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llbountyhunter wrote...

gosh, mordin was such a player.



Well what member of any species could resist this?

#53602
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guys I found the source of the hallucinations!!!!!!!!!



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byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...


I could never kill Wrex or Eve. I'd rather let Mordin die. I liked him, but Wrex was there from the beginning....

also yeah it's sad Legion dies. And to think I never really liked him in ME2! In ME3 he was amazing, but then of course he had to die. The renegade scene is even worse than shooting Mordin in the back, and that one is REALLY bad.


Blasphemy!

Did he not win you over with his awesome dance moves?


That's what I thought when I read that lol. Legion in ME2 is exactly why I like legion. He brought a new perspective to the geth that not everyon knew about. Not only did it surprise me as a player, but it also surprised the characters like Shepard and Tali.

My first play through I had no choice but to kill him. I couldn't kill Tali's people you know, and at the time the geth couldn't be trusted with all that reaper code in them. I didn't know any better. But when the scene was playing out I was like:


No.....
No No No...........
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

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EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...


I could never kill Wrex or Eve. I'd rather let Mordin die. I liked him, but Wrex was there from the beginning....

also yeah it's sad Legion dies. And to think I never really liked him in ME2! In ME3 he was amazing, but then of course he had to die. The renegade scene is even worse than shooting Mordin in the back, and that one is REALLY bad.


Blasphemy!

Did he not win you over with his awesome dance moves?


That's what I thought when I read that lol. Legion in ME2 is exactly why I like legion. He brought a new perspective to the geth that not everyon knew about. Not only did it surprise me as a player, but it also surprised the characters like Shepard and Tali.

My first play through I had no choice but to kill him. I couldn't kill Tali's people you know, and at the time the geth couldn't be trusted with all that reaper code in them. I didn't know any better. But when the scene was playing out I was like:


No.....
No No No...........
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


You didnt broker peace your first playthrough?

Epyon, I am disappoint.

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byne wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

gosh, mordin was such a player.



Well what member of any species could resist this?

The amount of win in this is just...No data available

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byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...


I could never kill Wrex or Eve. I'd rather let Mordin die. I liked him, but Wrex was there from the beginning....

also yeah it's sad Legion dies. And to think I never really liked him in ME2! In ME3 he was amazing, but then of course he had to die. The renegade scene is even worse than shooting Mordin in the back, and that one is REALLY bad.


Blasphemy!

Did he not win you over with his awesome dance moves?


That's what I thought when I read that lol. Legion in ME2 is exactly why I like legion. He brought a new perspective to the geth that not everyon knew about. Not only did it surprise me as a player, but it also surprised the characters like Shepard and Tali.

My first play through I had no choice but to kill him. I couldn't kill Tali's people you know, and at the time the geth couldn't be trusted with all that reaper code in them. I didn't know any better. But when the scene was playing out I was like:


No.....
No No No...........
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


You didnt broker peace your first playthrough?

Epyon, I am disappoint.


Yeah I know. It wasn't an option. so I assumed that it was either or just like the cure mission.

My second playthough was much, much different.

#53607
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llbountyhunter wrote...

guys I found the source of the hallucinations!!!!!!!!!


"Oral contact may cause mild hallucinations."

:D

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EpyonX3

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MaximizedAction wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

guys I found the source of the hallucinations!!!!!!!!!


"Oral contact may cause mild hallucinations."

:D


I'm gonna start using that...

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And off I go to the cinema, to watch The Avengers and socialize with actual people! Have fun

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

And off I go to the cinema, to watch The Avengers and socialize with actual people! Have fun


"actual people"??? :(

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EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...


You didnt broker peace your first playthrough?

Epyon, I am disappoint.


Yeah I know. It wasn't an option. so I assumed that it was either or just like the cure mission.

My second playthough was much, much different.


Yknow, as much as I like Tali, if it really was an either/or choice like with the genophage cure, I'd probably choose the geth everytime.

The quarians have been the aggressors against the geth throughout their entire history. The geth have done nothing but defend themselves.

If you side with the geth, it isnt your fault the quarians got wiped out. You DID warn them after all, and they just kept firing.

Its hard to feel sympathy for the quarians.

Plus, even if Tali is your romance and she kills herself, you still get zombie Tali to come visit you before the attack on the Cerberus base, so you dont even miss out on your romance scene.

Siding with the geth is a win/win.

Modifié par byne, 09 mai 2012 - 05:25 .


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Kroen135 wrote...

There was a mention a few pages ago about Object RHO and how most seem to coin it as the first canon (atleast the most like likely successful attempt at it) indoctrination of Shepard. I would like to point out that during the gauntlet while Object Rho is charging up. It will say many things. It sounds just like Harbinger but if you run with subtitles clearly states that it is Object Rho saying it. (This doesn't mean it's Harbinger or it isn't. Although I personally believe it is but as I have no canon/in game proof; I will just say it's Object Rho.

Most of his things are ego maniacal crap. One thing does catch my attention and it's worth pointing out on this forum.

Object Rho: "Struggle if you wish Shepard, your mind will be mine."

Hmm, that sounds awfully close to indoctrination yes? Thoughts?
(sorry if it's been said before just now coming back since page 1800 lol)

Well, um, yes, that probably is quite literally exactly what it's talking about :P

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I find it amusing how everyone who hears about a VA doing EC work says that if only we can get Harbinger now, things will be perfect.

As much as I feel that the VO work is a great sign, I HIGHLY doubt BioWare would let Harbinger's VA say anything. His prescence would spoil everything.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

gosh, mordin was such a player.



Well what member of any species could resist this?

The amount of win in this is just...No data available


Those are both awesome!  Does Garrus have a 'fro in the second one?

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

And off I go to the cinema, to watch The Avengers and socialize with actual people! Have fun

"actual people" What kind of sorcery is that? :o

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byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...


You didnt broker peace your first playthrough?

Epyon, I am disappoint.


Yeah I know. It wasn't an option. so I assumed that it was either or just like the cure mission.

My second playthough was much, much different.


Yknow, as much as I like Tali, if it really was an either/or choice like with the genophage cure, I'd probably choose the geth everytime.

The quarians have been the aggressors against the geth throughout their entire history. The geth have done nothing but defend themselves.

If you side with the geth, it isnt your fault the quarians got wiped out. You DID warn them after all, and they just kept firing.

Its hard to feel sympathy for the quarians.

Plus, even if Tali is your romance and she kills herself, you still get zombie Tali to come visit you before the attack on the Cerberus base, so you dont even miss out on your romance scene.

Siding with the geth is a win/win.


Totally agree with you.  Of course, Starbrat totally disagrees with you...

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

And off I go to the cinema, to watch The Avengers and socialize with actual people! Have fun

"actual people" What kind of sorcery is that? :o



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Sorry.. ><

#53618
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ExtendedCut wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

gosh, mordin was such a player.



Well what member of any species could resist this?

The amount of win in this is just...No data available


Those are both awesome!  Does Garrus have a 'fro in the second one?




Oh yeah.

#53619
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lex0r11 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

And off I go to the cinema, to watch The Avengers and socialize with actual people! Have fun

"actual people" What kind of sorcery is that? :o



Posted Image

Sorry.. ><

Quite possible indeed.

#53620
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byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...


I could never kill Wrex or Eve. I'd rather let Mordin die. I liked him, but Wrex was there from the beginning....

also yeah it's sad Legion dies. And to think I never really liked him in ME2! In ME3 he was amazing, but then of course he had to die. The renegade scene is even worse than shooting Mordin in the back, and that one is REALLY bad.


Blasphemy!

Did he not win you over with his awesome dance moves?


That's what I thought when I read that lol. Legion in ME2 is exactly why I like legion. He brought a new perspective to the geth that not everyon knew about. Not only did it surprise me as a player, but it also surprised the characters like Shepard and Tali.

My first play through I had no choice but to kill him. I couldn't kill Tali's people you know, and at the time the geth couldn't be trusted with all that reaper code in them. I didn't know any better. But when the scene was playing out I was like:


No.....
No No No...........
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


You didnt broker peace your first playthrough?

Epyon, I am disappoint.


My canon Shep couldn't save Tali from being exiled in ME2, so peace was not an option. I had to choose between Tali and Legion; I honestly thought the quarians wont be so foolish. Chose to side with Legion, and my reaction, too was pretty much like that

No.....
Nooo......
Omg Tali !!!! :'((((

#53621
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pirate1802 wrote...


My canon Shep couldn't save Tali from being exiled in ME2, so peace was not an option. I had to choose between Tali and Legion; I honestly thought the quarians wont be so foolish. Chose to side with Legion, and my reaction, too was pretty much like that

No.....
Nooo......
Omg Tali !!!! :'((((


Even if you didnt have high enough paragon/renegade, you still should have been able to rally the crowd and save her from exile.

So now the question is: did you turn Veetor over to Cerberus on Freedom's Progress or let Kal'Reegar die on Haestrom? Or both?

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I'll never see Garrus the same way again.



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byne wrote...

Plus, even if Tali is your romance and she kills herself, you still get zombie Tali to come visit you before the attack on the Cerberus base, so you dont even miss out on your romance scene.



Shep is hallucinating happy time with Tali. Totally a check in the box for Indoc theory.

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pirate1802 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...


I could never kill Wrex or Eve. I'd rather let Mordin die. I liked him, but Wrex was there from the beginning....

also yeah it's sad Legion dies. And to think I never really liked him in ME2! In ME3 he was amazing, but then of course he had to die. The renegade scene is even worse than shooting Mordin in the back, and that one is REALLY bad.


Blasphemy!

Did he not win you over with his awesome dance moves?


That's what I thought when I read that lol. Legion in ME2 is exactly why I like legion. He brought a new perspective to the geth that not everyon knew about. Not only did it surprise me as a player, but it also surprised the characters like Shepard and Tali.

My first play through I had no choice but to kill him. I couldn't kill Tali's people you know, and at the time the geth couldn't be trusted with all that reaper code in them. I didn't know any better. But when the scene was playing out I was like:


No.....
No No No...........
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


You didnt broker peace your first playthrough?

Epyon, I am disappoint.


My canon Shep couldn't save Tali from being exiled in ME2, so peace was not an option. I had to choose between Tali and Legion; I honestly thought the quarians wont be so foolish. Chose to side with Legion, and my reaction, too was pretty much like that

No.....
Nooo......
Omg Tali !!!! :'((((


In my playthrough Tali was an admiral and still she jumped off the cliff. :(

#53625
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EpyonX3 wrote...

I'll never see Garrus the same way again.


Speaking of Garrus, Brian Keener said this on his facebook.

"All I can say is: yes, I have done some recording this week.
I believe it was Shakespeare who wrote "The better part of Voiceover is discretion...""

Posted on his FB page in response to a question about EC DLC.

Modifié par balance5050, 09 mai 2012 - 05:58 .