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[MegumiAzusa]

llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

Because some pesky humans might breach your defenses and ride the beam up to the Citadel, totally undoing all your plans?

I really doubt the Reapers are stupid enough to leave a gaping hole in their defenses just out of convenience.

Arrogance leads to overconfidence.

Dude, even I could see the problems with leaving a path straight into the center of my stronghold out in the middle of nowhere, guarded only by one destroyer.

Are you honestly saying the Reapers are that stupid?

Honestly, yes. Moving the Citadel to earth to begin with was the stupidest move ever. Taking the Citadel, which holds the key to the super weapon we're building, through the omega relay, which only reapers and 1 alliance ship can go through would have been a much smarter solution.

Taking it to earth where most oranic ships are lkely to follow and try to take it back, while turning on a beam with direct access to the citadel is the stupidest move ever. All for Shepard? Why, the cycle has reached its end. The reapers are harvesting. There's not need for anyone to be indoctrinated at this point.

How do you know only one ship can go through? Cerberus uses the really constantly.

Also the reapers attacked earth first. It the place were they have the strongest foothold in the galaxy.

Nope, Batarians were the first. They are here in force because of our genetic material that seems the best choice for them to build a Reaper.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 09 mai 2012 - 09:41 .

[byne]

EpyonX3 wrote...


They stil have the nerve to claim that he will ultimately fail. Are they bumbling robots? No. They're just a bit "human" is all.

And she would have failed, if the leader of the Reapers hadnt coincidentally brought her to the decision chamber where he gave her a choice of three ways to win.

Speaking of him, he claims he controls the Reapers, and he pretty clearly wants to use the Crucible, yet if you take too long to decide, the Reapers destroy the Crucible. Why? Are the created rebelling against the creator? Is godchild just full of ****?

[llbountyhunter]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

Because some pesky humans might breach your defenses and ride the beam up to the Citadel, totally undoing all your plans?

I really doubt the Reapers are stupid enough to leave a gaping hole in their defenses just out of convenience.

Arrogance leads to overconfidence.

Dude, even I could see the problems with leaving a path straight into the center of my stronghold out in the middle of nowhere, guarded only by one destroyer.

Are you honestly saying the Reapers are that stupid?

Honestly, yes. Moving the Citadel to earth to begin with was the stupidest move ever. Taking the Citadel, which holds the key to the super weapon we're building, through the omega relay, which only reapers and 1 alliance ship can go through would have been a much smarter solution.

Taking it to earth where most oranic ships are lkely to follow and try to take it back, while turning on a beam with direct access to the citadel is the stupidest move ever. All for Shepard? Why, the cycle has reached its end. The reapers are harvesting. There's not need for anyone to be indoctrinated at this point.

How do you know only one ship can go through? Cerberus uses the really constantly.

Also the reapers attacked earth first. It the place were they have the strongest foothold in the galaxy.

Nope, Batarians were the first.

But Shepard destroyed that mass relay remember?

[MegumiAzusa]

llbountyhunter wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

Because some pesky humans might breach your defenses and ride the beam up to the Citadel, totally undoing all your plans?

I really doubt the Reapers are stupid enough to leave a gaping hole in their defenses just out of convenience.

Arrogance leads to overconfidence.

Dude, even I could see the problems with leaving a path straight into the center of my stronghold out in the middle of nowhere, guarded only by one destroyer.

Are you honestly saying the Reapers are that stupid?

Honestly, yes. Moving the Citadel to earth to begin with was the stupidest move ever. Taking the Citadel, which holds the key to the super weapon we're building, through the omega relay, which only reapers and 1 alliance ship can go through would have been a much smarter solution.

Taking it to earth where most oranic ships are lkely to follow and try to take it back, while turning on a beam with direct access to the citadel is the stupidest move ever. All for Shepard? Why, the cycle has reached its end. The reapers are harvesting. There's not need for anyone to be indoctrinated at this point.

How do you know only one ship can go through? Cerberus uses the really constantly.

Also the reapers attacked earth first. It the place were they have the strongest foothold in the galaxy.

Nope, Batarians were the first.

But Shepard destroyed that mass relay remember?

Yes, that is why they didn't spread immediately. Batarians were still the first.

[llbountyhunter]

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

Because some pesky humans might breach your defenses and ride the beam up to the Citadel, totally undoing all your plans?

I really doubt the Reapers are stupid enough to leave a gaping hole in their defenses just out of convenience.

Arrogance leads to overconfidence.

Dude, even I could see the problems with leaving a path straight into the center of my stronghold out in the middle of nowhere, guarded only by one destroyer.

Are you honestly saying the Reapers are that stupid?

Honestly, yes. Moving the Citadel to earth to begin with was the stupidest move ever. Taking the Citadel, which holds the key to the super weapon we're building, through the omega relay, which only reapers and 1 alliance ship can go through would have been a much smarter solution.

Taking it to earth where most oranic ships are lkely to follow and try to take it back, while turning on a beam with direct access to the citadel is the stupidest move ever. All for Shepard? Why, the cycle has reached its end. The reapers are harvesting. There's not need for anyone to be indoctrinated at this point.

How do you know only one ship can go through? Cerberus uses the really constantly.

Also the reapers attacked earth first. It the place were they have the strongest foothold in the galaxy.

That's why I said Alliance. Cerberus wouldn't attack it because TIM wouldn't order it. One because he's indoctrinated and the other because he doesn't want them destroyed.

Also, no they attacked everyone at once. Palaven was already under attack while Shepard was on Mars. Asari colonies were also under attack.

How do the reapers know the alliance couldn't mass replicate the IFF likecerberus? It's smarter not to take the chance.

Earth was hit first. You had to Finnish the mars mission the see the beginning of the reaper attack on paloven.
 It's also where the majority of the reapers were located.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 09 mai 2012 - 09:46 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Things Shepard would have to survive in order to have crash landed on Earth after the good red ending:

1. Fatal injuries already sustained.
2. The explosion of the red tube, may not be enough to kill Shepard but it's big enough to further his/her injuries.
3. The red wave being sent out a few feet from Shepard. While it's not a destructive wave like the bad red ending it still has enough force to move things like wreckage and Reapers in space, ground zero for that much of a force would definitely hurt Shepard.
4. The massive explosion that takes place after the Citadel fires out the red beam to the nearest Relay. It envelops most of the presidium ring, there would be nothing left of Shepard.
5. If Shepard was somehow blown clear of explosion 4, then he/she would have to survive re-entry into Earth's atmosphere without burning up. As the armor is in shambles and kinetic barriers are obviously down there would be nothing left of Shepard.
6. If there is something left of Shepard, it would have to survive impact with the ground after falling from space. If there was something left of Shepard it would be in broken pieces unable to take a breath.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 09 mai 2012 - 09:47 .

[llbountyhunter]

 Sorry people for my barely legible posts... Not able to use my computer... Hard drive failed.  

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 09 mai 2012 - 09:48 .

[MaximizedAction]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

@MegumiAzusa

"Sounds to me like metal beams under stress."

Very true. As I heard it for the first time, the first thing I thought about was the sound of a ship wreckage.
Yet what kind of metallic structures do we have there ? The buildings are rather far away from the where the scene took place but the sound is very near (I would say upon Shepard). Could it come from the giant columns surrounding the Beam ?

From my other post:

Yeah, I think your shots pretty much confirm that BW used London rubble for the Breath scene. Hence, it's not that far fetched to assume that this therefore IS, in fact, London, Earth.

I applaud you...oh, and here, have a *cookie*!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 09 mai 2012 - 09:49 .

[EpyonX3]

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


They stil have the nerve to claim that he will ultimately fail. Are they bumbling robots? No. They're just a bit "human" is all.

And she would have failed, if the leader of the Reapers hadnt coincidentally brought her to the decision chamber where he gave her a choice of three ways to win.

Speaking of him, he claims he controls the Reapers, and he pretty clearly wants to use the Crucible, yet if you take too long to decide, the Reapers destroy the Crucible. Why? Are the created rebelling against the creator? Is godchild just full of ****?

What I think is that the cruicible is having its own battle with the catalyst. While it forces the catalyst to allow shepard to choose, it won't make the decision for him. At the same time, if we assume the catalyst is an AI, lower level processes that control reaper actions could be getting stopped, but it won't last long enogh since, as we've seen before, reaper code can evolve.

The thing is that you can stand there as long as you want, but the crucible only gets destroyed if you get far enough onto one of the choices and turn back.


Also, the reapers could have taken out the crucible at any point. For example, the crucible makes it to earth before anyone gets to the beam. Instead of Harbinger going to earth to destroy hammer, why didn't he go towards the crucible itself? The can go through Dreadnaughts like a knife through butter and can shoot lasers from long distances. Again, showing how odd the reapers battle strategies are.

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

@MegumiAzusa

"Sounds to me like metal beams under stress."

Very true. As I heard it for the first time, the first thing I thought about was the sound of a ship wreckage.
Yet what kind of metallic structures do we have there ? The buildings are rather far away from the where the scene took place but the sound is very near (I would say upon Shepard). Could it come from the giant columns surrounding the Beam ?

From my other post:

Yeah, I think your shots pretty much confirm that BW used London rubble for the Breath scene. Hence, it's not that far fetched to assume that this therefore IS, in fact, London, Earth.

I applaud you...oh, and here, have a *cookie*!

*grabs all your cookies* :3

[llbountyhunter]

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


They stil have the nerve to claim that he will ultimately fail. Are they bumbling robots? No. They're just a bit "human" is all.

And she would have failed, if the leader of the Reapers hadnt coincidentally brought her to the decision chamber where he gave her a choice of three ways to win.

Speaking of him, he claims he controls the Reapers, and he pretty clearly wants to use the Crucible, yet if you take too long to decide, the Reapers destroy the Crucible. Why? Are the created rebelling against the creator? Is godchild just full of ****?

What I think is that the cruicible is having its own battle with the catalyst. While it forces the catalyst to allow shepard to choose, it won't make the decision for him. At the same time, if we assume the catalyst is an AI, lower level processes that control reaper actions could be getting stopped, but it won't last long enogh since, as we've seen before, reaper code can evolve.

The thing is that you can stand there as long as you want, but the crucible only gets destroyed if you get far enough onto one of the choices and turn back.


Also, the reapers could have taken out the crucible at any point. For example, the crucible makes it to earth before anyone gets to the beam. Instead of Harbinger going to earth to destroy hammer, why didn't he go towards the crucible itself? The can go through Dreadnaughts like a knife through butter and can shoot lasers from long distances. Again, showing how odd the reapers battle strategies are.

Or maybe there tactics are beyond your comprehension. They have fought more battle S...

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 09 mai 2012 - 09:54 .

[EpyonX3]

llbountyhunter wrote...

How do the reapers know the alliance couldn't mass replicate the IFF likecerberus? It's smarter not to take the chance.

Earth was hit first. You had to Finnish the mars mission the see the beginning of the reaper attack on paloven.
 It's also where the majority of the reapers were located.

They didn't even know that EDI was an A.I. How could they have possibly known the ship contained an IFF and then mass produce it and outfit every ship with it. On top of that, while having a government that doesn't believe in the reaper threat to begin with.

No earth was not hit first. like someone mentioned before, the Batarians were hit first. By the time you get to Palaven, the reapers have it occupied already. Reaper scouts were already on Tuchanka. They attacked at once.

[Uncle Jo]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Honestly, yes. Moving the Citadel to earth to begin with was the stupidest move ever. Taking the Citadel, which holds the key to the super weapon we're building, through the omega relay, which only reapers and 1 alliance ship can go through would have been a much smarter solution.

Taking it to earth where most oranic ships are lkely to follow and try to take it back, while turning on a beam with direct access to the citadel is the stupidest move ever. All for Shepard? Why, the cycle has reached its end. The reapers are harvesting. There's not need for anyone to be indoctrinated at this point.

It could be the stupidest move ever... or very clever, if we assume the crucible was a trap.


EDIT: @MegumiAzusa. Thanks for the pic ! Could be where the sound come from..

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 09 mai 2012 - 09:56 .

[EpyonX3]

llbountyhunter wrote...

 Sorry people for my barely legible posts... Not able to use my computer... Hard drive failed.  

That sucks. Regular drive or Solid State?

[EpyonX3]

llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


They stil have the nerve to claim that he will ultimately fail. Are they bumbling robots? No. They're just a bit "human" is all.

And she would have failed, if the leader of the Reapers hadnt coincidentally brought her to the decision chamber where he gave her a choice of three ways to win.

Speaking of him, he claims he controls the Reapers, and he pretty clearly wants to use the Crucible, yet if you take too long to decide, the Reapers destroy the Crucible. Why? Are the created rebelling against the creator? Is godchild just full of ****?

What I think is that the cruicible is having its own battle with the catalyst. While it forces the catalyst to allow shepard to choose, it won't make the decision for him. At the same time, if we assume the catalyst is an AI, lower level processes that control reaper actions could be getting stopped, but it won't last long enogh since, as we've seen before, reaper code can evolve.

The thing is that you can stand there as long as you want, but the crucible only gets destroyed if you get far enough onto one of the choices and turn back.


Also, the reapers could have taken out the crucible at any point. For example, the crucible makes it to earth before anyone gets to the beam. Instead of Harbinger going to earth to destroy hammer, why didn't he go towards the crucible itself? The can go through Dreadnaughts like a knife through butter and can shoot lasers from long distances. Again, showing how odd the reapers battle strategies are.

Or maybe there tactics are beyond your comprehension. They have fought more battle S...

Beyond my comprehension just like their motives? We can assume that they never had their invasion delayed by three years and had a super weapon built that uses their own trap against them.

Any smart being would adapt to the situation or plan ahead for those possibilities.

[llbountyhunter]

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

How do the reapers know the alliance couldn't mass replicate the IFF likecerberus? It's smarter not to take the chance.

Earth was hit first. You had to Finnish the mars mission the see the beginning of the reaper attack on paloven.
 It's also where the majority of the reapers were located.

They didn't even know that EDI was an A.I. How could they have possibly known the ship contained an IFF and then mass produce it and outfit every ship with it. On top of that, while having a government that doesn't believe in the reaper threat to begin with.

No earth was not hit first. like someone mentioned before, the Batarians were hit first. By the time you get to Palaven, the reapers have it occupied already. Reaper scouts were already on Tuchanka. They attacked at once.

Well their collector base was destroyed..... Once the defence was breached once logically it could be done again.. Not very smart to put your eggs in that basket.

Yeah sure, they attacked all at once. 

[llbountyhunter]

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

 Sorry people for my barely legible posts... Not able to use my computer... Hard drive failed.  

That sucks. Regular drive or Solid State?

Regular.

[byne]

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

How do the reapers know the alliance couldn't mass replicate the IFF likecerberus? It's smarter not to take the chance.

They didn't even know that EDI was an A.I. How could they have possibly known the ship contained an IFF and then mass produce it and outfit every ship with it.

Well, the Salarians did it. If they knew about the IFF, I seriously doubt that the Alliance would somehow not know about it.

Salarian First Fleet War Asset

The salarian navy accepts nothing less than bleeding-edge technology in every single vessel. Military observers were puzzled and not a little suspicious when the salarians slowed down dreadnought production, building fewer ships than legally permitted under the Treaty of Farixen. The answer lies in the complexity of their construction. Acting on orders from Sur'Kesh, STG agents procured schematics of the SSV Normandy's stealth systems and the algorithms behind the Normandy SR-2's Reaper IFF signal. Months of research yielded something previously unthinkable--dreadnoughts with stealth capabilities. The salarians expect the Reapers to break through the dreadnought's electronic countermeasures eventually, but until then, they have a crucial advantage against their monstrous enemies.

So, Salarians have STEALTH DREADNOUGHTS with Reaper IFFs installed.

The Salarians are just super badass.

Modifié par byne, 09 mai 2012 - 10:00 .

[llbountyhunter]

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


They stil have the nerve to claim that he will ultimately fail. Are they bumbling robots? No. They're just a bit "human" is all.

And she would have failed, if the leader of the Reapers hadnt coincidentally brought her to the decision chamber where he gave her a choice of three ways to win.

Speaking of him, he claims he controls the Reapers, and he pretty clearly wants to use the Crucible, yet if you take too long to decide, the Reapers destroy the Crucible. Why? Are the created rebelling against the creator? Is godchild just full of ****?

What I think is that the cruicible is having its own battle with the catalyst. While it forces the catalyst to allow shepard to choose, it won't make the decision for him. At the same time, if we assume the catalyst is an AI, lower level processes that control reaper actions could be getting stopped, but it won't last long enogh since, as we've seen before, reaper code can evolve.

The thing is that you can stand there as long as you want, but the crucible only gets destroyed if you get far enough onto one of the choices and turn back.


Also, the reapers could have taken out the crucible at any point. For example, the crucible makes it to earth before anyone gets to the beam. Instead of Harbinger going to earth to destroy hammer, why didn't he go towards the crucible itself? The can go through Dreadnaughts like a knife through butter and can shoot lasers from long distances. Again, showing how odd the reapers battle strategies are.

Or maybe there tactics are beyond your comprehension. They have fought more battle S...

Beyond my comprehension just like their motives? We can assume that they never had their invasion delayed by three years and had a super weapon built that uses their own trap against them.

Any smart being would adapt to the situation or plan ahead for those possibilities.

How do you know they weren't doing just that?

[HellishFiend]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I don't know if it will help anything, or if I'm reposting a version of something people have already posted, but I took this shot that kinda encapsulates the game's concrete idea of "rebar".

Whoa! That seems like a pretty important find to me! Good catch!

But that looks nothing like this:

And pre-rendered Miranda looks nothing like in-game Miranda. What's your point?


For all we know, the things we see in the breath scene could be what the rebar looks like when pre-rendered. 




Does anyone have any screenshots of pre-rendered rebar and/or cable?

Plus, I think we're also forgetting that we see "reaper cable" all over the place in various locations, not always associated with reaper tech. I've seen several people post screenshots of that type of cabling where it is ostensibly not reaper tech. So why is it constantly being referred to as reaper cable? 

[EpyonX3]

llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

How do the reapers know the alliance couldn't mass replicate the IFF likecerberus? It's smarter not to take the chance.

Earth was hit first. You had to Finnish the mars mission the see the beginning of the reaper attack on paloven.
 It's also where the majority of the reapers were located.

They didn't even know that EDI was an A.I. How could they have possibly known the ship contained an IFF and then mass produce it and outfit every ship with it. On top of that, while having a government that doesn't believe in the reaper threat to begin with.

No earth was not hit first. like someone mentioned before, the Batarians were hit first. By the time you get to Palaven, the reapers have it occupied already. Reaper scouts were already on Tuchanka. They attacked at once.

Well their collector base was destroyed..... Once the defence was breached once logically it could be done again.. Not very smart to put your eggs in that basket.

Yeah sure, they attacked all at once. 

The collector ship and a few drones where their only line of defense. Put a couple of reaper capital ships and three destroyers on both ends of the relay and see how easy it will be to breach.

Also, how would they have known it even went to the omega relay? There's no one there but Cerberus.

[MegumiAzusa]

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


They stil have the nerve to claim that he will ultimately fail. Are they bumbling robots? No. They're just a bit "human" is all.

And she would have failed, if the leader of the Reapers hadnt coincidentally brought her to the decision chamber where he gave her a choice of three ways to win.

Speaking of him, he claims he controls the Reapers, and he pretty clearly wants to use the Crucible, yet if you take too long to decide, the Reapers destroy the Crucible. Why? Are the created rebelling against the creator? Is godchild just full of ****?

What I think is that the cruicible is having its own battle with the catalyst. While it forces the catalyst to allow shepard to choose, it won't make the decision for him. At the same time, if we assume the catalyst is an AI, lower level processes that control reaper actions could be getting stopped, but it won't last long enogh since, as we've seen before, reaper code can evolve.

The thing is that you can stand there as long as you want, but the crucible only gets destroyed if you get far enough onto one of the choices and turn back.


Also, the reapers could have taken out the crucible at any point. For example, the crucible makes it to earth before anyone gets to the beam. Instead of Harbinger going to earth to destroy hammer, why didn't he go towards the crucible itself? The can go through Dreadnaughts like a knife through butter and can shoot lasers from long distances. Again, showing how odd the reapers battle strategies are.

Or maybe there tactics are beyond your comprehension. They have fought more battle S...

Beyond my comprehension just like their motives? We can assume that they never had their invasion delayed by three years and had a super weapon built that uses their own trap against them.

Any smart being would adapt to the situation or plan ahead for those possibilities.

I love how EDI described her electronic warfare suite in very similar terms ^^

[EpyonX3]

HellishFiend wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I don't know if it will help anything, or if I'm reposting a version of something people have already posted, but I took this shot that kinda encapsulates the game's concrete idea of "rebar".

Whoa! That seems like a pretty important find to me! Good catch!

But that looks nothing like this:

And pre-rendered Miranda looks nothing like in-game Miranda. What's your point?


For all we know, the things we see in the breath scene could be what the rebar looks like when pre-rendered. 




Does anyone have any screenshots of pre-rendered rebar and/or cable?

Plus, I think we're also forgetting that we see "reaper cable" all over the place in various locations, not always associated with reaper tech. I've seen several people post screenshots of that type of cabling where it is ostensibly not reaper tech. So why is it constantly being referred to as reaper cable? 

the point is that you can see the details of the prerendered cable in the regular game assets. The individual cable strands wound inside of the metallic braces.

[llbountyhunter]

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

How do the reapers know the alliance couldn't mass replicate the IFF likecerberus? It's smarter not to take the chance.

Earth was hit first. You had to Finnish the mars mission the see the beginning of the reaper attack on paloven.
 It's also where the majority of the reapers were located.

They didn't even know that EDI was an A.I. How could they have possibly known the ship contained an IFF and then mass produce it and outfit every ship with it. On top of that, while having a government that doesn't believe in the reaper threat to begin with.

No earth was not hit first. like someone mentioned before, the Batarians were hit first. By the time you get to Palaven, the reapers have it occupied already. Reaper scouts were already on Tuchanka. They attacked at once.

Well their collector base was destroyed..... Once the defence was breached once logically it could be done again.. Not very smart to put your eggs in that basket.

Yeah sure, they attacked all at once. 

The collector ship and a few drones where their only line of defense. Put a couple of reaper capital ships and three destroyers on both ends of the relay and see how easy it will be to breach.

Also, how would they have known it even went to the omega relay? There's no one there but Cerberus.

They did just that.... But on earth.


Didnt cereus alert the reapers? I'm pretty sure the prothean VI would've told them

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 09 mai 2012 - 10:07 .

[MegumiAzusa]

HellishFiend wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I don't know if it will help anything, or if I'm reposting a version of something people have already posted, but I took this shot that kinda encapsulates the game's concrete idea of "rebar".

Whoa! That seems like a pretty important find to me! Good catch!

But that looks nothing like this:

And pre-rendered Miranda looks nothing like in-game Miranda. What's your point?


For all we know, the things we see in the breath scene could be what the rebar looks like when pre-rendered. 

~~~~
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Does anyone have any screenshots of pre-rendered rebar and/or cable?

Plus, I think we're also forgetting that we see "reaper cable" all over the place in various locations, not always associated with reaper tech. I've seen several people post screenshots of that type of cabling where it is ostensibly not reaper tech. So why is it constantly being referred to as reaper cable? 

As opposed to Miranda the breath scene consists solely of ingame assets, as can be seen by the rubble.