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[Earthborn_Shepard]

lex0r11 wrote...

There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

I had a dream quite a while ago, which was basically about Reapers invading the Dragon Age world. o.O Of course in the dream it was rather weird, but then I thought "this could actually be pretty amazing"

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Bah, it's leaks like that I blame for what's happening now. Don't get me wrong, I liked every second of ME3 but Obviously a lot of people didn't because of the endings. I'm wondering if the leak(s) never got out would the endings have been better? Or maybe just better executed.

I really hope there's NO leak of any story DLC Bioware puts out, might ruin the whole damn plan.

I don't really see how... The script for the ending barely changed between the leak and the finished product.
I'm hoping nobody leaks the EC before it's out, mostly because I want to see it when I play it...

I have this sneaking suspicion that the leak was intentional, I mean, people didn't like it then and they still didn't change it.

As a matter of fact, the leak had a much more fleshed out ending including a portion where 'You were bunkered down with Hammer and Harbingers beam knocks you into some debris. You pull a metal rod from your leg, apply some medi-gel, and continue with Anderson towards the Citadel.

Yeah "leaks" in the gaming world are in my opinion more often than not intentional. It is for when developers want to start building hype before the actual announcemnet of "Insert opcoming game here."

I base this mostly on the enormous difference between some game companies when it comes to leaks. Some seem to leak every month or so whiel others never seem to leak a thing (Valve, Nintendo primarily)

But anyway that apart about the rubble sounds strangely familiar...it is almost like I have seen it somehwere...

.....Cloverfield? No wait thats a metal rod in the abdomen. Rubble. Shepard's Breath. Now I gotta watch it again. 214!

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

lex0r11 wrote...

Sorry for sidetracking.


There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

You are right...oh god it is conspiracy between Bioware and Blizzard! The real ending is in Diablo 3!!!

*Screams and runs of to order a copy of Diablo 3*

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

I had a dream quite a while ago, which was basically about Reapers invading the Dragon Age world. o.O Of course in the dream it was rather weird, but then I thought "this could actually be pretty amazing"

Try a dream about beeing Starkiller from the force unleashed games, riding a dragon in the battle of the Pelenor Fields with the mumakils replaced with AT-AT...yeah my mind is ****ed up when I sleep.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

I had a dream quite a while ago, which was basically about Reapers invading the Dragon Age world. o.O Of course in the dream it was rather weird, but then I thought "this could actually be pretty amazing"

That would be something to see. Reapers go and poke the Qunari though they'll be in some trouble, bastards are tough enough to fight the rest of the world to a standstill o_o

Magic vs Reapers?? I gotta see this.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Hm...Bioware gamers having similar dreams... Crossovers...elemenets from Bioware games. ME2, Derelct Reaper logs, Cerberus personnel appear to have the same memories exchanged. Arrival, alliance personnel mention recurring nightmares. Indoctrination!

I think I need to sleep.

[TSA_383]

Erm, something actually relevant I've noticed...
The ambient music that overlays the end of the final dream when you see shepard and the child burning is the same music that's played at the end for the choice.

[lex0r11]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Sorry for sidetracking.


There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

You are right...oh god it is conspiracy between Bioware and Blizzard! The real ending is in Diablo 3!!!

*Screams and runs of to order a copy of Diablo 3*

Amiright? The sounds especially in the last 15 seconds in that spot gave me the creeps. DAMN.

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...
 [...]

I had
a dream quite a while ago, which was basically about Reapers invading
the Dragon Age world. o.O Of course in the dream it was rather weird,
but then I thought "this could actually be pretty amazing"

Don't worry, I have weird dreams all the time.

Harby would go with his "We are the Harbinger of your perfection!"
And Sandal would just say "Space Magic?" and massacre the **** out of them.

Or Sten would just say youtu.be/bfNI0HRTBHk

Modifié par lex0r11, 08 mai 2012 - 10:35 .

[Stigweird85]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

I had a dream quite a while ago, which was basically about Reapers invading the Dragon Age world. o.O Of course in the dream it was rather weird, but then I thought "this could actually be pretty amazing"

Well remember that in the Kasumi DLC Donovan had a statue of an ogre from DA:2, it was an Easter egg for fans but you could use it to tie the franchises together after all the reaper/Protheans did conduct experiments on Early earth. SSandel used a power similar to stasis that is never seen again. Also mages could become abonimations and o the bidding of the demon while still in human form, sounds similar to indoctrination no?

:innocent:

[MegumiAzusa]

Arian Dynas wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Hey guys, just registered on BSN for the first time to post this observation I had on the ending:
http://social.biowar.../index/11929257

I think it should inform some of the indoctrination theory debate somewhat. Certainly more than texture file names or obscure shadows

One thing to mention. The notes have been discussed several times, and one important thing you missed.

It says "Ending of the FIRST Matrix".

You know, it doesn't say if it meant the first movie or the first matrix in the movies, you know, the utopia?

[MegumiAzusa]

bigstig wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

I had a dream quite a while ago, which was basically about Reapers invading the Dragon Age world. o.O Of course in the dream it was rather weird, but then I thought "this could actually be pretty amazing"

Well remember that in the Kasumi DLC Donovan had a statue of an ogre from DA:2, it was an Easter egg for fans but you could use it to tie the franchises together after all the reaper/Protheans did conduct experiments on Early earth. SSandel used a power similar to stasis that is never seen again. Also mages could become abonimations and o the bidding of the demon while still in human form, sounds similar to indoctrination no?

:innocent:

ME and DA had tons of crossreferences anyway. The most funny of them is imo the Dwarven Commander Shepard
But they are just easter eggs, BioWare said in an interview that the Dragon Age series are the most successfull games in the Mass Effect universe

[MegumiAzusa]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

I had a dream quite a while ago, which was basically about Reapers invading the Dragon Age world. o.O Of course in the dream it was rather weird, but then I thought "this could actually be pretty amazing"

That would be something to see. Reapers go and poke the Qunari though they'll be in some trouble, bastards are tough enough to fight the rest of the world to a standstill o_o

Magic vs Reapers?? I gotta see this.

You mean Biotics vs Reapers?

[Rifneno]

duranii wrote...

To be honest, I was a firm believer in the indoctrination theory until I decided to research the facts and saw the other side of the coin. There's more ACTUAL evidence AGAINST the theory than there is FOR it. A lot of the IT relies on speculation and what I call "leaps of logic."

This video was pretty much the last straw that caused me to completely doubt the indoctrination theory. View it fully. It was well made in my opinion: www.youtube.com/watch

Skip to 3:30 to see the most damning evidence against the theory if you don't want to see the whole thing. Thing is, the things that disprove the theory can actually be seen and confirmed as fact because they ACTUALLY HAPPEN IN GAME.

That's your grand proof? The fact the soldier in the prologue glances at the shuttle and the kid happens to be between the two? Leaps of logic indeed.

Of course the first clue should have been the way you try to make yourself seem more credible by telling us you once believed in IT. If your "facts" could stand on their own two feet then you wouldn't have to focus on trying to build up your own credibility. They'd speak for themselves. Except they don't.

I never knew an ending could suck so bad that it causes people to be so utterly blind to obvious facts because the IT is the only way to save the ending at this point.

Oh shut the hell up. Christ I'm sick of you "people" and your dimestore psychology. Listening to Oprah 7 days a week doesn't qualify you to tell total strangers how their subconscious is working.

Arian Dynas wrote...

Don't make me get out my theory on the Reaper's creation and their motivations again... I'm sick of getting in debates with Rifneno about his "Harbinger is the Prothean Reaper" theory.

And by "debates" you mean "replying 'nah' one time after reading approx. 0.5% of the post" right?

WOW! What an intelligent and well reasoned argument that is absolutely not just you spewing your hatred for a company that you only have a general concept about and have no actual involvement in!

Sarcasmo the Magnificent approves (+15)

Every time the try we become stronger and make a capital ship from the smoking remains of their arguments

But even with tens of thousands of them, they still think they can beat them in a conventional battle if they just get everyone to fight side by side. Which totally wouldn't also unify the Reapers. Or something.

Rip504 wrote...

The Reapers did try to indoctrinate Shepard at the end of ME3. It was through TIM,and it failed.

Arian, how many times have I told you to lock the door behind you!

HellishFiend wrote...

Hmm, I have to say I feel quite the opposite. I'd like to think that TIM really did just have humanity's best interests at heart from the beginning, but that his extreme ambition was easily manipulated by the Reapers.

Of course he did. <Godwin's law> So did Hitler. </Godwin's law> Thing is, what a sick monster perceives as a good thing isn't generally what a person with a conscience would call a good thing. Very few people, no matter how much of a horrible abomination they are, see themselves as evil.

And no, Joker fans, he doesn't count. Batman's Joker I mean, not the galaxy's best pilot. The Joker is an especially unrealistic character even by the standards of the company that gave us Superman. I feel that has to be said because whenever this topic comic comes up, someone inevitably tries to retort with that "watching the world burn" quote in the monumentally mistaken idea that it's insightful.

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

might have been a panel, I'll try to find the dialogue...

either way.. apparently iD makes you see creatures that aren't there...

EDIT: found it:

Cerberus Scientist: Third day with this headache. You'd think Chandana would have let me take a few hours off.
Goddamn!
Cerberus Researcher: What?
Cerberus Scientist:
That thing that just… gray thing! It disappeared when I looked straight
at it. Came out of the damn wall! Where we took off that panel.

Aww, you left off the terrified "I'm telling you, this thing isn't dead! It knows we're inside it!"
The derelict Reaper had such an awesome ambiance to it. In 25 years of gaming, I can only think of a handful of places that really gave me the chills like that did. Only ones I can think of off-hand are that, the Primeval Thaig in DA2, and the Dead Sea in Chrono Cross. They all just had this... aura to them. It was like the screen and speakers were bleeding wrongness.

[Rosewind]

lex0r11 wrote...

Sorry for sidetracking.


There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

OMFG OMFG Only a week ONLY A WEEK!!!!

[estebanus]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

bigstig wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

I had a dream quite a while ago, which was basically about Reapers invading the Dragon Age world. o.O Of course in the dream it was rather weird, but then I thought "this could actually be pretty amazing"

Well remember that in the Kasumi DLC Donovan had a statue of an ogre from DA:2, it was an Easter egg for fans but you could use it to tie the franchises together after all the reaper/Protheans did conduct experiments on Early earth. SSandel used a power similar to stasis that is never seen again. Also mages could become abonimations and o the bidding of the demon while still in human form, sounds similar to indoctrination no?

:innocent:

ME and DA had tons of crossreferences anyway. The most funny of them is imo the Dwarven Commander Shepard
But they are just easter eggs, BioWare said in an interview that the Dragon Age series are the most successfull games in the Mass Effect universe

Dwarven commander Shepard?! Where the hell is that?

[Rosewind]

estebanus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

bigstig wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

I had a dream quite a while ago, which was basically about Reapers invading the Dragon Age world. o.O Of course in the dream it was rather weird, but then I thought "this could actually be pretty amazing"

Well remember that in the Kasumi DLC Donovan had a statue of an ogre from DA:2, it was an Easter egg for fans but you could use it to tie the franchises together after all the reaper/Protheans did conduct experiments on Early earth. SSandel used a power similar to stasis that is never seen again. Also mages could become abonimations and o the bidding of the demon while still in human form, sounds similar to indoctrination no?

:innocent:

ME and DA had tons of crossreferences anyway. The most funny of them is imo the Dwarven Commander Shepard
But they are just easter eggs, BioWare said in an interview that the Dragon Age series are the most successfull games in the Mass Effect universe

Dwarven commander Shepard?! Where the hell is that?

Think he was in Orazmmar

[lex0r11]

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Sorry for sidetracking.


There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

OMFG OMFG Only a week ONLY A WEEK!!!!

[Tirian Thorn]

Rifneno wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

might have been a panel, I'll try to find the dialogue...

either way.. apparently iD makes you see creatures that aren't there...

EDIT: found it:

Cerberus Scientist: Third day with this headache. You'd think Chandana would have let me take a few hours off.
Goddamn!
Cerberus Researcher: What?
Cerberus Scientist:
That thing that just… gray thing! It disappeared when I looked straight
at it. Came out of the damn wall! Where we took off that panel.

Aww, you left off the terrified "I'm telling you, this thing isn't dead! It knows we're inside it!"
The derelict Reaper had such an awesome ambiance to it. In 25 years of gaming, I can only think of a handful of places that really gave me the chills like that did. Only ones I can think of off-hand are that, the Primeval Thaig in DA2, and the Dead Sea in Chrono Cross. They all just had this... aura to them. It was like the screen and speakers were bleeding wrongness.

I agree on all three counts - those are some of the creepiest levels in gaming.  They definately made my skin crawl. 

[estebanus]

Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

bigstig wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

I had a dream quite a while ago, which was basically about Reapers invading the Dragon Age world. o.O Of course in the dream it was rather weird, but then I thought "this could actually be pretty amazing"

Well remember that in the Kasumi DLC Donovan had a statue of an ogre from DA:2, it was an Easter egg for fans but you could use it to tie the franchises together after all the reaper/Protheans did conduct experiments on Early earth. SSandel used a power similar to stasis that is never seen again. Also mages could become abonimations and o the bidding of the demon while still in human form, sounds similar to indoctrination no?

:innocent:

ME and DA had tons of crossreferences anyway. The most funny of them is imo the Dwarven Commander Shepard
But they are just easter eggs, BioWare said in an interview that the Dragon Age series are the most successfull games in the Mass Effect universe

Dwarven commander Shepard?! Where the hell is that?

Think he was in Orazmmar

But where? I never saw him there!

[Rosewind]

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Sorry for sidetracking.


There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

OMFG OMFG Only a week ONLY A WEEK!!!!

Exactly how i feel

[Tirian Thorn]

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Sorry for sidetracking.


There are "reaper-ish" sounds in the Diablo 3 TV spot too.

youtu.be/EyzPEmEJIYM


*goes nuts*

OMFG OMFG Only a week ONLY A WEEK!!!!

*Snip

Exactly how i feel

Eh.  I'm not going crazy for D3.  I guess it's because none of the classes really excite me.  I like paladin's and spell-sword types.  The hybrid warrior/mage.  That's why I'm looking forward to the guardian class in Guild Wars 2. 

I might get D3 eventually. 

Besides, there are still things I want to do in Skyrim and I haven't even done a second full playthrough of DA:2.  

 

[Rosewind]

HOW dare you sir!!!

[MaximizedAction]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Hey guys, just registered on BSN for the first time to post this observation I had on the ending:
http://social.biowar.../index/11929257

I think it should inform some of the indoctrination theory debate somewhat. Certainly more than texture file names or obscure shadows

One thing to mention. The notes have been discussed several times, and one important thing you missed.

It says "Ending of the FIRST Matrix".

You know, it doesn't say if it meant the first movie or the first matrix in the movies, you know, the utopia?

Haven't thought about it this way!
Shepard waking up is like rejecting the utopia that was created for her, where e.g. her Normandy just crashed down and even the ones that probably died (deleted scene) besides you seem to live happily(smile, Liara!) ever after.

That puzzle piece, to me, seems to fit here more natural. Otherwise, the end of the first Matrix movie? Are we then supposed to be Trinity who wakes us up from our death?

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...

Erm, something actually relevant I've noticed...
The ambient music that overlays the end of the final dream when you see shepard and the child burning is the same music that's played at the end for the choice.

The soundtracks leaving Earth, dreams and the rgb sequences are all based on Mansell's "Leaving Earth".

Or did you mean an ambient track BESIDE the soundtrack music?

[Arian Dynas]

Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Don't make me get out my theory on the Reaper's creation and their motivations again... I'm sick of getting in debates with Rifneno about his "Harbinger is the Prothean Reaper" theory.

And by "debates" you mean "replying 'nah' one time after reading approx. 0.5% of the post" right?

 

Oh don't give me that, I read the damn post, but the fact is you only have a bit of conjecture and some VERY circumstantial evidence to back it up, you have no more to prove your point than I have with which to disprove you.There isn't enough solid evidence either way. So let's agree to disagree and we can stop fighting about it, and you can stop flogging it. Deal?