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Dwailing wrote...
Intreguing theory. Maybe you should start a thread about that and see what others think. Of course, that's assuming that some of these people would even know who Hobbes is. I thought I had heard the name before, but it took my looking him up on the Wikipedia to remember exactly who he was, and there are others who would not have the foggiest who you might be refering to.
I would, but I feel it would come off as being too preachy. But I'll elaborate for Byne, who seemingly thinks Hobbes is an animated Tiger.
Thomas Hobbes, the Leviathan and the Reapers
Hobbes was one of the first political philosophers to spur on the Enlightenment, even though many of his notions would eventually be shunned by such figures as Locke, Buckley, Smith and Burke. He, unlike the aforementioned, believed in the consolidation of power instead of its dispersal, creating the philosophy of the Leviathan.
The Leviathan was to be a political system in which the members of a given society would elect a monarch or a small council, and then willingly invest all of their rights and wills into that figure in order to create a "Mortal God". Those freemen would then become Subjects, having almost no rights and acting without free will unless granted by the new "Sovereign".
The Sovereign would become the embodiment of the nation and could do no injustice to his people, as they had brought it into being. The Sovereign had absolute control over every aspect of life and the Subjects were made "equal" in their drone-like state, but unified as all, philisophically, being one with the Sovereign. To Hobbes, whatever tyrannies committed by the Sovereign were favorable to the "chaos" and "man-against-man" conflict otherwise seen in life.
And the Reapers? Union and absolution through a literal combination of individuals within society into one being; an entire society acting with one soul, with a pledged goal of bringing "order to the chaos". Hobbes refered to this non-social contract form of conquest by the Sovereign as "Natural Law of Force", which- once again- was to protect the Leviathan and bring order to those "warring amongst themselves" within the "chaos".
So, is the kitty like that Byne?
I'll just leave this here...




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