57139 réponses à ce sujet

[lil_89]

Um, guys, has anyone else noticed that in some cases there is only ONE choise?? At the end, the godchild ONLY gives shep one option... the destroy one.
look at this vid:www.youtube.com/watch

When and why does this happen?? I had all the three choices explained to me + the whole "most of your technology will be destroyed", while this Shep + other vids i found only have the one.. What the hell`?

Modifié par lil_89, 12 mars 2012 - 10:36 .

[tuzem2]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

The_ilest wrote...

so captain anderson and the illusive man are still alive. seems really stupid.

Maybe not. TIM might be, but Anderson might have died (wasn't he running down the hill with you?). 

Anyway, as I've said before, I don't play that many PC games (only one I pop in is Civ V) so excuse this question if stupid, but I've heard that the required install size for ME3 is missing literal gigs to what you actual put on your drive. This has led aome evidence to the "it was on the disc the whole time to be unlocked later" theory. 

But, I guess my question is: is this common at all. What I mean is this, is it common for games to be Gigs smaller in size than the required install size?

Yeah, it's normal - they want more space to be able to function faster and for saved games as well.

[iwillkillfortali]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

The_ilest wrote...

so captain anderson and the illusive man are still alive. seems really stupid.

Maybe not. TIM might be, but Anderson might have died (wasn't he running down the hill with you?). 

Anyway, as I've said before, I don't play that many PC games (only one I pop in is Civ V) so excuse this question if stupid, but I've heard that the required install size for ME3 is missing literal gigs to what you actual put on your drive. This has led aome evidence to the "it was on the disc the whole time to be unlocked later" theory. 

But, I guess my question is: is this common at all. What I mean is this, is it common for games to be Gigs smaller in size than the required install size?

I think you are right because the space requirements are 15 gb while on my pc the installation folder is 10 gb.

[lookingglassmind]

Vyrii wrote...

It's a long shot, but also remember that Liara said that the VI thinks you're Prothean when you first encounter it on Thessia.  Obviously I have no proof with canon dialouge but it could be that since the VI sees you as Prothean the security protocols are overridden.  I don't know, just throwing stuff around.

Hey, good point.

[Gamingtrek12025]

Been watching this for the past day or so and this seems to
be the truth and has me REALLY excited to see what happens in the next few
weeks in regards to Bioware[/i] announcements.

Also to support the renegade discussion I didn’t have my Mass Effect saves (360
change) so I had to do the default decision Shepard and it seems that he makes
more renegade choices over paragon (Wrex, Rachni, Legion, original council,
choosing Udina from the start etc) which might have been their own hinty
version of the end. REALLY big stretch but figured i would point it out regardless.

I also remember reading somewhere that they planned the ending of the game from
the start of the series so I really want to replay the older games for a save
file and to see any really minor hints along the way of him being slowly indoctrinated.

If they do pull this off, I think it will be one of the greatest endings in a game along with one of the biggest messing with the fans of a game franchise since Mario. It will also be really cool to say later that you were one of the original completers of Mass Effect 3 .

Edit: Copy-paste fail ><

Modifié par Gamingtrek12025, 12 mars 2012 - 10:40 .

[Bigdoser]

PrivateFrost wrote...

But if you need to choose to "Destroy" to , let's say, continue Shepard's story, isn't that kind of a douche move with Renegade players, or the people who chose Synthesis?

Please don't lump all renegade players together I went for destroy as renegade shep says to TIM "I am going to send the reapers straight to hell!" So I went straight for destory cause personally i think the catalyst is full of ****. 

[krystalevenstar]

PrivateFrost wrote...

But if you need to choose to "Destroy" to , let's say, continue Shepard's story, isn't that kind of a douche move with Renegade players, or the people who chose Synthesis?

Not particularly since even if you played a Renegade, in regards to the story, you've still been persuing the same goal of destroying the reapers. The Renegade simply doesn't care what ends they have to go to, to achieve those means.

Synthesize or Control are both options which allow The Reapers to survive. Destroy is the only one where you finish what you set out to do.

[TomY90]

lavosslayer wrote...

The VI didn't have its protocols removed until it was on the Cerberus base...on Thessia it was still active...however I am still inclined to go with the idea that with it being old and with the info Vigil gaves us about the Prothean understanding of Indoctrination, that the VI is an unreliable source of information when it comes to detecting Indoctrination.

Also I would add...how could a VI know anyway? The only concept I could think of for it to be able to know is that it can scan the Reapers attempts at indoctrination by the infrasonic emissions they put out...but even then the individuals don't put that out...the reapers themselves do...so was it just detecting the Reapers on the planet as they were emitting the infrasonic radiation while detroying it? Seems likely to me...

In ME1 Vigil knew you weren't indoctrination and said you haven't been indoctrinated unlike the other person who passed earlier.

I am inclined to think Shepard has not been indoctrinated because in ME1 Saren did say that the force exumed onto the host the less useful they become (i.e. the amount of force required to control shepard would have made shepard pretty much brain dead)

and Javik did say he had to kill all of his squad because of them becoming indoctrinated (which none of Shepard's friends have been indoctrinated from what we can tell) and hunted him down. Considering Javik is not indoctrinated when he has had the most contact out of anyone in Mass Effect. I doubt Shepard has reached that point.

[themidz]

lil_89 wrote...

Um, guys, has anyone else noticed that in some cases there is only ONE choise?? At the end, the godchild ONLY gives shep one option... the destroy one.
look at this vid:www.youtube.com/watch

When and why does this happen?? I had all the three choices explained to me + the whole "most of your technology will be destroyed", while this Shep + other vids i found only have the one.. What the hell`?

its because of low war assets i think..

[Dougremer]

Hi Guys,

This thread just saved my brain. This is, I don't know, brilliant?
I played the game 4 days in a row, I was happy, sad, angry and often felt being a part of the story. I hated a few things and loved others. I got upset when they took Mordin and Legion away from me, I shed a tear a few times as well. But I forced myself to play on "It's just a game".
I used to follow the paragon choices, but the more I played the angrier I got at those freakin Cerberus. I started to hate them for taking things away from me and I started to choose more renegade. I told myself if I see the Illusive man again I would just kill him, even if he begged for his life. So it wasn't hard to do the renegade execution of Lang, it felt good.

But, then the ending came along, I was so focused on the task "Destroy every freakin REAPER!". I fought with my squad, I felt it, and it was so close. I ran down the hill and I almost shouted in front of the computer. Then I got hit by the beam. I was shocked and then the whole ending scene started. It felt weird, I was confused and most of all I didn't pay attention. I continued all the way up to TIM and thoght "What the hell is the kid doing her, is this like Harry Potter where I need to face my nightmare?". But, then finally all is getting clear and I'm shouting NO! (for real). I didn't want this to end this way. I wanted to have my kids with Liara, I wanted to visit Garrus on that tropical beach and I wanted to step into Tali's house. I wanted that for my Shepard cause that was what I was fighting for. Even though I like bitter sweet endings in movies and books, this was not one of them. Not this Shepard. My other Shepards might work with that. But not this one, this is my canon, my happy ending.

After a few raging thoughts I made up my mind. I went for the paragon colour (I didn't pay attention) and saw the ending. I HATED IT. I was sad for the first time ever playing a game. I started to hate what they have made me feel. I was angry that they took away so many characters and then gave me this. The credit started to roll, SCREW THAT, I skipped them and then the final scene with the little kid talking with the old man and then I was back on Normandy. WHAT?! This can't be it.

And there I was, 27 years old, confused and was about to join the witch hunt. Then I saw a part of this thread's name "hallucination" and all the pieces hit me like a hammer. How could I've been so BLIND?! I'm a guy who loves deep movies like Donnie Darko and Mulholland Drive. I love to question every angle. But this time I let my guard down, I was fooled by the little kid (dare I say Harbinger). I don't know what happened, the clues where all there, the dreams, the sounds and specially that last illusive man clip. But I think I acted like a real human, by my heart for the first time ever in a game. I wasn't doing the right choice, I was tricked to feel, I was fooled to believe, I was really CONTROLLED by a reaper.

Now when I read through this (not all of the pages) I'm laughing. I was just deceived by this brilliance and I wouldn’t have it any other way. I’m a bit disappointed that I didn’t find out by myself, but it really doesn’t matter. This way I feel part of something big, they throw something at us and we start thinking and questioning every last part of it. I doubted them, but know I see it. AWESOME!
I also want to add that the kid talked WAY too much about chaos and order.

Sorry for TL;DR, but wanted to vent.

/Dougremer

[hismastersvoice]

PrivateFrost wrote...

But if you need to choose to "Destroy" to , let's say, continue Shepard's story, isn't that kind of a douche move with Renegade players, or the people who chose Synthesis?

You can choose to skip content in ME2 and suffer the consequences - you can die there. You may be able to choose a bad ending for your ME3 story too.

[LenabotSE]

iwillkillfortali wrote...

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

The_ilest wrote...

so captain anderson and the illusive man are still alive. seems really stupid.

Maybe not. TIM might be, but Anderson might have died (wasn't he running down the hill with you?). 

Anyway, as I've said before, I don't play that many PC games (only one I pop in is Civ V) so excuse this question if stupid, but I've heard that the required install size for ME3 is missing literal gigs to what you actual put on your drive. This has led aome evidence to the "it was on the disc the whole time to be unlocked later" theory. 

But, I guess my question is: is this common at all. What I mean is this, is it common for games to be Gigs smaller in size than the required install size?

I think you are right because the space requirements are 15 gb while on my pc the installation folder is 10 gb.

Is that before or after the Prothean DLC, though?  Though I guess that would only account for about one gig anyway.

Might explain why, playing 360, I didn't use disc 2 for too terribly long.  

[iwillkillfortali]

LenabotSE wrote...

iwillkillfortali wrote...

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

The_ilest wrote...

so captain anderson and the illusive man are still alive. seems really stupid.

Maybe not. TIM might be, but Anderson might have died (wasn't he running down the hill with you?). 

Anyway, as I've said before, I don't play that many PC games (only one I pop in is Civ V) so excuse this question if stupid, but I've heard that the required install size for ME3 is missing literal gigs to what you actual put on your drive. This has led aome evidence to the "it was on the disc the whole time to be unlocked later" theory. 

But, I guess my question is: is this common at all. What I mean is this, is it common for games to be Gigs smaller in size than the required install size?

I think you are right because the space requirements are 15 gb while on my pc the installation folder is 10 gb.

Is that before or after the Prothean DLC, though?  Though I guess that would only account for about one gig anyway.

Might explain why, playing 360, I didn't use disc 2 for too terribly long.  

After the prothean dlc.

[AM94]

Anyone wonder why the Catalyst(since it had been on the Citadel all along) allow the code of the Keepers to be altered by the Prothean scientists to stall the cycle. You'd think it would have noticed the Protheans and what they were doing. That seems to be a fact overlooked and i really wish you had more time to speak with the Catalyst assuming this wasnt some indoctrination/hallucination thing.

[lookingglassmind]

lil_89 wrote...

Um, guys, has anyone else noticed that in some cases there is only ONE choise?? At the end, the godchild ONLY gives shep one option... the destroy one.
look at this vid:www.youtube.com/watch

When and why does this happen?? I had all the three choices explained to me + the whole "most of your technology will be destroyed", while this Shep + other vids i found only have the one.. What the hell`?

Guys, this is actually terribly important.

OP: the amount of choices that you have is related to your EMS. The more EMS you have, the more choices you have.

But this brings up an important thought... why WOULD Destroy ever be presented as your only option? And, why is Synthesis the one hardest to get? I know this has been brought up before, but I have yet to see a convincing explanation for Synthesis. I feel, in my gut, that Synthesis means more than this thread has explored. I think understanding Synthesis is key in understanding the endings in full. Maybe the ME series.

But no-one seems able to touch it yet. I wish I had more ME1 lore knowledge, but I'm working on it. Tech singularity is important to this case.

[Gamingtrek12025]

LenabotSE wrote...

iwillkillfortali wrote...

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

The_ilest wrote...

so captain anderson and the illusive man are still alive. seems really stupid.

Maybe not. TIM might be, but Anderson might have died (wasn't he running down the hill with you?). 

Anyway, as I've said before, I don't play that many PC games (only one I pop in is Civ V) so excuse this question if stupid, but I've heard that the required install size for ME3 is missing literal gigs to what you actual put on your drive. This has led aome evidence to the "it was on the disc the whole time to be unlocked later" theory. 

But, I guess my question is: is this common at all. What I mean is this, is it common for games to be Gigs smaller in size than the required install size?

I think you are right because the space requirements are 15 gb while on my pc the installation folder is 10 gb.

Is that before or after the Prothean DLC, though?  Though I guess that would only account for about one gig anyway.

Might explain why, playing 360, I didn't use disc 2 for too terribly long.  

Same here i noticed that for Disc 2 as well. The DLC is only around 600 MB i think,

[ceruleancrescent]

lil_89 wrote...

Um, guys, has anyone else noticed that in some cases there is only ONE choise?? At the end, the godchild ONLY gives shep one option... the destroy one.
look at this vid:www.youtube.com/watch

When and why does this happen?? I had all the three choices explained to me + the whole "most of your technology will be destroyed", while this Shep + other vids i found only have the one.. What the hell`?

Everyone, every living and synthetic being was destroyed in this ending...Maybe this ending comes up when you do the bare minimum?

[AM94]

Also, correct me if im wrong but i dont remember Anderson being among the people charging towards the beam with the rest of us, how the hell did he make it.

[PrivateFrost]

Hm, I guess that makes sense. Well, back to replaying ME3 and choosing destroy.

[Traderjoeeeee]

I don't know if this has been mentioned..

The ending is indoctrination. The starchild's voice is not only of the child's voice.. but that of both the FemShep and MaleShep. You can hear it very clearly with headphones..

Which makes the ending that much more fascinating if you believe the indoctrination theory to be true... it'd make it seem like the Reaper(s) was/were using Commander Shepard's own "small still voice" to voice their agenda to him.. to make him believe that control and synthesis were the key to peace and victory..where in hindsight they are exactly what the Reapers want.

It's incredible really.

Of course, I could be just grasping onto some false hope.. indoctrinating myself into thinking that the ending truly wasn't as bad as it was.

[tuzem2]

lookingglassmind wrote...

lil_89 wrote...

Um, guys, has anyone else noticed that in some cases there is only ONE choise?? At the end, the godchild ONLY gives shep one option... the destroy one.
look at this vid:www.youtube.com/watch

When and why does this happen?? I had all the three choices explained to me + the whole "most of your technology will be destroyed", while this Shep + other vids i found only have the one.. What the hell`?

Guys, this is actually terribly important.

OP: the amount of choices that you have is related to your EMS. The more EMS you have, the more choices you have.

But this brings up an important thought... why WOULD Destroy ever be presented as your only option? And, why is Synthesis the one hardest to get? I know this has been brought up before, but I have yet to see a convincing explanation for Synthesis. I feel, in my gut, that Synthesis means more than this thread has explored. I think understanding Synthesis is key in understanding the endings in full. Maybe the ME series.

But no-one seems able to touch it yet. I wish I had more ME1 lore knowledge, but I'm working on it. Tech singularity is important to this case.

Exactly.

I also think there is a reason why Synthesis is the hardest to get! And besides it's the only one I like, if you take out the fact I died

Modifié par tuzem2, 12 mars 2012 - 10:43 .

[FRancium]

Bioware states they started ME project with the ambitious idea that it will be a trilogy and things will carry over. Now they are ambitiously doing either one of two things: 1. Fooling players into indoctrination. It would be legendary. 2. Ending a trilogy without a boss fight (my last move in action was dodging banshees and bullets since I couldn't beat them all and activating the missiles, really Bioware?)

[Omega Scythe]

AndyB wrote...

Omega Scythe wrote...

MaroonMoore93 wrote...

More news from the Twitter front!

Zach Naizer -
@masseffect Any idea when the debree on earth around the n7 armor is going to be removed?

Mass Effect-
@alaggyhost We have no ETA at this time

No.  No no no.  Nooooooo way.

That.....that can't be true.  I cannot let myself believe that we actually got it right.

Deeeeep breaths.  

........holy ****.  If we were right all along.......

........there are no words.  My brain cannot compute something like this.  Too much insane gleeful prancing and screaming would occur.

What does this mean?

That was me, attempting to hold back a freakout.  Until now, with all of these apparently teasing tweets, I was optimistic but in the back of my mind grimly convinced that I would eventually have to move on, that nothing would come of it, no matter how awesome this theory is.

The idea that the whole theory might be right and that there could be hope was too much for my overexcitable mind to handle.

[Ainyan42]

A couple of tweets from @masseffect:

------------------

Okay. Now the official @masseffect twitter is teasing stuff that fits in with the ending theories floating around....

@generaltekno We tease nothing.

------------------

Wait wait @masseffect is now toying with us on the endings either 1. They are Harbinger 2. They are evil 3. They know things *tinfoil hat*

@restingphoenix Us? Evil?

[Auresta]

tuzem2 wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

lil_89 wrote...

Um, guys, has anyone else noticed that in some cases there is only ONE choise?? At the end, the godchild ONLY gives shep one option... the destroy one.
look at this vid:www.youtube.com/watch

When and why does this happen?? I had all the three choices explained to me + the whole "most of your technology will be destroyed", while this Shep + other vids i found only have the one.. What the hell`?

Guys, this is actually terribly important.

OP: the amount of choices that you have is related to your EMS. The more EMS you have, the more choices you have.

But this brings up an important thought... why WOULD Destroy ever be presented as your only option? And, why is Synthesis the one hardest to get? I know this has been brought up before, but I have yet to see a convincing explanation for Synthesis. I feel, in my gut, that Synthesis means more than this thread has explored. I think understanding Synthesis is key in understanding the endings in full. Maybe the ME series.

But no-one seems able to touch it yet. I wish I had more ME1 lore knowledge, but I'm working on it. Tech singularity is important to this case.

Exactly.

I also think there is a reason why Synthesis is the hardest to get! And besides it's the only one I like, if you take out the fact I died

I've also come across the fact that synthesis is the hardest to get - at the same time, it is also the "hardest" to get Shepard to even live, and that is only in Destroy. It's hard to wrap my head around anything...