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[Ch1m3Ra]

SubAstris wrote...

Ch1m3Ra wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Doesn't any ITer find it weird that in the leaked script there was no indication of IT being true?
Surely that would contain the "real ending", as it did all the rest of the game, but it didn't.

Doesn't any Anti-ITer ever consider that 'leaks' nowadays might not always be leaks in the classical sense, but sometimes intended?

I work as a network admin and trust me, it's very much so possible to track the source of the leak back (firewall logs, who plugged in what USB stick where), so finding out what user did it when is easy!
And since the employee had to sign a NDA, they are prob. done with Bioware after the leak is tracked back to them.

So, I'm having a hard time imagining that all those employees are so suicidal and leak company property so often. It's not like the finding a new job is a triviallity in comparison to being a troll and leak a script/beta to the public.

I agree that sometimes things are "convenientlym leaked". However, that does not mean it is the case here. And even if intended, why not go the whole hog and include the real ending?

The leaked scripts were all text were they not? Can you figure out if Shepard was getting indoctrinated through there? Because I don't think most if not all of the evidence from IT is from dialogue, merely the strangeness of it...

I was referring more to dialogue, scenes after you make your choice...

Was referring to your first post as well. My fault, should have read properly before quoting first.

Why would they put the ending in the leaked scripts though? The leaked and final were pretty similar were they? And they were leaked pretty close to when the game went gold. So I don't see any reason for them to put it in.

[DirtyPhoenix]

MaximizedAction wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

VA's are confirmed to be in the EC.. BioWare said they wanted to make sure enough people finished ME3 to comment.. to think that they may not have had this planned for a long time is downright absurd to me.

Here's how I think of it. They had the groundwork for the IT set in stone before the game released. There was no question it'd be done, however, they wanted everyone to experience the ending first before they did anything about it. After that, THEN they start focusing all their attention on wrapping up the story. This way they don't have to worry about a deadline and such and are free to fine tune this as much as possible to make sure it's the very best it can be.

I don't see why people don't want it that way..

I'm ready to accept Bioware as my gods if all this was indeed preplanned. BTW, any links for the confirmation? Not doubting you just want to strengthen my faith

https://twitter.com/...035499128696832

Thanks. I hope the EC, if it doesnt contain gameplay, is atleast content-heavy and does a good job at explaining all the holes. 

And any help on this? :s

Ok an offtopic question to whoever may
have expertise in these: I started a new game and wanted to experience
the (dis)pleasure of shooting Mordin in the shroud. The thing is,
according to the default story eve dies and Wreav is in charge, so it is
easy to convince Mordin to back down. I wanted to have a solid reason
to shoot Mordin, so I edited the saves to save Maelon's data. I figured
that would mean eve would survive and Mordin wont back down. But when i
reached that point the same default story plays out, eve is dead etc
tec.

So my question is, what do I have to do to make it happen
and do I have to do it at any specific point? Or is there no way to do
it in the defalt shep and I have to import a shep with the appropriate
variables?

I'd build a minor statue in the honour of whoever helps me :l

[MegumiAzusa]

pirate1802 wrote...

And any help on this? :s

Ok an offtopic question to whoever may
have expertise in these: I started a new game and wanted to experience
the (dis)pleasure of shooting Mordin in the shroud. The thing is,
according to the default story eve dies and Wreav is in charge, so it is
easy to convince Mordin to back down. I wanted to have a solid reason
to shoot Mordin, so I edited the saves to save Maelon's data. I figured
that would mean eve would survive and Mordin wont back down. But when i
reached that point the same default story plays out, eve is dead etc
tec.

So my question is, what do I have to do to make it happen
and do I have to do it at any specific point? Or is there no way to do
it in the defalt shep and I have to import a shep with the appropriate
variables?

I'd build a minor statue in the honour of whoever helps me :l

There is a variable that denotes if the save is imported, if not set it will use defaults and ignore the import variables you set.

[Dwailing]

pirate1802 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

VA's are confirmed to be in the EC.. BioWare said they wanted to make sure enough people finished ME3 to comment.. to think that they may not have had this planned for a long time is downright absurd to me.

Here's how I think of it. They had the groundwork for the IT set in stone before the game released. There was no question it'd be done, however, they wanted everyone to experience the ending first before they did anything about it. After that, THEN they start focusing all their attention on wrapping up the story. This way they don't have to worry about a deadline and such and are free to fine tune this as much as possible to make sure it's the very best it can be.

I don't see why people don't want it that way..

I'm ready to accept Bioware as my gods if all this was indeed preplanned. BTW, any links for the confirmation? Not doubting you just want to strengthen my faith

https://twitter.com/...035499128696832

Thanks. I hope the EC, if it doesnt contain gameplay, is atleast content-heavy and does a good job at explaining all the holes. 

And any help on this? :s

Ok an offtopic question to whoever may
have expertise in these: I started a new game and wanted to experience
the (dis)pleasure of shooting Mordin in the shroud. The thing is,
according to the default story eve dies and Wreav is in charge, so it is
easy to convince Mordin to back down. I wanted to have a solid reason
to shoot Mordin, so I edited the saves to save Maelon's data. I figured
that would mean eve would survive and Mordin wont back down. But when i
reached that point the same default story plays out, eve is dead etc
tec.

So my question is, what do I have to do to make it happen
and do I have to do it at any specific point? Or is there no way to do
it in the defalt shep and I have to import a shep with the appropriate
variables?

I'd build a minor statue in the honour of whoever helps me :l

Why would you want to shoot Mordin?  You must be some kind of heartless puppy kicker if you actually WANT to do it.  If you want to see it, just look it up on YouTube.  No reason to subject your soul to that kind of torture.  I swear, just watching it is enough to make my soul die a little. 

Modifié par Dwailing, 06 mai 2012 - 04:58 .

[SubAstris]

Ch1m3Ra wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Ch1m3Ra wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Doesn't any ITer find it weird that in the leaked script there was no indication of IT being true?
Surely that would contain the "real ending", as it did all the rest of the game, but it didn't.

Doesn't any Anti-ITer ever consider that 'leaks' nowadays might not always be leaks in the classical sense, but sometimes intended?

I work as a network admin and trust me, it's very much so possible to track the source of the leak back (firewall logs, who plugged in what USB stick where), so finding out what user did it when is easy!
And since the employee had to sign a NDA, they are prob. done with Bioware after the leak is tracked back to them.

So, I'm having a hard time imagining that all those employees are so suicidal and leak company property so often. It's not like the finding a new job is a triviallity in comparison to being a troll and leak a script/beta to the public.

I agree that sometimes things are "convenientlym leaked". However, that does not mean it is the case here. And even if intended, why not go the whole hog and include the real ending?

The leaked scripts were all text were they not? Can you figure out if Shepard was getting indoctrinated through there? Because I don't think most if not all of the evidence from IT is from dialogue, merely the strangeness of it...

I was referring more to dialogue, scenes after you make your choice...

Was referring to your first post as well. My fault, should have read properly before quoting first.

Why would they put the ending in the leaked scripts though? The leaked and final were pretty similar were they? And they were leaked pretty close to when the game went gold. So I don't see any reason for them to put it in.

Maybe, I dunno, because it is an important part of the story...

If BW's intention from the start was IT, it would have been in the original script as that details the game in its totality. Why would they leave out the very thing which would confirm IT? It doesn't make sense, unless it wasn't there in the first place....

[SirLugash]

pirate1802 wrote...

While taking with EDI about how reapers are asking the earth leaders to enter their ships to negotiate; Shepard replies: anyone aboard the reapers can be indoctrinated. This, to me, is clearly devised to plant a seed of doubt into the players; the player would think back to the reaper IFF mission.

When does this conversation happen ?
I never heard it before.

[Dwailing]

SubAstris wrote...

Ch1m3Ra wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Ch1m3Ra wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Doesn't any ITer find it weird that in the leaked script there was no indication of IT being true?
Surely that would contain the "real ending", as it did all the rest of the game, but it didn't.

Doesn't any Anti-ITer ever consider that 'leaks' nowadays might not always be leaks in the classical sense, but sometimes intended?

I work as a network admin and trust me, it's very much so possible to track the source of the leak back (firewall logs, who plugged in what USB stick where), so finding out what user did it when is easy!
And since the employee had to sign a NDA, they are prob. done with Bioware after the leak is tracked back to them.

So, I'm having a hard time imagining that all those employees are so suicidal and leak company property so often. It's not like the finding a new job is a triviallity in comparison to being a troll and leak a script/beta to the public.

I agree that sometimes things are "convenientlym leaked". However, that does not mean it is the case here. And even if intended, why not go the whole hog and include the real ending?

The leaked scripts were all text were they not? Can you figure out if Shepard was getting indoctrinated through there? Because I don't think most if not all of the evidence from IT is from dialogue, merely the strangeness of it...

I was referring more to dialogue, scenes after you make your choice...

Was referring to your first post as well. My fault, should have read properly before quoting first.

Why would they put the ending in the leaked scripts though? The leaked and final were pretty similar were they? And they were leaked pretty close to when the game went gold. So I don't see any reason for them to put it in.

Maybe, I dunno, because it is an important part of the story...

If BW's intention from the start was IT, it would have been in the original script as that details the game in its totality. Why would they leave out the very thing which would confirm IT? It doesn't make sense, unless it wasn't there in the first place....

Uh, did you ever think that the script leak might have been intentional?  I mean, it could have all been part of their plan to indoctrinate us, a plan that would appear to have succeeded with you.

[DirtyPhoenix]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

And any help on this? :s

Ok an offtopic question to whoever may
have expertise in these: I started a new game and wanted to experience
the (dis)pleasure of shooting Mordin in the shroud. The thing is,
according to the default story eve dies and Wreav is in charge, so it is
easy to convince Mordin to back down. I wanted to have a solid reason
to shoot Mordin, so I edited the saves to save Maelon's data. I figured
that would mean eve would survive and Mordin wont back down. But when i
reached that point the same default story plays out, eve is dead etc
tec.

So my question is, what do I have to do to make it happen
and do I have to do it at any specific point? Or is there no way to do
it in the defalt shep and I have to import a shep with the appropriate
variables?

I'd build a minor statue in the honour of whoever helps me :l

There is a variable that denotes if the save is imported, if not set it will use defaults and ignore the import variables you set.

But the other changes i did were reflected. I killed off Garrus and many other people, I did the alpha relay mission, those changes came off fine.

[SubAstris]

Dwailing wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Ch1m3Ra wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Ch1m3Ra wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Doesn't any ITer find it weird that in the leaked script there was no indication of IT being true?
Surely that would contain the "real ending", as it did all the rest of the game, but it didn't.

Doesn't any Anti-ITer ever consider that 'leaks' nowadays might not always be leaks in the classical sense, but sometimes intended?

I work as a network admin and trust me, it's very much so possible to track the source of the leak back (firewall logs, who plugged in what USB stick where), so finding out what user did it when is easy!
And since the employee had to sign a NDA, they are prob. done with Bioware after the leak is tracked back to them.

So, I'm having a hard time imagining that all those employees are so suicidal and leak company property so often. It's not like the finding a new job is a triviallity in comparison to being a troll and leak a script/beta to the public.

I agree that sometimes things are "convenientlym leaked". However, that does not mean it is the case here. And even if intended, why not go the whole hog and include the real ending?

The leaked scripts were all text were they not? Can you figure out if Shepard was getting indoctrinated through there? Because I don't think most if not all of the evidence from IT is from dialogue, merely the strangeness of it...

I was referring more to dialogue, scenes after you make your choice...

Was referring to your first post as well. My fault, should have read properly before quoting first.

Why would they put the ending in the leaked scripts though? The leaked and final were pretty similar were they? And they were leaked pretty close to when the game went gold. So I don't see any reason for them to put it in.

Maybe, I dunno, because it is an important part of the story...

If BW's intention from the start was IT, it would have been in the original script as that details the game in its totality. Why would they leave out the very thing which would confirm IT? It doesn't make sense, unless it wasn't there in the first place....

Uh, did you ever think that the script leak might have been intentional?  I mean, it could have all been part of their plan to indoctrinate us, a plan that would appear to have succeeded with you.

I have already answered this. They release absolutely everything (except conveniently the very thing that confirms IT)? Extremely unlikely

[Big Bad]

SubAstris wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Ch1m3Ra wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Ch1m3Ra wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Doesn't any ITer find it weird that in the leaked script there was no indication of IT being true?
Surely that would contain the "real ending", as it did all the rest of the game, but it didn't.

Doesn't any Anti-ITer ever consider that 'leaks' nowadays might not always be leaks in the classical sense, but sometimes intended?

I work as a network admin and trust me, it's very much so possible to track the source of the leak back (firewall logs, who plugged in what USB stick where), so finding out what user did it when is easy!
And since the employee had to sign a NDA, they are prob. done with Bioware after the leak is tracked back to them.

So, I'm having a hard time imagining that all those employees are so suicidal and leak company property so often. It's not like the finding a new job is a triviallity in comparison to being a troll and leak a script/beta to the public.

I agree that sometimes things are "convenientlym leaked". However, that does not mean it is the case here. And even if intended, why not go the whole hog and include the real ending?

The leaked scripts were all text were they not? Can you figure out if Shepard was getting indoctrinated through there? Because I don't think most if not all of the evidence from IT is from dialogue, merely the strangeness of it...

I was referring more to dialogue, scenes after you make your choice...

Was referring to your first post as well. My fault, should have read properly before quoting first.

Why would they put the ending in the leaked scripts though? The leaked and final were pretty similar were they? And they were leaked pretty close to when the game went gold. So I don't see any reason for them to put it in.

Maybe, I dunno, because it is an important part of the story...

If BW's intention from the start was IT, it would have been in the original script as that details the game in its totality. Why would they leave out the very thing which would confirm IT? It doesn't make sense, unless it wasn't there in the first place....

Uh, did you ever think that the script leak might have been intentional?  I mean, it could have all been part of their plan to indoctrinate us, a plan that would appear to have succeeded with you.

I have already answered this. They release absolutely everything (except conveniently the very thing that confirms IT)? Extremely unlikely

Actually, if IT is true, and the leak was intentional (i'm not saying that it was!), that is exactly what I would expect them to do.

[SubAstris]

Big Bad wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Ch1m3Ra wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Ch1m3Ra wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Doesn't any ITer find it weird that in the leaked script there was no indication of IT being true?
Surely that would contain the "real ending", as it did all the rest of the game, but it didn't.

Doesn't any Anti-ITer ever consider that 'leaks' nowadays might not always be leaks in the classical sense, but sometimes intended?

I work as a network admin and trust me, it's very much so possible to track the source of the leak back (firewall logs, who plugged in what USB stick where), so finding out what user did it when is easy!
And since the employee had to sign a NDA, they are prob. done with Bioware after the leak is tracked back to them.

So, I'm having a hard time imagining that all those employees are so suicidal and leak company property so often. It's not like the finding a new job is a triviallity in comparison to being a troll and leak a script/beta to the public.

I agree that sometimes things are "convenientlym leaked". However, that does not mean it is the case here. And even if intended, why not go the whole hog and include the real ending?

The leaked scripts were all text were they not? Can you figure out if Shepard was getting indoctrinated through there? Because I don't think most if not all of the evidence from IT is from dialogue, merely the strangeness of it...

I was referring more to dialogue, scenes after you make your choice...

Was referring to your first post as well. My fault, should have read properly before quoting first.

Why would they put the ending in the leaked scripts though? The leaked and final were pretty similar were they? And they were leaked pretty close to when the game went gold. So I don't see any reason for them to put it in.

Maybe, I dunno, because it is an important part of the story...

If BW's intention from the start was IT, it would have been in the original script as that details the game in its totality. Why would they leave out the very thing which would confirm IT? It doesn't make sense, unless it wasn't there in the first place....

Uh, did you ever think that the script leak might have been intentional?  I mean, it could have all been part of their plan to indoctrinate us, a plan that would appear to have succeeded with you.

I have already answered this. They release absolutely everything (except conveniently the very thing that confirms IT)? Extremely unlikely

Actually, if IT is true, and the leak was intentional (i'm not saying that it was!), that is exactly what I would expect them to do.

It needs to be held in my mind that there is no indication whatsoever that it was infact deliberately leaked.

And anyway, why not leak IT ? You could say that because they didn't want to ruin the story they didn't reveal it, but they ruined everything else by intentionally leaking (if they actually did) the entire rest of the game (we found out who died, what planets Shepard went too, every event etc. There is no reason to not leak IT if the rest has been leaked already.

[Big Bad]

SubAstris wrote...

*snip*

It needs to be held in my mind that there is no indication whatsoever that it was infact deliberately leaked.

And anyway, why not leak IT ? You could say that because they didn't want to ruin the story they didn't reveal it, but they ruined everything else by intentionally leaking (if they actually did) the entire rest of the game (we found out who died, what planets Shepard went too, every event etc. There is no reason to not leak IT if the rest has been leaked already.

Again, I have no idea if the leak was done on purpose (I suspect that it probably was not), but you honestly don't think that they would consider witholding the reveal of one of the greatest plot twists in gaming history in order increase the "WOW!" factor once it is actually revealed?

Edit:  Anyway, I don't really think arguing about the motivations behind something that may or may not have even occurred is going to get us anywhere.  I am off to play ME1!

Modifié par Big Bad, 06 mai 2012 - 05:21 .

[SubAstris]

Big Bad wrote...


Again, I have no idea if the leak was done on purpose (I suspect that it probably was not), but you honestly don't think that they would consider witholding the reveal of one of the greatest plot twists in gaming history in order increase the "WOW!" factor once it is actually revealed?

They didn't hold back on anything else, did they? It just seems you are being deliberately ignorant to continue the fantasy of IT

[NeoDobby]

Big Bad wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

*snip*

It needs to be held in my mind that there is no indication whatsoever that it was infact deliberately leaked.

And anyway, why not leak IT ? You could say that because they didn't want to ruin the story they didn't reveal it, but they ruined everything else by intentionally leaking (if they actually did) the entire rest of the game (we found out who died, what planets Shepard went too, every event etc. There is no reason to not leak IT if the rest has been leaked already.

Again, I have no idea if the leak was done on purpose (I suspect that it probably was not), but you honestly don't think that they would consider witholding the reveal of one of the greatest plot twists in gaming history in order increase the "WOW!" factor once it is actually revealed?

The difference between the entire rest of the game and the ending is that we already played the game, but not the entire ending if IT is true. So, if they wanted to keep the complete ending from us until the EC is out, they could leak the game, but not the ending.

[Comguard2]

If they carefully planted ideas for the indoc-theory why do they need the voice-actors for a second run?

I can understand that, in case this was planned all along, they needed extra time to develop 1, 2 additional levels.

But if they already had the idea, why didn't they record the voice acting when they had the opportunity to?

This makes no sense at all...but after the photoshopped-Tali picture my answer to such inconsistencies in the game is not "hidden genius" but "laziness hardly imaginable by normal people".

[SubAstris]

Comguard2 wrote...

If they carefully planted ideas for the indoc-theory why do they need the voice-actors for a second run?

I can understand that, in case this was planned all along, they needed extra time to develop 1, 2 additional levels.

But if they already had the idea, why didn't they record the voice acting when they had the opportunity to?

This makes no sense at all...but after the photoshopped-Tali picture my answer to such inconsistencies in the game is not "hidden genius" but "laziness hardly imaginable by normal people".

Good point. I guess an IT theorist would say they didn't have enough time. BW might not have had enough to do all the visuals, but they could have at least done all the vocal work before.

[SS2Dante]

Comguard2 wrote...

If they carefully planted ideas for the indoc-theory why do they need the voice-actors for a second run?

I can understand that, in case this was planned all along, they needed extra time to develop 1, 2 additional levels.

But if they already had the idea, why didn't they record the voice acting when they had the opportunity to?

This makes no sense at all...but after the photoshopped-Tali picture my answer to such inconsistencies in the game is not "hidden genius" but "laziness hardly imaginable by normal people".

Your argument does raise a valid point, though I suppose one could counter by pointing out that if IT was planned then it was/is supposed to be top secret until revealed. Could simply be a need-to-know situation, and the VO's didn't need to know.

One of the most striking things to me is the cubemap for the crucible, featuring the trees. May I ask how you explain that? It doesn't seem to me that it can be eplained by laziness.

[Unschuld]

SS2Dante wrote...

One of the most striking things to me is the cubemap for the crucible, featuring the trees. May I ask how you explain that? It doesn't seem to me that it can be eplained by laziness.

I'm half & half about this. Sure, yeah, it could be a hint. Or it could just be that when they removed the trees, they didn't bother removing their reflections because they weren't obtrusive enough.

[SubAstris]

SS2Dante wrote...

Comguard2 wrote...

If they carefully planted ideas for the indoc-theory why do they need the voice-actors for a second run?

I can understand that, in case this was planned all along, they needed extra time to develop 1, 2 additional levels.

But if they already had the idea, why didn't they record the voice acting when they had the opportunity to?

This makes no sense at all...but after the photoshopped-Tali picture my answer to such inconsistencies in the game is not "hidden genius" but "laziness hardly imaginable by normal people".

Your argument does raise a valid point, though I suppose one could counter by pointing out that if IT was planned then it was/is supposed to be top secret until revealed. Could simply be a need-to-know situation, and the VO's didn't need to know.

So indeed of adopting the much more efficient system of getting the voice actors to do all their work at the same time, they instead dismissed them after doin most of their work before telling them to come back for a tiny bit afterwards? Makes sense, right?

[DirtyPhoenix]

Dwailing wrote...

Why would you want to shoot Mordin?  You must be some kind of heartless puppy kicker if you actually WANT to do it.  If you want to see it, just look it up on YouTube.  No reason to subject your soul to that kind of torture.  I swear, just watching it is enough to make my soul die a little. 

You know you are right. I reached that point and I just couldn't kill him :S And no I didn't want to do it, just wanted to see it first hand. And no I'm not a puppy kicker, I've got 6 puppies in my home

[Comguard2]

"one of the most striking things to me is the cubemap for the crucible, featuring the trees. May I ask how you explain that?"

That's what I mean, these strange allusions don't make sense.

They had the time to put Jessica Chobot in the game but Tali just gets a photoshopped image.

They had just enough time to do one CGI-Sequence for the end and then recolor it but put secret hints everywhere.

I don't think IT makes no sense, personally I think it does in most points. But the hints inside the game make no sense at all.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

SubAstris wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Comguard2 wrote...

If they carefully planted ideas for the indoc-theory why do they need the voice-actors for a second run?

I can understand that, in case this was planned all along, they needed extra time to develop 1, 2 additional levels.

But if they already had the idea, why didn't they record the voice acting when they had the opportunity to?

This makes no sense at all...but after the photoshopped-Tali picture my answer to such inconsistencies in the game is not "hidden genius" but "laziness hardly imaginable by normal people".

Your argument does raise a valid point, though I suppose one could counter by pointing out that if IT was planned then it was/is supposed to be top secret until revealed. Could simply be a need-to-know situation, and the VO's didn't need to know.

So indeed of adopting the much more efficient system of getting the voice actors to do all their work at the same time, they instead dismissed them after doin most of their work before telling them to come back for a tiny bit afterwards? Makes sense, right?

Or the work they are doing is not for the EC but other dlc?

Or the voice actors are in on it?

For all that your hard trying you dont really put any effort into actually providing proof for why we are wrong.

Try watching this video and then come back here and point for point refute what it brings up, please?

[SS2Dante]

Unschuld wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

One of the most striking things to me is the cubemap for the crucible, featuring the trees. May I ask how you explain that? It doesn't seem to me that it can be eplained by laziness.

I'm half & half about this. Sure, yeah, it could be a hint. Or it could just be that when they removed the trees, they didn't bother removing their reflections because they weren't obtrusive enough.

But that doesn't actually answer the question. The trees we see are very obviously 2d, not matching the rest of the cubemap. And the assumption that there ever WERE trees needs just as much explanation. They don't match the rest of the scene at all, they have zero reason to be there. 

[NeoDobby]

pirate1802 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Why would you want to shoot Mordin?  You must be some kind of heartless puppy kicker if you actually WANT to do it.  If you want to see it, just look it up on YouTube.  No reason to subject your soul to that kind of torture.  I swear, just watching it is enough to make my soul die a little. 

You know you are right. I reached that point and I just couldn't kill him :S And no I didn't want to do it, just wanted to see it first hand. And no I'm not a puppy kicker, I've got 6 puppies in my home

I always thought I'd do a complete renegade run after ME 3 - maybe I still will, but I think it won't do any good to my mental health ...

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Comguard2 wrote...

"one of the most striking things to me is the cubemap for the crucible, featuring the trees. May I ask how you explain that?"

That's what I mean, these strange allusions don't make sense.

They had the time to put Jessica Chobot in the game but Tali just gets a photoshopped image.

They had just enough time to do one CGI-Sequence for the end and then recolor it but put secret hints everywhere.

I don't think IT makes no sense, personally I think it does in most points. But the hints inside the game make no sense at all.

So the dreams make no sense (please dont say PTSD, PTSD is more than bad dreams which is even showed in the game) The ending makes no sense when taken litterally (as pointed out so beatifully in the vid I linked in my last post)Trees suddenly popping up after shepard is hit by Harbingers beam make no sense and would take extra work to make.

When looking at the ending literaly it makes no sense, no sense at all. It is complete 180 degrees on all we have been taught throughout the games, all we have fought for and features the most bland and completely ludicrous Space Magic...

IT at least try to make sense of that.