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Simon_Says wrote...

byne wrote...

Which promotion was the Indra from again? I dont have that one.


Alienware giveaway. Grab a key quickly. PC version only. :(


Sorry dude. If it's any consolation, I'm sure it'll be available for sale sometime.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

byne wrote...

Which promotion was the Indra from again? I dont have that one.


Alienware giveaway. Grab a key quickly. PC version only. :(


Sorry dude. If it's any consolation, I'm sure it'll be available for sale sometime.

 

I'm just waiting for the AT-12 Raider to be made available.  It looks pretty awesome.

Edit: I preordered from GameStop, so my reward was the Valkyrie and the Defender armor.  I love them both, don't get me wrong, but I would still like to be able to have the Raider at some point.

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Hmm, playing through my file with Kaidan instead of Ashley.

Why doesnt Kaidan get a shirt in the hospital?

Kaidan should either have a shirt or Ash should be topless.

I am fine with either one of these two options, BioWare. Make it happen.

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byne wrote...

Hmm, playing through my file with Kaidan instead of Ashley.

Why doesnt Kaidan get a shirt in the hospital?

Kaidan should either have a shirt or Ash should be topless.

I am fine with either one of these two options, BioWare. Make it happen.


Uh, I would prefer the second, if it isn't too much to ask, Bioware. ;)  Also, please do SOMETHING about the Traynor shower scene.  Serriously, who takes a shower in her underwear?  That's just stupid.

Edit: @Byne: Just be ready to not hear any dialogue with Ken and Gabby.  A stupid bug ties their dialogue to your approval level with Ashley, so unless you can use a save editor on your Xbox to adjust your approval level with Ashley, you should be ready for silence whenever you go down there.  And yes, I am refering to Ashley's approval level.  It has absolutely nothing to do with Kaidan's.

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Dwailing wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

byne wrote...

Which promotion was the Indra from again? I dont have that one.


Alienware giveaway. Grab a key quickly. PC version only. :(


Sorry dude. If it's any consolation, I'm sure it'll be available for sale sometime.

 

I'm just waiting for the AT-12 Raider to be made available.  It looks pretty awesome.

Edit: I preordered from GameStop, so my reward was the Valkyrie and the Defender armor.  I love them both, don't get me wrong, but I would still like to be able to have the Raider at some point.


I wish you could change the colors on the Defender armor.

I mean, its just the human soldier/vanguard armor from multiplayer with a different helmet, shouldnt be hard to implement the ability to change its color

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byne wrote...

2) The prosthetics become visible if you're
renegade, remember? And the pattern of the eyes is upside down compared
to the control/synthesis eyes.


Oh, I didn't know that. Interesting...


Dwailing wrote...
Well, with regards to 2, I think that the indoctrinated eyes are more symbolic than literal.  Remember, this is a dream/vision/hallucination, just about everything is symbolic.


Thanks, that actually makes a lot of sense.

#51682
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 About that video:

 

I don't think that Liara's dialogue shows some sign of indoctrination. She just says, "if could have saved Thessia, I don't know..."

In fact, if you didn't destroy the Collector's Base, you tought the same way TIM. 

You know saving the base is what the Reapers would have wanted and why you only get the choice of Control with low EMS?

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Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

Hmm, playing through my file with Kaidan instead of Ashley.

Why doesnt Kaidan get a shirt in the hospital?

Kaidan should either have a shirt or Ash should be topless.

I am fine with either one of these two options, BioWare. Make it happen.


Uh, I would prefer the second, if it isn't too much to ask, Bioware. ;)  Also, please do SOMETHING about the Traynor shower scene.  Serriously, who takes a shower in her underwear?  That's just stupid.

They want do anything they want to keep their artistic integrity 

#51684
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byne wrote...

polor89 wrote...

byne wrote...


Liara: "I spent two years mourning you, so if we're going to try this, I need to know you're always coming back."

I made her a promise. I keep my promises.

There is a GREAT possibility that you are going to break this one:?


Nope. 

Even taking the endings at face value, both Liara and I lived. Shep will find her.

I dont make a girl a promise if I know I cant keep it.


Just another reason for Bioware to go through with the Indoctrination Theory :)

#51685
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

 About that video:

 

I don't think that Liara's dialogue shows some sign of indoctrination. She just says, "if could have saved Thessia, I don't know..."

In fact, if you didn't destroy the Collector's Base, you tought the same way TIM. 

You know saving the base is what the Reapers would have wanted and why you only get the choice of Control with low EMS?




Proof of this?

#51686
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

 About that video:

 

I don't think that Liara's dialogue shows some sign of indoctrination. She just says, "if could have saved Thessia, I don't know..."

In fact, if you didn't destroy the Collector's Base, you tought the same way TIM. 

You know saving the base is what the Reapers would have wanted and why you only get the choice of Control with low EMS?


Thats one of the main things I find to be odd. People against IT always claim that if your EMS is low and you saved the base, then you have no choice but to pick control and be indoctrinated.

My main question about that though, is if we take the endings at face value, why does godchild alter the choices he gives you based on if you saved the Collector base or not? Why would he even care?

Only thing I can even think of for the reasoning is that if you save the base, a Reaper brain is incorporated into the Crucible instead of a heart (why the Crucible engineers would incorporate body parts from a dead Reaper at all, I still dont freakin understand but thats beside the point), and it wants to force you to pick the most beneficial option for the Reapers.

#51687
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Arian Dynas wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...
*snip*
Don't play "what facts" with me, missy!  The Facts!  They are the Proof!


You mind explaining for us... PROOF OF WHAT?!?!?!


I said it all in my first post!  The one you cut out!

#51688
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byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

marcelo_sdk wrote...

 About that video:

 

I don't think that Liara's dialogue shows some sign of indoctrination. She just says, "if could have saved Thessia, I don't know..."

In fact, if you didn't destroy the Collector's Base, you tought the same way TIM. 

You know saving the base is what the Reapers would have wanted and why you only get the choice of Control with low EMS?


Thats one of the main things I find to be odd. People against IT always claim that if your EMS is low and you saved the base, then you have no choice but to pick control and be indoctrinated.

My main question about that though, is if we take the endings at face value, why does godchild alter the choices he gives you based on if you saved the Collector base or not? Why would he even care?

Only thing I can even think of for the reasoning is that if you save the base, a Reaper brain is incorporated into the Crucible instead of a heart (why the Crucible engineers would incorporate body parts from a dead Reaper at all, I still dont freakin understand but thats beside the point), and it wants to force you to pick the most beneficial option for the Reapers.

At that point your mindset would be the same as TIMs, you think you can use the Reapers. That is why they can just as easily indoctrinate you.

For the squadmate thing: Garrus and Tali done, 4 to go.
Though I can only check Ash, don't have a save with Kaidan living.

#51689
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Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

So, speaking of snipers, what is your favorite sniper rifle in ME3?

I just finished my infiltrator playthrough a couple of days ago, and was really not liking the class until I got my Javelin. Javelin with armor piercing mod as well as armor piercing ammo as my bonus power was pretty insane. I didnt even have to wait for enemies to leave cover, just shot em through walls.


Well, I used to stand by the Widow as my favorite sniper rifle, but I just bought the Black Widow and, well, it's a darn fine rifle.



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lex0r11 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

So, speaking of snipers, what is your favorite sniper rifle in ME3?

I just finished my infiltrator playthrough a couple of days ago, and was really not liking the class until I got my Javelin. Javelin with armor piercing mod as well as armor piercing ammo as my bonus power was pretty insane. I didnt even have to wait for enemies to leave cover, just shot em through walls.


Well, I used to stand by the Widow as my favorite sniper rifle, but I just bought the Black Widow and, well, it's a darn fine rifle.



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No need for big guns if you've got biotics :P

#51691
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Simon_Says wrote...

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Which promotion was the Indra from again? I dont have that one.


Alienware giveaway. Grab a key quickly. PC version only. :(



Got it! :)

#51692
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Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

Hmm, playing through my file with Kaidan instead of Ashley.

Why doesnt Kaidan get a shirt in the hospital?

Kaidan should either have a shirt or Ash should be topless.

I am fine with either one of these two options, BioWare. Make it happen.


Uh, I would prefer the second, if it isn't too much to ask, Bioware. ;)  Also, please do SOMETHING about the Traynor shower scene.  Serriously, who takes a shower in her underwear?  That's just stupid.

Edit: @Byne: Just be ready to not hear any dialogue with Ken and Gabby.  A stupid bug ties their dialogue to your approval level with Ashley, so unless you can use a save editor on your Xbox to adjust your approval level with Ashley, you should be ready for silence whenever you go down there.  And yes, I am refering to Ashley's approval level.  It has absolutely nothing to do with Kaidan's.

NO actually if you play ME3 on a PC with kaidan you can fix that bug like i did its simple 

#51693
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nicethugbert wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...
*snip*
Don't play "what facts" with me, missy!  The Facts!  They are the Proof!


You mind explaining for us... PROOF OF WHAT?!?!?!


I said it all in my first post!  The one you cut out!


Ok. Now I'm just labeling you a rambling nutjob. Good day.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

No need for big guns if you've got biotics :P


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Only gun I need.

That combined with biotic charge and nova, and theres nothing I can't take down.

Modifié par byne, 05 mai 2012 - 10:52 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

So, speaking of snipers, what is your favorite sniper rifle in ME3?

I just finished my infiltrator playthrough a couple of days ago, and was really not liking the class until I got my Javelin. Javelin with armor piercing mod as well as armor piercing ammo as my bonus power was pretty insane. I didnt even have to wait for enemies to leave cover, just shot em through walls.


Well, I used to stand by the Widow as my favorite sniper rifle, but I just bought the Black Widow and, well, it's a darn fine rifle.



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No need for big guns if you've got biotics :P



No need for Biotics if you've got the Wraith or paladin! :P

Modifié par estebanus, 05 mai 2012 - 10:53 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

No need for big guns if you've got biotics :P




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byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

No need for big guns if you've got biotics :P


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Only gun I need.

That combined with biotic charge and nova, and theres nothing I can't take down.



The Wraith is badass!:P

#51698
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estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

No need for big guns if you've got biotics :P


*snip*

Only gun I need.

That combined with biotic charge and nova, and theres nothing I can't take down.



The Wraith is badass!:P


It is the only gun that doubles as bling.

Its pretty awesome.

#51699
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You actually need nothing but a Predator when choosing Narrative, it's so easy it isn't even funny anymore.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

You actually need nothing but a Predator when choosing Narrative, it's so easy it isn't even funny anymore.


You wrote earlier that enemies die with one shot.
Now, I'd play that mode, if you also would die with one hit. That'd be the 'simulation' mode, or CoD in the good ol days on hard.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 05 mai 2012 - 11:03 .