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Modifié par grey_wind, 06 mai 2012 - 01:12 .
Simon_Says wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
So here it is.
Lined up all entries and then all short conversations when you climbed the ladder.
Liara's dialogue is... well I think it sounds suspicious.
She's usually so much more emotive than that...
grey_wind wrote...
I have a question:
If IT was actually implemented in the game, and the real ending was only available after you picked Destroy (this is presuming the ending is not DLC but in the game from the start), do you think people would be pissed that only one choice was correct or would everybody would be mindblown and applauding BioWare?
I personally think it would be the latter, but I'm curious to hear others' opinions on this.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Especially the second part after climbing the ladder, Liara, Vega, and Ash all express the feeling of being watched.
We also know Vega hears unusual humming on the Normandy, Ash is questioning herself, and Liara seems pretty much odd in the whole scene.
Compared to Garrus, Tali, and Javik who are just disgusted.
My guess would be it's a "it better be worth it" reaction, but interesting observation.byne wrote...
Why exactly upon first seeing the Crucible does the game do a close up of Shepard clenching her fist?
Thats usually just to indicate when Shep is angry and you're about to get a renegade interrupt of some sort.
Seems kind of out of place as a reaction to seeing the device thats supposed to save the day.
Auralius Carolus wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Especially the second part after climbing the ladder, Liara, Vega, and Ash all express the feeling of being watched.
We also know Vega hears unusual humming on the Normandy, Ash is questioning herself, and Liara seems pretty much odd in the whole scene.
Compared to Garrus, Tali, and Javik who are just disgusted.
So, you guys are looking for evidence of indoctrination here?
Sorry to disappoint guys, but Reapers- even in death- emit immense amounts of Electro-Magnetic Energy, which can result in the "6th Sense", along with hallucinations.
Without the Reaper nanites that imbed themselves in you, this effect is no different that passing by a large poorly wrapped wire. And determining if any such nanites infect your squad here, to proceed with implantation, energy field emition and Reaper signal processing, is virtually impossible in the short term.
The thing is that it seems Liara, Vega, and Ash already have these nanites in them as they react completely different. You think it's chance there are two different responses by Shep and that the response hinting more to indoctrination are exactly the people who seem to be the candidates for indoctrination?Auralius Carolus wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Especially the second part after climbing the ladder, Liara, Vega, and Ash all express the feeling of being watched.
We also know Vega hears unusual humming on the Normandy, Ash is questioning herself, and Liara seems pretty much odd in the whole scene.
Compared to Garrus, Tali, and Javik who are just disgusted.
So, you guys are looking for evidence of indoctrination here?
Sorry to disappoint guys, but Reapers- even in death- emit immense amounts of Electro-Magnetic Energy, which can result in the "6th Sense", along with hallucinations.
Without the Reaper nanites that imbed themselves in you, this effect is no different that passing by a large poorly wrapped wire. And determining if any such nanites infect your squad here, to proceed with implantation, energy field emition and Reaper signal processing, is virtually impossible in the short term.
Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 06 mai 2012 - 01:21 .
MegumiAzusa wrote...
My guess would be it's a "it better be worth it" reaction, but interesting observation.byne wrote...
Why exactly upon first seeing the Crucible does the game do a close up of Shepard clenching her fist?
Thats usually just to indicate when Shep is angry and you're about to get a renegade interrupt of some sort.
Seems kind of out of place as a reaction to seeing the device thats supposed to save the day.
Maybe not really related but TIM does the same at another time:
http://www.youtube.c...5uTqiSrs#t=275s
And usually I would say he isn't the type for that.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
My guess would be it's a "it better be worth it" reaction, but interesting observation.byne wrote...
Why exactly upon first seeing the Crucible does the game do a close up of Shepard clenching her fist?
Thats usually just to indicate when Shep is angry and you're about to get a renegade interrupt of some sort.
Seems kind of out of place as a reaction to seeing the device thats supposed to save the day.
Maybe not really related but TIM does the same at another time:
http://www.youtube.c...5uTqiSrs#t=275s
And usually I would say he isn't the type for that.
grey_wind wrote...
I have a question:
If IT was actually implemented in the game, and the real ending was only available after you picked Destroy (this is presuming the ending is not DLC but in the game from the start), do you think people would be pissed that only one choice was correct or would everybody be mindblown and applauding BioWare?
I personally think it would be the latter, but I'm curious to hear others' opinions on this.
Auralius Carolus wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
My guess would be it's a "it better be worth it" reaction, but interesting observation.byne wrote...
Why exactly upon first seeing the Crucible does the game do a close up of Shepard clenching her fist?
Thats usually just to indicate when Shep is angry and you're about to get a renegade interrupt of some sort.
Seems kind of out of place as a reaction to seeing the device thats supposed to save the day.
Maybe not really related but TIM does the same at another time:
http://www.youtube.c...5uTqiSrs#t=275s
And usually I would say he isn't the type for that.
Shepard probably realized that the Crucible was actually a Dr. Evil Giant Laser.
Dwailing wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
My guess would be it's a "it better be worth it" reaction, but interesting observation.byne wrote...
Why exactly upon first seeing the Crucible does the game do a close up of Shepard clenching her fist?
Thats usually just to indicate when Shep is angry and you're about to get a renegade interrupt of some sort.
Seems kind of out of place as a reaction to seeing the device thats supposed to save the day.
Maybe not really related but TIM does the same at another time:
http://www.youtube.c...5uTqiSrs#t=275s
And usually I would say he isn't the type for that.
You know, is it just me, or does TIM look older in the scene where you see him in real life (so to speak)? I mean, in the hologram, he looks pretty much like he did in ME2, but in the scene where you see him "in person" he looks more wrinkled to me. It could just be a change in appearance, like with Udina, or a strange effect caused by the lighting, but it just struck me as weird.
Auralius Carolus wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Especially the second part after climbing the ladder, Liara, Vega, and Ash all express the feeling of being watched.
We also know Vega hears unusual humming on the Normandy, Ash is questioning herself, and Liara seems pretty much odd in the whole scene.
Compared to Garrus, Tali, and Javik who are just disgusted.
So, you guys are looking for evidence of indoctrination here?
Sorry to disappoint guys, but Reapers- even in death- emit immense amounts of Electro-Magnetic Energy, which can result in the "6th Sense", along with hallucinations.
Without the Reaper nanites that imbed themselves in you, this effect is no different that passing by a large poorly wrapped wire. And determining if any such nanites infect your squad here, to proceed with implantation, energy field emition and Reaper signal processing, is virtually impossible in the short term.
byne wrote...
Auralius Carolus wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
My guess would be it's a "it better be worth it" reaction, but interesting observation.byne wrote...
Why exactly upon first seeing the Crucible does the game do a close up of Shepard clenching her fist?
Thats usually just to indicate when Shep is angry and you're about to get a renegade interrupt of some sort.
Seems kind of out of place as a reaction to seeing the device thats supposed to save the day.
Maybe not really related but TIM does the same at another time:
http://www.youtube.c...5uTqiSrs#t=275s
And usually I would say he isn't the type for that.
Shepard probably realized that the Crucible was actually a Dr. Evil Giant Laser.
Nah, its pretty clearly a Playstation Move
*snip*
MegumiAzusa wrote...
The thing is that it seems Liara, Vega, and Ash already have these nanites in them as they react completely different. You think it's chance there are two different responses by Shep and that the response hinting more to indoctrination are exactly the people who seem to be the candidates for indoctrination?
byne wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
My guess would be it's a "it better be worth it" reaction, but interesting observation.byne wrote...
Why exactly upon first seeing the Crucible does the game do a close up of Shepard clenching her fist?
Thats usually just to indicate when Shep is angry and you're about to get a renegade interrupt of some sort.
Seems kind of out of place as a reaction to seeing the device thats supposed to save the day.
Maybe not really related but TIM does the same at another time:
http://www.youtube.c...5uTqiSrs#t=275s
And usually I would say he isn't the type for that.
You know, is it just me, or does TIM look older in the scene where you see him in real life (so to speak)? I mean, in the hologram, he looks pretty much like he did in ME2, but in the scene where you see him "in person" he looks more wrinkled to me. It could just be a change in appearance, like with Udina, or a strange effect caused by the lighting, but it just struck me as weird.
I brought this up a while ago, saying it looked like he was already degenerating into the version we see in the end-game, and that the hologram is covering up for it, but everyone else was like 'Nah its just a lighting glitch, you're crazy."
It does in fact look less wrinkled on PC, but it's still more then usual. Hard to tell if intentionally or not.Dwailing wrote...
byne wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
My guess would be it's a "it better be worth it" reaction, but interesting observation.byne wrote...
Why exactly upon first seeing the Crucible does the game do a close up of Shepard clenching her fist?
Thats usually just to indicate when Shep is angry and you're about to get a renegade interrupt of some sort.
Seems kind of out of place as a reaction to seeing the device thats supposed to save the day.
Maybe not really related but TIM does the same at another time:
http://www.youtube.c...5uTqiSrs#t=275s
And usually I would say he isn't the type for that.
You know, is it just me, or does TIM look older in the scene where you see him in real life (so to speak)? I mean, in the hologram, he looks pretty much like he did in ME2, but in the scene where you see him "in person" he looks more wrinkled to me. It could just be a change in appearance, like with Udina, or a strange effect caused by the lighting, but it just struck me as weird.
I brought this up a while ago, saying it looked like he was already degenerating into the version we see in the end-game, and that the hologram is covering up for it, but everyone else was like 'Nah its just a lighting glitch, you're crazy."
You're not crazy. The fact that you were able to create IT proves it. Also, I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking that something is up with TIMMY.
Auralius Carolus wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
The thing is that it seems Liara, Vega, and Ash already have these nanites in them as they react completely different. You think it's chance there are two different responses by Shep and that the response hinting more to indoctrination are exactly the people who seem to be the candidates for indoctrination?
They reactions are appropriate for EMF exposure- nervousness, feeling watched, a sense of being "violated".
As for different reactions, people vary in their sensitivity- the most adverse reactions can cause heart problems, vomitting, etc. albeit, such people are rare. There is also something there to be said artistically about breaking up the the companion dialogue some.
I personally would expect Garrus and Tali to be indoctrinated, out of all the crew, given their more extensive background with Shepard.
Simon_Says wrote...
When was it established that nanite infection was neccesary for full indoctrination?
HellishFiend wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
So here it is.
Lined up all entries and then all short conversations when you climbed the ladder.
Liara's dialogue is... well I think it sounds suspicious.
She's usually so much more emotive than that...
You must be thinking about a different Liara. The Liara I've had in my games all these years has always sounded like that... I can only think of a few occassions where she has been "emotive"... The rest of the time she sounds exactly like she does in that clip.
Dwailing wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
So here it is.
Lined up all entries and then all short conversations when you climbed the ladder.
Liara's dialogue is... well I think it sounds suspicious.
She's usually so much more emotive than that...
You must be thinking about a different Liara. The Liara I've had in my games all these years has always sounded like that... I can only think of a few occassions where she has been "emotive"... The rest of the time she sounds exactly like she does in that clip.
With regards to the video. I find it interesting that the people who have been with Shepard the least amount of time have the feeling of being watched. Javik is the exception, but when you think about it, he's probably been exposed to a ****ton of Reapers and Reaper tech throughout his life.
Could make sense if you say Shep is indoctrinated too and because of that just jokes about it as she is so accustomed to it. But still the lines where Vega hears his hum, would that go away too? If yes then all are indoctrinatedNeoDobby wrote...
Auralius Carolus wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
The thing is that it seems Liara, Vega, and Ash already have these nanites in them as they react completely different. You think it's chance there are two different responses by Shep and that the response hinting more to indoctrination are exactly the people who seem to be the candidates for indoctrination?
They reactions are appropriate for EMF exposure- nervousness, feeling watched, a sense of being "violated".
As for different reactions, people vary in their sensitivity- the most adverse reactions can cause heart problems, vomitting, etc. albeit, such people are rare. There is also something there to be said artistically about breaking up the the companion dialogue some.
I personally would expect Garrus and Tali to be indoctrinated, out of all the crew, given their more extensive background with Shepard.
Hmm, when I think about it, it could make sense. Not getting the feeling of being watched (or having adjusted to it) could just as well mean they're more indoctrinated.
byne wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
So here it is.
Lined up all entries and then all short conversations when you climbed the ladder.
Liara's dialogue is... well I think it sounds suspicious.
She's usually so much more emotive than that...
You must be thinking about a different Liara. The Liara I've had in my games all these years has always sounded like that... I can only think of a few occassions where she has been "emotive"... The rest of the time she sounds exactly like she does in that clip.
With regards to the video. I find it interesting that the people who have been with Shepard the least amount of time have the feeling of being watched. Javik is the exception, but when you think about it, he's probably been exposed to a ****ton of Reapers and Reaper tech throughout his life.
Anyone remember how I brought up a while ago that if you bring James with you on the mission that takes place in the Firebase Reactor multiplayer map, he's talks about how he feels like he's being watched? And it turns out that place is infested with husks and marauders and brutes and all that good Reaper stuff?
Also his complete squad was indoctrinated.Dwailing wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
So here it is.
Lined up all entries and then all short conversations when you climbed the ladder.
Liara's dialogue is... well I think it sounds suspicious.
She's usually so much more emotive than that...
You must be thinking about a different Liara. The Liara I've had in my games all these years has always sounded like that... I can only think of a few occassions where she has been "emotive"... The rest of the time she sounds exactly like she does in that clip.
With regards to the video. I find it interesting that the people who have been with Shepard the least amount of time have the feeling of being watched. Javik is the exception, but when you think about it, he's probably been exposed to a ****ton of Reapers and Reaper tech throughout his life.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Could make sense if you say Shep is indoctrinated too and because of that just jokes about it as she is so accustomed to it. But still the lines where Vega hears his hum, would that go away too? If yes then all are indoctrinatedNeoDobby wrote...
Auralius Carolus wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
The thing is that it seems Liara, Vega, and Ash already have these nanites in them as they react completely different. You think it's chance there are two different responses by Shep and that the response hinting more to indoctrination are exactly the people who seem to be the candidates for indoctrination?
They reactions are appropriate for EMF exposure- nervousness, feeling watched, a sense of being "violated".
As for different reactions, people vary in their sensitivity- the most adverse reactions can cause heart problems, vomitting, etc. albeit, such people are rare. There is also something there to be said artistically about breaking up the the companion dialogue some.
I personally would expect Garrus and Tali to be indoctrinated, out of all the crew, given their more extensive background with Shepard.
Hmm, when I think about it, it could make sense. Not getting the feeling of being watched (or having adjusted to it) could just as well mean they're more indoctrinated.
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