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Same with the Anderson dialoguelex0r11 wrote...
byne wrote...
Yknow, no matter what, the Extended Content had damned well better include the cut Geth Prime and Jack dialogue from London.
WHAT THE ****? WHY WOULD ANYONE CUT THIS STUFF?
lex0r11 wrote...
byne wrote...
Yknow, no matter what, the Extended Content had damned well better include the cut Geth Prime and Jack dialogue from London.
WHAT THE ****? WHY WOULD ANYONE CUT THIS STUFF?
*snip*
byne wrote...
lex0r11 wrote...
byne wrote...
Yknow, no matter what, the Extended Content had damned well better include the cut Geth Prime and Jack dialogue from London.
WHAT THE ****? WHY WOULD ANYONE CUT THIS STUFF?
*snip*
Seriously. I mean I can understand cutting Jacob's stuff, since its just Jacob, and his lines are ridiculously silly, but this stuff?
I dont even
lex0r11 wrote...
The more cut content I find, the more I realize how great the endgame could've been.
I'm so sad.
lex0r11 wrote...
The more cut content I find, the more I realize how great the endgame could've been.
I'm so sad.
byne wrote...
lex0r11 wrote...
The more cut content I find, the more I realize how great the endgame could've been.
I'm so sad.
Yknow, with them just relegating all your former squad to hologram convos, why couldnt they have thrown Spacer Shep's mom in there as a call I can make?
I'm fairly certain Shep would rather say goodbye to her mom than talk to Jacob one last time.
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byne wrote...
Yknow, with them just relegating all your former squad to hologram convos, why couldnt they have thrown Spacer Shep's mom in there as a call I can make?
I'm fairly certain Shep would rather say goodbye to her mom than talk to Jacob one last time.
D.Sharrah wrote...
Probably cause they would have to give her a face...and you know how much flak they have gotten over Tali's face...I can just see the same with Mom Shep...maybe too much variation in character creation to come up with a plausible looking Mom for all the possible Shep's out there (unless they do a retcon and say that Shep was adopted
Simon_Says wrote...
byne wrote...
Yknow, with them just relegating all your former squad to hologram convos, why couldnt they have thrown Spacer Shep's mom in there as a call I can make?
I'm fairly certain Shep would rather say goodbye to her mom than talk to Jacob one last time.
Especially for a Femshep who romanced him in 2 only to get dumped. <_<
Simon_Says wrote...
byne wrote...
Yknow, with them just relegating all your former squad to hologram convos, why couldnt they have thrown Spacer Shep's mom in there as a call I can make?
I'm fairly certain Shep would rather say goodbye to her mom than talk to Jacob one last time.
Especially for a Femshep who romanced him in 2 only to get dumped. <_<
D.Sharrah wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
To those that had questions regarding how IT could strengthen the "Saren/Shepard MIrror" theme...i don't think that it is possible to do simply, but I will try.
To this theme justice we have to look at its entire evolution. In ME 1 the game clearly sets up so that Shepard and Saren are rivals on a collision course. In fact many of Shepard's actions are in direct response to the allies that Saren is trying to bulid. Saren has a research base to study indoctrination and clone Krogans...Shepard blows it up. Saren leaves Geth littered through the galaxy to attempt to destroy any evidence to what he is doing - Shepard stops them and finds the evidence. This all comes down to a final confrontation where you are given the ability (whether paragon or renegade and have invested in the appropriate skills) to convince Saren that he is indoctrinated but that he can still fight the reapers...
In ME 2 you have a dual purpose, (in alot of ways stemming from the fact that it is the midle installment of a trilogy ) there is the self contained story of that chapter and the preparation for the final chapter. This can be seen in the fact that during you fight against the collector's you are given the choice to strengthen your position to be able to gain allies for the final fight against the Reapers. There are two very obvious choices that play a huge role and play directly into the theme being discussed. The first is a decison to cure the genophage, an act that could potentially strengthen an ally and your ability to negotiate for their aid. Do you remember that Saren was also working to create an army of Krogan? Coincidence, possible. But then you are giving the option to allow a Geth to join your squad and efforts to fight the Collectors/Reapers...a Geth that informs of you a split in their people - a split that has one side looking for their own future and one side siding with the Reapers. This Geth then asks for your help to stop the threat of those that would follow the Reapers, where ultimately you are again given a choice to potentially strengthen an ally and your position to negotiate for their aid. Can it be coincidence again that this ally just happens to be another that Saren himself recruited in his effort to have an army that would pave the way for the return of the reapers? By this point in ME 2 I was starting to see that Saren and Shepard were mirrors of each other - an interesting observational study on how two potentially divergent paths could lead to the same place.
Then we reach ME 3. How could this theme be strengthened? Is there any thing that Saren has faced that Shepard has not? They both were insanely talented soldiers that were recognized for those talents and recrutied to join the Spectres. They were both thrust into politically explosive situations with galactic implications. They both have recruited as allies the Krogan and the Geth. They both were exposed to reaper tech. But to this point, the major difference was that the Saren had succumbed to the dangers of being indoctrinated, while Shepard had shown no signs of it all. If we are to believe all of the information that is given to us in the lore (codex, etc.), then how can we so quickly dismiss the idea that Shepard (given the amount of contact that he has had with reaper tech) would not be subject to the same danger that Saren faced. In other words, thematically (given this mirror between the two) the fact that Shepard would face indoctrination at some point makes perfect sense.
So, if IT is true at the ending sequence of the game is Shepard's final breaking point where the Reapers finally put all of the effort in one last attempt to indoctrinate Shepard, the arc of the theme would be complete. Shepard would have done and faced everything that Saren had done and faced as well. Which if we look at the mirror as more of an example of Ying-Yang, then Shepard being able to somehow defeat the indoctrination attempt as the absolute best way to tie the theme together completely.
I hope that this explains a little more deeply, exactly what I meant when I said that IT would both be stregthened and supported (and conversely the opposite as well) by this theme.
I wanted to post this again...since it seems to be getting lost in some of the other conversations going on (great convos by the way).
Seriously want to get some reaction to this...been brewing for awhile and want to see if anyone else feels this way...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
So here it is.
Lined up all entries and then all short conversations when you climbed the ladder.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
So here it is.
Lined up all entries and then all short conversations when you climbed the ladder.
Think of her more as FemHawke who ran and assumed a new identity and it makes total sense.byne wrote...
Also, Brynn is kind of weird.
>Steal Shepard's boyfriend
>Tell her to her face about how you did it and dont regret it
>Plan to name child after Shepard
Seriously, Brynn?
MegumiAzusa wrote...
So here it is.
Lined up all entries and then all short conversations when you climbed the ladder.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
So here it is.
Lined up all entries and then all short conversations when you climbed the ladder.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
So here it is.
Lined up all entries and then all short conversations when you climbed the ladder.
Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 06 mai 2012 - 01:08 .
estebanus wrote...
lex0r11 wrote...
The more cut content I find, the more I realize how great the endgame could've been.
I'm so sad.
Maybe the EC will include all those cut segments!
Simon_Says wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
So here it is.
Lined up all entries and then all short conversations when you climbed the ladder.
Liara's dialogue is... well I think it sounds suspicious.
She's usually so much more emotive than that...
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