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[Arian Dynas]

masster blaster wrote...

EOh and why should we download the extended cut. All it is going to have is none important stuff that will make no sense, and that every thing at the end wiil be the same. Also I like to point out that when bioware said that the relays can be rebuilt by the correct choice. Well destroy is out of the obtion since it killed all tech, o that's right you lived so poor writing right there bioware.

Wat.

[lex0r11]

Skaldian wrote...

I WANT TO BELIEVE!

[Arian Dynas]

lex0r11 wrote...

Skaldian wrote...

I WANT TO BELIEVE!

*snip*

Lex0r, since the truth is out there, I demand a new picture.


I DEMAND MULDER SHEPARD! (and maybe Scully Shepard)

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 09 mai 2012 - 02:13 .

[paxxton]

lex0r11 wrote...

Skaldian wrote...

I WANT TO BELIEVE!

Shepard to Niftu Cal: Charge!

[N7L4D]

N7L4D wrote...

 social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11942610/2

Byne add this vid from the thread above as evidence for IT

[lex0r11]

Arian Dynas wrote...


Lex0r, since the truth is out there, I demand a new picture.


I DEMAND MULDER SHEPARD! (and maybe Scully Shepard)

Huh? What did I miss? Or what is going past my brain right now?

Modifié par lex0r11, 09 mai 2012 - 02:20 .

[Arian Dynas]

lex0r11 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


Lex0r, since the truth is out there, I demand a new picture.


I DEMAND MULDER SHEPARD! (and maybe Scully Shepard)

Huh? What did I miss? Or what is going past my brain right now?

Nothing really, I just demand you make a motivational featuring a Shepard whom is a Mulder Lookalike.

[Dwailing]

 So, since we're on the topic of FemShep right now, I'm thinking about doing a FemShep playthrough starting in ME1.  Do you guys think I should wait to finish my current ME3 playthrough, or just launch right in? 

[BP20125810]

I beleived in IT at first, but, the facts (real world facts) just don't hold up for me. If Bioware had thought of an idea THAT cool, it would have been in the final game. They would've delayed it just to get it in.

[Dwailing]

BP20125810 wrote...

I beleived in IT at first, but, the facts (real world facts) just don't hold up for me. If Bioware had thought of an idea THAT cool, it would have been in the final game. They would've delayed it just to get it in.

See, one of the key points to IT is that if Bioware had not done this exactly the way they did, it wouldn't have had the same impact.  If they had just said, "OK, it was an indoctrination attempt, whoop-dee-frakking-doo," then the ending wouldn't have had the same impact.  However, by doing it this way, making people think about what they saw and making them discuss their findings and experiences, they increase the emotional impact of the reveal significantly.

Modifié par Dwailing, 09 mai 2012 - 02:27 .

[lex0r11]

Dwailing wrote...

 So, since we're on the topic of FemShep right now, I'm thinking about doing a FemShep playthrough starting in ME1.  Do you guys think I should wait to finish my current ME3 playthrough, or just launch right in? 

I just started mine a few days back, first real playthrough with Femshep. But I think you should finish ME3, hate unfinished things.

And these ME1 grenades are driving me CRAZY.

Arian Dynas wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


Lex0r, since the truth is out there, I demand a new picture.


I DEMAND MULDER SHEPARD! (and maybe Scully Shepard)

Huh? What did I miss? Or what is going past my brain right now?

Nothing really, I just demand you make a motivational featuring a Shepard whom is a Mulder Lookalike.

Ouch, that one is going to be tough. Might take ahwile.

Modifié par lex0r11, 09 mai 2012 - 02:30 .

[TSA_383]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Nauks wrote...

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Hmm hearing the voices that can be played in the dreams:
There is one of Diana Allers... but the voices are only people who die, how can she die? Or is that played when you kick her off the Normandy?

I think if you kick her off the Normandy she embeds herself on a different ship, and it gets destroyed.

That's some ME3 replay value right there! :happy:

Aw, come on... Allers wasn't that bad. Sure she dressed like a trollop and looked like she was having an allergic reaction to something, but she did have some things you could admire in a reporter, dedicated to her story, dedicated to finding out the truth and informing the galaxy, yet capable of restraint when necessary.

I really didn't hate Allers.  I don't think she looks that bad, and honestly, I think I might be the only person who doesn't mind Jessica Chobot's voice acting.  Also, you get all the war asset benefits that come with having her on the Normandy.

Chobot is definetly the voice of mediocrity. To be honest, she's the only two reasons to watch IGN. She's rather extremely vapid IMO. Allers only has the benefit of showing us a very limited part of her personality, so we only get to see the few good parts. Unlike little miss "I preform oral sex on a PSP to get hired."

Pics or it didn't happen:



That said, as unimaginably irritating as her voice acting is... you know you still would
http://www.2flashgam...Chobot_0010.htm

Modifié par TSA_383, 09 mai 2012 - 02:33 .

[Dwailing]

lex0r11 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

 So, since we're on the topic of FemShep right now, I'm thinking about doing a FemShep playthrough starting in ME1.  Do you guys think I should wait to finish my current ME3 playthrough, or just launch right in? 

I just started mine a few days back, first real playthrough with Femshep. But I think you should finish ME3, hate unfinished things. ^^'


*snip*

Thanks for the advice.  That's what I was leaning towards anyway, but I wanted to hear what others thought.

[Rifneno]

[quote]blooregard wrote...

I always thought Barla Von was the least douchey Volus until the Biotic god. Even then Barla has to be my favorite Volus[/quote]

Well he's helpful but I'm more than a little leery of Shadow Broker agents. Sure, Liara's the SB now but...

[quote]Arian Dynas wrote...

And Rifneno, I am including MY theory on the Reapers, so fair's fair, flog your own theory all you like, just know I don't agree, and likely won't.[/quote]

I don't recall asking you to. Frankly, that's reserved for people who read it before responding to it. What I was remarking on was "[i]Don't make me get out my theory on the Reaper's creation and their motivations again... I'm sick of getting in debates with Rifneno about his "Harbinger is the Prothean Reaper" theory.[i]" This states you're sick of something that never happened, and implies that it's a more tired subject than your theory.

[quote]Simon_Says wrote...

@Arian: Yes. Minty shows up and you immediately react immaturely. This is gonna end well. Let me ask you this: Is Minty even worth responding to or even acknowledging? That's right. Let it rant and rave and get bored. Report it if it's not getting the hint or does something particularly stupid.[/quote]

Obviously you weren't around for the last 10 times it got reported for religious hate speeches and nothing happened. Apparently the mods expect that stupid "zero tolerance" pop-up warning to do the job all on its lonesome, because all we've ever gotten is one popping in to tell us to shut up about Twilight.

[quote]byne wrote...

I read some quote from some dev that they specifically decided against modeling Tali's face, because they didnt want people to make mods where her without a mask was a selectable outfit for her.

Still a stupid excuse, in my opinion.
[/quote]

Remember the time that Dragon Age dev got pissy about seeing videos where Morrigan was wearing armor because "Morrigan would never wear armor"? I don't mean modded stuff, I mean armor she can wear in the vanilla game. Ahh, fun times... I guess that's how we got that terribad system in DA2.

[quote]Arian Dynas wrote...

As for part of why I engage MintyCool, part of it is fun, I've always enjoyed good quality heckling. Though at times she gives me a headache. I refuse to beleive that much stupid can be concentrated into one person.[/quote]

Awww, someone's never watched any presidential debates.

[quote]Just started that the other day in fact. I gotta say, it's a bit hard to get into the television series, while I am loving the setting, and don't mind the violence TOO much (there is such a thing as too much, as well as the Gory Discretion Shot, too much and the audience gets blase about it.) do they really have to show a woman getting railed every 20 minutes? I mean god, that's a bit excessive, what ever happened to silouette? [/quote]

When did we start talking about Witcher?

Oh well, I approve. Henselt is almost as much fun to murderize as Udina.

[quote]Jeez, how many times must I repeat myself >.>? [/quote]

72.

[quote]Chobot is definetly the voice of mediocrity. To be honest, she's the only two reasons to watch IGN. She's rather extremely vapid IMO. Allers only has the benefit of showing us a very limited part of her personality, so we only get to see the few good parts. Unlike little miss "I preform oral sex on a PSP to get hired."[/quote]

What is this I don't even... How do you... Does the PSP have a... *shakes head* Moving on.

[quote]paxxton wrote...

Well, I quite like Diana Allers. In contrast to Kalissa Al-Jilani she's an honest person. She just seems a bit different than other characters.[/quote]

That's like saying "in contrast to being flayed alive, having your throat slit is a fun way to spend an afternoon." Allers has absolutely 0 personality. Which is still way the **** more than Kaiden.

[quote]Dwailing wrote...

[quote]BP20125810 wrote...

I beleived in IT at first, but, the facts (real world facts) just don't hold up for me. If Bioware had thought of an idea THAT cool, it would have been in the final game. They would've delayed it just to get it in.[/quote]

See, one of the key points to IT is that if Bioware had not done this exactly the way they did, it wouldn't have had the same impact. If they had just said, "OK, it was an indoctrination attempt, whoop-dee-frakking-doo," then the ending wouldn't have had the same impact. However, by doing it this way, making people think about what they saw and making them discuss their findings and experiences, they increase the emotional impact of the reveal significantly.
[/quote]

"I like this human turian! He understands!"

[Arian Dynas]

BP20125810 wrote...

I beleived in IT at first, but, the facts (real world facts) just don't hold up for me. If Bioware had thought of an idea THAT cool, it would have been in the final game. They would've delayed it just to get it in.

Ok first a few things to make clear.

One, IDT actually states they DID get it in the game.

The ending itself is inconslusive for several reasons.

Psychological; If the ending were immedately revealed, then people wouldn't pay it any thought, just reload and try the other options. This gives people time to stew.

Economical: Several reasons here, one train of thought states this was a compromise between EA and Bioware, with Bioware wanting 6 more months to finish the game, yet considering they had pushed back release once already (Something that is pure DEATH in the PR world) they only got 3 months to finish the game, and 3 more to make ending DLC.

Another school of thought states that the whole thing was meant to be inconclusive and generate interest for an expansion pack/ sequel.

My own thoughts on the subject state the whole thing was a DLC schedule planned with Multiplayer integration in mind. They start up ANN, establishing a timeline concurrent with ours (apparently the invasion began March 5th, with the 6th being when Shepard left Earth) and give people a place holder ending that will satisfy them, while they maintain interest with Multiplayer events, corresponding to major Operations in the war, releasing a DLC for multiplayer every so often to coincide with races that have joined the fight.

Single Player DLC is released on dates corresponding to their occurence, reflecting major battles (like From Ashes, which apparently takes place quite nearly just out of the gate) or operations, like the proposed Take Back Omega DLC. Then, when the ANN timeline has caught up to when the Siege of Earth begins, they release a HUGE ending DLC that reveals "voila! Indoctrination! You actually got to play Shepard here, and unfortunately, some of you knuckled under."

Only part one of the plan; Generate a satisfying placeholder ending that still generates questions and keeps people speculating got scuppered, so they're forced to make the EC, which they hadn't planned on to patch up the suitation.

Literary: They're actually indoctrinating the player here, by Hudson's own admission, he wanted the player to feel as Shepard does, and in this case, Shepard feels doubt, alot of it. So should the player.

[lex0r11]

Dwailing wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

 So, since we're on the topic of FemShep right now, I'm thinking about doing a FemShep playthrough starting in ME1.  Do you guys think I should wait to finish my current ME3 playthrough, or just launch right in? 

I just started mine a few days back, first real playthrough with Femshep. But I think you should finish ME3, hate unfinished things. ^^'


*snip*

Thanks for the advice.  That's what I was leaning towards anyway, but I wanted to hear what others thought.

http://data.whicdn.c...-jpg_large.3008

[DirtyPhoenix]

masster blaster wrote...

EOh and why should we download the extended cut. All it is going to have is none important stuff that will make no sense, and that every thing at the end wiil be the same. Also I like to point out that when bioware said that the relays can be rebuilt by the correct choice. Well destroy is out of the obtion since it killed all tech, o that's right you lived so poor writing right there bioware.

When did they mention destroy would kill ALL tech? I was under the impression destroy would kill reapers + synthetics + mass relays.

[byne]

pirate1802 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

EOh and why should we download the extended cut. All it is going to have is none important stuff that will make no sense, and that every thing at the end wiil be the same. Also I like to point out that when bioware said that the relays can be rebuilt by the correct choice. Well destroy is out of the obtion since it killed all tech, o that's right you lived so poor writing right there bioware.

When did they mention destroy would kill ALL tech? I was under the impression destroy would kill reapers + synthetics + mass relays.

I think it depends on your EMS, the lower it is, the more stuff destroy screws up.

At the lowest possible it pretty much wipes the galaxy clean of life.

Why the strength of your fleet should determine what the Crucible does, I dont know, but it does.

[Arian Dynas]

Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

And Rifneno, I am including MY theory on the Reapers, so fair's fair, flog your own theory all you like, just know I don't agree, and likely won't.

I don't recall asking you to. Frankly, that's reserved for people who read it before responding to it. What I was remarking on was "[i]Don't make me get out my theory on the Reaper's creation and their motivations again... I'm sick of getting in debates with Rifneno about his "Harbinger is the Prothean Reaper" theory.[i]" This states you're sick of something that never happened, and implies that it's a more tired subject than your theory.

I DID read what you posted. I don't agree. But I did read it.

But either way, I apologize for snapping at you, as well as the implication.

Rifneno wrote...
Remember the time that Dragon Age dev got pissy about seeing videos where Morrigan was wearing armor because "Morrigan would never wear armor"? I don't mean modded stuff, I mean armor she can wear in the vanilla game. Ahh, fun times... I guess that's how we got that terribad system in DA2.

Personally, I like the idea that they're following for DA3, every individual has their own unique looking outfit, yet when you equip a peice of armor, that part changes to something that the armor reflects, allowing customization, yet still letting each have a unique look.

Rifneno wrote...

When did we start talking about Witcher?

Oh well, I approve. Henselt is almost as much fun to murderize as Udina.

Actually I was talking about A Game of Thrones, the TV series.

Chobot is definetly the voice of mediocrity. To be honest, she's the only two reasons to watch IGN. She's rather extremely vapid IMO. Allers only has the benefit of showing us a very limited part of her personality, so we only get to see the few good parts. Unlike little miss "I preform oral sex on a PSP to get hired."

What is this I don't even... How do you... Does the PSP have a... *shakes head* Moving on.

Like this; 

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 09 mai 2012 - 03:16 .

[Simon_Says]

I'm pretty sure that's not hygienic. Also saw that 80 minute 'documentary'. He missed so much stuff that we here discovered that I really think we should get together, organize research of all 2000+ pages of this thread, and find all the evidence and counter-evidence, theories and speculations, and compile them into one proper document with proper sourcing.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 09 mai 2012 - 03:04 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

byne wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

EOh and why should we download the extended cut. All it is going to have is none important stuff that will make no sense, and that every thing at the end wiil be the same. Also I like to point out that when bioware said that the relays can be rebuilt by the correct choice. Well destroy is out of the obtion since it killed all tech, o that's right you lived so poor writing right there bioware.

When did they mention destroy would kill ALL tech? I was under the impression destroy would kill reapers + synthetics + mass relays.

I think it depends on your EMS, the lower it is, the more stuff destroy screws up.

At the lowest possible it pretty much wipes the galaxy clean of life.

Why the strength of your fleet should determine what the Crucible does, I dont know, but it does.

He probably got the worst possible ending. The relation of EMS to what the crucible is weird and is one on many unexplained things in the game. Hackett did say they were figuring out how to use the crucible without wiping everything out. I guess thats what happens at low EMS ending, but what has this to do with EMS? Maybe because EMS=your work in bringing the galaxy togather; The more people working on the crucible, the better they figure it out how to channel its energy? But then EMS for a large part represents your fleet strength, not the number of scientists working on the crucible. Hmm... problematic.

Anyhow, in my latest playthrough, I noticed Ashley won't join me in the normandy after the coup attempt. This is the first time Ash?kaiden isnt joining me despite me asking them (theres a blue charm option which I wont take cuz this is my 100% renegade playthrough). Normally he/she would join me with me simply asking but not now? Has it got to do with me picking renegade options while confronting her?

Modifié par pirate1802, 09 mai 2012 - 03:05 .

[MintyCool]

Skaldian wrote...

I WANT TO BELIEVE!

$200 million says otherwise...

[Big G13]

Simon_Says wrote...

I'm pretty sure that's not hygienic.

I'm suddenly thinking of scrapping my xbox and getting a PS.

[Arian Dynas]

Simon_Says wrote...

I'm pretty sure that's not hygienic. Also saw that 80 minute 'documentary'. He missed so much stuff that we here discovered that I really think we should get together, organize research of all 2000+ pages of this thread, and find all the evidence and counter-evidence, theories and speculations, and compile them into one proper document with proper sourcing.

He made it on May 8th. It's out of date. What's say we find him and help him update?

[spotlessvoid]

MintyCool wrote...


$200 million in sales...

Check and Mate.


http://www.destructo...es-227119.phtml

Doesn't prove the point you think it does. If anything it shows that the sales for me3 were there regardless of the ending, meaning EA//Bioware could have easily felt doing IT wasn't a particularly risky gamble.