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[G0thicRhino]

GBGriffin wrote...

FugitiveMind wrote...



Been drinking the kool aid since the beginning as well,

unfortunately if/when this does get announced, my reaction isn't going to be:

Good, this fixes things!

It's going to be:

Why am I waiting for this? Why the hell wasn't this on the original disc?

Agreed. 

After my joy dies down, I cant help but ask: "What. The . ****!? Who thought this would be a good idea!?"

Again, hallucination does not and SHOULD not excuse bad writing and storytelling.

I thought the same thing, but...

Maybe they want this storm of emotions to show how emotionally invested in the games people are? PR stunt? Possibly to let all the fans of the series have an equal chance at enjoying the ending? 
i.e. No spoilers for the ending anywhere. Release the ending everywhere at the same time.

I dunno, but I don't think they would ever end things as they are.

[Fre3dom]

Ok, I haven't read every page as I only saw this thread after 190+ pages but from reading the first page and general responses, I believe you may all be right and it would truly be epic if it is true. I understand the catalyst and the citadel being a hallucination but can somebody explain (sorry if this has already been asked/answered) how the Normandy/ relay fits in with this theory?

[lookingglassmind]

SandTrout wrote...

byne wrote...

While I agree that its 99% likely he was referring to Kai Leng, Leng was there the whole time, since he's the one who killed the scientists. Its not like Kai Leng just made it to the temple at that moment.

 That is an outstanding point that I hadn't thought about.

What's the range of the sensors on that thing, though?

A great point to consider, and makes me wonder. Even if its range of sensing was limited to a specific radius, how would it be able to tell that the cycle had Reaper presence?

[N3vDawg]

byne wrote...

vertibird1 wrote...

Silasqtx wrote...

Guys, please hear the very last part of this video:



The VI was giving away Prothean's intel on the Catalyst DIRECTLY TO SHEPARD, then simply said "Indoctrinated presence detected, activating security protocol"

I don't want to raise senseless hope, but it's pretty much telling, imo.

He is referring to Kai Leng

While I agree that its 99% likely he was referring to Kai Leng, Leng was there the whole time, since he's the one who killed the scientists. Its not like Kai Leng just made it to the temple at that moment.

Didn't the VI not note any reaper presence of Kai Leng after they used it? I'm assuming that function was removed by cerberus.

[lavosslayer]

Vyrii wrote...

tuzem2 wrote...

Look at that:
https://twitter.com/...286746629029889

Looks like they're refering more to future Mass Effect games, which there will be, not some DLC or patch to give us the real ending.

Actually there very likely will be more Mass Effect Games...just not with Commander Shepard as the PC

[foxlockbox]

lavosslayer wrote...

  I know this idea might sound weird and be drawing at straws and I know some people have mentioned ideas revolving around this concept before but hear me out:

I was thinking today (While I was working on making my awesome Jack Wallpaper): What if the retrieval of the real Shepard is the secret mission that the VS went on in the second game that Anderson couldn't talk about on the citadel in ME2 and we end up playing a clone of Commander Shepard  after (s)he wakes up from the Indoctrination sequence?

We know that Cerberus was actually successful in retrieving the remains but that doesn't mean that the Alliance couldn't have gotten their hands on a portion of them as well...

Clone's could easily have the memory imprints of the original and be totally oblivious to the truth of their origins.  If Commander Shepard wakes up and ends up dying due to too much trauma to his/her body or mind then (s)he could possibly be cloned to continue the fight...

Just a thought...doubt there is a lot to it but it piqued my interest and got the hamster running...

I don't see how this is any better to space magic.

[Illusive]

lavosslayer wrote...

  I know this idea might sound weird and be drawing at straws and I know some people have mentioned ideas revolving around this concept before but hear me out:

I was thinking today (While I was working on making my awesome Jack Wallpaper): What if the retrieval of the real Shepard is the secret mission that the VS went on in the second game that Anderson couldn't talk about on the citadel in ME2 and we end up playing a clone of Commander Shepard  after (s)he wakes up from the Indoctrination sequence?

We know that Cerberus was actually successful in retrieving the remains but that doesn't mean that the Alliance couldn't have gotten their hands on a portion of them as well...

Clone's could easily have the memory imprints of the original and be totally oblivious to the truth of their origins.  If Commander Shepard wakes up and ends up dying due to too much trauma to his/her body or mind then (s)he could possibly be cloned to continue the fight...

Just a thought...doubt there is a lot to it but it piqued my interest and got the hamster running...

I do remember a quote from Jennifer Hale (FemShep voice) that players would discover something shocking about Shepard's identity. Maybe it was cut from game? or maybe not ...

[tuzem2]

Vyrii wrote...

tuzem2 wrote...

Look at that:
https://twitter.com/...286746629029889

Looks like they're refering more to future Mass Effect games, which there will be, not some DLC or patch to give us the real ending.

A guy could still hope

Modifié par tuzem2, 12 mars 2012 - 10:09 .

[Omega Scythe]

MaroonMoore93 wrote...

More news from the Twitter front!

Zach Naizer -
@masseffect Any idea when the debree on earth around the n7 armor is going to be removed?

Mass Effect-
@alaggyhost We have no ETA at this time

No.  No no no.  Nooooooo way.

That.....that can't be true.  I cannot let myself believe that we actually got it right.

Deeeeep breaths.  

........holy ****.  If we were right all along.......

........there are no words.  My brain cannot compute something like this.  Too much insane gleeful prancing and screaming would occur.

[Evindell]

Nice article about fan backlash: robotgeek.co.uk/2012/03/12/editorial-the-mass-effect-3-backlash/

The author of the article above also links to a different article on Forbes. The Forbes article was almost as nonsensical as the endings. Apparently we're all upset because we're homophobes <_<

[lavosslayer]

foxlockbox wrote...

lavosslayer wrote...

  I know this idea might sound weird and be drawing at straws and I know some people have mentioned ideas revolving around this concept before but hear me out:

I was thinking today (While I was working on making my awesome Jack Wallpaper): What if the retrieval of the real Shepard is the secret mission that the VS went on in the second game that Anderson couldn't talk about on the citadel in ME2 and we end up playing a clone of Commander Shepard  after (s)he wakes up from the Indoctrination sequence?

We know that Cerberus was actually successful in retrieving the remains but that doesn't mean that the Alliance couldn't have gotten their hands on a portion of them as well...

Clone's could easily have the memory imprints of the original and be totally oblivious to the truth of their origins.  If Commander Shepard wakes up and ends up dying due to too much trauma to his/her body or mind then (s)he could possibly be cloned to continue the fight...

Just a thought...doubt there is a lot to it but it piqued my interest and got the hamster running...

I don't see how this is any better to space magic.

I dunno maybe because at least this can be explained (even if loosly) while space magic is...well...magic...

[FrostByte-GER]

Another proof:
Zach Naizer ‏ @ALaggyHost
@masseffect Any idea when the debree on earth around the n7 armor is going to be removed?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@alaggyhost We have no ETA at this time

We are still waiting....

[LenabotSE]

GamerMixZ
@masseffect so providing we break indoctrination and survive will the real fight with Harbinger begin?

masseffect
We smell trickery

[Stealthy Cake]

Robert De Leon‏@
@masseffect so providing we break indoctrination and survive will the real fight with Harbinger begin?

Mass Effect‏@masseffect

@gamermixz We smell trickery

lol

[smah]

So there's been a lot of speculation about the 1M1 in the Citadel, and I'm really intrigued by that.

I don't know how to post pics, but if you watch this



at about 10 seconds you can see the 1m1 again, and again, it's reversed. Notice that' it's on the LEFT side, the side of the control option with the supposedly Paragon and TIM option. At 4:08 roughly, we see the 1m1 again, but this time, it's the not mirrored. Notice that it's on the RIGHT side with the supposedly Renegade and Anderson option.

I'm totally digging the indoctrination theory even though I doubt Bioware actually went that route. Nonetheless, it's pretty interesting.

PS I totally feel like a conspiracy nut right now =P

[paleobones]

The single reason I am willing to accept that its a hallucination is the Normandy scene. Kaidan and Garrus walked out of the Normandy and both of them were with me on earth. That can not be.

As much as I loath "it was all a dream" stories I really hope it was in this case.

[Kyzee]

I haven't read everything here, so forgive me if this is a repeated question, but how would seeing the Normandy crash on the unknown planet plus the Grandfather and Grandchild post-credits sequence fit in with this theory?

On the other hand: if this theory is true, I will actually forgive BioWare for devastating me as they did and respect them immensely. It would be an ingenious move.

[FugitiveMind]

G0thicRhino wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

FugitiveMind wrote...



Been drinking the kool aid since the beginning as well,

unfortunately if/when this does get announced, my reaction isn't going to be:

Good, this fixes things!

It's going to be:

Why am I waiting for this? Why the hell wasn't this on the original disc?

Agreed. 

After my joy dies down, I cant help but ask: "What. The . ****!? Who thought this would be a good idea!?"

Again, hallucination does not and SHOULD not excuse bad writing and storytelling.

I thought the same thing, but...

Maybe they want this storm of emotions to show how emotionally invested in the games people are? PR stunt? Possibly to let all the fans of the series have an equal chance at enjoying the ending? 
i.e. No spoilers for the ending anywhere. Release the ending everywhere at the same time.

I dunno, but I don't think they would ever end things as they are.

Show the effect of emotional investment?

I quote the ghostbusters:
Dr. Peter Venkman: I'm studying the effects of negative reinforcement on ESP ability.
Male Student: The effect? I'll tell you what the effect is, it's pissing me off!

[AndyB]

Omega Scythe wrote...

MaroonMoore93 wrote...

More news from the Twitter front!

Zach Naizer -
@masseffect Any idea when the debree on earth around the n7 armor is going to be removed?

Mass Effect-
@alaggyhost We have no ETA at this time

No.  No no no.  Nooooooo way.

That.....that can't be true.  I cannot let myself believe that we actually got it right.

Deeeeep breaths.  

........holy ****.  If we were right all along.......

........there are no words.  My brain cannot compute something like this.  Too much insane gleeful prancing and screaming would occur.

What does this mean?

[Tiamatshade]

This post gives me a glimmer of hope.

With all the presentation spectacles leading up to actually "taking back earth", I can only hope that the dreamy sequence of events on the Return to the Citadel was wholly intentional.

Maybe, hopefully, Bioware's writers are reading your post and smiling ever so slightly. Knowingly.
Thank you for changing my mind a little.

[njfluffy19]

Kings19 wrote...

lavosslayer wrote...

  I know this idea might sound weird and be drawing at straws and I know some people have mentioned ideas revolving around this concept before but hear me out:

I was thinking today (While I was working on making my awesome Jack Wallpaper): What if the retrieval of the real Shepard is the secret mission that the VS went on in the second game that Anderson couldn't talk about on the citadel in ME2 and we end up playing a clone of Commander Shepard  after (s)he wakes up from the Indoctrination sequence?

We know that Cerberus was actually successful in retrieving the remains but that doesn't mean that the Alliance couldn't have gotten their hands on a portion of them as well...

Clone's could easily have the memory imprints of the original and be totally oblivious to the truth of their origins.  If Commander Shepard wakes up and ends up dying due to too much trauma to his/her body or mind then (s)he could possibly be cloned to continue the fight...

Just a thought...doubt there is a lot to it but it piqued my interest and got the hamster running...

I do remember a quote from Jennifer Hale (FemShep voice) that players would discover something shocking about Shepard's identity. Maybe it was cut from game? or maybe not ...

Indoctrination!

[rockman0]

I can't seem to get back into my game since picking the "destroy" ending. All I get is a glitch version of the cutscene where shepard destroys the power conduit.

[Vyrii]

N3vDawg wrote...

byne wrote...

vertibird1 wrote...

Silasqtx wrote...

Guys, please hear the very last part of this video:



The VI was giving away Prothean's intel on the Catalyst DIRECTLY TO SHEPARD, then simply said "Indoctrinated presence detected, activating security protocol"

I don't want to raise senseless hope, but it's pretty much telling, imo.

He is referring to Kai Leng

While I agree that its 99% likely he was referring to Kai Leng, Leng was there the whole time, since he's the one who killed the scientists. Its not like Kai Leng just made it to the temple at that moment.

Didn't the VI not note any reaper presence of Kai Leng after they used it? I'm assuming that function was removed by cerberus.

The VI states that the "Security protocols were removed by Cerberus"
If Shepard is indoctrinated at that point, the VI wouldn't be able to tell them.

[eoinnx03]

Can someone please PM me explaining this theory. I'm extremly late in this thread and all I see is arguing. PLEASE! I want to feel good about them, and Ive felt like crap for 4 days now.

[BadlyBrowned]

Kyzee wrote...

On the other hand: if this theory is true, I will actually forgive BioWare for devastating me as they did and respect them immensely. It would be an ingenious move.

It would be quite the ballsy move, and frankly, I would begrudgingly pay for DLC that expands on it.