were open. This was there to make Shepard getting up more dramatic.

Why did the child bring Shepard up? The Crucible had docked, therefore, turned the catalyst on and influenced it to present shepard with the choices.

[SS2Dante]

EpyonX3 wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

The Catalyst insists that synthetics will eventually kill organics if the Reapers don't stop them. But since we met Legion, the game try to show us that Geths are not bad guys and they would accept peace with organics. So, if the ends as we saw are true, why Shepard didn't argue nothing? Especially if we make peace betwen Quarians and Geths? He could destroy the childs arguments, as he does normally, but instead he just keep quiet...

Just because the Geth were peaceful, doesn't mean they are the ones to go crazy on organics. The maniac killer robots could be created by any other race like Humans. Ever wonder what will happen when Security Mechs get tweaked with AI's? Not all of them will be as nice as EDI.

Remember, the catalyst says that even if you destroy the reapers, The children of humanity will eventually create synthetics again and the chaos will return.

Heyyy, Epyon. Haven't seen you around here recently

Did you catch the cubemap images being spotted in the game?

[DirtyPhoenix]

...Anad finally we reach the year of my birth!

[EpyonX3]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

CAKE IN THE HAPPY ENDING!! SWEET!! 

I hope that cake isn't made from Pyjacks....

[balance5050]

RMP _ wrote...

I'm all for the dream theory. I didn't see it on the first page, it's probably somewhere in this 2000 page thread, but did anyone note that the circle in the middle of the room that they lean on only comes up after opening the arms? It's something that might happen in a dream. And, why did the Catalyst boy bring Shepard, laying near death right in front of the console, up to that final area in the first place? He could have just left Shepard alone to die and eventually the Reapers would just win without the crucible firing.

Thx for noticing that rising circle! Yeah, we already made jokes about how the reapers just wanted Shep and Andy to be comfortable.



The Reaper Sleep Number Mattress--

 It' so comfortable, WE KNOW YOU'LL  FEEL THIS.

[iggy1eco]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Rifneno wrote...


Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Reapers turned out to be from another dimension. I've never bought the excuse that they need to go way out into intergalactic space. They could hide just as well within the Milky Way. Bioware even acknowledges that with the heretic geth station. Anyway, I'll digress before I do my usual 4 page tangent on that topic... the only reason I doubt they come from another dimension is because that's the kind of trope that they've been trying to avoid using in Mass Effect.

Plus, coming from another dimension is meaningless. Something can come from an alternate universe, but anything tangible must at least exist within space/time dimensions. Any self contained reality existing outside of those would be a multiverse

I was just Brainstorming. But I like to think they're been at it in this dimension, this galaxy, for thousands and thousands of years. No other dimensions or multiverses attached. Only too ancient and sentient. But I also like to consider another possibilities on their origins

[NeoDobby]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Here's the thing waldstr, I'm not a malicious person. You pretty much disappeared from this thread so I had no reason to continue my collection or pass my findings on to the moderators. I don't actually have any desire to see you banned. Your quotes painted a clear picture so I had hoped you either realized the reputation you have here was well earned and decided to stop, or didn't want to push your luck and possibly face the ban hammer.

Honestly, for me, a simple acknowledgment that your history on this thread constitutes trolling followed by renouncing any future plan to troll this thread would be enough to let it go.

Your decision sir

It's like they always say: Trolls hate to be ignored. And if he is a troll, upsetting you is what he wants. That's why he asked if you finished the list. But what I don't get is why it matters so much to you that he acknoledges it? Do you want a confession to show the mods?

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to fight you or anything, and I don't want to defend him. But it seems to be better to just let it go and the problem will solve itself if we can manage to ignore him.

[EpyonX3]

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

The Catalyst insists that synthetics will eventually kill organics if the Reapers don't stop them. But since we met Legion, the game try to show us that Geths are not bad guys and they would accept peace with organics. So, if the ends as we saw are true, why Shepard didn't argue nothing? Especially if we make peace betwen Quarians and Geths? He could destroy the childs arguments, as he does normally, but instead he just keep quiet...

Just because the Geth were peaceful, doesn't mean they are the ones to go crazy on organics. The maniac killer robots could be created by any other race like Humans. Ever wonder what will happen when Security Mechs get tweaked with AI's? Not all of them will be as nice as EDI.

Remember, the catalyst says that even if you destroy the reapers, The children of humanity will eventually create synthetics again and the chaos will return.

Heyyy, Epyon. Haven't seen you around here recently

Did you catch the cubemap images being spotted in the game?

Hey dude. Yeah i've been pretty busy lately.

I have been popping in and out but haven't been participating much. There's not much else to say or dispute at this point.

Yes I say the images of the cubemaps spotted in the game. My response to that is that they forgot to take it out along with other cut content from game. The voices of Shepard telling his crew to leave were actually part of deleted scenes. It's possible that they had trees in the final room but removed them.

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

RMP _ wrote...

I'm all for the dream theory. I didn't see it on the first page, it's probably somewhere in this 2000 page thread, but did anyone note that the circle in the middle of the room that they lean on only comes up after opening the arms? It's something that might happen in a dream. And, why did the Catalyst boy bring Shepard, laying near death right in front of the console, up to that final area in the first place? He could have just left Shepard alone to die and eventually the Reapers would just win without the crucible firing.

Thx for noticing that rising circle! Yeah, we already made jokes about how the reapers just wanted Shep and Andy to be comfortable.



The Reaper Sleep Number Mattress--

 It' so comfortable, WE KNOW YOU'LL  FEEL THIS.

OMG if someone can make a meme with that it'll make my day.

[balance5050]

Arian Dynas wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 Ok get this:


"The relays are made of an unknown but incredibly resilient material, the same material that the Citadel is built from, and are protected by a quantum shield that renders them nearly impervious to damage by locking their structure in place at the subatomic level. They are even capable of surviving a supernova's wake without being damaged."

So if the Citadel is made from the same stuff that can withstand the wake of a super nova, it sure does crumble easily if we are to believe the "Shepard Alive" scene is actually on the Citadel.

My friend, I care for you deeply. But there are times you are dense. This is one of them.

I personally (as well as Rifneno) have been talking about quantum shielding for QUITE some time now whenever the citadel blowing up was brought up.

Hence why we arrived at the figure of billions of  tons of explosive power necessary to break the Citadel.

In short, you would need a force in excess of, basiaclly taking a moon sized object, and ramming it high speed into the Citadel, as in not enough to kill shep, MORE THAN ENOUGH TO ATOMIZE HIM SO THAT NOT EVEN HIS COMPONET MATERIALS REMAIN.

You must have misunderstood me, I totally agree that  there is no way Shep is on the Citadel and I was only bringing this up as more proof.

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

RMP _ wrote...

I'm all for the dream theory. I didn't see it on the first page, it's probably somewhere in this 2000 page thread, but did anyone note that the circle in the middle of the room that they lean on only comes up after opening the arms? It's something that might happen in a dream. And, why did the Catalyst boy bring Shepard, laying near death right in front of the console, up to that final area in the first place? He could have just left Shepard alone to die and eventually the Reapers would just win without the crucible firing.

Thx for noticing that rising circle! Yeah, we already made jokes about how the reapers just wanted Shep and Andy to be comfortable.



The Reaper Sleep Number Mattress--

 It' so comfortable, WE KNOW YOU'LL  FEEL THIS.

OMG if someone can make a meme with that it'll make my day.

Yeah, that right there is probably the funniest thing that I have ever said in this thread. My Sarcasm gets misinterpreted entirely too often.

Modifié par balance5050, 03 mai 2012 - 05:59 .

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

RMP _ wrote...

I'm all for the dream theory. I didn't see it on the first page, it's probably somewhere in this 2000 page thread, but did anyone note that the circle in the middle of the room that they lean on only comes up after opening the arms? It's something that might happen in a dream. And, why did the Catalyst boy bring Shepard, laying near death right in front of the console, up to that final area in the first place? He could have just left Shepard alone to die and eventually the Reapers would just win without the crucible firing.

Thx for noticing that rising circle! Yeah, we already made jokes about how the reapers just wanted Shep and Andy to be comfortable.



The Reaper Sleep Number Mattress--

 It' so comfortable, WE KNOW YOU'LL  FEEL THIS.

OMG if someone can make a meme with that it'll make my day.

Yeah, that right there is probably the funniest that I have ever said in this thread. My Sarcasm gets misinterpreted entirely too often.

Lucky for you my sarcasm detector is top of the line.

[NotAnotherDisplayName]

EpyonX3 wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

The Catalyst insists that synthetics will eventually kill organics if the Reapers don't stop them. But since we met Legion, the game try to show us that Geths are not bad guys and they would accept peace with organics. So, if the ends as we saw are true, why Shepard didn't argue nothing? Especially if we make peace betwen Quarians and Geths? He could destroy the childs arguments, as he does normally, but instead he just keep quiet...

Just because the Geth were peaceful, doesn't mean they are the ones to go crazy on organics. The maniac killer robots could be created by any other race like Humans. Ever wonder what will happen when Security Mechs get tweaked with AI's? Not all of them will be as nice as EDI.

Remember, the catalyst says that even if you destroy the reapers, The children of humanity will eventually create synthetics again and the chaos will return.

True, but the point being that it is not a sure thing that synthetics will rise to eat your face.  That's what the starkid is telling you, is that it is inevetable (sp?) that synthetics will try and kill all organics.  But Shepard has shown through his actions (in many people's games, anyhow) that it's not a sure thing.

[balance5050]

balance5050 wrote...

Wyatt Shepard wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Wyatt Shepard wrote...

So let me start by saying I actually dig Indoctrination Theory. I had a similar thought - "is this Reaper indoctrination? -" about 3/4 of the way through the ending, around the time you see Shepard having the bullet wound he inflicted on Anderson. And the fact that the annoying Star Child took the form of a kid who manifests Shepard's guilt and stress, and the reversal of the paragon and renegade options were a dead give aways that not everything we were seeing was as it appeared.

However, while parts of IT fit together well (like the weird, unlimited ammo super pistol that appears to be able to kill ANYTHING in a shot or two) there are parts I don't know fit together at all and sort of undermine the entire thing.

So my question is about particular thing that seems to be a big part of the theory - namely that Anderson bizarrely gets to the control room before Shepard after saying he "followed" Shepard up to the Citadel. The idea goes that he could not have possibly got the control room first because we only see one entrance and that being the case, how could Anderson get ahead of Shepard?

However, in a conversation with Bailey (and pls. forgive me if this has been addressed already) after the attempted Cerberus coupe, he tells us that once you get into the Citadel's "superstructure" you can pretty much get anywhere on the station. So is it not possible that we can take this at face value? That Anderson beamed up second, but was deposited in another place (He does say the walls are moving the station changing shape) and was, in fact, in the station superstructure, allowing him to get to the control room before Shepard. Would that not also explain how the IM got there without being seen by Shepard at all? He was creeping around in the superstructure....

meaning, I guess, that it really was Anderson and the IM and not just a manifestation of indoctrination working on Shepard's mind...thoughts?

My problem  is that there is no such thing as teleportation in the ME universe, when he goes up the conduit he effectively travels through layers of solid metal and whats more is he is flipped upside down in respect to Earth, his head is pointing straight down to Earth on the Crucible. 

Except there is. The Conduit from ME 1 is essentially teleportation. It sent a tank with three crew men inside froma  planet on the other side of the galaxy into the station. And the Mass Relays are essentially teleportation devices, instantly moving ships from one start system to the next. I took the "beam" in London to be no different from the Conduit.

That one connected to another conduit though, like all the relays, the conduit in ME1 was essenially a relay and it even looks like one:

 
 


The conduit in London looks nothing like this and just connects to some weird receiving area. Technology never seen before.

Reposting this from last night, The conduit in london is tech that we have never seen before. Give me some of that juicy feedback...

[MaximizedAction]

pirate1802 wrote...

...Anad finally we reach the year of my birth!

mine, too!

[waldstr18]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Here's the thing waldstr, I'm not a malicious person. You pretty much disappeared from this thread so I had no reason to continue my collection or pass my findings on to the moderators. I don't actually have any desire to see you banned. Your quotes painted a clear picture so I had hoped you either realized the reputation you have here was well earned and decided to stop, or didn't want to push your luck and possibly face the ban hammer.

Honestly, for me, a simple acknowledgment that your history on this thread constitutes trolling followed by renouncing any future plan to troll this thread would be enough to let it go.

Your decision sir

you got me all wrong. i want you to collect more of them. i actually got asked about the posts i made. luckily by then you had already collected some of them, so i could just give them the page number (1934). but thats by far not all of them, so instead of wasting your time coming up with even more ridiculous clues for the idt, you could collect all my posts and send them to me (or just post them in here again, your choice, sir). id be grateful. oh, i would also be interested if i could actually be banned for the things i wrote, cause as you already know, i dont see any of them as trolling. you guys are just way too sensitive about the delusion youve created.

anyways, since ive been declared fully healthy again, i no longer have the time to follow this thread, so you have to excuse me for not telling you how ridiculous i find all of your findings. well, ok, most of them. i promise, if i have a minute or two i will read a few posts and be probably amazed how far your imagination reaches, but to actually read all the pages? its just not possible at the moment. sorry.

[SubAstris]

SS2Dante wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...


Dream whispers, the crucible drum, TIms new powers, TIM telling you he "needs you to believe", the odd things that happen to your EMS, the bullet wound, both platforms that magically appear, Hacket magically knowing you're both alive AND on the citadel...

These are my responses, feel free to disagree
1 &2) I can't remember specific instances of these, care to provide link with timings where you think they are?
3) On the Cerberus base, there is a log that tells you that TIM has been fitted with implants.
4) Like most megalomaniacs, TIM wants you to believe because he thinks he is right.
5) I guess you are talking about Anderson dying and living, I don't really know how this could be used as evidence specifically for IT
6) By platforms that appear I guess you mean when Shep and Anderson sit down. I'm sure this is not to do with indoctrination and more to do with getting a nice scene of the two both looking at the view. Because after all, it does look nice, the same effect could not have been achieved if Anderson was flat on the floor.
7) Hackett sees the Citadel arms open. He knows that Shepard was on the team to get to the Citadel and he was their best chance. So when he opens, he assumes that Shepard is the one there.

1)Here (time linked). Whispers begin at the deep "booom" noise. They continue all the way to the end of the cutscene.
http://www.youtube.c...czhHtqgY#t=324s

2) In the link above you'll hear the drum beat the very second you first see TIM (it's like 10 seconds after where I linked).

3) Implants that let him control Anderson? 

4) The writers go out of their way to show that in ME3 TIM has lost  respect for Shepard. Odd that he needs validation when his goal is like 5 feet away and Shepard is paralysed.

5) The EMS boosts are in line with IT. In particular, if you convince TIM to fight indoctrination (cap himself) you only need 4000 EMS to "wake up". Works if he's a part of you, not so much in literal.

6) No it couldn't, but even a small animation of the platform being raised would have helped. Odd that they missed that. Also you didn't address the bullet wound?

7) But Hackett doesn't ask if Shep is there, he simply starts as if he knows. Even if he was going by who was missing he should have been calling for Anderson.

1) Ok thanks for the link, seen the video. Seems as though it was added there for atmosphere; the whispers are meant to show the effect of TIM's new powers on Shepard

2) My answer above

3) We have been shown that at the Cerberus Base, TIM is getting implants, presumably Reaper-tech, which give him new powers. This power is then demonstrated when he meets Shepard face-to-face. The question is, why put such a log in if IT is true?

4) ---
5) The EMS boosts are in line with IT in the sense that it is strange. They don't provide solid positive evidence for,  it and have already commented as to why I think putting too much emphasis on EMS might be a bad idea.
6) They could have included it, but who would want to have scene in one of the most touching moments of the entire trilogy focus on a platform being raised rather than on emotional content? Again it is an unnecessary thing for BW to do. And what about the bullet wound?
7) I think it would have been better if Hackett had said, "Is anyone there?" but they didn't. My thoughts is that BW believed it didn't really matter

Ok, a lot of this boils down to the inevitable truth behind all the debates, a lot of your answers say that Bioware simply didn't think much about what they were doing. You think this is likely, we do not. So um...yeah. Will try to avoid the ones that are like that, aside from the whispers one.

Taken literally, If the whispers are meant to show TIMS new powers/the indoctrination attempt by the Reapers through TIM then this implies a connection between the whispers and indoctrination. This implies a connection between the dreams and indoctrination, UNLESS (as I began with) you simply decide Bioware were lazy. I consider this unlikely, since it's very basic theming and audio design and they don't slip up like this anywhere else.

TIMS research is all stated to be about controlling Reapers/husks. Not humans with no  synthetic parts whatsoever.

Ok, the bullet wound. Here
http://www.youtube.c...czhHtqgY#t=468s

Shep shoots Anderson in the lower left stomach (I could go on about how Sheps reaction is very odd but anyway). 

And look. The second Anderson dies...
http://www.youtube.c...YwBsUgK4#t=518s

The camera makes a point to show us Shepard suddenly has the wound. Her hands are covered in blood. Shepard herself seems surprised. The whole framing of that shot is bizarre, and in IT is almost laughably obvious. Keep in mind also that Marauder Shields shot Shepard in the upper right shoulder (they made a specific animation to show this).

EDIT - snipped a bit and also, SubAstris, what's your take on the ending save information? The plotID thing?

Well I believe that IT holds BW to unbelievable levels of infalliabilty when it comes to plot which they haven't exactly shown before, esp with ME2. Yes, their characters are great, but the plot itself really came off the wheels after ME1 IMO. Most of the alternative answers for evidence put forward IT is very plausible because they take into account, much more than IT does, how games are actually designed and the limits on developers. Also, I have this impression that some IT theorists actually believe that everyone who disagrees with them only replies with saying "BW are lazy". I don't doubt they sometimes took the easier option (which is what all developers in all games do, in fact, all professionals in all professions do as well) but others can be attributed to coincidence, misinterpretation, and outright falsities and genuine mistakes etc

I believe that something like that was deliberate, the whispers were intentionally linked to TIM gaining power over Shepard using Reaper tech. Reaper tech is often associated with whispers and so it comes off as unsurprising.

True, however TIM has been studying indoc, he has implants for what purpose it is not explicitly stated, we have to go to the end to find out.

I have tried to manipulate the video to see any blood coming from one spot or the other, but can't find any. It is far from clear where the bullet actually hits. A case could be made either way. IMO it seems more logical that it hits his right- side because Anderson leans into that after being shot (you don't lean against your weaker side). But regardless, there is a 50-50 of it being hit either side, so it is far from conclusive.

When Anderson dies, if he is part of Shepard, why doesn't he himself get hurt aswell?

I know they did, but it is logical to assume that from Harbinger's beam he is hurt. He seems to be holding his left side the whole way through the entire final mission, so there's no wonder why there is a wound. Furthermore, the specific shot reminds us of Shepard's severe injuries, which become important a few seconds later when he passes out in front of the console; he is losing a lot of blood.

I'm not sure what you are getting at with your final point, "save information"?

[balance5050]

MaximizedAction wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

...Anad finally we reach the year of my birth!

mine, too!

You young whipper snappers!!! JK I'm only two years older. hehe

[SubAstris]

balance5050 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Casey Hudson -


 "As things progress in the high-level storyline, we’re constantly trying to do redirects. You think you win the war by doing one thing, and then you realize it’s something else."


"What we’re doing with Mass Effect 3 that’s a little bit different than what we’ve done before is exploring the idea of getting the player to understand and feel what Commander Shepard is experiencing versus just reacting to other characters."


"We end up exploring some spaces that maybe have never been done before. Because interactive storytelling is still kind of new, there are neat things to try. One of the things we’re trying in Mass Effect 3 is the idea that we can let you feel something that is part of that character’s experience versus strictly getting you to react to things that you see and experience. We’re trying to tell a little bit of the story Shepard would feel and seeing if the player feels that as well. "

http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=1 

Just reposting this Casey Hudson stuff, taken after the game went gold.

This is one of those things that only gets actually comprehensive with extra info in mind. In this case, IT.
But even with IT it still reads like PR-vagueness. It just seems to get less vague now.

Don't forget that this was taken in January so the fan backlash hasn't happened yet. He's not a PR guy persei so he genuinly is talking about the game right here. Don't forget that he is allegedly one of the two men that knew about the ending from the get-go.

Hudson is trying to sell the game, his job depends on it. But regardless, it is so hypothetical that you take his word and not others when it comes to providing evidence for or against IT

[SS2Dante]

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

The Catalyst insists that synthetics will eventually kill organics if the Reapers don't stop them. But since we met Legion, the game try to show us that Geths are not bad guys and they would accept peace with organics. So, if the ends as we saw are true, why Shepard didn't argue nothing? Especially if we make peace betwen Quarians and Geths? He could destroy the childs arguments, as he does normally, but instead he just keep quiet...

Just because the Geth were peaceful, doesn't mean they are the ones to go crazy on organics. The maniac killer robots could be created by any other race like Humans. Ever wonder what will happen when Security Mechs get tweaked with AI's? Not all of them will be as nice as EDI.

Remember, the catalyst says that even if you destroy the reapers, The children of humanity will eventually create synthetics again and the chaos will return.

Heyyy, Epyon. Haven't seen you around here recently

Did you catch the cubemap images being spotted in the game?

Hey dude. Yeah i've been pretty busy lately.

I have been popping in and out but haven't been participating much. There's not much else to say or dispute at this point.

Yes I say the images of the cubemaps spotted in the game. My response to that is that they forgot to take it out along with other cut content from game. The voices of Shepard telling his crew to leave were actually part of deleted scenes. It's possible that they had trees in the final room but removed them.

Cool. Just cos last I remember you'd found the cubemaps but there inclusion was still unknown.

[DJBare]

Created a comparison video to go with my echo's video, listen to this one first..

www.youtube.com/watch

Then this one...

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par DJBare, 03 mai 2012 - 06:11 .