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[MegumiAzusa]

HellishFiend wrote...

This image disproves space magic.

[Rosewind]

Lex0r

[Microwave]

So I've been following this thread for awhile then stopped a couple weeks ago, and I think that regardless of what BW has planned for the extended ending I think I still prefer the original thought process behind the IT. It really paints a picture of Shepard that I think I like. i mean if Shepard is fighting an indoctrination attempt at the end of the game, then whether he dies or not is inconsequential. I'll even go so far as to say that whether the universe is put right in the end is inconsequential. The story of ME is all about Shepard. So to see the end to the series in this light regardless of whether or not there is anything after for Shepard is a powerful well put together end to an extraordinary series that I hope will stand the test of time. I'm not even going to try to contribute anything enlightening to the topic because I don't think anything can be said that hasn't already.

Suffice it to say that to play through the three games over five years and end it with this theory in mind, regardless of what the IT haters want to say, I saw Shepard fight on a slew of both physical and metaphysical battlegrounds versus the reapers. And throughout the series, my shepard kept his dignity and his cool under pressure. He rejected the reapers at every turn and chose the destroy ending. It was a final act of defiance against an unbeatable and uncompromising enemy. One that you're not safe from even in your own mind.

Honestly, I don't care what an extended ending might entail anymore. An ending where my shepard rejects the reapers mind games that claimed Saren, TIM, Udina, etc... is good enough for me. My shepard never gave in and always held his ground. That's just how I choose to see it, and that is how I will always choose to see it. Seriously, it's poignant and beautiful and all that in this light.

I think I may be rambling now so I'll call it quits and go elsewhere, but I do hope that everyone sees that if shepard is dead in the end that makes it all the more powerful. He fought so hard against both the reapers physical attempts to best him and their more insidious attempts, and he won. Dead or not he won if the destroy option is chosen, breathe scene or not, He Won. He did more than some of the most powerful people(aliens included) in the universe could. He rejected the reapers mind games.

Just my opinion though, so keep thinking. A lot of intelligent stuff is coming from this thread. Thank you and sorry for rambling.

[HellishFiend]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

This image disproves space magic.

I suppose it does. 

[MegumiAzusa]

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

It seems to me like for the 'non-casual’ ME fans indoctrination should be nearly obvious in Control/Synthesis. Maybe, if I'd read the comics and books beforehand, a possibly indoctrinated Shepard might've crossed my mind without IT...thus avoiding all the unneccessary frustration.

Indeed. Being familiar with all of the ME canon certainly lends itself well to a natural suspicion of some kind of indoctrination process. 

Well, I was certainly suspicious of indoc. Not because I expected it from the first frame of ME3 on, but rather came indirectly after NOT having any in-game discussion about how the characters most dearest to Shep might be indoc.
It is mentioned ingame, but only the 'bad'/shady guys maybe being indoc.. But the 'good' guys are spared?
B*tch, please...

The closest we get to that is the VS (Ashley at least, not sure about Kaiden) briefly mentioning her concern over not knowing who could possibly be indoctrinated just before you have the chance to recruit him/her to the Normandy. It does seem strangely convenient that the only one to voice concern over it is the one who was not present with Shepard in any way during ME2 and has probably had the least amount of contact with Reaper tech among anyone in the crew (except for perhaps Vega). 

Then you think about it: Ashleys lines in the room with the human proto Reaper at the Cerberus base is more in line with Liara while Tali still sounds natural.

[Dwailing]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

It seems to me like for the 'non-casual’ ME fans indoctrination should be nearly obvious in Control/Synthesis. Maybe, if I'd read the comics and books beforehand, a possibly indoctrinated Shepard might've crossed my mind without IT...thus avoiding all the unneccessary frustration.

Indeed. Being familiar with all of the ME canon certainly lends itself well to a natural suspicion of some kind of indoctrination process. 

Well, I was certainly suspicious of indoc. Not because I expected it from the first frame of ME3 on, but rather came indirectly after NOT having any in-game discussion about how the characters most dearest to Shep might be indoc.
It is mentioned ingame, but only the 'bad'/shady guys maybe being indoc.. But the 'good' guys are spared?
B*tch, please...

The closest we get to that is the VS (Ashley at least, not sure about Kaiden) briefly mentioning her concern over not knowing who could possibly be indoctrinated just before you have the chance to recruit him/her to the Normandy. It does seem strangely convenient that the only one to voice concern over it is the one who was not present with Shepard in any way during ME2 and has probably had the least amount of contact with Reaper tech among anyone in the crew (except for perhaps Vega). 

Then you think about it: Ashleys lines in the room with the human proto Reaper at the Cerberus base is more in line with Liara while Tali still sounds natural.

Uh, maybe Quarians are more resistant to indoctrination?  I mean, we haven't seen any indoctrinated Quarians.

Modifié par Dwailing, 05 mai 2012 - 09:20 .

[HellishFiend]

Microwave wrote...

So I've been following this thread for awhile then stopped a couple weeks ago, and I think that regardless of what BW has planned for the extended ending I think I still prefer the original thought process behind the IT. It really paints a picture of Shepard that I think I like. i mean if Shepard is fighting an indoctrination attempt at the end of the game, then whether he dies or not is inconsequential. I'll even go so far as to say that whether the universe is put right in the end is inconsequential. The story of ME is all about Shepard. So to see the end to the series in this light regardless of whether or not there is anything after for Shepard is a powerful well put together end to an extraordinary series that I hope will stand the test of time. I'm not even going to try to contribute anything enlightening to the topic because I don't think anything can be said that hasn't already.

Suffice it to say that to play through the three games over five years and end it with this theory in mind, regardless of what the IT haters want to say, I saw Shepard fight on a slew of both physical and metaphysical battlegrounds versus the reapers. And throughout the series, my shepard kept his dignity and his cool under pressure. He rejected the reapers at every turn and chose the destroy ending. It was a final act of defiance against an unbeatable and uncompromising enemy. One that you're not safe from even in your own mind.

Honestly, I don't care what an extended ending might entail anymore. An ending where my shepard rejects the reapers mind games that claimed Saren, TIM, Udina, etc... is good enough for me. My shepard never gave in and always held his ground. That's just how I choose to see it, and that is how I will always choose to see it. Seriously, it's poignant and beautiful and all that in this light.

I think I may be rambling now so I'll call it quits and go elsewhere, but I do hope that everyone sees that if shepard is dead in the end that makes it all the more powerful. He fought so hard against both the reapers physical attempts to best him and their more insidious attempts, and he won. Dead or not he won if the destroy option is chosen, breathe scene or not, He Won. He did more than some of the most powerful people(aliens included) in the universe could. He rejected the reapers mind games.

Just my opinion though, so keep thinking. A lot of intelligent stuff is coming from this thread. Thank you and sorry for rambling.

Your point is well made, but I have to disagree with the assertion that ME is all about Shepard. Quite the opposite in fact. "Shepard" is a literary device to give the player a perspective on the story.  The intention is for us to care about the galaxy and its inhabitants, not Shepard himself/herself. I'm sure opinions on this vary, since Shepard is definitely well-written enough to be cared about, however the majority of the playerbase cares far more about the fates of the squadmates and other important characters. Hence the outcry over the current ending as it stands. 

[MegumiAzusa]

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

It seems to me like for the 'non-casual’ ME fans indoctrination should be nearly obvious in Control/Synthesis. Maybe, if I'd read the comics and books beforehand, a possibly indoctrinated Shepard might've crossed my mind without IT...thus avoiding all the unneccessary frustration.

Indeed. Being familiar with all of the ME canon certainly lends itself well to a natural suspicion of some kind of indoctrination process. 

Well, I was certainly suspicious of indoc. Not because I expected it from the first frame of ME3 on, but rather came indirectly after NOT having any in-game discussion about how the characters most dearest to Shep might be indoc.
It is mentioned ingame, but only the 'bad'/shady guys maybe being indoc.. But the 'good' guys are spared?
B*tch, please...

The closest we get to that is the VS (Ashley at least, not sure about Kaiden) briefly mentioning her concern over not knowing who could possibly be indoctrinated just before you have the chance to recruit him/her to the Normandy. It does seem strangely convenient that the only one to voice concern over it is the one who was not present with Shepard in any way during ME2 and has probably had the least amount of contact with Reaper tech among anyone in the crew (except for perhaps Vega). 

Then you think about it: Ashleys lines in the room with the human proto Reaper at the Cerberus base is more in line with Liara while Tali still sounds natural.

Uh, maybe Quarians are more resistant to indoctrination?  I mean, we haven't seen any indoctrinated Quarians.

They also wear that suit that could "absorb" some of the signals.

[Dwailing]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

It seems to me like for the 'non-casual’ ME fans indoctrination should be nearly obvious in Control/Synthesis. Maybe, if I'd read the comics and books beforehand, a possibly indoctrinated Shepard might've crossed my mind without IT...thus avoiding all the unneccessary frustration.

Indeed. Being familiar with all of the ME canon certainly lends itself well to a natural suspicion of some kind of indoctrination process. 

Well, I was certainly suspicious of indoc. Not because I expected it from the first frame of ME3 on, but rather came indirectly after NOT having any in-game discussion about how the characters most dearest to Shep might be indoc.
It is mentioned ingame, but only the 'bad'/shady guys maybe being indoc.. But the 'good' guys are spared?
B*tch, please...

The closest we get to that is the VS (Ashley at least, not sure about Kaiden) briefly mentioning her concern over not knowing who could possibly be indoctrinated just before you have the chance to recruit him/her to the Normandy. It does seem strangely convenient that the only one to voice concern over it is the one who was not present with Shepard in any way during ME2 and has probably had the least amount of contact with Reaper tech among anyone in the crew (except for perhaps Vega). 

Then you think about it: Ashleys lines in the room with the human proto Reaper at the Cerberus base is more in line with Liara while Tali still sounds natural.

Uh, maybe Quarians are more resistant to indoctrination?  I mean, we haven't seen any indoctrinated Quarians.

They also wear that suit that could "absorb" some of the signals.

I had wondered about that.  However, I wasn't sure considering that Shepard spent how much of his time around Reapers in full armor?

[MegumiAzusa]

Dwailing wrote...

I had wondered about that.  However, I wasn't sure considering that Shepard spent how much of his time around Reapers in full armor?

The difference is Tali wears her Suit at any time, also it's a question of how much weight her implants have on that sort of thing. I wouldn't base anything meaningful on it, sure, I only mentioned the possibility.
I would have to check every squad mate, maybe record it and post it on YT too. Would be better to analyze.

Btw I always add people as "Secret Organization - Evil" :3

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 05 mai 2012 - 09:30 .

[Microwave]

HellishFiend wrote...

Your point is well made, but I have to disagree with the assertion that ME is all about Shepard. Quite the opposite in fact. "Shepard" is a literary device to give the player a perspective on the story.  The intention is for us to care about the galaxy and its inhabitants, not Shepard himself/herself. I'm sure opinions on this vary, since Shepard is definitely well-written enough to be cared about, however the majority of the playerbase cares far more about the fates of the squadmates and other important characters. Hence the outcry over the current ending as it stands. 

True, and I hate to say it, but I care more about Shepard than I do about Liara(my LI everytime), Wrex, Mordin and the genophage, Garrus, Tali, Legion and the geth/quarian war, hell even the reaper menace. I prefer to see it as a struggle of one man/woman against insurmountable odds and what not. Though, I don't want anyone to think that I think the current ending are complete in any way shape or form. Just providing my opinion on what we have.

[Dwailing]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I had wondered about that.  However, I wasn't sure considering that Shepard spent how much of his time around Reapers in full armor?

The difference is Tali wears her Suit at any time, also it's a question of how much weight her implants have on that sort of thing. I wouldn't base anything meaningful on it, sure, I only mentioned the possibility.
I would have to check every squad mate, maybe record it and post it on YT too. Would be better to analyze.

Btw I always add people as "Secret Organization - Evil" :3

So that's how I'm going to be listed, huh?  I like it.   With regards to Tali and indoctrination, I think it would be great if you could post each squadmate's dialogue from that scene.

Edit: Also, I just had a thought.  If we assume that Shepard was also exposed to a Reaper signal on the Normandy, then whether or not armor had any effect of the signal would be a moot point at least in that context since he does not wear armor on the Normandy.

Modifié par Dwailing, 05 mai 2012 - 09:34 .

[Baldsake]

War Diaz!!!

[Arian Dynas]

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I had wondered about that.  However, I wasn't sure considering that Shepard spent how much of his time around Reapers in full armor?

The difference is Tali wears her Suit at any time, also it's a question of how much weight her implants have on that sort of thing. I wouldn't base anything meaningful on it, sure, I only mentioned the possibility.
I would have to check every squad mate, maybe record it and post it on YT too. Would be better to analyze.

Btw I always add people as "Secret Organization - Evil" :3

So that's how I'm going to be listed, huh?  I like it.   With regards to Tali and indoctrination, I think it would be great if you could post each squadmate's dialogue from that scene.

Edit: Also, I just had a thought.  If we assume that Shepard was also exposed to a Reaper signal on the Normandy, then whether or not armor had any effect of the signal would be a moot point at least in that context since he does not wear armor on the Normandy.

So wait.. i'm probably coming in to the middle of this, but you two are debating if Tali is pure of indoctrination because of her suit?

If that's the case, remember, noise dampeners are a thing, and probably could easily filter out the background hum.

[jakenou]

Microwave wrote... I don't think anything can be said that hasn't already.

We dismiss this claim

He rejected the reapers at every turn and chose the destroy ending. It was a final act of defiance against an unbeatable and uncompromising enemy.

I chose synthesis (my first run), so boo for me/my Shepard because it was really unlike her to choose that... except the fact that she/I really like shiny technological stuff, and I liked EDI too much, ...and even before having a more solid grasp of IT, I didn't beleive Star Kid anyway... but it was primarily because I didn't have enough EMS to get the so-called "best" ending, and knew I wanted to play out all three choices anyway.

Thank you and sorry for rambling.

If ever there was a place to ramble, cordially and constructively that is, this would be the place to do it

HellishFiend wrote...

Your point is well made, but I have
to disagree with the assertion that ME is all about Shepard. Quite the
opposite in fact. "Shepard" is a literary device to give the player a
perspective on the story.  The intention is for us to care about the
galaxy and its inhabitants, not Shepard himself/herself. I'm sure
opinions on this vary, since Shepard is definitely well-written enough
to be cared about, however the majority of the playerbase cares far more
about the fates of the squadmates and other important characters. Hence
the outcry over the current ending as it stands. 

It is mainly about Shepard for me. It's Shepard's experience, perception, decisions and actions that make the story what it is. We see and feel this world through Shepard's eyes, and even though there are surely many other stories to tell in this world, this one is Shepard's. That's what makes the idea of IT so epic and groundbreaking - of course if it's true.

Modifié par jkthunder, 05 mai 2012 - 09:43 .

[Dwailing]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I had wondered about that.  However, I wasn't sure considering that Shepard spent how much of his time around Reapers in full armor?

The difference is Tali wears her Suit at any time, also it's a question of how much weight her implants have on that sort of thing. I wouldn't base anything meaningful on it, sure, I only mentioned the possibility.
I would have to check every squad mate, maybe record it and post it on YT too. Would be better to analyze.

Btw I always add people as "Secret Organization - Evil" :3

So that's how I'm going to be listed, huh?  I like it.   With regards to Tali and indoctrination, I think it would be great if you could post each squadmate's dialogue from that scene.

Edit: Also, I just had a thought.  If we assume that Shepard was also exposed to a Reaper signal on the Normandy, then whether or not armor had any effect of the signal would be a moot point at least in that context since he does not wear armor on the Normandy.

So wait.. i'm probably coming in to the middle of this, but you two are debating if Tali is pure of indoctrination because of her suit?

If that's the case, remember, noise dampeners are a thing, and probably could easily filter out the background hum.

Son of a.... you're right.  Indoctrination is caused by sound waves, so if Tali.... wow, this is big.

Edit: Here's the link to the page on Indoc on the ME wiki.  
http://masseffect.wi.../Indoctrination   You know, just in case anyone decides to say that Indoc isn't caused by sound waves. 

Modifié par Dwailing, 05 mai 2012 - 09:43 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I had wondered about that.  However, I wasn't sure considering that Shepard spent how much of his time around Reapers in full armor?

The difference is Tali wears her Suit at any time, also it's a question of how much weight her implants have on that sort of thing. I wouldn't base anything meaningful on it, sure, I only mentioned the possibility.
I would have to check every squad mate, maybe record it and post it on YT too. Would be better to analyze.

Btw I always add people as "Secret Organization - Evil" :3

So that's how I'm going to be listed, huh?  I like it.   With regards to Tali and indoctrination, I think it would be great if you could post each squadmate's dialogue from that scene.

Edit: Also, I just had a thought.  If we assume that Shepard was also exposed to a Reaper signal on the Normandy, then whether or not armor had any effect of the signal would be a moot point at least in that context since he does not wear armor on the Normandy.

So wait.. i'm probably coming in to the middle of this, but you two are debating if Tali is pure of indoctrination because of her suit?

If that's the case, remember, noise dampeners are a thing, and probably could easily filter out the background hum.

It might cancel out specific stuff, but a certain range is never canceled out as she needs to hear the hum of the engines.

[D.Sharrah]

To those that had questions regarding how IT could strengthen the "Saren/Shepard MIrror" theme...i don't think that it is possible to do simply, but I will try.

To this theme justice we have to look at its entire evolution. In ME 1 the game clearly sets up so that Shepard and Saren are rivals on a collision course. In fact many of Shepard's actions are in direct response to the allies that Saren is trying to bulid. Saren has a research base to study indoctrination and clone Krogans...Shepard blows it up. Saren leaves Geth littered through the galaxy to attempt to destroy any evidence to what he is doing - Shepard stops them and finds the evidence. This all comes down to a final confrontation where you are given the ability (whether paragon or renegade and have invested in the appropriate skills) to convince Saren that he is indoctrinated but that he can still fight the reapers...

In ME 2 you have a dual purpose, (in alot of ways stemming from the fact that it is the midle installment of a trilogy ) there is the self contained story of that chapter and the preparation for the final chapter. This can be seen in the fact that during you fight against the collector's you are given the choice to strengthen your position to be able to gain allies for the final fight against the Reapers. There are two very obvious choices that play a huge role and play directly into the theme being discussed. The first is a decison to cure the genophage, an act that could potentially strengthen an ally and your ability to negotiate for their aid. Do you remember that Saren was also working to create an army of Krogan? Coincidence, possible. But then you are giving the option to allow a Geth to join your squad and efforts to fight the Collectors/Reapers...a Geth that informs of you a split in their people - a split that has one side looking for their own future and one side siding with the Reapers. This Geth then asks for your help to stop the threat of those that would follow the Reapers, where ultimately you are again given a choice to potentially strengthen an ally and your position to negotiate for their aid. Can it be coincidence again that this ally just happens to be another that Saren himself recruited in his effort to have an army that would pave the way for the return of the reapers? By this point in ME 2 I was starting to see that Saren and Shepard were mirrors of each other - an interesting observational study on how two potentially divergent paths could lead to the same place.

Then we reach ME 3. How could this theme be strengthened? Is there any thing that Saren has faced that Shepard has not? They both were insanely talented soldiers that were recognized for those talents and recrutied to join the Spectres. They were both thrust into politically explosive situations with galactic implications. They both have recruited as allies the Krogan and the Geth. They both were exposed to reaper tech. But to this point, the major difference was that the Saren had succumbed to the dangers of being indoctrinated, while Shepard had shown no signs of it all. If we are to believe all of the information that is given to us in the lore (codex, etc.), then how can we so quickly dismiss the idea that Shepard (given the amount of contact that he has had with reaper tech) would not be subject to the same danger that Saren faced. In other words, thematically (given this mirror between the two) the fact that Shepard would face indoctrination at some point makes perfect sense.

So, if IT is true at the ending sequence of the game is Shepard's final breaking point where the Reapers finally put all of the effort in one last attempt to indoctrinate Shepard, the arc of the theme would be complete. Shepard would have done and faced everything that Saren had done and faced as well. Which if we look at the mirror as more of an example of Ying-Yang, then Shepard being able to somehow defeat the indoctrination attempt as the absolute best way to tie the theme together completely.

I hope that this explains a little more deeply, exactly what I meant when I said that IT would both be stregthened and supported (and conversely the opposite as well) by this theme.

[jakenou]

Dwailing wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

So wait.. i'm probably coming in to the middle of this, but you two are debating if Tali is pure of indoctrination because of her suit?

If that's the case, remember, noise dampeners are a thing, and probably could easily filter out the background hum.

Son of a.... you're right.  Indoctrination is caused by sound waves, so if Tali.... wow, this is big.

Edit: Here's the link to the page on Indoc on the ME wiki.  
http://masseffect.wi.../Indoctrination   You know, just in case anyone decides to say that Indoc isn't caused by sound waves. 

I love that there have been several different conversations going on here concurrently, but I'm just realizing how relavant they are to each other (re: discussing Liara's level of possible indoctrination alongside Tali's)

[Simon_Says]

That actually makes me wonder.

The Normandy's a huge hollow hunk of metal no? Shouldn't it be echoing like mad? It doesn't, so there's sound proofing.

So what's the deal with the hum if there's sound proofing...

Modifié par Simon_Says, 05 mai 2012 - 09:48 .

[HellishFiend]

 While we're on the subject, here is some information on Infrasonic sound (a known tool of reaper indoctrination).

One study has suggested that infrasound may cause feelings of awe or fear in humans. It was also suggested that since it is not consciously perceived, it can make people feel vaguely that supernatural events are taking place.[29]

This part is in regards to an experiment where a group of people was exposed to infrasonic noise without their knowing:

 The participants were not told which pieces included the low-level 17 Hz near-infrasonic tone. The presence of the tone resulted in a significant number (22%) of respondents reporting anxiety, uneasiness, extreme sorrow, nervous feelings of revulsion or fear, chills down the spine and feelings of pressure on the chest.[31][32] In presenting the evidence to British Association for the Advancement of Science, Professor Richard Wiseman said, "These results suggest that low frequency sound can cause people to have unusual experiences even though they cannot consciously detect infrasound. Some scientists have suggested that this level of sound may be present at some allegedly haunted sites and so cause people to have odd sensations that they attribute to a ghost—our findings support these ideas."[29]

Research by Vic Tandy, a lecturer at Coventry University, suggested that an infrasonic signal of 19 Hz might be responsible for some ghost sightings. Tandy was working late one night alone in a supposedly haunted laboratory at Warwick, when he felt very anxious and could detect a grey blob out of the corner of his eye. When Tandy turned to face the grey blob, there was nothing.

For the associated references, see the wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Infrasound

Modifié par HellishFiend, 05 mai 2012 - 09:49 .

[MegumiAzusa]

jkthunder wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

So wait.. i'm probably coming in to the middle of this, but you two are debating if Tali is pure of indoctrination because of her suit?

If that's the case, remember, noise dampeners are a thing, and probably could easily filter out the background hum.

Son of a.... you're right.  Indoctrination is caused by sound waves, so if Tali.... wow, this is big.

Edit: Here's the link to the page on Indoc on the ME wiki.  
http://masseffect.wi.../Indoctrination   You know, just in case anyone decides to say that Indoc isn't caused by sound waves. 

I love that there have been several different conversations going on here concurrently, but I'm just realizing how relavant they are to each other (re: discussing Liara's level of possible indoctrination alongside Tali's)

I thought they were the same
At least I had both of them in one post and made a connection

[Big Bad]

OT - I think I'm going to replay the entire series. I've only ever played as a soldier, vanguard and adept. Anybody have any recommendations for what my next class should be?

[Dwailing]

Big Bad wrote...

OT - I think I'm going to replay the entire series. I've only ever played as a soldier, vanguard and adept. Anybody have any recommendations for what my next class should be?

I've played an infiltrator repeatedly, and I've loved it.

[jakenou]

Dwailing wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

OT - I think I'm going to replay the entire series. I've only ever played as a soldier, vanguard and adept. Anybody have any recommendations for what my next class should be?

I've played an infiltrator repeatedly, and I've loved it.

Ditto that. I'm lost without an array of the highest level sniper rifles :happy: